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(Reuters)   After 35 years, Voyager 1 is 11 billion miles away and has reached the end of the solar system. Boy, don't you wish NASA made cars?   (reuters.com) divider line 167
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2012-12-04 12:14:07 PM

JackieRabbit: SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]

While Voyager has long ago move beyond the planetary zone of our solar system, it has not technically left the solar system itself. It is currently in the heliosphere. Since the exact size of the heliosphere and the exact location of the heliopause (the edge) is not precisely known, no one knew exactly when Voyager would enter interstellar space. Voyager passed through the termination shock in 2004 and it was estimated that it would need 10 more years to reach the heliopause. Voyager has instruments on board to study the gravitational effects of the strong solar wind in this zone. One of the goals is to get a better map of the heliosphere.

/source NASA


aka Read the rest of the thread where I acknowledge the caption is incorrect, but the picture is cool.
 
2012-12-04 12:14:25 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.


A new semi with trailer costs as much as a house.
 
2012-12-04 12:14:59 PM

JackieRabbit: SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]

While Voyager has long ago move beyond the planetary zone of our solar system, it has not technically left the solar system itself. It is currently in the heliosphere. Since the exact size of the heliosphere and the exact location of the heliopause (the edge) is not precisely known, no one knew exactly when Voyager would enter interstellar space. Voyager passed through the termination shock in 2004 and it was estimated that it would need 10 more years to reach the heliopause. Voyager has instruments on board to study the gravitational effects of the strong solar wind in this zone. One of the goals is to get a better map of the heliosphere.

/source NASA


its on the magnetic highway now....ON THE GREAT SPACE COASTER!
 
2012-12-04 12:15:50 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: chewielouie: Voyager > DS9

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 292x249]


That man is bat shiat crazy today. Spent too much time with the prophets me thinks.
 
2012-12-04 12:17:56 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible


I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?
 
2012-12-04 12:18:17 PM

SnarfVader: True. The definition of the outside of the solar system is constantly evolving. That picture was made a while ago and we've learned so much since the late 90's/ early 00's. I still think it's an amazing picture, despite the caption.


Indeed.

The earth is (rather literally) our whole world; to have an outside picture of it looking so small is quite the mind bender.

This stuff is why I like astronomy; there's so much out there to learn and explore, and we know so little. We even need to make scientific breakthroughs on the order of Newton and Einstein (or even more so) in order to get out there and keep on learning. Humbling, yet so awe inspiring.
 
2012-12-04 12:18:54 PM
I think the most amazing thing is that its transmitter has enough power to get a readable signal all the way back to Earth.
 
2012-12-04 12:20:36 PM

SuddenlySamhain: I turned off my TV so I could read this article without distractions.
I dont know much,But I know that Voyagers journey is a marvell that almost defies description.Part of me envies the things it will see over the next several hundred thousand years and part of me feels a bit forlorn that there may be no one left on Earth to share in its discoveries.


Better turn it back on before the Handicapper General, Diana Moon Glampers, finds out.
 
2012-12-04 12:20:53 PM

Biness: JackieRabbit: SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]

While Voyager has long ago move beyond the planetary zone of our solar system, it has not technically left the solar system itself. It is currently in the heliosphere. Since the exact size of the heliosphere and the exact location of the heliopause (the edge) is not precisely known, no one knew exactly when Voyager would enter interstellar space. Voyager passed through the termination shock in 2004 and it was estimated that it would need 10 more years to reach the heliopause. Voyager has instruments on board to study the gravitational effects of the strong solar wind in this zone. One of the goals is to get a better map of the heliosphere.

/source NASA

its on the magnetic highway now....ON THE GREAT SPACE COASTER!


data.whicdn.com
Great to see ya! We're gonna have a great jump today!

/rip it roll it and punch it!
//in SPACE!
 
