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2012-12-03 02:33:50 PM  
Everyone knows this game peaked with Warcraft 2 in 1996.

Glope-tar!
 
2012-12-03 02:34:11 PM  

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:

Silent Hill 2
Deus Ex
Killer 7
Shadows of the Colossus
Portal
Saints Row 2
Painkiller
Psychonauts
Bioshock
No More Heroes
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Batman: Arkham Asylum
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money
God of War
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario
Final Fantasy VI (shocking isn't it?)
Chrono Trigger (I think hell just froze over twice)
Tom Clancy's HAWX
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Dead Rising 1 and 2
COD4
Infamous and Prototype
House of the Dead series
Assassin's Creed 2
Guitar Hero 1 & 2 and the Rock Bands
Minecraft
Beyond Good and Evil
Earthbound
Prince of Persia (the new ones)
Team Fortress 2
Metro 2033
Serious Sam
System Shock 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Gears of War 2
Grim Fandango
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Metroid Prime

He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.


I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.
 
2012-12-03 02:34:47 PM  

fozziewazzi: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

If I were cynical, I'd say this WoW release was less about a lack of creativity, and more a deliberate attempt to pander to China and Chinese players. But only if I were cynical.


Especially if you account for the fact that the pandas were originally going to be samurai type characters but they changed it after certain demographics complained that there are no pandas in Japan.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:31 PM  

Lego_Addict: I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.


That's just his review style. He even directly addresses it in one of them.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:47 PM  

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


I'd sooner play solitaire til dawn, with the class of '51.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:56 PM  
just because you keep pimping it, doesn't make it worth my money...
 
2012-12-03 02:36:27 PM  

Treygreen13:
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money


Filterpwn level: EPIC

This is an absolutely true story, you can choose to believe it or not, but it doesn't matter to me. I know someone who was so addicted to WoW that more than once a friend of his came over and farked his wife on the bed directly behind his computer chair, but the guy was so zoned into the raid or whatever he was doing that he never turned around and caught them. He didn't hear anything because he had noise-cancelling headphones on, and I don't think the guy ever actually knew what happened.

I am glad I stopped playing WoW a few years before I heard this story. I don't think I could ever do anything that addictive ever again.

/This is not such a CSB actually--this guy is now broke, divorced, and pretty much on disability for life. Definitely no Hollywood ending here.
 
2012-12-03 02:36:48 PM  

Jubeebee: LowbrowDeluxe: Jubeebee: Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

The pandaren started as a creation of Samwise Didier and an April Fool's joke, but they got a massive response from Warcraft fans...When the expansion to Warcraft III was announced, the Pandaren Brewmaster was added as a neutral hero. 


except if you read lower in this same farking thread you'd see that it didn't start with Samwise, he basically copied Panda Khan.
 
2012-12-03 02:36:56 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Oh, I know; he does have pretty solid tastes. It's just fun to take shots at his antagonistic approach to the whole thing.


Yeah, it's strange to see him just glow about a game.

He really liked Minecraft, so much so that his review was just him telling everyone about it like a "Let's Play" video.
 
2012-12-03 02:37:30 PM  
Oh, and since I'm at work and can't actually click any game related links...what's the special now? Are they letting you download a free copy of the game and hoping to hook you on the $15 a month? Or do they still want you to pay $60 up front and then they "give" you a few months of free playtime?
 
2012-12-03 02:38:30 PM  

Hobodeluxe: I enjoyed the starter area for Pandas. Didn't try any of the high level stuff although I do have a few 85s. I left a while back. Just wanted to check out the new race/class a bit


As a casual/social WoW player, I'm really enjoying Pandaria. Burning Crusade was the last XPAC I got this much enjoyment out of (and although it's argued that BC was very unforgiving for casual players, the fact was that I had something to do every day that I logged in, even if it was just struggling with the 5 man content).

Anyways, LK & Cataclysm both had the same issue for me. I burned through the available content way too quickly, and the only things available to me were watching paint dry (lich king), or doing horribly boring dailies over and over (Cataclysm).

MoP only has "too many dailies" if you are obsessed with doing them all at the same time. If you're patient enough to figure out which faction(s) you want to work on, and just do one or two sets of dailies a day, it's fine.

