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2012-12-04 08:21:01 AM  

MrHappyRotter: sexorcisst: MrHappyRotter: Good lord, some of you need to clean the centipedes out of your vaginas. She recanted. She admitted she lied. She did the right thing. No harm, no foul. So calm the fake out rage down to about a 4 or 5,

Does this happen all the time where you come from or something? That woman's actions were ludicrous.

Doing the right thing and recanting on her rape allegations? Yeah, stuff like that happens all the time around here. People are imperfect and occasionally do things they shouldn't or didn't think were a big deal, but upon retrospection make an attempt to rectify the situation.


You don't think it's because these things happen all the time, that people are quick to feel frustrated and enraged?
 
2012-12-04 08:21:03 AM  

Pocket Ninja: A deliberately false claim of rape should result in a jail sentence for the accuser exactly equivalent to what the accused would have potentially served.


That sounds just and our justice system doesn't work that way.
 
2012-12-04 08:21:15 AM  
She ought to be placed on the sex offender registry for this.

Think about it.
 
2012-12-04 08:22:09 AM  

Revek: Pocket Ninja: A deliberately false claim of rape should result in a jail sentence for the accuser exactly equivalent to what the accused would have potentially served.

That sounds just and our justice system doesn't work that way.


That's because it's the "adversarial system" now, where the best arguer wins. I wish I was kidding.
 
2012-12-04 08:22:29 AM  

aagrajag: I disagree; I think that the vast majority women would not knowingly make a false accusation of rape, but truly cannot understanding that the accusation alone is so powerful that it really isn't something to joke about. I think most women would be surprised to discover so.


I refuse to believe that "most women" would be such blithering idiots.

Any adult in the US who has an IQ above 70 knows a rape accusation is a nuclear option, second only to child molestation.

/I'm sure people joke about making that accusation, too.
 
2012-12-04 08:24:02 AM  

doczoidberg: She ought to be placed on the sex offender registry for this.

Think about it.


Hey, just because you've admitted to making false accusations of rape doesn't mean you can't be raped.

The above sentence is true, but maybe one shouldn't cry wolf.
 
2012-12-04 08:24:35 AM  

aagrajag: That's about as funny as joking about a bomb at an airport. But, it does clearly illustrate that many women have no idea just how much of a nuclear weapon that is.


Yep, pretty much ended the relationship then and there although I was very careful in how I extricated myself.
 
2012-12-04 08:25:11 AM  
Jus like ma ol'pappy used to say to me:

"He also told me one thing, 'If you do (have premarital sex), just remember, consensual sex can turn into rape in an awful hurry,' " Rivard said. "Because all of a sudden a young lady gets pregnant thinks the sex is bad and the parents are is madder than a wet hen and she's not going to say, 'Oh, yeah, I was part of the program.' All that she has to say or the parents have to say is it was rape because she's underagesatisfied. And he just said, 'Remember, Roger, if you go down that road, some girls,' he said, 'they rape so easy.'

inorite?
 
2012-12-04 08:25:45 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: aagrajag: That's about as funny as joking about a bomb at an airport. But, it does clearly illustrate that many women have no idea just how much of a nuclear weapon that is.

Yep, pretty much ended the relationship then and there although I was very careful in how I extricated myself.


The amusing thing is, even if you believed her - what would you do? Call the cops?

"My girlfriend threatened to accuse me of rape."

Call a lawyer? What?
 
2012-12-04 08:26:25 AM  

ph0rk: aagrajag: I disagree; I think that the vast majority women would not knowingly make a false accusation of rape, but truly cannot understanding that the accusation alone is so powerful that it really isn't something to joke about. I think most women would be surprised to discover so.

I refuse to believe that "most women" would be such blithering idiots.

Any adult in the US who has an IQ above 70 knows a rape accusation is a nuclear option, second only to child molestation.

/I'm sure people joke about making that accusation, too.


When it's a weapon that can never be pointed at you, you may fail to realise how dangerous it is.

However if a woman even joked about that to me, I would immediately establish an alibi, then disappear from that woman's life. That's really the only prudent course.
 
2012-12-04 08:26:56 AM  

ph0rk: aagrajag: I disagree; I think that the vast majority women would not knowingly make a false accusation of rape, but truly cannot understanding that the accusation alone is so powerful that it really isn't something to joke about. I think most women would be surprised to discover so.

I refuse to believe that "most women" would be such blithering idiots.

Any adult in the US who has an IQ above 70 knows a rape accusation is a nuclear option, second only to child molestation.

