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2012-12-04 06:32:53 AM
Article fails to mention coconut's other health "benefit", the fact that it can have an often violent laxative effect on some people.
 
2012-12-04 08:14:26 AM
Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-04 08:50:25 AM
Did anyone ever say that couscous was good for you? It's pasta.
 
2012-12-04 09:16:55 AM
Smoked mackerel?

I don't think you know my mom.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-04 10:16:28 AM
Woody Allen warned us about this.
 
2012-12-04 10:19:03 AM

vpb: Did anyone ever say that couscous was good for you? It's pasta.



A lot of people eat it in the back country (I don't) as it processes through the body moderately (as opposed to fast or slow) and provides carbs as it does....and of course, it packs can cooks easily. I'll stick with my rice concoctions.
 
2012-12-04 10:24:01 AM

Diogenes: I don't think you know my mom.


Cold fish?
 
2012-12-04 10:25:39 AM

mikemoto: Article fails to mention coconut's other health "benefit", the fact that it can have an often violent laxative effect on some people.


The POOP THREAD anigif now needs to have a dancing coconut in it.
 
2012-12-04 10:26:13 AM

Eddy Gurge: Diogenes: I don't think you know my mom.

Cold fish?


And she used to be a heavy smoker. Odd, that.
 
2012-12-04 11:33:22 AM
My Mom never said any of that was good subby. You lie.
I made an attempt at being all Paleo last year and one of the recipes was for cocnut oil mayonaise. No, it was absolute sh*t so don't try it at home boys and girls.
 
2012-12-04 11:39:53 AM

Sybarite: Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.


A thousand times THIS!
 
2012-12-04 11:45:08 AM

Eddy Gurge: Diogenes: I don't think you know my mom.

Cold fish?


Only at first.
 
2012-12-04 11:46:22 AM

AbbeySomeone: My Mom never said any of that was good subby. You lie.
I made an attempt at being all Paleo last year and one of the recipes was for cocnut oil mayonaise. No, it was absolute sh*t so don't try it at home boys and girls.


Coconut oil is not fit for consumption.
 
2012-12-04 11:50:15 AM
I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT.
 
2012-12-04 11:50:23 AM
Apple Juice is still good in my books! So screw the article. Ill keep drinking it cause its healthy still.
 
2012-12-04 11:53:13 AM

AbbeySomeone: My Mom never said any of that was good subby. You lie.
I made an attempt at being all Paleo last year and one of the recipes was for cocnut oil mayonaise. No, it was absolute sh*t so don't try it at home boys and girls.


Any diet that recommends people eat coconut oil mayonnaise should be suspect. Also any diet recommended by Crossfit
 
2012-12-04 11:56:03 AM
Hmm...

Eat food.

Not too much.

Mostly plants.
 
2012-12-04 12:01:55 PM

RedVentrue: AbbeySomeone: My Mom never said any of that was good subby. You lie.
I made an attempt at being all Paleo last year and one of the recipes was for cocnut oil mayonaise. No, it was absolute sh*t so don't try it at home boys and girls.

Coconut oil is not fit for consumption.


I fried up some pumpkin slices in coconut oil last night, so I'm getting a big kick.

(My oven is acting weird so it was quicker than waiting the additional hour it took the rest of the pumpkin in the oven)

They were good too. Musquee de provence FTW.
 
2012-12-04 12:04:21 PM

meat0918: Eat food.

Not too much.

Mostly plants.


Plants are not food. Plants are what food eats.
 
2012-12-04 12:04:38 PM
i'm sure they're all still better than fried potatoes, pizza and ice cream
 
2012-12-04 12:05:03 PM
Cauliflower. That is the stuff of nightmares.
 
Skr
2012-12-04 12:11:02 PM
FTA In regards to lettuce "Alternatively, wilt leaves to make it easier to eat more of them." gah, wilted greens have a horrid texture and consistency in my opinion.

They also knock coconut but coconut is awesome. Milk, Water, and Oil are all very useful and tasty. Mmmmmm coconut oil popped popcorn. Also useful if you need a horse.
 
2012-12-04 12:11:43 PM
Headline is retarded, and so was the article.
 
2012-12-04 12:12:22 PM

CygnusDarius: Cauliflower. That is the stuff of nightmares.


I ate a pound of it raw yesterday.
 