I really enjoy the storyline so far. I thought Anduin Wrynn was a twerp in previous expansions, but I like what they've done with the character and it makes me interested to see what else they'll do with him. I like the pandas too (some more than others, Chen Stormstout is pretty cool).

They've fixed the difficulty of most LFR instances. The first one is pretty laughable (and boring because it's so laughable), but the other ones have some actual gameplay to them now (even if it's lower difficulty than organized raids, it's enough gameplay to make them enjoyable to run. Dragon Soul LFR made me want to claw my eyes out).

My only complaints are about the currencies (justice points are just this side of useless, and valor points don't come fast enough for the people who need them to qualify for LFR).

And mock the pokemon style pet battles as you like, they're still fun and you can get some cool mini pets.

I don't feel obligated to play WoW for ridiculous amounts of time anymore, and I can login and have a wide variety of stuff open to me based on what suits my mood (daily quests for rep, heroic dungeons or LFR, challenge mode dungeons, pet battles, etc). The quests were enjoyable, and I have enough to do on my main character so that I don't feel it necessary to level up 7 alts (and get bored by doing the same quests over and over).

Others may have some complaint, but I've really enjoyed this expansion.
 
2012-12-03 02:39:07 PM  

Greil: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

I tired it, and I hated it. why? it's too gdamn easy. I rand the wailing caverns with a group in 20 friggin minutes. that used to take us an hour and a half of careful, difficult combat. now it's a smash and grab job where half the people won't talk to you. recancelled subscription, never gonna bother again.


This. I guess the point of classic dungeons now is to just lvl your toon up REALLY fast with little effort. I ran my new monk through one of the new Scarlet Monastery dungeons. There's one quest, and you have to pick up two swords and stab the corpse of the boss with them at the end. Well by group rolled through it so fast, i never even saw the first sword and you can't pick up the second without the first. Once we killed the boss and the group disbanded, I went back and got the swords, but by that point you were not longer able to stab the corpse. The story line might have been nice if I had time to actually absorb it.
 
2012-12-03 02:39:22 PM  
lol, whut?
 
2012-12-03 02:39:41 PM  

GoldSpider: Garko: [gotgame.com image 500x320]

I'm dabbling in that, but haven't gotten very far yet. Right now I want to build up some cash and learn more about the kind of gear and build I should be working towards for my playstyle.


But at least in GW2, you only have to buy the game once -Not every month.
 
2012-12-03 02:41:02 PM  

Lego_Addict: I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.


Those are just the ones he mentions positively. No telling what else out there he likes. I bet he'd like Mount & Blade: Warband if he played it.
 
2012-12-03 02:42:14 PM  

Lego_Addict: He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.

I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.


Well, sometimes it's hard to tell that he likes a game, because he still finds things that are wrong with it or that could be improved.

For instance, that list didn't include "Spec Ops: The Line". He had great things to say about it, although he wasn't a huge fan of the game play and was a little reflective that a game with that much emotional depth may not really be something you can enjoy playing.
 
2012-12-03 02:42:57 PM  

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Oh, I know; he does have pretty solid tastes. It's just fun to take shots at his antagonistic approach to the whole thing.

Yeah, it's strange to see him just glow about a game.

He really liked Minecraft, so much so that his review was just him telling everyone about it like a "Let's Play" video.


I hear he's so addicted to the genre, he snorts the sand right out of the box. True story.
 
2012-12-03 02:43:34 PM  

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:

Silent Hill 2
Deus Ex
Killer 7
Shadows of the Colossus
Portal
Saints Row 2
Painkiller
Psychonauts
Bioshock
No More Heroes
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Batman: Arkham Asylum
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money
God of War
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario
Final Fantasy VI (shocking isn't it?)
Chrono Trigger (I think hell just froze over twice)
Tom Clancy's HAWX
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Dead Rising 1 and 2
COD4
Infamous and Prototype
House of the Dead series
Assassin's Creed 2
Guitar Hero 1 & 2 and the Rock Bands
Minecraft
Beyond Good and Evil
Earthbound
Prince of Persia (the new ones)
Team Fortress 2
Metro 2033
Serious Sam
System Shock 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Gears of War 2
Grim Fandango
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Metroid Prime

He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.


I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.

/He also doesn't like Demon's/Dark Souls, but nobody's perfect.
 
2012-12-03 02:44:08 PM  

Garko: But at least in GW2, you only have to buy the game once -Not every month.