/I'm sure people joke about making that accusation, too.


Yeah, aagrajag has a wildly optimistic view of people as a whole.

Most folks, male or female, knowing they have a death ray that leaves no evidence of their involvement, would eventually rationalize using it on an enemy. When an adult goes to the police to falsely accuse someone of a felony, I would happily wager that in the majority of cases, it's not because of a lack of understanding of the consequences, but rather a sincere belief that there are no meaningful consequences for them and, possibly, a lack of understanding that filing a false complaint is, itself, a crime.
 
2012-12-04 08:26:57 AM  

aagrajag: However if a woman even joked about that to me, I would immediately establish an alibi, then disappear from that woman's life. That's really the only prudent course.


An alibi for what? If you've already had sex, you don't have one.
 
2012-12-04 08:27:01 AM  
If that is true, then every Farker on this thread is therapist.
 
2012-12-04 08:28:21 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Exception Collection: AverageAmericanGuy: A key that opens every lock is a master key.

A lock that opens to every key is a shiatty lock.

That's not rape-culture. That's science.

And your joke, right there, *is* rape culture.

I've seen the light. I'll never use a key again.


As you shouldn't, inserting a key into a lock is a penetrative act, and symbolic of the patriarchy, you really should replace everything with keyless entry, or just leave things unlocked, if you leave something unlocked it is in no way your fault that your shiat gets stolen, you weren't asking for it. But either way, never violate a lock with a key again.
 
2012-12-04 08:28:31 AM  

doglover: Bathia_Mapes: Nothing remotely amusing about this, submitter. Not only does this make it more difficult for women who have been sexually assaulted, but she false accused an innocent man of a crime that could have very well ruined his life had she not admitted lying.

Of all the false rapes, this one's the funniest. Not like that stripper in the Duke case. That was just money.


No, it's still Roethlisberger. 'Cuz we all still call him Rapey Ben, despite the cases being dropped.
 
2012-12-04 08:29:06 AM  

ph0rk: aagrajag: However if a woman even joked about that to me, I would immediately establish an alibi, then disappear from that woman's life. That's really the only prudent course.

An alibi for what? If you've already had sex, you don't have one.


The closest thing would be to quickly get a recording of her making that joke.

I am again thankful to be married to a delightfully sane woman.
 
2012-12-04 08:29:18 AM  
As foretold by Dave Chappelle:

Vid Link
 
2012-12-04 08:31:43 AM  

freewill: While I wasn't there and can't attest to the situation, there are a number of venues that are known to have "those types" of Halloween parties. They're wild and that kind of behavior is sort of expected by everybody going in, and if the bar policed it, the people who are there wouldn't want to be there anymore.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call that rape culture as much as as a promiscuity culture, although I don't mean to in any way downplay how offensive it may have been to you.


Yeah, it was one of "those" types of bars. It caught me off guard because it was *also* a night when an extremely consent-aware clientele (kink & BDSM community) visits, and all my friends are part of that particular group.
 
2012-12-04 08:37:24 AM  

Exception Collection: namatad: Lorelle: Bathia_Mapes: Nothing remotely amusing about this, submitter. Not only does this make it more difficult for women who have been sexually assaulted, but she false accused an innocent man of a crime that could have very well ruined his life had she not admitted lying.

This. I hate women who do this sort of thing.

should be a felony
and should have a pretty big penalty attached to it ...

on the other hand, if the penalty is TOO large, then the women who file false reports might be LESS likely to admit they lied in the first place ....

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
maybe death penalty ....
that would put the FEAR of filing a false rape charge in the first place

sigh
at least the cops did their jobs and charged her

The problem is proving a false report as opposed to one you can't prove. Rape culture still exists, and women are still afraid to acknowledge when they've been raped for fear that they won't be believed.


Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches (about 25% according to The Innocense Project) about the only rape culture that really exists is women lying about it. Women have only themselves to blame if nobody believes them.

The accusor in a rape allegation should have to submit to a polygraph test.

If the accusor is lying should have to pay all the accused legal costs, and on air and youtube public apology and pay back the tax payers for any investication costs.

If proof other than a polygraph can be found that the accusor is lying should be subject to the same prison sentence the accused would have received if convicted.

Better that a guility man go free than an innocent one go to jail.
 
