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2012-12-03 01:51:56 PM
NO...not thank you....I'll try meth.....

www.gamefront.com
 
2012-12-03 01:51:56 PM
Meh
 
2012-12-03 01:52:25 PM
No. Stop asking.
 
2012-12-03 01:52:53 PM
it should have been free to anyone that has played over 3 years.. invested enough money in it...
 
2012-12-03 01:53:02 PM
No.
 
2012-12-03 01:53:57 PM
So much butthurt already. Good, good. Let it flow through you. New world boss: The Sha of Butthurt, farmable any time there's a sponsored link on Fark.
 
2012-12-03 01:54:22 PM
g-ecx.images-amazon.com

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.
 
2012-12-03 01:54:24 PM
Can we stop whoring ourselves out to Warcraft? If it didn't work the first four times, no reason to do it a 5th.
 
2012-12-03 01:54:28 PM
I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.
 
2012-12-03 01:54:43 PM
There's about as much chance of me ever trying/playing WOW as there is of me becoming gay. Zero chance.

/absolutely nothing against gays
 
2012-12-03 01:54:48 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


SO correct
 
2012-12-03 01:55:20 PM
I'm sure I would enjoy it but I decided a while back that WoW had claimed enough of my life. I could see myself rolling a new toon on a new server and playing for 2-3 months just for kicks though. We'll see.
 
2012-12-03 01:55:46 PM

KangTheMad: Can we stop whoring ourselves out to Warcraft? If it didn't work the first four times, no reason to do it a 5th.


No.

/still plays NWN and has no room to talk.
//been clean from WOW since before BC.
 
2012-12-03 01:56:04 PM
Do I have to stand still while I cast spells?

Yes?

No thanks.

/boring combat is boring
 
2012-12-03 01:56:22 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: So much butthurt already. Good, good. Let it flow through you. New world boss: The Sha of Butthurt, farmable any time there's a sponsored link on Fark.


25000M HP easy
 
2012-12-03 01:56:54 PM
First taste is free.
 
2012-12-03 01:57:08 PM

Free Radical: Do I have to stand still while I cast spells?

Yes?

No thanks.

/boring combat is boring


Not really depending on which ones you chose.
 
2012-12-03 01:57:10 PM
Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.
 
2012-12-03 01:57:18 PM
This thing was conceived after someone at Blizzard got their hands on some really, really good weed, right?
 
2012-12-03 01:57:56 PM

KangTheMad: Can we stop whoring ourselves out to Warcraft? If it didn't work the first four times, no reason to do it a 5th.


If it hadn't worked the first four times, they wouldn't have paid for a fifth. But continue drinking that haterade. You're so right, Blizzactivision is soooo out of touch they can't read referral urls before throwing more money at clearly failed marketing.
 
2012-12-03 01:58:06 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: So much butthurt already. Good, good. Let it flow through you. New world boss: The Sha of Butthurt, farmable any time there's a sponsored link on Fark.


LOL.

If they actually put that in the game, I'd resub....
 
2012-12-03 01:58:20 PM

mitEj: LowbrowDeluxe: So much butthurt already. Good, good. Let it flow through you. New world boss: The Sha of Butthurt, farmable any time there's a sponsored link on Fark.

25000M HP easy


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and



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2012-12-03 01:58:24 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: KangTheMad: Can we stop whoring ourselves out to Warcraft? If it didn't work the first four times, no reason to do it a 5th.

No.

/still plays NWN and has no room to talk.
//been clean from WOW since before BC.


What PW do you play?

//Has never touched WoW
 
2012-12-03 01:58:51 PM
Sorry, to busy with planetside.
 
2012-12-03 01:59:08 PM
I think the intro video should be a shark jumping over Kung Fu Panda.
 
2012-12-03 01:59:25 PM
NO!
 
2012-12-03 01:59:49 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


Used to be? Except for maybe the Diablo series the rest of Blizzard's stuff has been almost entirely stolen from the Warhammer and Warhammer40k series

I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh
 
2012-12-03 02:00:21 PM
I'll stick with Planetside 2. Maybe GW2 for any RPG cravings I have but the fractals and ascended gear kinda farked that game up, royally.
 
2012-12-03 02:00:27 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: Blizzactivision is soooo out of touch


You played Diablo 3 too, huh?
 
2012-12-03 02:00:52 PM

Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.


As an April fools joke, yeah.
 
