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(Ars Technica)   Verizon patents set top box that listens to what's going on in your house, then delivers targeted ads to your TV. "We can hear you now"   (arstechnica.com) divider line 194
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2012-12-04 10:08:25 AM  

Jim.Casy: Some of my more paranoid friends said that my Kinect was probably doing this already. I was worried about it for a minute, but then I thought to myself "All this thing is going to learn by watching me is that I'm a lazy stoner who plays a lot of video games," which any normal person would figure out after talking to me for 5 minutes anyway.


Fark yeah! Represent!

/wait, what
 
2012-12-04 10:09:46 AM  
Also, Aw, hell naw
 
2012-12-04 10:11:06 AM  

A Terrible Human: I realize all that but it's just strange to read it. o.o


When we went on our honeymoon, we drove from Ohio to the Black Hills in South Dakota. We had great cell phone reception up until we got out of Mitchell, SD. After that, no service for the rest of the trip (which was kind of nice actually, no distractions) which was about 4 days, even in Rapid City.

That was 5 years ago.
 
2012-12-04 10:11:25 AM  
This is making seriously reflect on the events that have transpired in my living room.....
 
2012-12-04 10:11:42 AM  
While I certainly don't want anything watching/listening to me, I couldn't care less about monitoring my viewing habits and sending me targeted ads. Even if coupled with info from Google or whatnot. I've found targeted ads are better than constant Old Navy and tampon commercials. Plus I DVR everything and fast forward anyway.
 
2012-12-04 10:14:22 AM  
So I'll get targeted with Steve Martins Penis Cream
 
2012-12-04 10:14:51 AM  
You people are all too short-sighted. People will not only embrace this, they will do so willingly.

You choose.

Verizon A) Standard Set-top box with all the fixings - $120 per month
Verizon B) Intelligent Set-top box with added features - $80 per month.


/sheeple
 
2012-12-04 10:16:51 AM  
My home is full of yelling. My husband yells in Tamil and Singhala to his friends and family on skype (they're the loudest languages ever...geez) and my cats yell from 7 pm until their bedtime wanting canned food. I'm guessing it'll be cat food and hearing aid commercials for us!
 
2012-12-04 10:17:28 AM  
What could they possibly glean from me and my drunk friends screaming profanitites at each other while playing sports games on PS3?
 
2012-12-04 10:18:46 AM  
I prefer to look on the bright side of things...

"VICTORIA'S SECRET! LINGERIE! BOOBIES!"
 
2012-12-04 10:18:55 AM  
I would think this would violate any number of privacy and/or eavesdropping/wiretapping laws, at the least. I realize it's voluntary, but does that mean everyone who enters the house has to also be a Verizon subscriber (check local laws regarding single-party or two-party consent)? If the government filed for this patent, the consipiracy folks would be building tin-foil HUTS out in the desert somewhere. But since it's just the hard-working, private-sector job-creators, it's ok?
 
2012-12-04 10:19:15 AM  

OnlyM3: Crewmannumber6

Nobody says you have to get one. They originally said that about "black boxes" in cars too.


If it is just looked at during an auto accident and no other time, I really don't have an issue with it.

If it's able to be viewed remotely by some government agency, and then remotely ticket drivers for speeding, used to create an additional tax for those who (like me) drive in excess of 20,000 a year, and sends my driving information to my insurance company who will then adjust my rates accordingly...then I'll never buy a car newer than 2014.

The product that scares me right now is the 'Snapshot' being used by Progressive. Right now as far as I know they are the only company that offers it (because they are the only one that advertises it), but it plugs into your car's computer and records EVERYTHING you do. The auto insurance industry has tried (and failed) for several decades to get those required for all cars, but thankfully, Congress (in a rare example of doing something right) has blocked it.
 
2012-12-04 10:19:36 AM  

Burr: KarmicDisaster: There was WIMAX but the tower caught fire and they aren't replacing it plus I would need a tower with a gain antenna to pick it up.