2012-12-04 08:40:38 AM  
Time to start doing background checks I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfnZMmOYws
 
2012-12-04 08:41:21 AM  

hasty ambush: Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches


fark off
 
2012-12-04 08:42:41 AM  

ranak: Time to start doing background checks I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfnZMmOYws


http://www.mybackgroundcheck.com/
 
2012-12-04 08:43:13 AM  

hasty ambush: Exception Collection: namatad: Lorelle: Bathia_Mapes: Nothing remotely amusing about this, submitter. Not only does this make it more difficult for women who have been sexually assaulted, but she false accused an innocent man of a crime that could have very well ruined his life had she not admitted lying.

This. I hate women who do this sort of thing.

should be a felony
and should have a pretty big penalty attached to it ...

on the other hand, if the penalty is TOO large, then the women who file false reports might be LESS likely to admit they lied in the first place ....

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
maybe death penalty ....
that would put the FEAR of filing a false rape charge in the first place

sigh
at least the cops did their jobs and charged her

The problem is proving a false report as opposed to one you can't prove. Rape culture still exists, and women are still afraid to acknowledge when they've been raped for fear that they won't be believed.

Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches (about 25% according to The Innocense Project) about the only rape culture that really exists is women lying about it. Women have only themselves to blame if nobody believes them.

The accusor in a rape allegation should have to submit to a polygraph test.

If the accusor is lying should have to pay all the accused legal costs, and on air and youtube public apology and pay back the tax payers for any investication costs.

If proof other than a polygraph can be found that the accusor is lying should be subject to the same prison sentence the accused would have received if convicted.

Better that a guility man go free than an innocent one go to jail.


Well, apparently there is an advocate for Saudi-style bullshiat.

A failed polygraph test should be cause enough for a public apology? And I'm more or less on your side.

Prosecute a suspected false claim as any other: beyond a reasonable doubt. A notoriously inaccurate polygraph doesn't even come close.

And yes: a conviction should carry the same penalties as those that would have been levied upon the accused man.
 
2012-12-04 08:43:21 AM  

ranak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfnZMmOYws


Ah, so it *was* "Amazon Women on the Moon" I was thinking of earlier. Thanks for posting that!
 
2012-12-04 08:44:17 AM  

Pocket Ninja: A deliberately false claim of rape should result in a jail sentence for the accuser exactly equivalent to what the accused would have potentially served.


So much THIS.
 
2012-12-04 08:45:32 AM  

hasty ambush: Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches (about 25% according to The Innocense Project) about the only rape culture that really exists is women lying about it. Women have only themselves to blame if nobody believes them.


i306.photobucket.com

Actually, the home office of the UK puts the number at about 3%. United States numbers vary from 2-8% of rape claims.
 
2012-12-04 08:49:04 AM  

BronyMedic: hasty ambush: Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches (about 25% according to The Innocense Project) about the only rape culture that really exists is women lying about it. Women have only themselves to blame if nobody believes them.



Actually, the home office of the UK puts the number at about 3%. United States numbers vary from 2-8% of rape claims.


You dont have to counter intentionally inflated high numbers with intentionally deflated low numbers.
 
2012-12-04 08:49:20 AM  
I hope she is treated like every accused rapist is by our legal system.
 
2012-12-04 08:49:23 AM  

namatad: The worst part is the damage this does to actual rape victims.


No, the worst part is the damage this does to actual innocent people who have been incarcerated for years or even decades. They are very directly harmed by being falsely accused and convicted of crimes they didn't commit.

I'm quite sick of feminists who take the position that how it 'harms women' is always the biggest problem. What about the very real men who've lost years of their lives, and become rape victims in prison themselves, because of this? They are the 'worst part' of false allegations.

Serious Black: At worst, she makes all women look like they want the sex every single time and just decide afterward that they didn't want it after all.


Really? That's 'at worst'? Not 'at worst, her accusation results in an innocent man being imprisoned for decades and subject to violence and rape himself.'?

Because fark him, he's a man right? So who gives a shiat what happens to him.

Exception Collection: The thing about this is, murder just destroys them once. Rape destroys them (for a while at least) every time a man touches them - every time they are alone - every time they remember what happened.


What a great message to send to someone who's been raped. Bombard them constantly with the message that they are forever damaged goods who will either never heal, or that it will take an extremely long time, that they are destroyed repeatedly, that they will feel like victims and not feel safe when they're alone, or when a man they actually like touches them. Make sure they know that they have to be scared, damaged, scarred victims. That's an awesome way to help people.

Keep telling them that it's worse than murder. That it would be better if they were dead. That will really help a person heal and move on with their life.

The top reason why being raped isn't as bad as being murdered is that someone who was raped has their life to go on living. If you're dead, there is absolutely zero chance you will recover from that and live a happy, fulfilling life.
 
