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2012-12-04 01:10:45 AM

I Browse: I have no evidence, I wasn't there. Like most of us when we heard this story, I can only imagine myself in the same scenario and wonder what I would do (both as Zimmerman and Martin). If I were Zimmerman...I would've felt I'd done my civic duty once I placed the call to 911.


You and me, both. Total agreement.

I Browse: I can't imagine any scenario where I would've gotten out of my car in the first place.


Still. 100% with you.

I Browse: If I were Martin...I probably would've just run. And although I would've been apprehensive about leading a stranger to my dad's gf's home, I'd rather be safe inside than dealing with a stranger outside.


Amen.

Well, looks like I wouldn't have shot you, and you wouldn't have punched me.

I also wouldn't have eaten your face off because I was high on bath salts, because I don't do them.

I wouldn't have shot a famous ex-NFL star who was getting upset and vocal about how the war was BS and pretended he was a hero in a cover up, because I'm not in the military or a totally corrupt piece of shiat in the government conspiring with other totally corrupt pieces of shiat in the government.

People do stupid shiat.
 
2012-12-04 01:11:06 AM

I Browse: s2s2s2:

And a quick listen to the 911 recordings will show that GZ's response was "OK". What evidence do you have that he continued to pursue Trayvon?


I have no evidence, I wasn't there. Like most of us when we heard this story, I can only imagine myself in the same scenario and wonder what I would do (both as Zimmerman and Martin). If I were Zimmerman...I would've felt I'd done my civic duty once I placed the call to 911. I would trust the police to handle it from there. I can't imagine any scenario where I would've gotten out of my car in the first place. So if the dispatcher advised me not to pursue, I would've told them I have no intention of pursuing and meant it.

If I were Martin...I probably would've just run. And although I would've been apprehensive about leading a stranger to my dad's gf's home, I'd rather be safe inside than dealing with a stranger outside.


Problem is, Zimmerman didn't believe that the police could do their duty, as his "These *expletive*s always get away" remark shows.
 
2012-12-04 01:11:32 AM

SweetDickens: Ah...yes the bromance with Trayvon continues.....


Say, anybody see how the LIVING manning is doing????
What ??? No outrage???? Oh that's right he ain't no negro.......


Why don't you just come out and say what really bothers you about all this
 
2012-12-04 01:11:50 AM
It will heal. Let's compare it to photos after he's had medical treatment. Nothing to see here. Proves nothing. He should toughen up. He had it coming.

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-04 01:12:46 AM

s2s2s2: mittromneysdog: make personal

I'm sorry I used your logic in a response to you. I was not saying you are incapable of learning what the tapes show, just that you haven't yet.


Comedy gold. He uses the fact that I argue a relevant issue--Zimmerman's willingness to confront--to justify a personal attack on me! You do understand that we're arguing about Zimmerman, that Zimmernan's state of mind is relevant to what we're arguing about, and that my purported willingness to rely on what uninformed strangers say is irrelevant to that discussion, right?

Nothing I say will ever be enough to make a fact out of the claim that Zimmerman pursued after it was suggested it was unnecessary for him to do so.

"We don't need you to do that." -Dispatcher

"Ok" -Zimmerman


But the fact of your poor moral character does call into question the veracity of your implicit claim that you've sufficiently evaluated the evidence to know whether or not there is evidence for it.

I'll grant, I haven't personally reviewed every document in the case file. But I do know that:

1) the prosecutor has alleged that Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon after the dispatcher advised him not to,

2) that the ethics of her profession require her to have a good faith basis for making such an allegation, and

3) that the only evidence to the contrary comes from Zimmerman, who has demonstrated a troubled relationship with the truth.

So not only have you turned personal what could have been a cool discussion about facts, but the substance of your personal attack, that I've based this on things other people said who haven't researched the case, is inaccurate. Rather, I've based this on things the prosecution itself has alleged, which are not contradicted by credible evidence, and which I have every reason to believe will be proved at trial. 

So not only are you a bad person, but you're a stupid and wrong person too.
 
