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2012-12-03 04:26:43 PM  
If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.
 
2012-12-03 05:37:06 PM  

IAmRight: If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.


That's pretty much the perfect way to put it.

We're done here I think.
 
2012-12-03 05:55:44 PM  
There are only three schools the Bulldogs have played more in football than ULM (Southern Miss, Northwestern State and Lafayette). I can't fathom a reason this doesn't come down to the AD being a coward about playing in his region's biggest game against one of the three big instate rivals.
 
2012-12-03 07:38:42 PM  
And as this is the 2nd straight year a 6-7 team has gone bowling, may I just repeat, for the record, that a sport which has 120 or so participants should not have the same number of playoff spots as a sport which has close to 300 participants (if not more). Kill all the duplicate bowls, kill any bowl north of the snow line, save possibly the Motor City bc it's the only thing the MAC usually has, and stop the asshattery that has become college football bowl season. (Hell, that last sentence is probably two words too long.)
 
2012-12-03 07:40:21 PM  

IAmRight: If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.


That is just a brilliant word.
 
2012-12-03 07:55:05 PM  
Meanwhile, Middle Tennessee State (8-4) waits by the phone and wonders why nobody is calling because they're the only other bowl-eligible team and they have a winning record and everything and someone's got to call, right?
 
2012-12-03 07:56:04 PM  

IAmRight: If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.


*internet bro fist*

Well put.
 
2012-12-03 07:59:16 PM  
This thread was done in one.
 
2012-12-03 08:00:23 PM  

FriarReb98: kill any bowl north of the snow line


Yes, let's continue to give the Pac 12, Big XII and SEC home field advantage, every year, in perpetuity. Because those moments like a couple of years ago when Miami played in 50-degee weather freezing their candy asses off, while Wisconsin played in shirt sleeves, are so horrible.
 
2012-12-03 08:00:43 PM  
And yet the Minnesota Gophers get to go to a bowl game...
 
2012-12-03 08:06:27 PM  

buckeyebrain: Yes, let's continue to give the Pac 12, Big XII and SEC home field advantage, every year, in perpetuity. Because those moments like a couple of years ago when Miami played in 50-degee weather freezing their candy asses off, while Wisconsin played in shirt sleeves, are so horrible.


So you're okay with there being 70 teams bowling, over 50% of all teams, including a losing team and a handful of 6-6 teams? This bowl season shiat is not about home field or any other crap. If the powers that be are so goddamned set against letting there be a true playoff system, then the bowls should be what they were always intended to be - rewards for successful seasons in warm climates, not some sham of a moneymaking scheme which, oh ya, loses money for most of the bowls before New Year's.
 
2012-12-03 08:10:28 PM  

FriarReb98: This bowl season shiat


These four words....it's all I really needed.
 
2012-12-03 08:17:04 PM  
I like a well-curated bowl game.
 
2012-12-03 08:19:27 PM  

FriarReb98: buckeyebrain: Yes, let's continue to give the Pac 12, Big XII and SEC home field advantage, every year, in perpetuity. Because those moments like a couple of years ago when Miami played in 50-degee weather freezing their candy asses off, while Wisconsin played in shirt sleeves, are so horrible.

So you're okay with there being 70 teams bowling, over 50% of all teams, including a losing team and a handful of 6-6 teams? This bowl season shiat is not about home field or any other crap. If the powers that be are so goddamned set against letting there be a true playoff system, then the bowls should be what they were always intended to be - rewards for successful seasons in warm climates, not some sham of a moneymaking scheme which, oh ya, loses money for most of the bowls before New Year's.


Where did I say anything about the number of bowls? I'm merely talking about the home field advantage that the West and South teams routinely enjoy. Cut some of those!
 
2012-12-03 08:25:44 PM  

buckeyebrain: Where did I say anything about the number of bowls? I'm merely talking about the home field advantage that the West and South teams routinely enjoy. Cut some of those!