2012-12-03 02:01:04 PM
actually, bilzzard had the kung fu panda idea about 10 years ago in warcraft 3.
 
2012-12-03 02:01:37 PM
gotgame.com
 
2012-12-03 02:01:59 PM

Elroydb: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

Used to be? Except for maybe the Diablo series the rest of Blizzard's stuff has been almost entirely stolen from the Warhammer and Warhammer40k series

I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh


And Diablo III blows.

//Want to play? Get connected to the internet
///Blizzard's servers go down? Fark you, outta luck, can't play singleplayer
 
2012-12-03 02:02:00 PM

Elroydb: I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh


Yahtzee hates all MMORPG's on principal (actually I think Yahtzee hates everything that's not Silent Hill 2 - just some games he hates less than others)
 
2012-12-03 02:02:31 PM

Plant Rights Activist: I'll stick with Planetside 2. Maybe GW2 for any RPG cravings I have but the fractals and ascended gear kinda farked that game up, royally.


I love the fractals. Not to sure on the Ascended gear though. That being said, the gear is so unnecessary unless you want to do all 50 fractal levels. I had no issue getting to at least 21 without that gear.
 
2012-12-03 02:02:47 PM

Free Radical: Do I have to stand still while I cast spells?

Yes?

No thanks.

/boring combat is boring


I haven't played WoW in years, but I do remember there being a bunch of spells you could cast while running.
 
2012-12-03 02:02:50 PM
playing out of some half assed obligation as a guild leader for the past 6 years. Can't be arsed to do anything but my raids a few nights a week...GW2 and Planetside are infinitely more enjoyable.
 
2012-12-03 02:02:54 PM
"Ha-ha! Those WoW losers!"

/Steam Account --> Skyrim --> HOURS PLAYED: 560
 
2012-12-03 02:03:24 PM
Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all
 
2012-12-03 02:03:40 PM

bim1154: There's about as much chance of me ever trying/playing WOW as there is of me becoming gay. Zero chance.

/absolutely nothing against gays


You sound like you are having trouble accepting your homosexuality.
 
2012-12-03 02:03:41 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.
 
2012-12-03 02:04:06 PM
Too bad link is farkied
 
2012-12-03 02:04:07 PM

Snapper Carr: Elroydb: I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh

Yahtzee hates all MMORPG's on principal (actually I think Yahtzee hates everything that's not Silent Hill 2 - just some games he hates less than others)


He likes Just Cause 2. That makes him OK in my book.
 
2012-12-03 02:05:33 PM
I enjoyed the starter area for Pandas. Didn't try any of the high level stuff although I do have a few 85s. I left a while back. Just wanted to check out the new race/class a bit
 
2012-12-03 02:06:01 PM

Garko:


THat's what I'm playing right now, although I'm getting kind of bored of it.
 
2012-12-03 02:06:06 PM

Jubeebee: Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.

As an April fools joke, yeah.


Ummm, wrong.

But even if you were right, cow men, the other cow men, the bison version of cow men, the yak version, bear men, some other bear men, green tusked men, green and blue big tusked men with rasta accents, fish men, space goat squid men, and somehow this is over the line? What's that? You just follow whatever the internet tells you to like or hate? Gotcha.
 
2012-12-03 02:06:39 PM

Jubeebee: Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.

As an April fools joke, yeah.


Actually, Pandaria was supposed to be the expansion after BC.
 
2012-12-03 02:07:20 PM
blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-12-03 02:07:25 PM
I never played anything WarCraft past 2 :\
 
2012-12-03 02:07:59 PM

carnifex2005: Plant Rights Activist: I'll stick with Planetside 2. Maybe GW2 for any RPG cravings I have but the fractals and ascended gear kinda farked that game up, royally.

I love the fractals. Not to sure on the Ascended gear though. That being said, the gear is so unnecessary unless you want to do all 50 fractal levels. I had no issue getting to at least 21 without that gear.


Eh, they're kinda fun. Agony really isn't a problem until you hit lvl 20+. The biggest problem I have with them is finding a group for them. I don't play peak hours and my server is usually pretty empty so I can't even reach overflow to use the LFG site that someone made. It sucks being stuck in your own servers LA unable to join other people that want to do the same difficulty level as you.
 
2012-12-03 02:08:27 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: KangTheMad: Can we stop whoring ourselves out to Warcraft? If it didn't work the first four times, no reason to do it a 5th.