2012-12-04 01:13:09 AM

BronyMedic: So if I have a history of roughing people up who smarted off to me as a security guard to the point where I was fired from that position, had a history of self-admittedly patrolling my gated community with my concealed weapon, and if I had been arrested for assault before, if I end up shooting someone I was following on foot, with no witnesses to corroborate any story I tell, that wouldn't' be relevant to my mentality at the time of the shooting?


This story is well known enough that you've just got to be willfully lying. Witnesses caught the tail end of the confrontation.

Again, you're proving my argument about all you have is a character argument. That alone isn't going to win a case.

BronyMedic: You, on the other hand, have stated in this very thread "The only reason people don't believe he's not guilty is because they're social justice white knights who think because he shot a black kid, he's guilty".


So? It's true.

BronyMedic: Civilly, however, it's another matter. It all depends on whether they accept the defense of Stand your ground, or not whether that avenue can be pursued.


When you're pinned, SYG doesn't come into play.
 
2012-12-04 01:13:29 AM

Frank N Stein: ohokyeah: Stalking is hostile behavior.

Just because you call it stalking doesn't mean that it falls within the legal definition of stalking. Just to let you know.


Except that he disobeyed police in order to follow the guy.
 
2012-12-04 01:14:19 AM
Turn out the little shiat stain was good at something after all.

Too bad "breaking noses" isn't a respectable career and will get you shot. Well, not too bad always, in this case it is hilarious.
 
2012-12-04 01:14:25 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Keizer_Ghidorah: I see the "Trayvon was a n*gger thug who deserved to be executed" crowd is out and about, and they're just as farktarded as ever.

[motores.com.py image 535x356]

I'm the one trolling? I recall a certain 9beers stating many, many times that Trayvon was an evil Negro demon that was seconds away from attacking and looting every house on that street and we should thank the Lord that the avenging knight Zimmerman was there to destroy the foul child of Satan before he could do his vicious deeds. And many of the people in here going "ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST ZIMMERMAN IS A REVERSE RACIST!" and "LOL WORSHIPING YOUR DEAD BLACK HERO, LIBTARDS!" were agreeing with him. And they're certainly still going at it right now.


Come on man, 9beers hasn't posted in months, and no one in here is coming close to saying "n*gger thugs deserved to be executed." Regardless of which side you're on, that's not helping.
 
2012-12-04 01:15:23 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Keizer_Ghidorah: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Keizer_Ghidorah: I see the "Trayvon was a n*gger thug who deserved to be executed" crowd is out and about, and they're just as farktarded as ever.

[motores.com.py image 535x356]

I'm the one trolling? I recall a certain 9beers stating many, many times that Trayvon was an evil Negro demon that was seconds away from attacking and looting every house on that street and we should thank the Lord that the avenging knight Zimmerman was there to destroy the foul child of Satan before he could do his vicious deeds. And many of the people in here going "ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST ZIMMERMAN IS A REVERSE RACIST!" and "LOL WORSHIPING YOUR DEAD BLACK HERO, LIBTARDS!" were agreeing with him. And they're certainly still going at it right now.

Come on man, 9beers hasn't posted in months, and no one in here is coming close to saying "n*gger thugs deserved to be executed." Regardless of which side you're on, that's not helping.


Well, looks like I spoke to soon
 
2012-12-04 01:16:15 AM

Karma Curmudgeon: Cool story, bro. How many stitches did Zimmerman need?


If only that was relevant to the moment in which he was sustaining repeated injuries, with no end in sight.
Perhaps Trayvon had told him?

"I'm just gonna scuff you up, and break your nose, ok? Let's not let this get out of hand. I'm a promising young athlete and I think we'd all like to see me lead the Canes back to prominence, we cool?"
 
2012-12-04 01:16:31 AM

Peter von Nostrand: edmo: Trayvon Martin still dead.

Totally different with him, he didn't have the right to defend himself. Plus he had Skittles and once tweeted about Marijuana


Well he had the right to KILL Zimmerman, yes, as a reasonable person would believe Martin was in danger when accosted on the street by a stranger with a gun.

Of course, Martin would not need to wait for Zimmerman to kill him to establish that Martin's life was in danger. That would be absurd to wait for it to be proven after it'd already happened. But in the end we DID establish that Zimmerman posed a threat to Martin's life, didn't we? Thus Martin was within his rights to curb-stomp this gun approaching him with a gun.