Oh trust me, I don't think there should be a duplicate bowl anywhere. No Spirit of Dallas bowl, no Saint Pete bowl, no Champs Sports, none of them. The duplicates are the worst offenders to me, because it's people trying to bilk more money out of the system for their select cities.

At the same time, there is no northern bowl that predates the BCS. That's what I'm referring to.
 
2012-12-03 08:26:27 PM  

buckeyebrain: Yes, let's continue to give the Pac 12, Big XII and SEC home field advantage, every year, in perpetuity.


Oh, good lord- it has nothing to do with giving particular conferences home-field, it has to do with which cities are tourist destinations in the middle of winter.

Judging by your name, you live in or around Ohio. If you had the opportunity to travel to Miami, Cincinnati, Orlando, Pasadena, San Antonio, or Cleveland on New Year's Day, and money was not an issue, which would you choose? What would be second?

Yes, there are now bowls in some cities that probably shouldn't host bowls, like Boise and Shreveport. And for the most part, those are the bowls with empty stands. It's not a case of discrimination, unless you think the weather is also part of the conspiracy.
 
2012-12-03 08:27:12 PM  

FriarReb98: And as this is the 2nd straight year a 6-7 team has gone bowling, may I just repeat, for the record, that a sport which has 120 or so participants should not have the same number of playoff spots as a sport which has close to 300 participants (if not more). Kill all the duplicate bowls, kill any bowl north of the snow line, save possibly the Motor City bc it's the only thing the MAC usually has, and stop the asshattery that has become college football bowl season. (Hell, that last sentence is probably two words too long.)


If you mean College Basketball as the 300+ (actualy # is 347)... there are actually more "post season teams" than just the 68 teams in the NCAA tournament:
* 32 teams in the NIT
* 32 teams in the CIT (CollegeInsiders.com Tournament)
* 16 teams in the CBI (College Basketball Invitational)

And honestly, the crap bowls are no more prestigious than the CBI or CIT. So, that is 148 teams... still a much lower % (42%) than the number of FB teams that get into bowl games (70/124 = 56%). I would agree they should cap the number of bowl games to 30 (60 teams).
 
2012-12-03 08:29:42 PM  
FTA:He also denied trying to duck Louisiana-Monroe. "This had nothing to do with who was in the bowl game," Van De Velde said. "We simply asked for more time. They were not going to wait."

DUMBASS!!
 
2012-12-03 08:35:06 PM  

Dinobot: FTA:He also denied trying to duck Louisiana-Monroe. "This had nothing to do with who was in the bowl game," Van De Velde said. "We simply asked for more time. They were not going to wait."

DUMBASS!!


Actually, it would make sense for these bowls to at least have to wait until most of the teams have finished their season (maybe all but the very late Army/Navy game). Just more to show how silly and political most of the College Bowl system is.
 
2012-12-03 08:40:10 PM  
Douchebag Kirk Herbstreit, after learning Northern Illinois went to a BCS bowl game.

netanimations.net
 
2012-12-03 08:41:01 PM  

Gosling: Meanwhile, Middle Tennessee State (8-4) waits by the phone and wonders why nobody is calling because they're the only other bowl-eligible team and they have a winning record and everything and someone's got to call, right?


Maybe the two singles left at the bar should find a stadium somewhere and hook up one night.
 
2012-12-03 08:47:24 PM  

FriarReb98: And as this is the 2nd straight year a 6-7 team has gone bowling, may I just repeat, for the record, that a sport which has 120 or so participants should not have the same number of playoff spots as a sport which has close to 300 participants (if not more). Kill all the duplicate bowls, kill any bowl north of the snow line, save possibly the Motor City bc it's the only thing the MAC usually has, and stop the asshattery that has become college football bowl season. (Hell, that last sentence is probably two words too long.)


Seven MAC teams went to bowl games this year. Just sayin'....
 