2012-12-04 08:50:18 AM  
Someone asked for rape jokes?
8 out of 9 people enjoy gang rape
Why is rape impossible? A woman can run faster with her skirt up than a man can with his pants down....

/here all week
//try the veal
///3 slashie rule
 
2012-12-04 08:51:41 AM  
 
2012-12-04 08:52:43 AM  
WTF is "rape culture" supposed to be anyway? Is there a community that actively promotes rape as such? Is there a significant body of literature that encourages it? Is there art or music built up around it? Are there rape bars? Do people wear rape clothing or dress according to rape fashoin? Are social relations built around rape? I don't even know what "rape culture" would be if it existed. Other than a few rap or RnB songs, I can't think of anything that would qualify as such a thing. And before someone says "b-b-b-but Todd Akin" or something stupid, remember that so-called conservatives in the US tend to favor harsh penalties for convicted rapists. I've met a lot of people who like sex, but nary a one who likes rape.
 
2012-12-04 08:58:03 AM  
Btw, I'm very anti-rape.....

/gave the wife horrible sexy-time last night....
//she asked "Who do you think your going to please with THAT?"
///Me!!!!
 
2012-12-04 09:00:29 AM  

BronyMedic: hasty ambush: Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches (about 25% according to The Innocense Project) about the only rape culture that really exists is women lying about it. Women have only themselves to blame if nobody believes them.

Actually, the home office of the UK puts the number at about 3%. United States numbers vary from 2-8% of rape claims.


Nobody knows, or will ever know, how high that number is. The best we can ever do is establish a lower bound by considering the number of cases in which the accuser's claims are definitively proven to be false -which is pretty rare. Both of you please stop quoting meaningless numbers
 
2012-12-04 09:01:24 AM  

namatad: The worst part is the damage this does to actual rape victims. At some point, more and more rapists start to use the story. "NOW, she is just trying to get me in trouble.", "Not my fault that she ...."


It probably wouldn't work if it weren't so often true.

\shame about that
 
2012-12-04 09:02:25 AM  

BronyMedic: ChuDogg:
You dont have to counter intentionally inflated high numbers with intentionally deflated low numbers.



Finally, myths about high rates of false reports are perpetuated by media stories that provide excessive coverage of highly sensationalized cases. News agencies make little effort to reach out to the academic community to include professional opinions about the validity of the majority of rape reports. Instead, the general public is bombarded with stories about "gold-digging" women who falsely accuse athletes or prominent public figures. Very rarely do we hear the countless true stories of women and children who are abused and manipulated by men they know and trust.


Wikipedia.

Your numbers are on the low end of studies being done. His numbers were on the higher end of the spectrum.

The average seems to be around 8-20%.

Not sure what your opinion quote is about. You could have just stated your own opinion.
 
2012-12-04 09:02:34 AM  
Poor dude, first the news story was he was a rapist, now the story is "Nope, not a rapist. Just a lousy lay." That aint gonna help his dating future any.
 
2012-12-04 09:02:58 AM  
Isn't a "rape culture" what's left in the petri dish when one is finished?
 
2012-12-04 09:04:08 AM  
BronyMedic:
[Citation Needed]

Worth reading 

/Only applies to the UK, though
 
2012-12-04 09:04:44 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Heh. I think my favorite of these stories was the one from Arizona from a few years back. Young woman filed a rape claim, no information on her attacker, police asked around and people told them she was a huge party girl and drama queen and they threatened her with everything under the sun till she recanted then filed for the same filing a false police report charge which she plead guilty to.

Couple years later, pretty much by absolute accident, they managed to catch a serial rapist. Turns out he took pictures of all his victims as he was torturing them. In the process of tracking down the identity of all the victims so they could press as many charges as they could, guess whose pictures were in there?


Sometimes when you cry wolf, there actually is a wolf, but everyone has gotten tired of listening to your lying ass and no one comes running. The moral of the story was to be less of a douchebag, because sometimes you'll need people to believe you.
 
2012-12-04 09:06:28 AM  

ChuDogg: The average seems to be around 8-20%.


It's not hard to post a link to your statistics. Even the Wikipedia Article in question states that the FBI's uniform crime statistics have consistantly put the average of false reports at 8%.

ChuDogg: Not sure what your opinion quote is about. You could have just stated your own opinion


Maybe if you actually clicked the link and read where it was quoted from, you'd realize it wasn't just my opinion.
 