But by just punching Zimmerman, he established Zimmerman's right to defend himself with a gun...

I don't like Stand Yet Ground's logic. It creates an absurd situation where everyone can kill everyone, because anyone else COULD kill them... because, well, the law even says that the other person may legally kill you, so you can legally kill them. My head hurts.
 
2012-12-04 01:16:34 AM

Somacandra: God-is-a-Taco: The tomato is a vegetable that has many uses in various recipes, most notably Italian.

The tomato is a goddamn FRUIT, motherfarker. Its a modified ovary. If it makes seeds, its a fruit.

/just trying to raise the thread pressure here


Intelligence is knowing the tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad.
 
2012-12-04 01:17:51 AM

Somacandra: s2s2s2: Not to mention there is absolutely ZERO evidence that Zimmerman continued pursuit after the dispatcher's admonition.

There may be something to that---given that there was no DNA foreign to Martin positively identified on his body or clothing. It doesn't really help Mr. Zimmerman's story, though.


So your saying that Travyon's plan was to jerk off all over George after he smashed his head in?
I can see know why some Farkers are outragedes that George shot him.

/no slow trollin' here
 
2012-12-04 01:18:27 AM

Abacus9: Except that he disobeyed police in order to follow the guy.


Here's some advice.

These are not cops:

upload.wikimedia.org
www.smokeybear.com
 
2012-12-04 01:18:32 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Keizer_Ghidorah: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Keizer_Ghidorah: I see the "Trayvon was a n*gger thug who deserved to be executed" crowd is out and about, and they're just as farktarded as ever.

[motores.com.py image 535x356]

I'm the one trolling? I recall a certain 9beers stating many, many times that Trayvon was an evil Negro demon that was seconds away from attacking and looting every house on that street and we should thank the Lord that the avenging knight Zimmerman was there to destroy the foul child of Satan before he could do his vicious deeds. And many of the people in here going "ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST ZIMMERMAN IS A REVERSE RACIST!" and "LOL WORSHIPING YOUR DEAD BLACK HERO, LIBTARDS!" were agreeing with him. And they're certainly still going at it right now.

Come on man, 9beers hasn't posted in months, and no one in here is coming close to saying "n*gger thugs deserved to be executed." Regardless of which side you're on, that's not helping.

Well, looks like I spoke to soon


Look through the posts and tell me there aren't people either saying Trayvon deserved to die, going off about racists and liberals, or both at the same time.
 
2012-12-04 01:18:45 AM
There is no way this will ever get a "fair" trial. If he walks, the supporters of Mr. Martin are going to scream injustice. If he's found guilty (which I doubt he will) the supporters of Zimmerman are going to scream the same. I see it probably a hung jury.
 
2012-12-04 01:19:38 AM

Mrbogey: Stop trying to impress with medical knowledge. That's not the the issue. You're arguing that post hoc knowledge should have been known during and prior. Zimmerman doesn't have to wait till his injuries are severe. The severity of Zimmerman's injuries post fight have absolutely dick to do with the legality of his response.

As it stands, his injuries are in line with the expected injuries of someone pinned down and getting struck in the face. To which it's legal in all 50 states to use lethal force in defense.


You were the one that wanted to pedantically argue what a "Distracting Injury" was, when I pointed out the photo of Zimmerman was nothing but an appeal to emotion. That was not an argument of "medical knowledge", that was an argument about your pedantry. As for "medical knowledge", you were the one that insinuated that a bag of ice can magically fix a swollen, broken nose in a space of less than two hours.

The entire argument is not that, if Zimmerman was being attacked, it wasn't a justified use of force. The entire argument is that Zimmerman's story is not corroborated by the evidence at hand. And if Zimmerman initiated the conflict himself by following or provoking Martin, then the claim of self defense does not apply, as it was Assault at that point.

Please stop putting words in my mouth. It makes you look like an idiot.

Mrbogey: No, it means everything with the defense is kosher. That's what defenses do. They act as PR agents as well as legal debaters in the court. Same as how Crumb and family released a pic of Trayvon from 5 years ago to try and paint the picture of a sweet mellow boy who never harmed anyone.