2012-12-03 08:59:16 PM  

ChrisDe: Seven MAC teams went to bowl games this year. Just sayin'....


And five of them are playing WAC and Sun Belt teams.

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl: Toledo vs. #22 Utah St. (WAC)
Beef O'Brady's Bowl: Ball St. vs. Central Florida (Conference USA)
Little Caesars Pizza Bowl: Central Michigan vs. Western Kentucky (Sun Belt)
Military Bowl: Bowling Green vs. #24 San Jose St. (WAC)
Independence Bowl: Ohio vs. Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
GoDaddy.com Bowl: #25 Kent St. vs. Arkansas St. (Sun Belt)
Orange Bowl: #15 Northern Illinois vs. #12 Florida St. (ACC)
 
2012-12-03 09:08:28 PM  

Gosling: ChrisDe: Seven MAC teams went to bowl games this year. Just sayin'....

And five of them are playing WAC and Sun Belt teams.

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl: Toledo vs. #22 Utah St. (WAC)
Beef O'Brady's Bowl: Ball St. vs. Central Florida (Conference USA)
Little Caesars Pizza Bowl: Central Michigan vs. Western Kentucky (Sun Belt)
Military Bowl: Bowling Green vs. #24 San Jose St. (WAC)
Independence Bowl: Ohio vs. Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
GoDaddy.com Bowl: #25 Kent St. vs. Arkansas St. (Sun Belt)
Orange Bowl: #15 Northern Illinois vs. #12 Florida St. (ACC)


Other than the fact that Northern Ill. got into the BCS, seems like that is pretty standard.

Seems like they should just make it "official" and put the WAC/CUSA/SB/MAC/MTNWEST into some sort of "level" between FBS and FCS.... give that level like the 7-9 bowls they already seem to have, and then the rest of the bowls stay at the "top level".... then the "big boys" won't have to worry about some "bad conference" school "sneaking in".
 
2012-12-03 09:08:34 PM  
Let me put up the SEC pairings, just for fun. There are nine of them going:

Music City Bowl: Vanderbilt vs. North Carolina St. (ACC)
Chick-fil-A Bowl: #8 LSU vs. #14 Clemson (ACC)
Gator Bowl: Mississippi St. vs. #20 Northwestern (Big Ten)
Capital One Bowl: #7 Georgia vs. #16 Nebraska (Big Ten)
Outback Bowl: #10 South Carolina vs. #18 Michigan (Big Ten)
Cotton Bowl: #9 Texas A&M vs. #11 Oklahoma (Big 12)
Compass Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Pittsburgh (Big East)
Sugar Bowl: #3 Florida vs. #21 Louisville (Big East)
BCS Championship: #2 Alabama vs. #1 Notre Dame (independent)
 
2012-12-03 09:15:55 PM  

dletter: Seems like they should just make it "official" and put the WAC/CUSA/SB/MAC/MTNWEST into some sort of "level" between FBS and FCS.... give that level like the 7-9 bowls they already seem to have, and then the rest of the bowls stay at the "top level".... then the "big boys" won't have to worry about some "bad conference" school "sneaking in".


My response to that is simple.

You see all the conference-hopping going on now? That's all from schools looking to improve their situation and get more money and more access to better bowls. You formally uncouple any of those conferences from all access to the big bowls and the big money, and what is to stop that conference from simply ceasing to exist for all the schools running from it to conferences that DO allow access? The whole reason any of these schools are IN FBS in the first place is because they want the damned money. You tell them they can't have it, and they will tell you that fark you. You break off, say, the MAC, and you'll see Northern Illinois applying to the Big 12, someone applying to Conference USA, the Big Ten getting God knows how many applicants, the ACC getting an application or two and the Big East taking everyone that didn't get in somewhere else.
 
2012-12-03 09:21:18 PM  
Not that it helps, but GT shouldn't have been in the ACCCG. They'd be 6-6 if it wasn't for Miami and UNC.

Didn't something similar happen to UCLA last year?