2012-12-04 12:13:31 PM
phew, thought they were going to say something bad about bacon

/ on a 'add bacon to most things' diet. it all started one day when i ran out of olive oil. just replaced olive oil with bacon fat. and, according to my selective research, it's pretty much just as good for you.
 
2012-12-04 12:14:06 PM
Sure. Skip out on fats that the species has had millions of years of evolution developing a digestive process for.

Instead eat lots of carbs from domesticated plants, with a mere 10K-20K year exposure.

Neolithic agricultural revolution traded off food security for dietary usefulness.

But its healthy. (right)

/undomesticated plants are full of poisons, except for parts they want to have eaten (like fruit to spread seeds). Plants = dangerous
//most poisonous animals (different than venomous) concentrate their poison from plants. Example, puffer fish. Danger free fugu if you raise them on your food, not wild food. Animals in general are made out of food
///skip people. Too many prions
 
2012-12-04 12:17:24 PM
So Vlad_the_Inaner gave the best and most valid nutritional advice I've heard yet. Don't Eat People. Not only too many prions, full of toxins.
 
2012-12-04 12:18:49 PM

pute kisses like a man: phew, thought they were going to say something bad about bacon

/ on a 'add bacon to most things' diet. it all started one day when i ran out of olive oil. just replaced olive oil with bacon fat. and, according to my selective research, it's pretty much just as good for you.


I like to lightly steam Brussels Sprouts and sautee' them in bacon grease with black pepper.
 
2012-12-04 12:19:20 PM

Smackledorfer: CygnusDarius: Cauliflower. That is the stuff of nightmares.

I ate a pound of it raw yesterday.


I'm with you. Love the stuff. Wife makes something similar to mashed potatoes out of it. Yum.
 
2012-12-04 12:19:44 PM
Wow, that article is retarded.

Saturated fat isn't bad. The mercury in smoked mackerel (depending on the kind of mackerel) or the sodium are far worse than the fat.

All of those are a hell of a lot better for you than junk food like fries and chips. This article is going to get fatties to say "See? Iceberg lettuce is bad for you! My fries are healthier than your salad!"

And iceberg lettuce is still not bad for you -- just not as healthy as other greens like spinach and romaine.
 
2012-12-04 12:25:51 PM

AbbeySomeone: p
I like to lightly steam Brussels Sprouts and sautee' them in bacon grease with black pepper.


I cook down little pieces of bacon until crispy, add walnut pieces right near the end, and then toss with the steamed brussel sprouts. Heavenly!

/half-Hungarian - bacon fat goes with everything
 
2012-12-04 12:26:06 PM

vpb: Did anyone ever say that couscous was good for you? It's pasta.


I had the same reaction: "Who's Mom serves you this stuff?" Then I realized the article is from Austria. They eat weird stuff up there.

And the suggested alternatives suck.

Instead of couscous, eat quinoa.
Instead of apple and other common fruit juices, drink berry juices. (Similarly high in sugar, but more nutrient dense).
Instead of iceberg, eat romaine, or spinach, kale, chard, etc.
Instead of cottage cheese, eat low-fat cottage (not as disgusting as you'd think, if you're already ok with eating curdled milk).
Instead of mackerel, eat salmon.
I don't know what you'd eat in place of coconut; you eat coconut for the taste and to fight aggressive blockage. Maybe some Colon Blow.

It has also occurred to me that that is six items, not five, so double fail.
 
2012-12-04 12:29:21 PM

Carth: AbbeySomeone: Also any diet recommended by Crossfit


Yeah, beacause those are some unhealthy mutha ... oh wait.

/Spent seven months surrounded by crossfit / paleo nuts
//But they were in amazing shape
///I, however, am far from it
 
2012-12-04 12:31:58 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: /undomesticated plants are full of poisons, except for parts they want to have eaten (like fruit to spread seeds).


Are you for real? Many edible plants contain lots of poisonous substances.
 
2012-12-04 12:34:33 PM

Uisce Beatha: Carth: AbbeySomeone: Also any diet recommended by Crossfit

Yeah, beacause those are some unhealthy mutha ... oh wait.