If it hadn't worked the first four times, they wouldn't have paid for a fifth. But continue drinking that haterade. You're so right, Blizzactivision is soooo out of touch they can't read referral urls before throwing more money at clearly failed marketing.


Unless they paid for this ahead of time through Christmas time. You wouldn't see this crap Reddit, that's for sure. That being said, they came out with a free trial of MoP pretty damn quickly. Far quicker than I ever remember.
 
2012-12-03 02:09:17 PM
They just painted the hamster wheel a different color; same thing, different texture maps.
 
2012-12-03 02:09:55 PM
Played about 2 years. And this expac finally made me pull the plug. Too many changes, too many dailys. Just not interesting anymore. And the gear-grind just doesn't have the "fun" that I used to feel. But each to their own, really.
 
2012-12-03 02:09:57 PM

Hobodeluxe: actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.


Hydralisks were in Warcraft 3 too. Maybe they should have an expansion for those too.

Actually... that would be a really interesting cross-over as the franchise slowly dies to prop it up for a little while longer.
 
2012-12-03 02:10:05 PM

Hobodeluxe: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.


So rehashing a 10-year-old joke is proof of their originality?

Sorry, I'm actually not a WOW hater. But I AM a hater of their Kung Fu Panda TV campaign. Jesus Christ, I play lots of video games and I was still confused about what it was actually for.
 
2012-12-03 02:10:15 PM

Plant Rights Activist: carnifex2005: Plant Rights Activist: I'll stick with Planetside 2. Maybe GW2 for any RPG cravings I have but the fractals and ascended gear kinda farked that game up, royally.

I love the fractals. Not to sure on the Ascended gear though. That being said, the gear is so unnecessary unless you want to do all 50 fractal levels. I had no issue getting to at least 21 without that gear.

Eh, they're kinda fun. Agony really isn't a problem until you hit lvl 20+. The biggest problem I have with them is finding a group for them. I don't play peak hours and my server is usually pretty empty so I can't even reach overflow to use the LFG site that someone made. It sucks being stuck in your own servers LA unable to join other people that want to do the same difficulty level as you.


Yeah, GW2 definitely needs 1) a LFG that puts in in the range of people doing the same fractals or 2) allow people the choice to play the fractal level of the highest person in the group.
 
2012-12-03 02:10:20 PM
Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...

a1.s6img.com
 
2012-12-03 02:10:35 PM
I'd try it, but my machine barely ran Cata. I don't feel like shelling out for a new rig just to get sucked back into a 20/hr a week raid schedule.
 
2012-12-03 02:10:41 PM

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


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2012-12-03 02:10:45 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


The problem is that you have to get a character to level 85 to get there (outside of the panda starting area). My only experiment with "speed leveling" had a rogue to 80 in three days played, over the course of a few weeks (day job dontcha know) using every heirloom possible, and experience in the game. A person who'd never played before would have no heirloom gear or knowledge of the bugs...er...idiosyncrasies of the game.
 
2012-12-03 02:11:48 PM

Garko: [gotgame.com image 500x320]


^^^ THIS
 
2012-12-03 02:12:43 PM

Girion47: [blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com image 550x278]


That one got a good chuckle. Although honestly, everything except the story was a serious improvement in cata. And wotlk had some definite improvements over BC. I'd probably put the images in order: 2 3 1 4, even though that makes no actual sense in terms of the painting. Personal jury is still out on MoP. It might be cata all over again and while a serious step up technically fall short on story. But even if it does, pet battles alone were worth the price of the expac for me, and will probably take up enough time to last me till next expac.

/#1 tamer on my server
//#211 worldwide last I checked
///Probably the lamest thing I've ever accomplished
////chicks dig pokemanz, right? Right?
 
2012-12-03 02:12:57 PM
The Blizzard cash-cow is starting to give more 'Moo' than 'Milk' these days, if they have to resort to "Look!! Pandas!!"
 
2012-12-03 02:13:04 PM
Holy paid advertisement link Batman!
 
2012-12-03 02:13:14 PM

cgraves67: Garko:

THat's what I'm playing right now, although I'm getting kind of bored of it.


Not me - not yet.
I have an 80 and have no desire to do any of that fractal nonsense. I like the exploration aspect and spent the last two day just wandering and seeing huge areas and events i missed on my way to 80.

Lots of alts.

LOTS of alts.....
 
2012-12-03 02:14:21 PM

Yogimus: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

SO correct


The pandarians were introduced in like Warcraft 1 or 2.