The bowl system sucks.
 
2012-12-03 09:21:48 PM  
an A&M-Oklahoma Cotton Bowl?


Oh man I bet the organizers were praying to be able to choose Texas v. Texas A&M.
 
das
2012-12-03 09:41:51 PM  

Gosling: Notre Dame


Notre Dame sucks.
 
2012-12-03 09:50:11 PM  

Gosling: dletter: Seems like they should just make it "official" and put the WAC/CUSA/SB/MAC/MTNWEST into some sort of "level" between FBS and FCS.... give that level like the 7-9 bowls they already seem to have, and then the rest of the bowls stay at the "top level".... then the "big boys" won't have to worry about some "bad conference" school "sneaking in".

My response to that is simple.

You see all the conference-hopping going on now? That's all from schools looking to improve their situation and get more money and more access to better bowls. You formally uncouple any of those conferences from all access to the big bowls and the big money, and what is to stop that conference from simply ceasing to exist for all the schools running from it to conferences that DO allow access? The whole reason any of these schools are IN FBS in the first place is because they want the damned money. You tell them they can't have it, and they will tell you that fark you. You break off, say, the MAC, and you'll see Northern Illinois applying to the Big 12, someone applying to Conference USA, the Big Ten getting God knows how many applicants, the ACC getting an application or two and the Big East taking everyone that didn't get in somewhere else.


I guess to a certain extent I am mostly talking about the Sun Belt and MAC.... although most of the teams any "big conference" would want have already been taken out of CUSA, MW, and (soon to be dead) WAC. Temple was just a "loan" to the MAC, otherwise, there are no MAC teams any big conference would want.

I am not saying that the 6 big conferences (B10,P12,SEC,ACC,Big East,B12) wouldn't probably grow to 16 teams each (96 teams) by taking in the stronger remaining teams in those 4 conferences, like NIU as you stated.... that leaves about 30 other teams that are mainly irrelevant In BCS football anyway. Then you have either 96 or 97 teams (depending on whether ND actually joins a conference) in the new "top" level.

And I am not saying I even "like" that idea, but, it just seems to be the way things are heading.
 
2012-12-03 09:52:08 PM  
I honestly don't get the "there are too many bowls" hate.

So what? Some kids get a great experience and people make money. Why do you care If Bumf*ck State went 6-6 and gets to play in the Ore Ida Bumf*ck Potato Bowl Presented by the Gem State Agriculture Commission?
 
2012-12-03 10:00:12 PM  

IAmRight: If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.


And we're done here.
 
2012-12-03 10:00:58 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: I honestly don't get the "there are too many bowls" hate.

So what? Some kids get a great experience and people make money. Why do you care If Bumf*ck State went 6-6 and gets to play in the Ore Ida Bumf*ck Potato Bowl Presented by the Gem State Agriculture Commission?


I hate it because the Bowls are a rip-off. SI did a great feature on them last year and showed how schools lose money, a lot of it, going to Bowls while the ADs make a farking killing with bonuses.
 
2012-12-03 10:04:31 PM  

dletter: Temple was just a "loan" to the MAC, otherwise, there are no MAC teams any big conference would want.


Oh, hell, the Big East will take anyone these days. There's a D3 Bible college in my hometown, Maranatha Baptist; they could probably get into the Big East if they wanted.
 
2012-12-03 10:07:07 PM  
After RTFA, I agree with Karl Malone. I must now go lie down.
 
2012-12-03 10:25:39 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: I honestly don't get the "there are too many bowls" hate.

So what? Some kids get a great experience and people make money. Why do you care If Bumf*ck State went 6-6 and gets to play in the Ore Ida Bumf*ck Potato Bowl Presented by the Gem State Agriculture Commission?


It's like many things related to sports - remember the Olympics? It's all about getting rid of things people don't like - they're incapable of not watching and not talking about it, and it enrages them that some people do enjoy watching football for two straight weeks during the holiday break. I say add more! Add everything! Add more events to the Olympics - why not backwards running and an IM of crab walking, bear crawling, backwards running, and sprinting? Who wouldn't watch that? WAY more interesting.

