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(Reuters)   After 35 years, Voyager 1 is 11 billion miles away and has reached the end of the solar system. Boy, don't you wish NASA made cars?   ( reuters.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Voyager, NASA, Ed Stone, Supernova, American Geophysical Union  
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2012-12-04 12:04:17 PM  
6 votes:
Boy, don't you wish NASA made cars had a larger budget?

Yes.
2012-12-04 01:18:00 PM  
3 votes:

croesius: The article mentions how long radio signals at the speed of light reach earth, but is it transmitting in light? Or radio? Not sure if I am missing something. But how long does a radio signal take to make it to earth from there?


It is transmitting radio signals. Radio signals and visible light are both regions on the electromagnetic spectrum. Both travel at the same velocity in a vacuum: 186,000 mi/sec.
2012-12-04 11:34:03 AM  
3 votes:
i212.photobucket.com
2012-12-04 07:26:16 AM  
3 votes:
i76.photobucket.com
2012-12-04 07:21:48 PM  
2 votes:

t3knomanser: If NASA made cars, they'd cost $1Bn. When something breaks, you won't be able to fix or replace it, instead an engineer will write ten-thousand new lines of code to program some other part on your car to do the job instead. It'll be solar powered, and the body will have the same sexy curves you might see on a brick.


The rover on Mars recently put there by a rocket powered skycrane is telling you to shut the hell up. NASA does way more with far less money than any other government agency, despite having to suffer being "led" by political appointees who learned their science from the back of boxed cereals. NASA is something to be proud of, and generally the people who mock their successes either suffer from tiny rocket syndrome, or mental midgets who think the reason space is black is because it isn't directly illuminated by the light of Jesus.

In short, go choke on twelve cocks.
2012-12-04 01:14:46 PM  
2 votes:

croesius: The article mentions how long radio signals at the speed of light reach earth, but is it transmitting in light? Or radio? Not sure if I am missing something. But how long does a radio signal take to make it to earth from there?


Radio and light are both electromagnetic radiation. They travel at the same speed.
2012-12-04 01:04:29 PM  
2 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: jshine: The more you eat the more you fart: We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.

Hint: this is what's doing the receiving.


(The "Mars" antenna at NASA's Goldstone Deep Space Network facility)

But the transmitter is what...45watts at most?

Even at 100watts..a 100watt light bulb 11 billion miles away.



Admittedly it's a very impressive accomplishment regardless of how good the receiving antenna is.
2012-12-04 12:07:48 PM  
2 votes:

germ78: Boy, don't you wish NASA made cars had a larger budget?

Yes.


Agreed.
2012-12-04 11:53:59 AM  
2 votes:
Voyager > DS9
2012-12-04 11:53:23 AM  
2 votes:

Mark Ratner: SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]

So, the caption in the picture is wrong and it didn't really exit the solar system back in 1990?


The definition of "exit the solar system" has been getting revised based on the Voyager probes. There's "out past the last planet," then there's "so far away the sun's own 'wind' is overcome by outside forces."

It's getting damn close to the latter, which is what makes it so amazing. We have had precious little idea about what it's like once you hit the heliopause.
2012-12-04 08:22:01 AM  
2 votes:
If NASA made cars, they'd cost $1Bn. When something breaks, you won't be able to fix or replace it, instead an engineer will write ten-thousand new lines of code to program some other part on your car to do the job instead. It'll be solar powered, and the body will have the same sexy curves you might see on a brick.
2012-12-04 01:27:42 PM  
1 vote:
I'm an OTR driver (yes, chicken fingers and cigarettes are my diet in between having sex with HIV positive hookers) and came here to say this: There's a huge difference in the kinds of miles traveled. Most semi tractors spend their time out on the highway at constant speed. That's much kinder to the equipment than constant acceleration, braking, and turning that one finds in more urbanized areas. Diesel engines also tend to be longer lived than their gasoline powered counterparts. Furthermore, a vehicle maintained with great interest by the user (when it earns your paycheck, you pay close attention to problems) is always going to last longer than one where the user pays no attention to the trouble light that looks like a little oil lamp.
2012-12-04 01:26:58 PM  
1 vote:
I dont get the hate for Voyager and especially for Capt Janeway. My pet theory on the later is that nerds don't understand strong willed older female characters. The only thing they can relate to are females who belong in some comic book (e.g. big tits and skin suit). Hence the hate for Janeway. Voyager was interesting because they encountered new planets and races in most every episode so its like the premise of the original series and it made it interesting AND unlike original star trek, TNG - there was an underlying theme of an actual specific mission (we're lost, we need to get home).

DS9, which I tried to watch this summer on netflix (saw only maybe a quarter of the episodes during its original run), was so boring outside of the Dominion war stuff and maybe some of the episodes involving the Ferenghi (like Quark). They're on a space station so its not like they encounter new planets/races each episode, and there are all those long drawn out boring stuff with Sisko and his kid or his family. Zzzzzzzzz.....
2012-12-04 01:18:58 PM  
1 vote:

croesius: The article mentions how long radio signals at the speed of light reach earth, but is it transmitting in light? Or radio? Not sure if I am missing something. But how long does a radio signal take to make it to earth from there?


hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu
2012-12-04 01:03:04 PM  
1 vote:

jshine: The more you eat the more you fart: We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.

Hint: this is what's doing the receiving.


(The "Mars" antenna at NASA's Goldstone Deep Space Network facility)


But the transmitter is what...45watts at most?