2012-12-04 12:22:06 PM

t3knomanser: It'll be solar powered


No, it would be powered by RTG, and travel at a scorching speed of 0.5mph. It would also look rather like a centaur version of that robot from the movie "Short Circuit".

akula: The definition of "exit the solar system" has been getting revised based on the Voyager probes. There's "out past the last planet," then there's "so far away the sun's own 'wind' is overcome by outside forces."


There is no strict definition, and never was. The Sun's Hill sphere extends out past one light-year, well beyond the heliopause. There could very well be a Mars-sized planet orbiting the Sun one-quarter of the way to Proxima Centauri and we'd have no way to detect it (with current technology, anyway).

Voyager 1 has reached the end of the heliosphere, but that's not the only boundary. NASA has rather badly miscommunicated this, in my opinion, but the reason why Voyager 1's discovery is significant isn't that it's reached the edge of the Sun's influence. It hasn't; it's still affected by the Sun's gravity. What's exciting is that being there is the only way to research this part of space. It's not just there; the findings have re-written our entire chapter on the heliosphere and heliopause.
 
2012-12-04 12:22:08 PM
That's not the Creator, V'ger. That's my mom. There's a difference.
 
2012-12-04 12:22:09 PM

Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?


Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it
 
2012-12-04 12:22:42 PM

basemetal: Wake me up when it hits the ort cloud.


Given that it's 17 light hours from Earth, which means it might as well be 17 light hours from the Sun, it's already well past the Kupier Belt (~7 light hours for the outer boundary), and it's actually well within the possible inner boundary of the Oort cloud since it's already gone well past what few possible Oort cloud member candidates we know of.
 
2012-12-04 12:22:53 PM

dittybopper: Biness: i think New Horizons was designed for the Kuiper belt and beyond, once pluto is passed.

Yeah, if they can find an object close enough to its trajectory to study. Last I heard, they hadn't identified any.


I thought they just hadn't decided yet in part because that leg of the program isn't funded yet.
 
2012-12-04 12:23:56 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Voyager 1 is officially lost.
 
2012-12-04 12:24:41 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it


wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.
 
2012-12-04 12:25:16 PM
Evil aliens will find it and come to earth to eat us. Stupid records they put in it.
 
2012-12-04 12:25:24 PM

dragonchild: There could very well be a Mars-sized planet orbiting the Sun one-quarter of the way to Proxima Centauri and we'd have no way to detect it (with current technology, anyway).


Honestly, there could be a planet bigger than Jupiter out there. Some controversial theories do propose such a planet. However, the WISE might be able to detect it if it were in the right spot because its temperature should be above background.
 
2012-12-04 12:27:14 PM

Deep Contact: Evil aliens will find it and come to earth to eat us. Stupid records they put in it.


Ah, you're just mad because your garage band didn't make the cut.
 
2012-12-04 12:28:03 PM

Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it

wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.


I LOLed.
 
2012-12-04 12:28:13 PM

Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it

wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.


It certainly makes Leia's line "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought" more trenchant.
 
2012-12-04 12:28:31 PM

Biness: Apparently they're in the very early stages of developing a warp drive.



NASA is working on a faster than Light Warp Drive.
/rly?? Ya Rly!
//Clickypops
 
2012-12-04 12:28:45 PM

JackieRabbit: Deep Contact: Evil aliens will find it and come to earth to eat us. Stupid records they put in it.

Ah, you're just mad because your garage band didn't make the cut.


In a Saturday Night Live segment ("Next Week in Review") in episode 64 of the show's third season, Steve Martin's character, a psychic named Cocuwa, predicts that the cover of Time Magazine for the upcoming week will show the four words "Send more Chuck Berry," which had supposedly been sent from extraterrestrials to Earth the week before
 
2012-12-04 12:30:06 PM

dittybopper: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it

wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.

It certainly makes Leia's line "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought" more trenchant.


and Han's classic, "i don't care what you smell, get in there" and of course "I thought they smelled bad on the outside"
 
2012-12-04 12:31:08 PM

ChipNASA: Biness: Apparently they're in the very early stages of developing a warp drive.