So releasing a photo intentionally meant to have Zimmerman's injuries appear worse than they actually were, and making a public appeal to emotion isn't a desperation move?

Mrbogey: So he injured himself directly before the fight? Because the eyewitnesses certainly didn't see him flailing his head into things afterwards.


You're either being willfully disingenuous, or you're someone with a learning disability that makes them unable to read. All it means is SOMETHING occurred. It doesn't illustrate the circumstances around how and why it occurred. Yet you're latching onto this as further proof of his story, when in reality it's neither proof of disproof.

Mrbogey: Uh huh... George tripped and Trayvon, being a good citizen, was helping him up. Uh huh.


people.virginia.edu

Remember what I said about putting words in my mouth, and you looking like an idiot?

It means that an altercation occurred. It doesn't illustrate the reasons behind it, or the actions during it any more than anything else. The only thing that would do that would be an actual eyewitness, or corroborating physical evidence. There is none of the first, and the second does not support his original story.

Mrbogey: Yes.. indeed. That's all you had to say. All the "buts" in the world don't matter. Zimmerman had reason to believe his life was in danger.


Actually they do. Because if, in reality, Zimmerman instigated the fight, it doesn't matter if he thought his life was in danger or not.

Mrbogey: Yes, but unlike the show CSI, it's not always picked up. Luckily Trayvon had bruised knuckles. Let me guess... Zimmerman stomped them to create the injury post death.


Remember how you said real life is not like CSI? Google Post-Mortem changes. Again, all it means is that a fight occured. It does not support Zimmerman's account of events.
 
2012-12-04 01:19:39 AM
JungleBoogie:
Fact: Two guys, keyed up for different reasons, stumbled into each other.
Fact: A fight breaks out.
Fact: Zimmerman was being beaten.
Fact: Zimmerman shot Martin.

Jim_Callahan: What you're describing is, quite literally, manslaughter. A fight that "gets out of hand" and results in a dead body is still a crime even if there is not a clear-cut single aggressor.


Actually, it depends on the state statutes. According to the homicide statues in Florida (located here - http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/Chapter782 ), there's something called "Excusable Homicide", which actually fits much more closely. It's left as an exercise to the readers to determine which is a better description of the incident.

Here's the "Excusable Homicide" statute - http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/782.03.

Here's the "Manslaughter" statute - http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/782.07


Added to forensic evidence, that pretty much shows Zimmerman's story of it totally being the other guy's fault to be complete shiate (intentionally or unintentionally) and we're back to him being liable enough for manslaughter.

This is simply not true.
 
2012-12-04 01:19:48 AM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom

Come on man, 9beers hasn't posted in months, and no one in here is coming close to saying "n*gger thugs deserved to be executed." Regardless of which side you're on, that's not helping.

I'm guessing 9beers has been posting in this thread under his regular username I think he got tired of his alt.
 
2012-12-04 01:20:35 AM

s2s2s2: Karma Curmudgeon: Cool story, bro. How many stitches did Zimmerman need?

If only that was relevant to the moment in which he was sustaining repeated injuries, with no end in sight.
Perhaps Trayvon had told him?

"I'm just gonna scuff you up, and break your nose, ok? Let's not let this get out of hand. I'm a promising young athlete and I think we'd all like to see me lead the Canes back to prominence, we cool?"


If only he hadn't killed Trayvon so we could know more about what happened. But since Zimmerman is the only witness of any substance, and he's lied before...
 
2012-12-04 01:20:38 AM

WaffleStomper: There is no way this will ever get a "fair" trial. If he walks, the supporters of Mr. Martin are going to scream injustice. If he's found guilty (which I doubt he will) the supporters of Zimmerman are going to scream the same. I see it probably a hung jury.


The jury dynamics do favor Zimmerman. Even if 11 people go into deliberations bent on convicting, all it takes is 1 bent on acquitting to hang the jury.
 
2012-12-04 01:21:54 AM

Frank N Stein: Mrbogey: All you Trayvon supporters haters ONLY support hate him because he was a black youth killed by a non-black. You don't give a damn about black kids killed by other black kids. You don't care about anything except what you can latch onto to make YOURSELVES look good. This is why the majority of people laugh at you moronic Social Justice Warriors bigots. Your lives are pathetic and you need something to make it worthwhile. Just do the damn dishes and visit grandma at the rest home and stop latching onto the flavor of the month.