2012-12-04 09:06:45 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Exception Collection: We have a culture that supports rape jokes

Really? I can't remember the last time I heard a good rape joke. Care to share one?


i.ytimg.com
/Just one scene of many good rape jokes throughout that movie...
//The best may be "people stampeded and cattle raped!"...

1.bp.blogspot.com
scrapetv.com
etc., etc...

Consult any random Fark thread for several hundred more good examples...
 
2012-12-04 09:07:15 AM  

BronyMedic: ChuDogg:
You dont have to counter intentionally inflated high numbers with intentionally deflated low numbers.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

Finally, myths about high rates of false reports are perpetuated by media stories that provide excessive coverage of highly sensationalized cases. News agencies make little effort to reach out to the academic community to include professional opinions about the validity of the majority of rape reports. Instead, the general public is bombarded with stories about "gold-digging" women who falsely accuse athletes or prominent public figures. Very rarely do we hear the countless true stories of women and children who are abused and manipulated by men they know and trust.



From the study cited by the article you linked (that I had to dig to find); emphasis mine:

Rather, investigators and prosecutors must base all final judgments of a sexual assault report on the findings from a thorough, evidence-based investigation. The determination that a report is false can then only be when there is sufficient evidence to establish that the sexual assault did not happen (was not completed or attempted.) This does not mean that the investigation failed to prove that the sexual assault happened- in that case the investigation would simply be inconclusive or unsubstantiated.

Do you understand what you're saying? This very article we are discussing would not be a "false report" without her confession, even though it was false.

The 2-8 percent so oft cited is of cases in which they could prove, through confession or evidence, that the woman was lying. Citing that number as the only reports in which the man was innocent is literally saying that if the woman says rape, and there is zero evidence, that the man is still guilty.

More fearmongering, in other words.
 
2012-12-04 09:07:32 AM  
She really deserves to be raped.
 
2012-12-04 09:08:30 AM  

BronyMedic: One in five women, and one in 71 men will be raped in their lifetime.


Without accepting either number, if you accept the first stat, then there is clearly something flawed with the second, or vice-versa.
 
2012-12-04 09:09:51 AM  
Can someone explain "rape culture" to me?

Is it something I have to be careful not to offend, like Islam?
 
2012-12-04 09:09:59 AM  

sudo give me more cowbell: BronyMedic: hasty ambush: Given the high rate of false rape reports by the biatches (about 25% according to The Innocense Project) about the only rape culture that really exists is women lying about it. Women have only themselves to blame if nobody believes them.

Actually, the home office of the UK puts the number at about 3%. United States numbers vary from 2-8% of rape claims.

Nobody knows, or will ever know, how high that number is. The best we can ever do is establish a lower bound by considering the number of cases in which the accuser's claims are definitively proven to be false -which is pretty rare. Both of you please stop quoting meaningless numbers


Well unless a case was explicitly proven in a court of law, and the false accuser was convicted of criminal charges, then it is obvious all other accusations were 100% true. Even in the former, many recantations were actually true but the accuser felt pressured and threatened to recant, so many of those numbers will need to be arbitrarily lowered to reflect this reality. Because a false accusation never results in the accuser just dropping her story and a prosecutor not having enough evidence to convict.

According to my extensive studies on this subject i have found the number of actual false accusations to be exactly zero. none. It doesn't happen outside internet message boards. We can stop pretending to even have trials anymore as they dont provide anything of value besides dragging the victims through the mud again and be verbally raped by old white males in court
 
2012-12-04 09:10:38 AM  

Serious Black: I was referring to people like Todd Akin who think there are different categories of rape.


A cursory review of any standard legal text would indicate that position is in fact correct.
 
2012-12-04 09:10:39 AM  

BronyMedic: It's not hard to post a link to your statistics. Even the Wikipedia Article in question states that the FBI's uniform crime statistics have consistantly put the average of false reports at 8%.


Is that all crimes or just rape? If it's just rape, how does it compare with the rate of false reporting for other crimes?
 
2012-12-04 09:12:08 AM  

BronyMedic: ChuDogg: The average seems to be around 8-20%.

It's not hard to post a link to your statistics. Even the Wikipedia Article in question states that the FBI's uniform crime statistics have consistantly put the average of false reports at 8%.

ChuDogg: Not sure what your opinion quote is about. You could have just stated your own opinion

Maybe if you actually clicked the link and read where it was quoted from, you'd realize it wasn't just my opinion.


Im on my phone so if you want to discuss stuff on the internet you'll just have to deal with people who dont post or click links.

So you're in agreement the FBI's rate was exactly what i said? I said abu
 
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