NASA is working on a faster than Light Warp Drive.
/rly?? Ya Rly!
//Clickypops


i know it may not happen in my lifetime, but i hope to God it does.
 
2012-12-04 12:34:07 PM

dittybopper: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it

wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.

It certainly makes Leia's line "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought" more trenchant.


Ha!!!! Perfect
 
2012-12-04 12:34:36 PM

dittybopper: Yeah, if they can find an object close enough to its trajectory to study. Last I heard, they hadn't identified any.


No official announcements (which would be stupid when the probe is still en route to its primary destination), but there are targets:
http://www.icehunters.org/

With all available resources focusing on the one-shot take that is Pluto, there'll be plenty of time later to go through the KBO list.
 
2012-12-04 12:35:58 PM

chewielouie: Voyager > DS9


Oooo look! A Trek troll!

"Voyager" was horrid, or at least, horrid for as long as I held my nose and watched it.

It violated one of the cardinal rules of Trek regarding technology (Don't introduce cool new tech then largely ignore it - e.g. 'biocomputer systems').

It had a central Captain who had the charm and charsima of unpainted drywall.

Its worst offense, however, was one you had to live through to appreciate. There was absolutely no NEED or POINT to the show being created in the first place.

Paramount: 'We are cancelling TNG'
Masses: HOWL!
Paramount: "But-um... we are doing a NEW show to replace it. Sort of."
Massess: WTF? Why not just re-fresh the TNG franchise with a new crew?
Paramount: ......
 
2012-12-04 12:37:15 PM

Mark Ratner: SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 368x500]

So, the caption in the picture is wrong and it didn't really exit the solar system back in 1990?


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-04 12:38:07 PM
images.whatmap.multiply.com

'Well, bye.'
 
2012-12-04 12:39:41 PM
How much better off would our world be if this received the media attention nonsense like the Petreus scandal gets? One can only imagine...
 
2012-12-04 12:40:41 PM
Does this story hold the record for most times posted on Fark?
 
2012-12-04 12:41:06 PM

ChipNASA: Biness: Apparently they're in the very early stages of developing a warp drive.


NASA is working on a faster than Light Warp Drive.
/rly?? Ya Rly!
//Clickypops


Um yea, about that.....
imageshack.us
 
2012-12-04 12:41:54 PM

SuddenlySamhain: I turned off my TV so I could read this article without distractions.
I dont know much,But I know that Voyagers journey is a marvell that almost defies description.Part of me envies the things it will see over the next several hundred thousand years and part of me feels a bit forlorn that there may be no one left on Earth to share in its discoveries.


The Voyagers wouldn't have the power to transmit any data back after that kind of time. The cameras (and many other instruments) are already non-functional. Since the probes weren't meant for this kind of endurance, they're only managing to function by selectively shutting down various systems to save power. At some point in the not-very-distant future, there won't be enough juice left to power even the core systems, and the probes will go dark, just like the Pioneer probes (which also are exiting the solar system, but are completely lost).
 
2012-12-04 12:43:29 PM

The One True TheDavid: That's not the Creator, V'ger. That's my mom. There's a difference.


images.wikia.com
 
2012-12-04 12:50:01 PM
Voyager is awesome. It's gotta have among the best (if not the best) ROI of anything the space program has produced.

ROI being expressed in terms of stuff sent back (ie, pictures and other data).
 
2012-12-04 12:53:10 PM
We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.
 
2012-12-04 12:55:08 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.


Hint: this is what's doing the receiving.

davebullock.com
(The "Mars" antenna at NASA's Goldstone Deep Space Network facility)
 
2012-12-04 12:57:22 PM

Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it

wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.


You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought
 
2012-12-04 01:00:14 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: Waxing_Chewbacca: Biness: occamswrist: Bit'O'Gristle: funny how we make cars to last only about 1ook miles, but a semi can last over a million.

Semis are measured in minutes, not miles.

perhaps thats why Han said the Millennium Falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs

That's impossible

I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

Your mom and the load I dumped in her last night

/ makes for a bit of a different film, doesn't it

wow. yea, thats just unpleasant.