So... Not really copying kungfu panda wife the contet predates the movie.
 
2012-12-03 02:14:55 PM

Snapper Carr: Elroydb: I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh

Yahtzee hates all MMORPG's on principal (actually I think Yahtzee hates everything that's not Silent Hill 2 - just some games he hates less than others)


Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Hobodeluxe: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.


Why would it matter who thought of it first? "We need animal to do martial arts stuff with - quick name something Asian" "Uhhh, PANDAS!" Isn't exactly the peak of creativity either way. Besides, weren't Pandaren originally samurai until Chinese players got buttmad over a Chinese symbol being mixed with a Japanese symbol and Blizzard quickly rolled over and went "oh, do they look like samurai? Uh, we totally meant, *pssst* "Hey, Steve, what's Chinese fighting called?" kung-fu. Yeah, they're Kung-Fu...ers."
 
2012-12-03 02:14:59 PM

bim1154: There's about as much chance of me ever trying/playing WOW as there is of me becoming gay. Zero chance.

/absolutely nothing against gays


If you've never held something against gays, give it a try!1!!
 
2012-12-03 02:15:26 PM
I thought the questing in Cataclysm was excellent and I was thoroughly enjoying it until the point where I hit max level and the dreaded "what now" hit me. All my friends were like "omg u come raid now!" and I quit playing.
 
2012-12-03 02:15:43 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


Which is why I won't try it. If you play WoW solo, it's just the same old shiat. You run around, find some shiat, or kill some shiat and collect gold and XP. In a month, I'd cap my character and be stuck just repeating the same old solo shiat over and over again. That's not really fun. If you play WoW in a group, it's way more fun. You get together, work through figuring out how to kill bosses and keeping your gear and inventory up and whatnot. It's hella fun. Except it requires you to be on a schedule and you have to wait for other people and if you miss one, leave early or have actual real life stuff things to do, the group is pissed at you and so on.

Ever since I quit WoW I began playing video games that when I feel like playing, I play. When I feel like quitting, I quit. What a crazy idea.

I got no beef with you playing WoW. Why are you so upset some people might not like the "lifestyle" it requires to play?
 
2012-12-03 02:16:07 PM
People arguing "WoW had pandas before Kung Fu Panda!" miss the point. KFP totally poisoned the well for pandas, they screwed them squarely into the kids demographic. Chicken, egg, who cares, kung fu pandas are for little children and trying to turn them into a playable character in WoW was a mistake. The game was already being accused of aiming for a younger demographic before Mists came out.
 
2012-12-03 02:16:11 PM
Husby just got me the collector's edition, after I stopped playing in August due to financial constraints. Having fun so far, but I may end up switching guilds because mine has withered away into having only 4 active players.
 
2012-12-03 02:16:58 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


If I were cynical, I'd say this WoW release was less about a lack of creativity, and more a deliberate attempt to pander to China and Chinese players. But only if I were cynical.
 
2012-12-03 02:16:58 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


Any praise I've heard about MoP is from the players who predominately play WoW for the PvP.
 
2012-12-03 02:19:45 PM

Hobodeluxe: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.


Panda Khan first appeared in 1985

farm3.static.flickr.com
media.comicvine.com


Also, WoW sucks. If I want to be addicted, in denial, and become a social pariah I'll take bath salts.
 
2012-12-03 02:20:36 PM

fozziewazzi: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

If I were cynical, I'd say this WoW release was less about a lack of creativity, and more a deliberate attempt to pander to China and Chinese players. But only if I were cynical.


Quite the opposite, actually. Blizzard was all set to start development on Pandaria right after BC, but held off for fear of offending Asian players.
 
2012-12-03 02:21:07 PM

Garko: cgraves67: Garko:

THat's what I'm playing right now, although I'm getting kind of bored of it.

Not me - not yet.
I have an 80 and have no desire to do any of that fractal nonsense. I like the exploration aspect and spent the last two day just wandering and seeing huge areas and events i missed on my way to 80.

Lots of alts.

LOTS of alts.....


I don't have an 80 yet and I do enjoy exploring, but the levelling is already getting pretty repetitive. My server must be losing population too, because I hardly ever see any players around to do dynamic events with. They must all be dungeon crawling or something. I'm pretty casual and I don't have time to run through dungeons.
 
2012-12-03 02:22:42 PM

aevorea: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

Any praise I've heard about MoP is from the players who predominately play WoW for the PvP.