Well put How insane.

 
HBK
2012-12-04 01:23:20 AM

Abacus9: Frank N Stein: ohokyeah: Stalking is hostile behavior.

Just because you call it stalking doesn't mean that it falls within the legal definition of stalking. Just to let you know.

Except that he disobeyed police in order to follow the guy.


No, no he didn't. See upthread, this has already been explained. A dispatcher is a call center employee that makes $12/hour- not a cop. They have no authority. They're the same as a taxi dispatcher.
 
2012-12-04 01:23:32 AM

Amos Quito: He put a slug in a thug who was trying to beat his brains out.


Yet no DNA of Zimmerman's on Martin's hands, and Martins arms were under him when the police arrived.

Man oh man is your racism showing.

Thug!
 
2012-12-04 01:23:39 AM

Amos Quito: Karma Curmudgeon: Amos Quito: He put a slug in a thug who was trying to beat his brains out.

Amos Quito: You underestimate the orgasmic pleasure that asshat doo-gooders derive from calling someone else racists "racist".

/if the hoodie fits...


FTFY


//also, read NextChapter's links and learn something like how does the Martin's DNA not be on the weapon fired at point blank with Martin on top of Zimmerman? Not logical.


Why SHOULD it be logical that Martin's DNA would be on the gun? Was he naked?

No, he was clothed - wearing a HOODIE (among other things). Consider the laws of physics and get back to us. 


something something CROSS BURNING something


I think I see where you're coming from.

Thanks for that.


Why don't you actually READ the links before posting?! It might bring you half a step up from the 'DumbAss' category.

"Somehow, I broke his grip on the gun where the guy grabbed it between the rear sight and the hammer."

The DNA evidence released by the prosecution two weeks ago revealed that Trayvon's DNA was not on Zimmerman's gun


If you have a rat's ass knowledge of science, in any shape, form or fashion, you might realize that if you have grabbed a gun so hard, that the other guy is stating, "Somehow, I broke his grip on the gun." You are going to have epithelial cells left behind on the gun. So, one more time, let's try this:

Zimmerman's statement, and what the evidence shows.
 
2012-12-04 01:24:24 AM

mittromneysdog: WaffleStomper: There is no way this will ever get a "fair" trial. If he walks, the supporters of Mr. Martin are going to scream injustice. If he's found guilty (which I doubt he will) the supporters of Zimmerman are going to scream the same. I see it probably a hung jury.

The jury dynamics do favor Zimmerman. Even if 11 people go into deliberations bent on convicting, all it takes is 1 bent on acquitting to hang the jury.


I thought Florida only needed 6 jurors. Could be wrong of course. That would make it harder for the defense for sure.
 
2012-12-04 01:24:58 AM

Mrbogey: BronyMedic: You, on the other hand, have stated in this very thread "The only reason people don't believe he's not guilty is because they're social justice white knights who think because he shot a black kid, he's guilty".

So? It's true.


Yeah. You keep farkin' that chicken.

people.virginia.edu

hypervocal.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com

Mrbogey thinks only the REAL RACISTS would disagree with him, clearly.
 
2012-12-04 01:25:43 AM

Mrbogey: So? It's true.


No DNA from Zimmerman on Martin's hands. Martin's arms UNDER his body when the cops arrived.

But YOU know "the truth" and call others willfully ignorant...

Dude, just come out and say it: That n*gger deserved it, right?
 
2012-12-04 01:26:41 AM

mittromneysdog: the fact of your poor moral character


Nah, you got nothing there. Facts seems to be a concept that eludes you. It won't become a fact when you read the transcripts, nor when you listen to the audio. I read, and listened. They were facts when they happened. The fact that they are recorded, and you would, instead of availing yourself of them, continue to refer to "my moral character" isn't saying a damned thing about "my" moral character.

mittromneysdog: I'll grant, I haven't personally reviewed every document in the case file. But I do know that:

1) the prosecutor has alleged that Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon after the dispatcher advised him not to,

2) that the ethics of her profession require her to have a good faith basis for making such an allegation, and

3) that the only evidence to the contrary comes from Zimmerman, who has demonstrated a troubled relationship with the truth.