A big reason why I took the plunge. Love how each kind of weapon has different skills; ArenaNet comes up with some pretty unique ideas like that. Crafting options seem to be rather limited early on though, at least from my point of view.
 
2012-12-03 02:44:41 PM  

GrogSmash: aevorea: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

Any praise I've heard about MoP is from the players who predominately play WoW for the PvP.

Exactly. It's anther example of Blizzards new philosophy of 'You will play the game the way WE want, not the way YOU want'.

The current push is for PvP in everything, and Pandaria is, from what I understand, aimed specifically for PvP.

This cost them a lot of loyal players who refuse to PvP.


That doesn't make sense. WoW still has PvE and PvP realms. If you play on a PvE realm (as I do), there is no requirement to engage in PvP at all.

I think what the poster meant is that on the PvP realms, the zones and quest hubs in Pandaria have been structured in such a way as to encourage PvP naturally. There aren't many tangible rewards for it (like the bonus for capturing towers in hellfire Peninsula), but they've set things up so that human nature encourages some conflict (Like if you're alliance, and you see some horde guy fighting a goat perilously close to the edge of a cliff... the temptation to swing by and use a knockback spell is going to be too high to pass up).

With the emphasis on daily quests for rep gains, it's also going to put horde an alliance into the same areas of the map with higher frequency (and thus lead to more conflicts).

Again though, this only affects players who are signing up to be on a PvP realm (in which case I would assume that's exactly the kind of battles they want).
 
2012-12-03 02:44:44 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.


He may like those. My list isn't really all-inclusive, just cobbled together from a couple different lists people have put together.
 
2012-12-03 02:45:47 PM  
WHAT!?!!!!!111!?? WHEN DID THIS COME OUT??? FARK U BLIZZARD FOR JUST NOW TELLING ME!!
 
2012-12-03 02:45:49 PM  
If Fark must insist upon using sponsored links at least dont tell us. If we dont know we wont care.
 
2012-12-03 02:46:33 PM  

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


That don't bother me at all
 
2012-12-03 02:47:39 PM  

farkingatwork: What do you expect? Blizzard is bleeding subscribers or they wouldn't need to advertise.


haven't played since 1 month into cataclysm's release (wherst. expansion. evar), and blizzard just sent me an email this morning with a free 10 days for mists.

desperate or savvy?

/i think i can resist.
 
2012-12-03 02:48:00 PM  
My name is cyks and I'm a recovering addict.

I played WoW for a few years, starting soon after it's launch and through BC before I was able to break the addiction.

Thankfully, quitting WoW was one of the easiest things I could do. The game was great when it first debuted... back when the quests and goals actually meant something and seeing players walking around in their tier sets was actually impressive. Unfortunately, with BC (and everything since), Blizzard began lowering the requirements more and more, made epic items far easier to obtain, and basically dumbed down the entire game. Why bother getting a group of 20 players together to raid when you could simply farm reputation and get comparable gear? Why bother farming rep when you could simply wait for a holiday event and get the special drops then?

I enjoyed the game for the long grinds, having to work with others to figure things out, the social aspects, and where only the few elite would have top gear, but, by changing it for the lowest common denominator, Blizzard took out everything that I found enjoyable.

I'm glad to be done with it.
 
2012-12-03 02:48:13 PM  

GoldSpider: A big reason why I took the plunge. Love how each kind of weapon has different skills; ArenaNet comes up with some pretty unique ideas like that. Crafting options seem to be rather limited early on though, at least from my point of view.


One thing I didn't like about the crafting in GW2 in terms of weapons/armor while leveling was that by the time I'd farmed up all the necessary resources for a weapon, I would have already out-leveled it. And when I go to the market to finally buy the resources for the weapon... there it is at (basically) cost.

I ended up just getting to max level off drops and buying weapon upgrades for a pittance on the market, and then saving up all my cash and buying the mats to level my skill then buy all the mats for my ultimate weapons.

Cooking was good, though. I did that and it kept me interested hunting down ingredients and buffing myself.
 
2012-12-03 02:48:20 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.

/He also doesn't like Demon's/Dark Souls, but nobody's perfect.