Exactly. It's anther example of Blizzards new philosophy of 'You will play the game the way WE want, not the way YOU want'.

The current push is for PvP in everything, and Pandaria is, from what I understand, aimed specifically for PvP.

This cost them a lot of loyal players who refuse to PvP.
 
2012-12-03 02:23:29 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: People arguing "WoW had pandas before Kung Fu Panda!" miss the point. KFP totally poisoned the well for pandas, they screwed them squarely into the kids demographic. Chicken, egg, who cares, kung fu pandas are for little children and trying to turn them into a playable character in WoW was a mistake. The game was already being accused of aiming for a younger demographic before Mists came out.


You blame them? They tapped out the normal market already. People either played and left, will never play, or are still playing. Outside of pushing for retention by just coming out with, "something new, anything new!" the only place to go is younger. I imagine I'm squarely within their original demographic and there's no advertising campaign on Earth that's going to make me go, "You know what sounds fun? Jumping in to something with 8 years of ecosystem built on it; where everyone I knew who played it quit already and even if they didn't, would be so severely beyond me that it wouldn't be fun for any of us." I get the feeling that's not a unique position.
 
2012-12-03 02:24:10 PM

ProfessorOhki: Snapper Carr: Elroydb: I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh

Yahtzee hates all MMORPG's on principal (actually I think Yahtzee hates everything that's not Silent Hill 2 - just some games he hates less than others)

Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Hobodeluxe: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.

Why would it matter who thought of it first? "We need animal to do martial arts stuff with - quick name something Asian" "Uhhh, PANDAS!" Isn't exactly the peak of creativity either way. Besides, weren't Pandaren originally samurai until Chinese players got buttmad over a Chinese symbol being mixed with a Japanese symbol and Blizzard quickly rolled over and went "oh, do they look like samurai? Uh, we totally meant, *pssst* "Hey, Steve, what's Chinese fighting called?" kung-fu. Yeah, they're Kung-Fu...ers."


And the panda in Frozen Throne was an optional character in the add-on campaign. It's not like it was part of some grand scheme that culminated in this expansion.
 
2012-12-03 02:24:12 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


How about about dailies? Did they add more dailies? Because we could use more lvl 90 dailies!

I got to exalted with the Tillers, the Anglers, Lorewalkers and Order of the Cloud Serpent. I got midway through revered with Golden Lotus and Klaxxi. I did the Shado-Pan and August Celestial Dailies once each, and then I just said fark this. At one point I had 2500 valor points, but couldn't spend them on anything because my rep wasn't high enough with the quartermasters that sold gear. I made a monk just before the new patch came out and I think I'll spend time leveling that up. I figure why work so hard getting to exalted when in two years they'll probably simplify the requirements.
 
2012-12-03 02:24:45 PM
If I want to be addicted, in denial, and become a social pariah I'll take bath salts.


I'd say the fact that you know of this obscure Panda Khan comic book combine with your comment is proof enough that you're already an addicted, in denial, social pariah, just not due to WoW obviously.
 
2012-12-03 02:25:18 PM

ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.


Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:

Silent Hill 2
Deus Ex
Killer 7
Shadows of the Colossus
Portal
Saints Row 2
Painkiller
Psychonauts
Bioshock
No More Heroes
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Batman: Arkham Asylum
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money
God of War
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario
Final Fantasy VI (shocking isn't it?)
Chrono Trigger (I think hell just froze over twice)
Tom Clancy's HAWX
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Dead Rising 1 and 2
COD4
Infamous and Prototype
House of the Dead series
Assassin's Creed 2
Guitar Hero 1 & 2 and the Rock Bands
Minecraft
Beyond Good and Evil
Earthbound
Prince of Persia (the new ones)
Team Fortress 2
Metro 2033
Serious Sam
System Shock 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Gears of War 2
Grim Fandango
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Metroid Prime

He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.
 
2012-12-03 02:25:18 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


This.
 
2012-12-03 02:25:53 PM
According to Warcraft lore, there should be two more expansions after this one and it's all over. According to Activision/Blizzard's lore there will be expansions until the golden goose cooks itself.
 
2012-12-03 02:25:57 PM

fozziewazzi: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

If I were cynical, I'd say this WoW release was less about a lack of creativity, and more a deliberate attempt to pander to China and Chinese players. But only if I were cynical.