1) alleged ≠ fact

2) Duke rape case, Michael Morton conviction, so on, so forth (re: prosecutorial ethics) LOL. It's about conviction percentages, not ethics.

3) the evidence of which I speak comes from a recording not done by Zimmerman, nor trnascribed by Zimmerman.

911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don't need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don't need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.


Feel free to read the rest for yourself. I don't care if it changes your mind, but it will certainly help you understand the facts(as opposed to assumptions).
 
2012-12-04 01:27:52 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah:

Problem is, Zimmerman didn't believe that the police could do their duty, as his "These *expletive*s always get away" remark shows.



Aye, therein lies the rub.
 
2012-12-04 01:28:26 AM

s2s2s2: 911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don't need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.


So what Florida Statute allows someone, who is not a law enforcement officer, not on his own property to pursue someone running from him?
 
2012-12-04 01:28:54 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: If only he hadn't killed Trayvon so we could know more about what happened. But since Zimmerman is the only witness of any substance, and he's lied before...


Yeah, and since. Doesn't mean much.
 
2012-12-04 01:29:05 AM

mediablitz: Mrbogey: So? It's true.

No DNA from Zimmerman on Martin's hands. Martin's arms UNDER his body when the cops arrived.

But YOU know "the truth" and call others willfully ignorant...

Dude, just come out and say it: That n*gger deserved it, right?


Actually Zimmerman's DNA was on Martin's right hand, only his right hand. None on his hoodie or any other part of his body. That doesn't jive at all with Zimmerman's story of Martin sitting on him punching him, slamming his head into the ground and covering his mouth up.
 
2012-12-04 01:30:44 AM

mediablitz: No DNA from Zimmerman on Martin's hands. Martin's arms UNDER his body when the cops arrived.


Yeah, no one that has just been shot in the front has ever put their hands near the wound, then fallen on them. Great detectiving.

BronyMedic: So what Florida Statute allows someone, who is not a law enforcement officer, not on his own property to pursue someone running from him?


Even better: What law forbids it?
 
HBK
2012-12-04 01:30:55 AM

s2s2s2: 2) Duke rape case, Michael Morton conviction, so on, so forth (re: prosecutorial ethics) LOL. It's about conviction percentages, not ethics.


It's not usually about conviction percentages.

Your other instinct was better. This case is going forward because of the media pressure rather than the facts of the case. It's why they re-hired a prosecutor they already fired once- so they can refire her when she loses.

What happened to who and when are not clear from the evidence. Who initiated the assault may never be proven. What will be clear by the end of all this, however, is how poorly drafted Florida's SYG statute is.
 
2012-12-04 01:31:10 AM

BronyMedic: OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Everyone realizes twayvon was a criminal right? I'm not saying gz was brilliant or anything but he definitely had legal and moral right to kill tway tway.

Getting popped with a dime bag makes someone a hardened, violent criminal worth being shot in the chest?

I see you're posting from Delaware. I would have thought Beijing, Myself.


He was serving a suspension for beating a bus driver and he's dead because he beat an armed citizen.
 
2012-12-04 01:31:41 AM

s2s2s2: Karma Curmudgeon: Cool story, bro. How many stitches did Zimmerman need?

If only that was relevant to the moment in which he was sustaining repeated injuries, with no end in sight.
Perhaps Trayvon had told him?

"I'm just gonna scuff you up, and break your nose, ok? Let's not let this get out of hand. I'm a promising young athlete and I think we'd all like to see me lead the Canes back to prominence, we cool?"


That's a lot of deflection for '0'. Maybe Martin would still be alive if everyday hero George Zimmerman wasn't such a pussy he could actually take a punch from the 17 year old kid he was tailing for no frkking reason.

Zimmerman's story does not add up. Not in common sense and not in the forensics. So yes you can say we don't know what really happened, which is true. But of what we DO KNOW what happened, none of that makes what Zimmmerman did, defensible.

/but keep trying, I'm going to bed
 
2012-12-04 01:32:04 AM

s2s2s2: Keizer_Ghidorah: If only he hadn't killed Trayvon so we could know more about what happened. But since Zimmerman is the only witness of any substance, and he's lied before...