/Spent seven months surrounded by crossfit / paleo nuts
//But they were in amazing shape
///I, however, am far from it


Hangout with anyone who works out 4-6 times a week at a high intensity level and they'll be in good shape. You don't need to do lifts with crappy form and eat a poor diet to reach your fitness goals.

/unless your goal is to be better at crossfit
 
2012-12-04 12:35:15 PM

Snatch Bandergrip: vpb: Did anyone ever say that couscous was good for you? It's pasta.

I had the same reaction: "Who's Mom serves you this stuff?" Then I realized the article is from Austria. They eat weird stuff up there.

And the suggested alternatives suck.

Instead of couscous, eat quinoa.
Instead of apple and other common fruit juices, drink berry juices. (Similarly high in sugar, but more nutrient dense).
Instead of iceberg, eat romaine, or spinach, kale, chard, etc.
Instead of cottage cheese, eat low-fat cottage (not as disgusting as you'd think, if you're already ok with eating curdled milk).
Instead of mackerel, eat salmon.
I don't know what you'd eat in place of coconut; you eat coconut for the taste and to fight aggressive blockage. Maybe some Colon Blow.

It has also occurred to me that that is six items, not five, so double fail.


Quinoa. A grain in such high demand in the first world that we're causing shortages in the places it is grown, like Bolivia.

I wonder when domestic production will start?
 
2012-12-04 12:37:12 PM
Yeah? My mom also said milk was good for me, but I'M LACTOSE INTOLERANT. She lied to my face, and all I got was an insatiable hunger for cereal.

// ate 2 bowls of Kix for dinner last night, then wings for MNF - the dinner of champions
// CS(w/TMI)B: it tore me up something FIERCE this morning
// which reminds me - I gotta go get Lactaid
 
2012-12-04 12:37:58 PM
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This isn't healthy? B-B-But it has all the animals of the barnyard in it!
 
2012-12-04 12:39:31 PM

AbbeySomeone: pute kisses like a man: phew, thought they were going to say something bad about bacon

/ on a 'add bacon to most things' diet. it all started one day when i ran out of olive oil. just replaced olive oil with bacon fat. and, according to my selective research, it's pretty much just as good for you.

I like to lightly steam Brussels Sprouts and sautee' them in bacon grease with black pepper.


many vegetables belong in bacon fat. i like to smother greens in bacon fat. you know what. i think it should be renamed bacon oil... or, even better: huile de cochon!
 
2012-12-04 12:40:31 PM

Carth: Hangout with anyone who works out 4-6 times a week


8-10x a week. They were SOF guys on deployment. When they aren't doing something mission related, all they did was workout.

/Not a workout guru, no idea if Crossfit was better or worse than their previous regimens
//Xfit guys vs P90X guys were the Jets and the Sharks there
///Was just happy to lose weight while I was deployed
 
2012-12-04 12:41:09 PM
An 80g portion of fresh coconut flesh can count as one of your seven a day, but, very unusually for a fruit, it's astonishingly high in saturated fat.

That's because it's a nut, not a fruit. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME.
 
2012-12-04 12:43:05 PM

Arkanaut: An 80g portion of fresh coconut flesh can count as one of your seven a day, but, very unusually for a fruit, it's astonishingly high in saturated fat.

That's because it's a nut, not a fruit. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME.


It's both actually.
 
2012-12-04 12:44:00 PM

Arkanaut: An 80g portion of fresh coconut flesh can count as one of your seven a day, but, very unusually for a fruit, it's astonishingly high in saturated fat.

That's because it's a nut, not a fruit. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME.


It's not a nut, it's a fruit, and technically a drupe.
 
2012-12-04 12:44:24 PM

meat0918: Arkanaut: An 80g portion of fresh coconut flesh can count as one of your seven a day, but, very unusually for a fruit, it's astonishingly high in saturated fat.

That's because it's a nut, not a fruit. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME.

It's both actually.


Correction.

It's not a nut at all, but a drupe.
 
2012-12-04 12:49:49 PM

meat0918: Arkanaut: An 80g portion of fresh coconut flesh can count as one of your seven a day, but, very unusually for a fruit, it's astonishingly high in saturated fat.

That's because it's a nut, not a fruit. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME.

It's both actually.


I guess it's perfect for the times when you both feel like a nut and the times when you don't.
 