The Chinese don't play. They either use a pure hourly play method (which conveniently lets bliz count each hourly customer who tries it once and never agian as a subscriber), or use clientless hacked boxes for farming.

There's not a huge reason to pander to them. Any more than a John Wayne deep in the west raping women expansion would pander to Americans. If anything it probably panders to Americans, who have an enduring obsession with 'kungfu mysticism' and other bullshiat fake Asian themes. And katanas.
 
2012-12-03 02:26:25 PM

Garko: [gotgame.com image 500x320]


I'm dabbling in that, but haven't gotten very far yet. Right now I want to build up some cash and learn more about the kind of gear and build I should be working towards for my playstyle.
 
2012-12-03 02:26:48 PM

amindtat: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

How about about dailies? Did they add more dailies? Because we could use more lvl 90 dailies!

I got to exalted with the Tillers, the Anglers, Lorewalkers and Order of the Cloud Serpent. I got midway through revered with Golden Lotus and Klaxxi. I did the Shado-Pan and August Celestial Dailies once each, and then I just said fark this. At one point I had 2500 valor points, but couldn't spend them on anything because my rep wasn't high enough with the quartermasters that sold gear. I made a monk just before the new patch came out and I think I'll spend time leveling that up. I figure why work so hard getting to exalted when in two years they'll probably simplify the requirements.


Already nerfed.

I went casual for family reasons and there's still a wackton of content here. MoP is a pretty good expansion, no lie, but here's the thing: Everyone who cares already plays the game.
 
2012-12-03 02:27:13 PM
As someone who plays games solo, and plays to experience and finish a story, WoW could never hold my interest.
 
2012-12-03 02:28:08 PM
The Pandas were a joke easter egg in WC3. Blizzard just finally ran out of races in the actual lore to base expansions around and had to resort to fleshing out a jokey cliche. It's pretty sad.
 
2012-12-03 02:28:09 PM
The only regret i have of not playing is that i can't make two panda monks called "fookewe and fookmei"
 
2012-12-03 02:28:18 PM
No, fark you, you're a soulless shell of the company you used to be, and I told you the instant you started up with that 'RealID' bullshiat that if you kept it up that we were done having any sort of monetary transactions, ever, and I meant it.

WoW is nothing now but a hideous gear treadmill dressed up in 2004 era graphics, where lore is routinely butchered and offered up as sacrifices to the 'Rule of Cool'. It's a casual-ified babby-tier piece of shiat that my mother in law quit because it got too easy.

My MOTHER IN LAW.

fark you and your Kung-Fu Panda grinder, we're done.
 
2012-12-03 02:29:44 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


I tired it, and I hated it. why? it's too gdamn easy. I rand the wailing caverns with a group in 20 friggin minutes. that used to take us an hour and a half of careful, difficult combat. now it's a smash and grab job where half the people won't talk to you. recancelled subscription, never gonna bother again.
 
2012-12-03 02:30:17 PM

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:
...
He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.


Oh, I know; he does have pretty solid tastes. It's just fun to take shots at his antagonistic approach to the whole thing.
 
2012-12-03 02:30:40 PM
I give it a 2/5.


Which is not worth $15 a month.
 
2012-12-03 02:31:36 PM
I started playing EVE Online.

/yes, I'm that kind of nerd
 
2012-12-03 02:31:49 PM
i.imgur.com

How many sponsored links are we going to have to put up with for this game?

This is... what, the second time this week?
 
2012-12-03 02:32:46 PM
Ghostery told me I couldn't go there.

I'll take its advice.
 
2012-12-03 02:33:20 PM

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 292x172]

How many sponsored links are we going to have to put up with for this game?

This is... what, the second time this week?


What do you expect? Blizzard is bleeding subscribers or they wouldn't need to advertise.
 
2012-12-03 02:33:43 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: Jubeebee: Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.

As an April fools joke, yeah.

Ummm, wrong.

But even if you were right, cow men, the other cow men, the bison version of cow men, the yak version, bear men, some other bear men, green tusked men, green and blue big tusked men with rasta accents, fish men, space goat squid men, and somehow this is over the line? What's that? You just follow whatever the internet tells you to like or hate? Gotcha.


The pandaren started as a creation of Samwise Didier and an April Fool's joke, but they got a massive response from Warcraft fans...When the expansion to Warcraft III was announced, the Pandaren Brewmaster was added as a neutral hero. 

I played WC3 for a long time; I remember all of this nonsense.