Similarly, I say, bring on more football! Bowls are how programs grow - ASU got into the Pac-8 back in the day by adding the Fiesta Bowl as a bowl for them to pretty much host all the time as WAC champs, which got them the extra month of practices, which got them TV time, which got them recruits, which helped them build into a program. Same with the Humanitarian Bowl or whatever - got Boise along the road to becoming a bigger and bigger power. College football is a RPG that everyone thinks of as a simple side-scrolling game.
 
2012-12-03 10:57:10 PM  

Gosling: Meanwhile, Middle Tennessee State (8-4) waits by the phone and wonders why nobody is calling because they're the only other bowl-eligible team and they have a winning record and everything and someone's got to call, right?


Not to mention MTSU stomped the same GT team that got the waiver to play in the bowl game, that GT team is terrible, I give paul johnson one more year before hes shiat canned.
 
2012-12-03 11:08:37 PM  

IAmRight: If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.


Well, that's not how the school sees it.

More like, it's closing time and a drunk 6 wants to take you home to fark. You tell her you'll think about it as you continue to stare at the 9 walking out with the local QB. By the time you decide to settle (like you're any catch yourself), the 6 moved on.

The resulting crysturbating is the same.
 
2012-12-03 11:25:39 PM  

IAmRight: It's like many things related to sports - remember the Olympics? It's all about getting rid of things people don't like - they're incapable of not watching and not talking about it, and it enrages them that some people do enjoy watching football for two straight weeks during the holiday break. I say add more! Add everything! Add more events to the Olympics - why not backwards running and an IM of crab walking, bear crawling, backwards running, and sprinting? Who wouldn't watch that? WAY more interesting.


Believe me, IAmRight: if we thought the host city could remotely afford it, that is precisely what we'd end up doing. And I'd eat up every minute of it. And so would everyone else. I recall during London, I managed to get a thread to show serious, sustained, legitimate interest in race walking.

I rather like the ekiden as a potential event myself. Basically it's a unisex relay race on a marathon course. You make a team with X number of men and Y number of women, spaced at predetermined-but-uneven intervals throughout the course. Your task is to not only pick the runners and the order, but also get a look at the course segments and figure out how long a segment to give each runner.
 
2012-12-03 11:28:37 PM  
Okay, since I didn't care too much about FBS level ball this year, I went back and looked at the record/schedules. I even laughed at a sh*tty article that was submitted in the queue talking up LaTech, using the phrase "Bowl Championship Series conferences" to try to puff up the fact that the crowning jewels of the LaTech wins were f*cking Illinois, a team that went 2-10 (1-10 against FBS competition, 0-8 against the f*cking BIG TEN) and Virginia, a 4-8 squad that Georgia Tech, whose resume "simply doesn't measure up," housed by 36 points.

Oh yeah, let me feel bad for the team whose best moment of the season is "we didn't lose by much to Texas A&M!"
 
2012-12-03 11:47:14 PM  
college football is a shiat system. PLAYOFFS. Bowl games should not be decided on "invite and acceptance"

what a joke.
 
2012-12-03 11:59:02 PM  

Gosling: Let me put up the SEC pairings, just for fun. There are nine of them going:

Music City Bowl: Vanderbilt vs. North Carolina St. (ACC)
Chick-fil-A Bowl: #8 LSU vs. #14 Clemson (ACC)
Gator Bowl: Mississippi St. vs. #20 Northwestern (Big Ten)
Capital One Bowl: #7 Georgia vs. #16 Nebraska (Big Ten)
Outback Bowl: #10 South Carolina vs. #18 Michigan (Big Ten)
Cotton Bowl: #9 Texas A&M vs. #11 Oklahoma (Big 12)
Compass Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Pittsburgh (Big East)
Sugar Bowl: #3 Florida vs. #21 Louisville (Big East)
BCS Championship: #2 Alabama vs. #1 Notre Dame (independent)


Anything less than 7-2 against that farking joke a bowl schedule for the SEC would be embarrassing.
 