Yeah, and since. Doesn't mean much.


Hey, when the only person who was there and survived won't tell the truth, you have to reconstruct it from other means and sources.
 
2012-12-04 01:32:41 AM

ongbok: Actually Zimmerman's DNA was on Martin's right hand, only his right hand. None on his hoodie or any other part of his body. That doesn't jive at all with Zimmerman's story of Martin sitting on him punching him, slamming his head into the ground and covering his mouth up


And the absence of it on his left hand proves nothing, nor does it disprove anything.
 
2012-12-04 01:32:44 AM

s2s2s2: Even better: What law forbids it?


I think that was my point. He had no legal right to pursue someone who was on private property just because "He didn't know him". The fact that he was chasing after Martin in and of its self, after following Martin in his vehicle and after he ran (Personally, if I realized someone was following me in a vehicle, I'd run too. -I'D- Be in fear of my life at that point.) goes towards his mentality and motive.

He was a wannabe-wacker who thought he was a cop, and wasn't willing to allow the police to do the job they were intended for.
 
2012-12-04 01:33:23 AM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: BronyMedic: OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Everyone realizes twayvon was a criminal right? I'm not saying gz was brilliant or anything but he definitely had legal and moral right to kill tway tway.

Getting popped with a dime bag makes someone a hardened, violent criminal worth being shot in the chest?

I see you're posting from Delaware. I would have thought Beijing, Myself.

He was serving a suspension for beating a bus driver and he's dead because he beat an armed citizen.


Since you know so much about what happened, maybe you should testify.
 
2012-12-04 01:33:50 AM

HBK: What will be clear by the end of all this, however, is how poorly drafted Florida's SYG statute is.


Perhaps.

I am in total agreement with the unquoted portion of your response to me.
 
2012-12-04 01:34:29 AM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: He was serving a suspension for beating a bus driver and he's dead because he beat an armed citizen.


So he deserved to die because he got in a fight on the bus?

Something no other teenager that has turned out to be anything but a gangbanging thug has done, right?

Just like smoking pot makes him a hardened, violent criminal?

And he's dead because - well, we really don't know what happened. We have Zimmerman's word (Which we've already seen how much that's worth), and a lot of circumstantial evidence leading up to the gunshot.
 
HBK
2012-12-04 01:35:31 AM

BronyMedic: s2s2s2: Even better: What law forbids it?

I think that was my point. He had no legal right to pursue someone who was on private property just because "He didn't know him". The fact that he was chasing after Martin in and of its self, after following Martin in his vehicle and after he ran (Personally, if I realized someone was following me in a vehicle, I'd run too. -I'D- Be in fear of my life at that point.) goes towards his mentality and motive.

He was a wannabe-wacker who thought he was a cop, and wasn't willing to allow the police to do the job they were intended for.



That actually did the opposite of proving your point. You have the right to do anything that's not illegal.
 
2012-12-04 01:35:49 AM
Trayvon Martin was a thug who got exactly what was coming to him. Period.
 
2012-12-04 01:36:29 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: won't tell the truth


...about some other shiat, we can assume what we want!

fair enough.

BronyMedic: He had no legal right to pursue someone


No, the point was that there is no law preventing him from having done so, therefore, he has the right to follow someone. I mean, the dispatcher DID ask him to observe and report any changes in Trayvon's actions/location. Maybe if the dispatcher had EVER been clear on exactly what they wanted George to do....
 
2012-12-04 01:37:03 AM

Mrbogey: Abacus9: Except that he disobeyed police in order to follow the guy.

Here's some advice.

These are not cops:

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I wasn't talking about Zimmerman, who wasn't even 'neighborhood watch'. I was referring to his call to the police.
/Observe and Report
 
2012-12-04 01:37:18 AM
Are they charging him with murder 1, 2 or manslaughter. I haven't payed that much attention to the case. Maybe someone could tell me.
 
2012-12-04 01:38:13 AM

BoobySnacks: Trayvon Martin was a thug who got exactly what was coming to him. Period.


Aren't you a little late to be trying this level of trolling?
 
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