You could easily like any of those without liking the rest. I personally found BG1 to be the best of the series (followed chronologically by IWD1, BG2, IWD2... Torment didn't even make my radar, because the talking skull thing was dumb)
 
2012-12-03 02:49:13 PM  
This pretty much summed up my reaction to the headline as a former WoW player:
 
2012-12-03 02:50:55 PM  
Edit: Too big, try here.
 
2012-12-03 02:51:01 PM  

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 292x172]

How many sponsored links are we going to have to put up with for this game?

This is... what, the second time this week?


Drew's got to pay for his beer somehow
 
2012-12-03 02:52:10 PM  

DECMATH: ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.

I'd sooner play solitaire til dawn, with the class a deck of 51.


I prefer smoking cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo.

/I like your version better
 
2012-12-03 02:55:52 PM  
It is indeed a good expansion, but Blizz decided to further micromanage how one gains conquest points (necessary for the better PvP gear).

It would have been nice that you could make your weekly cap any way you wanted, but now you have to join rated battlegrounds (a real time waster and PITA to organize) in order to make that cap.

So I quit over a month ago. When Blizz stops micromanaging PvP caps, I might go back.
 
2012-12-03 02:55:56 PM  
Thread summary:
WOW SUCKS!!!!!
/done
 
2012-12-03 02:56:42 PM  
Maybe you should try posting this sponsored link another half dozen times and see if I give a shiat about your crappy expansion then?

Let me know when you roll back all that B-team bullshiat you added with Cataclysm and get the game back to a state where it was fun to play. Then I'll consider resubbing. Until then, no thanks. Your game blows. I like WoW, I just don't like the version you're offering me now and I will not "try it for free at Warcraft.com" no matter how many times you pay Drew to ask me.

GoldSpider: A big reason why I took the plunge. Love how each kind of weapon has different skills; ArenaNet comes up with some pretty unique ideas like that. Crafting options seem to be rather limited early on though, at least from my point of view.


Get used to selling all the stuff you gather on the trading post that you can't use yourself to buy stuff you can use. It's not worth hanging onto unless you know for a fact you want to use it for crafting on another toon. Also, get used to doing discovery-only crafting. Aside from the initial bump to 25 so you can start using some of the mats you find in the discovery window, there's no real point to crafting anything you already know unless you actually want it for some reason.

Garko: But at least in GW2, you only have to buy the game once -Not every month.


Maybe if ArenaNet charged a monthly fee they could afford to develop their shiatty game properly.

Maybe that's a little too harsh, but between every waypoint in Orr being perpetually contested because of bugged events or just because everyone is now grinding FotM 24/7, the horribly broken Karka world event and the seemingly suddenly broken loot drop tables I'm afraid this game is already going, only 3 months in, the way Guild Wars did after about 2 years.

Anet's great at introducing new, fun ideas, but they're absolutely horrendous at maintaining the game properly and developing for it and it looks like they continue that trend with GW2. It's fun enough for what it is when it works right, but I wouldn't recommend anybody start right now unless they have a lot of patience for a lot of dumb problems.
 
2012-12-03 02:56:57 PM  

Girion47: [blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com image 550x278]


LOL!
 
2012-12-03 02:57:54 PM  
Looks fun to me, but then again I forgot my Fark Brand Hater Glasses today.
 
2012-12-03 02:58:40 PM  
If I could go back in time and tell my younger self one thing, it would be "Don't get snared by MMORPGs." It sickens me how much of my life I wasted grinding mindlessly in game after game, including WoW for a while.

If I could tell my younger self two things, the second would be to watch out for Debbie Curless.
 
2012-12-03 02:59:52 PM  
I won't accept that there were people who enjoyed being in Wailing caverns for ninety minutes, or spending a life-crushing three hours in Blackrock Depths. I can't accept that there were people who hate themselves that much.

Expansion's a lot of fun, Always stuff to do. Actually enjoying the story line, which i'm guessing all the lolpandas people didn't bother reading about (The idea that the Pandaren seek tranquility in life because of the Sha, that they appreciate the simplicity of life because of the Mantid, and that they can truly understand freedom and what is worth fighting for because of the Mogu).

The racial lore is actually pretty good. but no one gives a crap because of Jack Black (which for what its worth, those are -good- movies, so suck it.)
 