Even at 100watts..a 100watt light bulb 11 billion miles away.
2012-12-04 12:55:08 PM  
1 vote:

The more you eat the more you fart: We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.


Hint: this is what's doing the receiving.

davebullock.com
(The "Mars" antenna at NASA's Goldstone Deep Space Network facility)
2012-12-04 12:50:01 PM  
1 vote:
Voyager is awesome. It's gotta have among the best (if not the best) ROI of anything the space program has produced.

ROI being expressed in terms of stuff sent back (ie, pictures and other data).
2012-12-04 12:41:54 PM  
1 vote:

SuddenlySamhain: I turned off my TV so I could read this article without distractions.
I dont know much,But I know that Voyagers journey is a marvell that almost defies description.Part of me envies the things it will see over the next several hundred thousand years and part of me feels a bit forlorn that there may be no one left on Earth to share in its discoveries.


The Voyagers wouldn't have the power to transmit any data back after that kind of time. The cameras (and many other instruments) are already non-functional. Since the probes weren't meant for this kind of endurance, they're only managing to function by selectively shutting down various systems to save power. At some point in the not-very-distant future, there won't be enough juice left to power even the core systems, and the probes will go dark, just like the Pioneer probes (which also are exiting the solar system, but are completely lost).
2012-12-04 12:39:41 PM  
1 vote:
How much better off would our world be if this received the media attention nonsense like the Petreus scandal gets? One can only imagine...
2012-12-04 12:37:15 PM  
1 vote:

Mark Ratner: SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]

So, the caption in the picture is wrong and it didn't really exit the solar system back in 1990?


media.tumblr.com
2012-12-04 12:31:08 PM  
1 vote:

ChipNASA: Biness: Apparently they're in the very early stages of developing a warp drive.


NASA is working on a faster than Light Warp Drive.
/rly?? Ya Rly!
//Clickypops


i know it may not happen in my lifetime, but i hope to God it does.
2012-12-04 12:13:32 PM  
1 vote:
I turned off my TV so I could read this article without distractions.
I dont know much,But I know that Voyagers journey is a marvell that almost defies description.Part of me envies the things it will see over the next several hundred thousand years and part of me feels a bit forlorn that there may be no one left on Earth to share in its discoveries.
2012-12-04 12:13:02 PM  
1 vote:

SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]


While Voyager has long ago move beyond the planetary zone of our solar system, it has not technically left the solar system itself. It is currently in the heliosphere. Since the exact size of the heliosphere and the exact location of the heliopause (the edge) is not precisely known, no one knew exactly when Voyager would enter interstellar space. Voyager passed through the termination shock in 2004 and it was estimated that it would need 10 more years to reach the heliopause. Voyager has instruments on board to study the gravitational effects of the strong solar wind in this zone. One of the goals is to get a better map of the heliosphere.

/source NASA
2012-12-04 12:10:40 PM  
1 vote:

Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.


It's weird how rocks can last for millions of yeas but trees only last for century or two.

Apples to oranges.

1st - you're talking about diesels engines, which are simpler and over-built to handle the stress and of diesel combustion. Likewsie, the car is often overbuilt around the engine.

2nd - One is designed for handling, roominess, and ride comfort, the other is designed to haul stuff.

3rd - Most of those trucks receive constant maintenance.

4th - Cost. Obviously price ranges vary..but I've heard that $60,000 is the starting point with some of the nicer (newer) ones being $100,000+. Which is why they receive constant maintenance...it's cheaper to put money into maintenance every year than it is to buy a new truck. Especially when it costs so much to buy a new truck.

It's not that cars can't be made to last that long..it's that after 5-10 years..most people want to go out an get a new model.
2012-12-04 12:08:03 PM  
1 vote:

Headso: j__z: I'd like to see a few more deep space probes sent out. Seeing that those probes are 35 years old and weren't meant for interstellar studies, It be interesting to see what type of info new ones could send back

/I said probe...giggity.

Also, could we send one out these days with better propulsion technology that would move it out that far in less time? Does NASA have any stuff like that they are testing right now? what's the deal...


i think New Horizons was designed for the Kuiper belt and beyond, once pluto is passed.
2012-12-04 12:07:14 PM  
1 vote:

occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.


perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs
2012-12-04 12:02:21 PM  
1 vote:
I'd like to see a few more deep space probes sent out. Seeing that those probes are 35 years old and weren't meant for interstellar studies, It be interesting to see what type of info new ones could send back

/I said probe...giggity.
2012-12-04 11:59:01 AM  
1 vote:
webodysseum.com
2012-12-04 11:52:46 AM  
1 vote:
He's probably waiting for Voyager, with his uranium Q38 explosive space modulator.

poietes.files.wordpress.com
2012-12-04 11:52:24 AM  
1 vote:
i222.photobucket.com
2012-12-04 10:18:42 AM  
1 vote:
I wish they had a bumper sticker on it.

"If found, please return to Earth, Sol System...NO REWARD"

/You don't want to offer a reward to aliens, they may think we have a lot more
2012-12-04 09:25:14 AM  
1 vote:
Don't you hear my call
Though you're many years away
Don't you hear me calling you
Write your letters in the sand
For the day I take your hand
In the land that our grandchildren knew

See you out there, V'ger.
2012-12-04 06:05:12 AM  
1 vote:
Holy cow. Go NASA
 
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