2012-12-04 12:02:19 AM  

PowerSlacker: Anything less than 7-2 against that farking joke a bowl schedule for the SEC would be embarrassing.


And therefore they will prove their might again!
 
2012-12-04 12:36:53 AM  

IAmRight: If a woman in a bar tells you she wants to f*ck your brains out and you decline because she's not pretty enough, don't be whining about how you had to crysturbate yourself to sleep.


I read that as "cyberbate" which I think also works quite well.

/not to give away my plans for the evening
 
2012-12-04 12:50:17 AM  

Mad Canadian: And yet the Minnesota Gophers get to go to a bowl game...


surprised the fark out of me i thought they would never make a bowl this year.
 
2012-12-04 02:38:42 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: I honestly don't get the "there are too many bowls" hate.

So what? Some kids get a great experience and people make money. Why do you care If Bumf*ck State went 6-6 and gets to play in the Ore Ida Bumf*ck Potato Bowl Presented by the Gem State Agriculture Commission?


because STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! that's why
 
2012-12-04 02:40:35 AM  
ecocar.gatech.edu

Haters gonna... oh man, we're bad. I wanted GT to decline the bid until I found out they were playing USC. They better farkin' win this one.
 
2012-12-04 03:55:31 AM  

FriarReb98: And as this is the 2nd straight year a 6-7 team has gone bowling, may I just repeat, for the record, that a sport which has 120 or so participants should not have the same number of playoff spots as a sport which has close to 300 participants (if not more). Kill all the duplicate bowls, kill any bowl north of the snow line, save possibly the Motor City bc it's the only thing the MAC usually has, and stop the asshattery that has become college football bowl season. (Hell, that last sentence is probably two words too long.)


nah.

37 words too long.
 
2012-12-04 03:57:45 AM  

PowerSlacker: Gosling: Let me put up the SEC pairings, just for fun. There are nine of them going:

Music City Bowl: Vanderbilt vs. North Carolina St. (ACC)
Chick-fil-A Bowl: #8 LSU vs. #14 Clemson (ACC)
Gator Bowl: Mississippi St. vs. #20 Northwestern (Big Ten)
Capital One Bowl: #7 Georgia vs. #16 Nebraska (Big Ten)
Outback Bowl: #10 South Carolina vs. #18 Michigan (Big Ten)
Cotton Bowl: #9 Texas A&M vs. #11 Oklahoma (Big 12)
Compass Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Pittsburgh (Big East)
Sugar Bowl: #3 Florida vs. #21 Louisville (Big East)
BCS Championship: #2 Alabama vs. #1 Notre Dame (independent)

Anything less than 7-2 against that farking joke a bowl schedule for the SEC would be embarrassing.


I see 3 losses to the big ten.

hope for 5-4, worse is a possibility for your overhyped collection of overhyped overhypees
 
2012-12-04 09:01:13 AM  

Gosling: ChrisDe: Seven MAC teams went to bowl games this year. Just sayin'....

And five of them are playing WAC and Sun Belt teams.

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl: Toledo vs. #22 Utah St. (WAC)
Beef O'Brady's Bowl: Ball St. vs. Central Florida (Conference USA)
Little Caesars Pizza Bowl: Central Michigan vs. Western Kentucky (Sun Belt)
Military Bowl: Bowling Green vs. #24 San Jose St. (WAC)
Independence Bowl: Ohio vs. Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
GoDaddy.com Bowl: #25 Kent St. vs. Arkansas St. (Sun Belt)
Orange Bowl: #15 Northern Illinois vs. #12 Florida St. (ACC)


wtf is a Beef O'Brady? Who named a bowl game after their Johnson?
 
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