2012-12-03 03:00:31 PM  
Guild Wars 2 is a better 1-80 game.. but now that I look at it, the WvW is really a lot of small events of capping supply camps and then attacking a poorly defended area. There's really not a lot of action in WvW..imho. This is coming from a guy that's in a HUGE and very well-run guild that loves WvW..we do it right, and doing it right means not a lot of good action.. rather boring. 1-80 is awesome though.

Not a lot to do at level 80 though

Right now, fully invested in Planetside 2 though.

WoW? That's old hat.. but I do miss the raiding in WoW or Rift even. Rift was/is amazing.
 
2012-12-03 03:01:21 PM  

reillan: Tyrone Slothrop: I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.

/He also doesn't like Demon's/Dark Souls, but nobody's perfect.

You could easily like any of those without liking the rest. I personally found BG1 to be the best of the series (followed chronologically by IWD1, BG2, IWD2... Torment didn't even make my radar, because the talking skull thing was dumb)


Wait, what? You passed on PS:T, arguably one of the best CRPGs of all time because of Morte??
 
2012-12-03 03:02:54 PM  

magicgoo: Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...


I, too have been playing TOR lately. I decided to give it another try and so far I'm having a lot of fun just playing out the character story arch for the jedi knight. After that I'm gonna roll a smuggler. Then maybe a trooper. The stories are really well done, everything is voice acted, you get to make decision...

The game itself is a little shallow. The crafting system leaves much to be desired. But the game play and such is good.

They have some BS F2P garbage now, but just toss in the $15 for a one month sub to bypass all those shenanigans.
 
2012-12-03 03:03:27 PM  
So this is the WoW Kung-Fu Panda service pack?
 
2012-12-03 03:05:58 PM  
thanks..i got bored after rolling 8 toons to 80.
 
2012-12-03 03:06:42 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: I started playing EVE Online.

/yes, I'm that kind of nerd


Good luck. Don't let the harshness of space get you down.

and don't fly what you can't afford to lose!
 
2012-12-03 03:06:48 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: Guild Wars 2 is a better 1-80 game.. but now that I look at it, the WvW is really a lot of small events of capping supply camps and then attacking a poorly defended area. There's really not a lot of action in WvW..imho. This is coming from a guy that's in a HUGE and very well-run guild that loves WvW..we do it right, and doing it right means not a lot of good action.. rather boring. 1-80 is awesome though.


The problem with WvW is that there's no benefit to doing anything but zerging from point to point unless you're on a server full of people devoted to doing WvW who will listen and coordinate.

For the WoW comparison, it's like Tol Barad: a dps race against the other team. In most cases, all that really matters is that you can do the most damage the fastest so you can race from point to point faster than the other team.

It's fun enough in small doses, but there's minimal strategy so it doesn't hold my interest, personally, for very long.

Dr.Knockboots: Not a lot to do at level 80 though


Well, there's ton of big events in Orr like the... oh, wait, right... nobody does that anymore because everyone's grinding fractals.

Well, there's the new island where you can.. uh... hmm.... you know, the new island actually sort of blows what with the high-dps enemies, crap drop rates and only 7 events to do.

Well, you can always work on... uh... hmmm... right... not really any secondary activities like were promised....

Yea...

I usually just log in, do my PvP and PvE dailies and log out. Fun enough for an hour of play and you get something out of it at least.
 
2012-12-03 03:07:27 PM  
Love it or hate, you guys/gals sure do like to talk about it. Which, I believe is why there are multiple threads associated with the game.

I think some of you angry haters of the game are like that preacher in CO that was called out by his male prositute. :)
 
2012-12-03 03:09:38 PM  

Thorazine: I think some of you angry haters of the game are like that preacher in CO that was called out by his male prositute. :)


It's Fark. The snark comes natural. If they're gonna hold themselves up as the target for it over and over, and pay for the privilege, that's their problem.
 
2012-12-03 03:09:42 PM  
MMOs lost their way when they changed from open-world games where player interaction was critical and into just big multiplayer games. There's no strict need for these grind-and-raid games to be MMOs -- the other players are barely set dressing.
 
2012-12-03 03:10:25 PM  
To those who say it is more of the same, I would have to say that there is now a lot of diversity in the content now.

Pet battles
Player owned farms
Brawlers Guild
World treasure hunting
Expanded content for dedicated fisherman
Archaeology
Transmogrification system
Scenarios
World PvP objectives
Rated battlegrounds
Challenge mode dungeons
 
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