2012-12-04 12:50:11 PM
I don't understand how we can even still be having this discussion. Want to eat healthy? Here's how you do it:

Find a grocery store. This is the place where they sell food not pre-prepared by deepfrying in animal lard. Can usually be identified by the large parking lot out front and buggies arranged by the doors.

Enter the store and turn right. This is the vitamin section. You want to pick a wide variety of items from this area, with as many different colors as you can.

Next head down the back wall. This is the protein section. You should also pick a variety of items from this area, but more sparingly. 1 to 2 or even 1 to 3 ratio with the vitamin section.

Now head to the far left wall. This is the calcium section. You need to pick up a few things here to supplement your selections from the first two, but don't go overboard.

Lastly you'll need to do a quick search for the filler aisle. It will be situated somewhere in between the calcium section and the vitamin section and be distinguishable by containing bags or packages of material looking either like small or medium sized pellets. These items can be combined with water and then added to things you picked up from the protein and vitamin sections to round out a meal.

And that's it. The other aisles in the store contain nothing of value and are only there to confuse you. Do not be fooled by them.
 
2012-12-04 01:03:50 PM
So wait, you're saying that things that are mostly made of lipids or carbs are bad for me?
 
2012-12-04 01:03:51 PM

Vash's Apprentice: I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT.


Sounds like it's driving you crazy. Have a bear claw instead.

/What do you mean you're out of bear claws?
 
2012-12-04 01:12:22 PM

SnarfVader: Smackledorfer: CygnusDarius: Cauliflower. That is the stuff of nightmares.

I ate a pound of it raw yesterday.

I'm with you. Love the stuff. Wife makes something similar to mashed potatoes out of it. Yum.


Delicious.
 
2012-12-04 01:14:57 PM

oldfarthenry: [i1151.photobucket.com image 250x192]
This isn't healthy? B-B-But it has all the animals of the barnyard in it!


My mouth says it's awesome and that's good enough for me dammit!
 
2012-12-04 01:29:07 PM
"Coconuts are high in fat! Apple juice is sugary! Couscous is a pasta!"

Who the fark are these geniuses? Way to state the obvious, stupid article.
 
2012-12-04 01:34:08 PM

Uisce Beatha: Carth: Hangout with anyone who works out 4-6 times a week

8-10x a week. They were SOF guys on deployment. When they aren't doing something mission related, all they did was workout.

/Not a workout guru, no idea if Crossfit was better or worse than their previous regimens
//Xfit guys vs P90X guys were the Jets and the Sharks there
///Was just happy to lose weight while I was deployed


Crossfit sucks. They teach really dangerous exercises (and techniques) and they promote overtraining big time. If you want to get injured, do crossfit.

There is some good in it, of course, but you are better off not doing the stupid exercises they recommend (i.e. kipping pullups do nothing except mess up your shoulders and give you shiatty cardio). And the majority of the crossfit trainers wouldn't know good form if it bit them in the ass
 
2012-12-04 01:42:58 PM

machoprogrammer: Wow, that article is retarded.

Saturated fat isn't bad. The mercury in smoked mackerel (depending on the kind of mackerel) or the sodium are far worse than the fat.

All of those are a hell of a lot better for you than junk food like fries and chips. This article is going to get fatties to say "See? Iceberg lettuce is bad for you! My fries are healthier than your salad!"

And iceberg lettuce is still not bad for you -- just not as healthy as other greens like spinach and romaine.


That was my main issue. It said nothing about iceberg lettuce that is bad; just not as nutritious as you would think. Nothing indicates you're worse off for eating it.
 
2012-12-04 01:44:33 PM
CygnusDarius: Cauliflower. That is the stuff of nightmares.

I ate a pound of it raw yesterday.


Ooof! Just reading that gave me gas.
 
2012-12-04 01:50:27 PM

Sybarite: Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.


True, but I prefer it over all other varieties of lettuce on a tuna sandwich.
 
2012-12-04 02:07:39 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Sybarite: Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.

True, but I prefer it over all other varieties of lettuce on a tuna sandwich.


It's good shredded on a chicken sandwich with mayo. But for salads, a nice spring mix is better.
 
2012-12-04 02:11:58 PM

CygnusDarius: Cauliflower. That is the stuff of nightmares.