Do you have any suggestions on how I can increase my cell reception? Some days it is fine, others I can't get a signal. I have been looking into getting an antenna hardwired with one of those "access points" (so, the antenna is outside, the access point is on my ceiling) but I still get the same signal on my roof as I do in the house it seems, so that won't work.


Well, you can get one of those cell phone repeaters, like the ones from Wilson if you have a sweet spot that you can put the repeater in where you get reception; the antennas on those are better than the ones in your cell phone, plus those also often have a port for an external antenna and you can then mess with a gain antenna, an you could try to mount that outside. Doing anything with gain antennas is hard because of the high loss in any long coax that you might run at those frequencies. I ended up putting up a 20' pole to mount the Wimax antenna on back when they had it. I have a certain cabinet in my kitchen where I can put my cell phone and get two bars and use the hot spot when my DSL goes out. Why it works there, I have no idea. Unfortunately it is all very expensive and there is no guarantee if you are in a marginal area that you will be able to improve things.
 
2012-12-04 10:19:37 AM  
"Box, switch to NBC"
"I'm sorry, Dave, but I cannot do that. NBC is lame."
 
2012-12-04 10:19:43 AM  

CCCarnie: I prefer to look on the bright side of things...

"VICTORIA'S SECRET! LINGERIE! BOOBIES!"


Glass always half-full, my friend. Always half-full.
 
2012-12-04 10:25:42 AM  

Great Janitor

>>> OnlyM3:
>>> >>> Crewmannumber6
>>>>>> Nobody says you have to get one.
>>> They originally said that about "black boxes" in cars too.

If it is just looked at during an auto accident and no other time, I really don't have an issue with it.

If it's able to be viewed remotely by some government agency, and then remotely ticket drivers for speeding, used to create an additional tax for those who (like me) drive in excess of 20,000 a year, and sends my driving information to my insurance company who will then adjust my rates accordingly...then I'll never buy a car newer than 2014.

You mean like your cell phone that can be (and often is) turned on remotely to listen to what you're up to?

by private enterprise
and
by government flunkies

and since warrants are a thing of the past...link1 / link2
 
2012-12-04 10:30:19 AM  

Bruce Campbell: Which note are you cutting, the 3rd or the 5th or are you getting rid of harmonics altogether?


TiMthisIS: How are you going to play Silver Bells on your piano this year?


Oh look, grammar nazis. How quaint.
 
2012-12-04 10:34:27 AM  

KarmicDisaster: Well, you can get one of those cell phone repeaters


That's what they are called, I couldn't remember.

KarmicDisaster: Unfortunately it is all very expensive and there is no guarantee if you are in a marginal area that you will be able to improve things.


Eh, its expensive living away from civilized society and trying to access things that people take for granted (I lived in a city for about 5 years for college, but grew up on a farm, so i know the differences). Just had to replace my well pump a few weeks ago, had an old jet style pump that went kaput, replaced it with a submersible, cost $1000. Of course, this is offset that I can have a two story 5 bedroom house on 6 acres for less per month then I was paying for a one bedroom apartment in the city.

I am going to see if Wilson has a return policy on their repeater. More like a "try and buy" to see if it is worth it to shell out $200-$300 for better signal.
 
2012-12-04 10:43:10 AM  

MadMattressMack: [www.theanfieldwrap.com image 200x200]


Damn, beat me to it. Well played
 
2012-12-04 10:43:35 AM  

Burr: KarmicDisaster: Well, you can get one of those cell phone repeaters

That's what they are called, I couldn't remember.

KarmicDisaster: Unfortunately it is all very expensive and there is no guarantee if you are in a marginal area that you will be able to improve things.

Eh, its expensive living away from civilized society and trying to access things that people take for granted (I lived in a city for about 5 years for college, but grew up on a farm, so i know the differences). Just had to replace my well pump a few weeks ago, had an old jet style pump that went kaput, replaced it with a submersible, cost $1000. Of course, this is offset that I can have a two story 5 bedroom house on 6 acres for less per month then I was paying for a one bedroom apartment in the city.

