LasersHurt: There was a good point to be made, but he didn't make it. He just old-man-yells-at-cloud'd it the whole way.
mrlewish: The author has a bit of sour grapes I suspects. So no company should ever hire anybody that does not have experience? That means in 50 years time there would be no employment.
Vegan Meat Popsicle: Is it just me or was that entire "article" basically just a big rant about whippersnappers being stupid because some of them dared to take a chance at doing something bigger than just going to college, slapping on a suit and tie and hitting the pavement with a briefcase full of resumes in a job market where nobody is hiring them outside the Sears bed and bath section anyway?
Mad_Radhu: All this has happened before, and will happen again. So say we all.
basscomm: Have you looked at job listings lately? We're already moving in that direction.
imashark: Because if you work for Sandia, or Bell, or Los Alamos, or Raytheon you get a salary - if you actually do solve something big, surprise, you get... your salary.
Vegan Meat Popsicle: basscomm: Have you looked at job listings lately? We're already moving in that direction.That happens after any recession, it's just unusually pronounced this time because the recession was unusually bad. There are too many unemployed people with experience doing valuable, skilled jobs that got laid off since 2007. Why would you hire some inexperienced, unproven kid right out of school for $45k a year when you can hire a guy who did quality work in the field for 15 years for $50k because he's desperate to get back into the job market after he got laid off in cost-cutting measures at a dying company thanks to the recession?Besides that, the vast majority of the people sitting on unemployment now are unskilled anyway. The simple fact of the matter is that standing at an assembly line repeatedly snapping two parts together isn't something that Americans should be doing anymore. It was fine when we were the only ones with the assembly lines and international shipping was very expensive, but now that you can set that type of factory up in any third world dirt hole and pay some guy a bag of rice a day to do it, ship it home and sell it for a discount, Americans can't expect to still get that kind of job paying $15-$20 an hour.What we need is a concerted effort to train the people who are serious about improving their skillsets and getting a job so that they're prepared for more skilled labor. You can't ONLY work with your hands anymore in America if you want a piece of the pie, you have to also be able to work with your brains. There are plenty of good, blue-collar jobs available, we just need to train blue-collar people up so they can take them instead of just letting them rot on unemployment. Not everybody needs to be an entrepreneur or work behind a desk or in a server room, but you can't get a good job anymore ONLY because you have muscle, rough hands and a work ethic. Millions upon millions of other people in the world have those same qualifications and are wil ...
Jim_Callahan: And your name is on patents and papers that mean that from now on, you get to pick your jobs instead of the other way around. Which, frankly, is much more beneficial in the long term than getting to effectively embezzle some startup money once (because you don't usually get a second chance there). Also, Los Alamos is mostly academic, it tends to run on grants and stipends, not salary. You might add Intel to that list, too, once you've done a few years with them you can pick your jobs.
imashark: FTFA: "In my dreams I imagine them leaving the Valley and going off to accomplish something meaningful. Using those brains to do medical research, develop new drugs or eradicate poverty. I imagine them teaching in public schools, providing health care to poor kids. Joining Tesla or SpaceX. Pushing AI a few steps forward. Solving big problems, the kind that can't get solved in three days on a StartupBus.They might not get rich, but at least they'd be doing something useful."
balial: Mad_Radhu: All this has happened before, and will happen again. So say we all.I love it... "OMG, the valley used to do something great and today it's all these shiatty startups!". Mental blank over the whole .com bubble much?/what's phase 2?
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: balial: Mad_Radhu: All this has happened before, and will happen again. So say we all.I love it... "OMG, the valley used to do something great and today it's all these shiatty startups!". Mental blank over the whole .com bubble much?/what's phase 2?It never truly ended. It's a lot of the same players from before.
Jim_Callahan: No, he's saying venture capitalists shouldn't give money to someone with no industry or professional experience to create an entirely new company from scratch, which is an entirely different thing. Because a tech company is not a restaurant, you're not going to be able to stay afloat while you figure out what you're doing.Basically, people shouldn't trust you with their money unless there is some sort of indication that you know what to do with it.
Here's some stunning, Earth-shattering news: You know all those hundreds of incredibly stupid startups that have been raising seed money in Silicon Valley despite the fact that the people running those startups have no experience doing anything, ever, and have no idea at all how to generate revenue (let alone profit) with their lousy ideas, because, in fact, there is no way to make money with their lousy ideas, because in fact their ideas are lousy?
ProfessorOhki: , we call 'em bloggers.
Tenatra: ProfessorOhki: , we call 'em bloggers.I haven't learned anything about Kickstarter but ...Is there any fact checking done on the campaigns? or Could one arbitrarily boost up their bio when in reality he/she doesn't have the means or experience to create the project the money is being raised for?
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