Break up a pound and a half of califlower, simmer for 20 min in a tight lidded vessel with 6oz of coconut milk and an handful of cashews and a quarter cup of water. Mash if you have a masher, or give it a couple pulses in your food processor. Spike with salt and curry powder, serve with butter.

An unreasonable substitute for mashed potatoes. And if you consider the trouble of peeling potatoes it's about the same amount of labor.

I'd post a pic but it looks and feels like mashed potatoes, and a pic would be pointless.
 
2012-12-04 02:15:52 PM

RedVentrue: AbbeySomeone: My Mom never said any of that was good subby. You lie.
I made an attempt at being all Paleo last year and one of the recipes was for cocnut oil mayonaise. No, it was absolute sh*t so don't try it at home boys and girls.

Coconut oil is not fit for consumption.


No way. It makes killer muffins. The consistency is just right. Whenever the recipe calls for oil, use coconut oil and the muffins are super moist and fluffy.
 
2012-12-04 02:28:40 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Sybarite: Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.

True, but I prefer it over all other varieties of lettuce on a tuna sandwich.


Same here. What's up with that? It's the only time I'll eat iceberg lettuce.
 
2012-12-04 02:36:52 PM

BigLuca: Bathia_Mapes: Sybarite: Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.

True, but I prefer it over all other varieties of lettuce on a tuna sandwich.

Same here. What's up with that? It's the only time I'll eat iceberg lettuce.


Crunch.
 
2012-12-04 02:47:52 PM

jigger: Whenever the recipe calls for oil, use coconut oil and the muffins are super moist and fluffy.


This. Benefit of the doubt, maybe Red was thinking of Palm Kernel Oil. Or raperapeseed "canola" oil.
 
2012-12-04 03:00:19 PM
Marshmallows!

No? Oh. Okay then.
 
2012-12-04 03:15:58 PM
Why aren't brussel spouts on that list? They're the Devil's balls!!
 
2012-12-04 03:23:20 PM

jigger: RedVentrue: AbbeySomeone: My Mom never said any of that was good subby. You lie.
I made an attempt at being all Paleo last year and one of the recipes was for cocnut oil mayonaise. No, it was absolute sh*t so don't try it at home boys and girls.

Coconut oil is not fit for consumption.

No way. It makes killer muffins. The consistency is just right. Whenever the recipe calls for oil, use coconut oil and the muffins are super moist and fluffy.


Okay, but they taste like bitter, bitter death.
 
2012-12-04 04:12:13 PM

DECMATH: jigger: Whenever the recipe calls for oil, use coconut oil and the muffins are super moist and fluffy.

This. Benefit of the doubt, maybe Red was thinking of Palm Kernel Oil. Or raperapeseed "canola" oil.


You said rape twice.
 
2012-12-04 04:17:09 PM
The failure of the article is this, Coconut Oil contains high sources of MCFA, medium chained fatty acids. The saturated fat that we are told to avoid is LCFA, or long chained fatty acids.

Taste aside, coconut is extremely healthy, using the oil to cook vegetables or meats allows it to be absorbed into the item as long as the heat is not to high. The consumption of MCFA allows your body to quickly turn it into energy without an insulin spike, in other words if you've ever had bread and shortly afterwards you felt tired, you suffered a glycemic condition do to a change in your blood sugar.

Coconut has been shown to make the consumer lean, active, and more hungry and an improved metabolism can lead to a number of minor health benefits.

I highly recommend the usage of unrefined coconut oil in daily diet instead of vegetable oil, olive oil is still good but the benefits provided by coconut beat easily.


As for their comment about lettuce, as others have said its not bad for you in that it does a harmful interaction its just a waste of consumption. It is far better to consume spinach or kale if you want a leafy green. The folic acid is very good for you, both genders, and very important if the desire for having a baby is on the horizon.

Finally I've lived the lifestyle change over the past three years, starting with pure diet then shifting to minor exercise to finally hard iron pushing with a diet based on coconut oil topping in at 3500 cal a day. 6'9" 256 17% body fat
 
2012-12-04 04:20:46 PM

mikemoto: Article fails to mention coconut's other health "benefit", the fact that it can have an often violent laxative effect on some people.


That sounds like a mild food sensitivity. Do coconut beauty products (shampoo, lotion) cause these folks rashes?
 
2012-12-04 04:37:14 PM

FunkOut: But for salads, a nice spring mix is better.