I am going to see if Wilson has a return policy on their repeater. More like a "try and buy" to see if it is worth it to shell out $200-$300 for better signal.


Get the right one for your carrier/band, and google up some users to see what they say. Most of the repeaters are just broadband RF repeaters that will work for any carrier that uses the band that it covers, but some access points like the Sprint fempto cell one are specific for the carrier and will not work with the prepaid versions such as Virgin Mobile . Some of the mainstream places carry them, and you might be able to buy and return if it does not work through Best Buy or Amazon. They also make some that are primarily for use in cars (gets a better antenna on the outside of the car) that might actually work too but the coverage is short (car sized). There is a lot of cheap crap/gimmicks out there like those stick on passive antennas that does not work.
 
2012-12-04 10:47:32 AM  
fark that noise.
 
2012-12-04 10:50:22 AM  
Unless their DVR allows me to view what is recorded on any TV or computer I own, can increase it's storage at a moment's notice (at 3TB now, can go as high as 12 with the case, my RAID level, and the size of the disks.) and can do compression so I can watch what's recorded from even the shakiest connection, they can fark a cactus. And even if they did of all that, I will be unplugging that mic, and putting a resistor in it's place.
 
2012-12-04 10:50:45 AM  
It's gonna end up like chatroulette. Nothing but penises.
 
2012-12-04 10:56:41 AM  
Supermarkets have been doing this shiat (ie, generating personalized ads based off audio/video feeds of the user) since the late 90s at PoS machines:
Link

Yes, that self checkout register might have a secret mic that IDs whether you're male or female, adult or child.

Also, none of the things claimed to have been patented in the article (or in the articles linked-to) have actually been patented.
 
2012-12-04 10:57:17 AM  
Just came here to say that I'm coming up on year two of having dumped cable.

I get all of the broadcast networks in HD w/ surround sound using $10 bunny ear antenna, so I can still watch football and the few broadcast shows I like, Amazon Prime provides me a ton of content, I buy AMC shows the day after they air via Amazon (e.g. Mad Men and Breaking Bad), and for everything else that I miss, they're typically out on Blu-ray within 8 months and I rent from Netflix. And I save $1,000 a year.
 
2012-12-04 11:04:36 AM  
One of the new pay-per-view channels features Watching Your Neighbors or Celebrities from the camera on their set top box. The fee will always be twice that of porn.
 
2012-12-04 11:06:40 AM  

nickerj1: Supermarkets have been doing this shiat (ie, generating personalized ads based off audio/video feeds of the user) since the late 90s at PoS machines:
Link

Yes, that self checkout register might have a secret mic that IDs whether you're male or female, adult or child.

Also, none of the things claimed to have been patented in the article (or in the articles linked-to) have actually been patented.


You talk to the machine at the self checkout register?

0_o
 
2012-12-04 11:08:31 AM  
I'll start building my extra room now. The small dark one that will only hold a recliner, my tv, and soundproof walls.
 
2012-12-04 11:15:02 AM  

SDRR: You talk to the machine at the self checkout register?


I do, and not very nicely
 
2012-12-04 11:15:07 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x300]

/that's what's going on over here


Cow rancher, here.
/you don't even wanna know
 
2012-12-04 11:21:55 AM  
you: 'this weed sucks. we need to find someone with decent s***.'

your tv:
commercial 1: bob's fertilizer has all the natural fertilizer you could ever need!
commerical 2: your **** sucks? call 555-drug and get the best crack in town!
commercial 3: at Long Boring Days Rehab we care for you and want to help you with your drug problem. Check in now and we won't tell the police what you've been saying in front of your TV.
 
2012-12-04 11:22:22 AM  
KarmicDisaster

Thanks for all the info! Hopefully it will provide useful in my conflict of "living near people" and "damn it, I need the internet".
 