You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought


pokerfraudalert.com
 
2012-12-04 01:02:07 PM

ObscureNameHere: Its worst offense, however, was one you had to live through to appreciate. There was absolutely no NEED or POINT to the show being created in the first place.

 

Yeah. Pretty much just actor salaries / increasing production costs. TV reboots are rare, not so much with film.
 
2012-12-04 01:03:04 PM

jshine: The more you eat the more you fart: We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.

Hint: this is what's doing the receiving.


(The "Mars" antenna at NASA's Goldstone Deep Space Network facility)


But the transmitter is what...45watts at most?

Even at 100watts..a 100watt light bulb 11 billion miles away.
 
2012-12-04 01:04:29 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: jshine: The more you eat the more you fart: We can get data from a proble in the heliosphere 11 billion miles away, but we cant get reliable broadband internet outside of major metro areas. Confused.

Hint: this is what's doing the receiving.


(The "Mars" antenna at NASA's Goldstone Deep Space Network facility)

But the transmitter is what...45watts at most?

Even at 100watts..a 100watt light bulb 11 billion miles away.



Admittedly it's a very impressive accomplishment regardless of how good the receiving antenna is.
 
2012-12-04 01:04:44 PM

ObscureNameHere: chewielouie: Voyager > DS9

Oooo look! A Trek troll!

"Voyager" was horrid, or at least, horrid for as long as I held my nose and watched it.

It violated one of the cardinal rules of Trek regarding technology (Don't introduce cool new tech then largely ignore it - e.g. 'biocomputer systems').

It had a central Captain who had the charm and charsima of unpainted drywall.

Its worst offense, however, was one you had to live through to appreciate. There was absolutely no NEED or POINT to the show being created in the first place.

Paramount: 'We are cancelling TNG'
Masses: HOWL!
Paramount: "But-um... we are doing a NEW show to replace it. Sort of."
Massess: WTF? Why not just re-fresh the TNG franchise with a new crew?
Paramount: ......


Actually, it was better than TNG as well. Take away the Borg and Q episodes of TNG, and most of what is left is practically unwatchable today.
 
2012-12-04 01:06:36 PM

SnarfVader: Biness: SnarfVader: Biness: [www.allpar.com image 576x129]

what a voyager may look like.


I love NASA so much. I wish we'd spend so much more on exploration. Apparently they're in the very early stages of developing a warp drive.

Your gif isn't working. Must be hot.

not a gif. just a jpeg. and hot as blazes. as hot as voyager is cold.

/its lonely out in space

[i212.photobucket.com image 546x270]

You meant this?


Hey don't knock it, I had a 1985 Astro Van


/Mid 80's was a good time to be a space nerd
 
2012-12-04 01:07:16 PM

chewielouie: Actually, it was better than TNG as well. Take away the Borg and Q episodes of TNG, and most of what is left is practically unwatchable today.


Blasphemy!
 
2012-12-04 01:13:47 PM
The article mentions how long radio signals at the speed of light reach earth, but is it transmitting in light? Or radio? Not sure if I am missing something. But how long does a radio signal take to make it to earth from there?
 
2012-12-04 01:14:46 PM

croesius: The article mentions how long radio signals at the speed of light reach earth, but is it transmitting in light? Or radio? Not sure if I am missing something. But how long does a radio signal take to make it to earth from there?


Radio and light are both electromagnetic radiation. They travel at the same speed.
 
2012-12-04 01:18:00 PM

croesius: The article mentions how long radio signals at the speed of light reach earth, but is it transmitting in light? Or radio? Not sure if I am missing something. But how long does a radio signal take to make it to earth from there?


It is transmitting radio signals. Radio signals and visible light are both regions on the electromagnetic spectrum. Both travel at the same velocity in a vacuum: 186,000 mi/sec.
 
2012-12-04 01:18:45 PM
Why don't they send out another one of these probes with the ability to continue functioning and sending back data for, like, 100 years?

What? Is that a dumb question?
 
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