Oh, I agree on that for salads.

However, I don't use shredded iceberg lettuce on tuna sandwiches.
 
2012-12-04 04:39:42 PM

Diogenes: Crunch.


Exactly the red leaf/green leaf lettuces don't have the "crunch".

Strangely enough, the only time I want lettuce on a sandwich is when it's tuna.
 
2012-12-04 04:43:14 PM
Iceberg lettuce - It's crunchy. "Good" lettuces are not crunchy. I'll stick with the crunch, because I've never eaten it for its nutritional values.

// The only difference nutritionally is the Vitamin A level.
 
2012-12-04 04:43:44 PM
There is no such thing as a healthy/unhealthy food.

There are just healthy/unhealthy diets (and when I say diet, I mean the stuff that a person eats in general, not the "diet" that people go on to try to lose weight.).

IE, a diet that consists of only cake is unhealthy, but if I have a small slice of cake every now and then, it's fine. It's all about moderation, don't blame food for issues that lie with the person.
 
2012-12-04 04:46:10 PM

StrangeQ: I don't understand how we can even still be having this discussion. Want to eat healthy? Here's how you do it:

Find a grocery store. This is the place where they sell food not pre-prepared by deepfrying in animal lard. Can usually be identified by the large parking lot out front and buggies arranged by the doors.

Enter the store and turn right. This is the vitamin section. You want to pick a wide variety of items from this area, with as many different colors as you can.

Next head down the back wall. This is the protein section. You should also pick a variety of items from this area, but more sparingly. 1 to 2 or even 1 to 3 ratio with the vitamin section.

Now head to the far left wall. This is the calcium section. You need to pick up a few things here to supplement your selections from the first two, but don't go overboard.

Lastly you'll need to do a quick search for the filler aisle. It will be situated somewhere in between the calcium section and the vitamin section and be distinguishable by containing bags or packages of material looking either like small or medium sized pellets. These items can be combined with water and then added to things you picked up from the protein and vitamin sections to round out a meal.

And that's it. The other aisles in the store contain nothing of value and are only there to confuse you. Do not be fooled by them.


Ha! Turning right puts you in bread in my local, and the back wall puts you in produce. Left wall is still milk. Meat is along the right wall but off a pocket.
 
2012-12-04 04:58:34 PM

StrangeQ: And that's it. The other aisles in the store contain nothing of value and are only there to confuse you. Do not be fooled by them.


Even the beer aisle?
 
2012-12-04 05:23:08 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: StrangeQ: And that's it. The other aisles in the store contain nothing of value and are only there to confuse you. Do not be fooled by them.

Even the beer aisle?


At my grocery store the beer is along the back wall, between the meat and the milk.
 
2012-12-04 05:29:25 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: StrangeQ: And that's it. The other aisles in the store contain nothing of value and are only there to confuse you. Do not be fooled by them.

Even the beer aisle?


I live in Maryland, we don't have beer aisles. :[
 
2012-12-04 05:39:02 PM
My mother's big five were carrots, orange juice, milk,roast beef and potatoes.

Couscous? Coconuts? Smoked mackerel? WTF?
 
2012-12-04 05:42:04 PM

Skr: FTA In regards to lettuce "Alternatively, wilt leaves to make it easier to eat more of them." gah, wilted greens have a horrid texture and consistency in my opinion.


I disagree. Have some collard greens wilted with the fat from smoked fatback. It is goooooood.
 
2012-12-04 06:02:29 PM

Contents Under Pressure: Couscous? Coconuts? Smoked mackerel? WTF?


I never heard my folks tell me those were good for me either. In fact it was rare to have coconut in our household when I was a kid since at least two family members are allergic to it.

For my sister and I the stuff that we were told was good for us were orange juice, milk, green vegetables and meat or poultry, the latter at least once a day.

I doubt my parents knew, let alone had heard of couscous and no one cared for mackerel, smoked or otherwise. We ate fish, but it was mostly trout (that we caught ourselves) & salmon (fresh caught & canned), and of course tuna fish (canned).
 
2012-12-04 06:05:25 PM

Contents Under Pressure: My mother's big five were carrots, orange juice, milk,roast beef and potatoes.

Couscous? Coconuts? Smoked mackerel? WTF?


My mom was all about liver and wheat germ.
 