2012-12-04 11:22:45 AM  
Pretty sure there are apps for phones etc. out there already that listen to songs/radio to give you more info on them. I've heard ads for it on the radio, saying the program would send you ads based on what you were listening to on the radio.
 
2012-12-04 11:28:01 AM  
If you're dumb enough to watch TV then you deserve no freedom.
 
2012-12-04 11:29:30 AM  

MadMattressMack: [www.theanfieldwrap.com image 200x200]


"I'll have a bit more, please!"
 
2012-12-04 11:30:04 AM  

SovietCanuckistan: What could they possibly glean from me and my drunk friends screaming profanitites at each other while playing sports games on PS3?


Approximate age, sex, propensities, food consumption habits, and anything else you're talking about that isn't related to fragging.

/and fragging
 
2012-12-04 11:32:19 AM  
Anybody with kids will get nothing but ads for cereal, condoms and ear plugs
 
2012-12-04 11:38:57 AM  

nytmare: BigDamn: Patent application != patent.

And patent != product.


Now don't start with those fancy facts and logic. Then patents become normal and boring, instead of THE WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN!
 
2012-12-04 11:45:17 AM  
That's what I need, constant ads for porn, lube, condoms, viagra, porn and more porn.

\Porn
 
2012-12-04 11:46:53 AM  

John Redcorn:

If the product is "free" then you are really the product. This is how they get you.


This is what I keep trying to tell my mother. Nobody gives you anything for free. They ALL want your money, they are NEVER doing it to be nice to you. They start by getting you on their list so they can sell you to the next guy. All those 'free' things are bait to get live names, phone numbers, address, email address. And she wonders why she gets 70-80 catalogs a week. She just won't recycle them until she's gone through every single one, every single page, every single item. Hours upon hours of unnecessary reading, with her horrible eyesight. I keep telling her that she doesn't have to do this "Oh, I do, I might miss something we need." And then she complains about not having enough time to get real stuff done.

/Facepalm smilie here
 
2012-12-04 11:48:03 AM  
i830.photobucket.com

...but how did you get a camera in my house?

/when big brother wants a camera in your house, he'll make sure you want it there and put it there
 
2012-12-04 11:55:02 AM  
I can't imagine ever wanting or using this service, but in the unlikely event that it was in my house, they'd assume my girlfriend lives alone.

I tend to be the silent type.
 
2012-12-04 11:57:02 AM  
So I am about to receive an influx of Vaseline commercials?
 
2012-12-04 12:00:13 PM  

THX 1138: 1. Put laptop near set-top box.

2. Stream endless porn with volume up.

3. Profit.


I fail to see how you profit from this
 
2012-12-04 12:01:26 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Welcome to Obama's America!

Thanks a lot libs!


-1/10 You weren't even trying. How many threads have you copy/pasted this in? However, you contribute to my desire to have the Smart and Funny button joined by a Derp button.
 
2012-12-04 12:01:29 PM  
Anyone ever read 1984, viewscreens, Orwell? Why would people do this?

Except it isn't government doing it, it is private enterprise.

/My kinect stays pointed towards the nearest wall when not in use.
//Yes I am cell phones monitoring devices.
 
2012-12-04 12:04:48 PM  
corronchilejano


Uranus Is Huge!: Welcome to Obama's America!

Thanks a lot libs!

Truly, if Romney was president he'd give Verizon all the tax cuts they need to make sure they don't need to do this to make a profit.

Instead we get the obamessiah who makes sure they won't need a warrant.

gps w/o warrant

Detention w/o charge, trial, or warrant

Wiretaps w/o warrant

and so on, and so on, and so on.......

/// bush's fault.... right?
 
2012-12-04 12:06:10 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Why would people do this?


www.motherjones.com
 
2012-12-04 12:08:55 PM  
Burr,
Enemabag Jones: Why would people do this?

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Would not do that either.
 
2012-12-04 12:15:40 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Burr,
Enemabag Jones: Why would people do this?
blog_progressive_snapshot.jpg

Would not do that either.


You might not, but you don't care about SAVINGS
 
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