2012-12-04 07:07:57 PM

StrangeQ: I don't understand how we can even still be having this discussion. Want to eat healthy? Here's how you do it:
(snip).


Sounds like someone is channeling Michael Pollan. Which is good. I have given the "shop the periphery" speech myself.


To others: RE: Iceberg

I had a head from the farm CO-OP this year that actually had flavor. I went back for more. Too bad it only lasted a couple of weeks before they ran out. But if you want some alternatives to iceberg that crunch try Buttercrunch or even Romaine. I even use baby spinach, but not everyone likes raw spinach.
 
2012-12-04 08:36:17 PM

Sybarite: Iceberg is the white trash of lettuce.


It's great for adding texture to foods. It works well in certain recipes.
It just shouldn't be used as the main ingredient in a salad.
 
2012-12-05 03:47:38 AM
Here's a biggie: you lose iron eating spinach. Yep. It has enough oxalate and other absorption inhibitors that you'll lose existing iron as well as fail to absorb any from the spinach. Too bad it's so yummy!
 
2012-12-05 09:48:48 AM

The_Philosopher_King: StrangeQ: I don't understand how we can even still be having this discussion. Want to eat healthy? Here's how you do it:
(snip).

Sounds like someone is channeling Michael Pollan. Which is good. I have given the "shop the periphery" speech myself.


To others: RE: Iceberg

I had a head from the farm CO-OP this year that actually had flavor. I went back for more. Too bad it only lasted a couple of weeks before they ran out. But if you want some alternatives to iceberg that crunch try Buttercrunch or even Romaine. I even use baby spinach, but not everyone likes raw spinach.


I also like Boston Lettuce
 
2012-12-05 12:42:09 PM
Iceburg lettuce is for Tacos.

/tacos
 
2012-12-05 04:36:07 PM

meat0918: Arkanaut: An 80g portion of fresh coconut flesh can count as one of your seven a day, but, very unusually for a fruit, it's astonishingly high in saturated fat.

That's because it's a nut, not a fruit. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME.

It's both actually.


♫ Sometimes you feel like a nut...♫
 
2012-12-05 07:39:28 PM

kroonermanblack: StrangeQ: I don't understand how we can even still be having this discussion. Want to eat healthy? Here's how you do it:

Find a grocery store. This is the place where they sell food not pre-prepared by deepfrying in animal lard. Can usually be identified by the large parking lot out front and buggies arranged by the doors.

Enter the store and turn right. This is the vitamin section. You want to pick a wide variety of items from this area, with as many different colors as you can.

Next head down the back wall. This is the protein section. You should also pick a variety of items from this area, but more sparingly. 1 to 2 or even 1 to 3 ratio with the vitamin section.

Now head to the far left wall. This is the calcium section. You need to pick up a few things here to supplement your selections from the first two, but don't go overboard.

Lastly you'll need to do a quick search for the filler aisle. It will be situated somewhere in between the calcium section and the vitamin section and be distinguishable by containing bags or packages of material looking either like small or medium sized pellets. These items can be combined with water and then added to things you picked up from the protein and vitamin sections to round out a meal.

And that's it. The other aisles in the store contain nothing of value and are only there to confuse you. Do not be fooled by them.

Ha! Turning right puts you in bread in my local, and the back wall puts you in produce. Left wall is still milk. Meat is along the right wall but off a pocket.


Ha! Turning right at my store gets you the pharmacy, wine, and beer. Produce left front corner, protein in back, dairy in back right corner.

It's a great way to express the idea, of course.
 
2012-12-06 12:34:51 PM

The_Philosopher_King: StrangeQ: I don't understand how we can even still be having this discussion. Want to eat healthy? Here's how you do it:
(snip).

Sounds like someone is channeling Michael Pollan. Which is good. I have given the "shop the periphery" speech myself.


To others: RE: Iceberg

I had a head from the farm CO-OP this year that actually had flavor. I went back for more. Too bad it only lasted a couple of weeks before they ran out. But if you want some alternatives to iceberg that crunch try Buttercrunch or even Romaine. I even use baby spinach, but not everyone likes raw spinach.


Why not grow your own? Lettuce is quite easy to grow. Also some varieties last forever - I grew romaine one year, it kept in the fridge until January (picked end of September).
 
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