/had an awesome tower rush build using a Farseer 1st and a Panda 2nd
//yeah, I was one of those type of players
///could get you with wyvrens too
 
2012-12-03 02:33:50 PM
Everyone knows this game peaked with Warcraft 2 in 1996.

Glope-tar!
 
2012-12-03 02:34:11 PM

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:

Silent Hill 2
Deus Ex
Killer 7
Shadows of the Colossus
Portal
Saints Row 2
Painkiller
Psychonauts
Bioshock
No More Heroes
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Batman: Arkham Asylum
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money
God of War
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario
Final Fantasy VI (shocking isn't it?)
Chrono Trigger (I think hell just froze over twice)
Tom Clancy's HAWX
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Dead Rising 1 and 2
COD4
Infamous and Prototype
House of the Dead series
Assassin's Creed 2
Guitar Hero 1 & 2 and the Rock Bands
Minecraft
Beyond Good and Evil
Earthbound
Prince of Persia (the new ones)
Team Fortress 2
Metro 2033
Serious Sam
System Shock 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Gears of War 2
Grim Fandango
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Metroid Prime

He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.


I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.
 
2012-12-03 02:34:47 PM

fozziewazzi: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

If I were cynical, I'd say this WoW release was less about a lack of creativity, and more a deliberate attempt to pander to China and Chinese players. But only if I were cynical.


Especially if you account for the fact that the pandas were originally going to be samurai type characters but they changed it after certain demographics complained that there are no pandas in Japan.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:31 PM

Lego_Addict: I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.


That's just his review style. He even directly addresses it in one of them.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:47 PM

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


I'd sooner play solitaire til dawn, with the class of '51.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:56 PM
just because you keep pimping it, doesn't make it worth my money...
 
2012-12-03 02:36:27 PM

Treygreen13:
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money


Filterpwn level: EPIC

This is an absolutely true story, you can choose to believe it or not, but it doesn't matter to me. I know someone who was so addicted to WoW that more than once a friend of his came over and farked his wife on the bed directly behind his computer chair, but the guy was so zoned into the raid or whatever he was doing that he never turned around and caught them. He didn't hear anything because he had noise-cancelling headphones on, and I don't think the guy ever actually knew what happened.

I am glad I stopped playing WoW a few years before I heard this story. I don't think I could ever do anything that addictive ever again.

/This is not such a CSB actually--this guy is now broke, divorced, and pretty much on disability for life. Definitely no Hollywood ending here.
 
2012-12-03 02:36:48 PM

Jubeebee: LowbrowDeluxe: Jubeebee: Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

The pandaren started as a creation of Samwise Didier and an April Fool's joke, but they got a massive response from Warcraft fans...When the expansion to Warcraft III was announced, the Pandaren Brewmaster was added as a neutral hero. 


except if you read lower in this same farking thread you'd see that it didn't start with Samwise, he basically copied Panda Khan.
 
2012-12-03 02:36:56 PM

ProfessorOhki: Oh, I know; he does have pretty solid tastes. It's just fun to take shots at his antagonistic approach to the whole thing.


Yeah, it's strange to see him just glow about a game.

He really liked Minecraft, so much so that his review was just him telling everyone about it like a "Let's Play" video.
 
2012-12-03 02:37:30 PM
Oh, and since I'm at work and can't actually click any game related links...what's the special now? Are they letting you download a free copy of the game and hoping to hook you on the $15 a month? Or do they still want you to pay $60 up front and then they "give" you a few months of free playtime?
 
2012-12-03 02:38:30 PM

Hobodeluxe: I enjoyed the starter area for Pandas. Didn't try any of the high level stuff although I do have a few 85s. I left a while back. Just wanted to check out the new race/class a bit


As a casual/social WoW player, I'm really enjoying Pandaria. Burning Crusade was the last XPAC I got this much enjoyment out of (and although it's argued that BC was very unforgiving for casual players, the fact was that I had something to do every day that I logged in, even if it was just struggling with the 5 man content).

Anyways, LK & Cataclysm both had the same issue for me. I burned through the available content way too quickly, and the only things available to me were watching paint dry (lich king), or doing horribly boring dailies over and over (Cataclysm).

MoP only has "too many dailies" if you are obsessed with doing them all at the same time. If you're patient enough to figure out which faction(s) you want to work on, and just do one or two sets of dailies a day, it's fine.

I really enjoy the storyline so far. I thought Anduin Wrynn was a twerp in previous expansions, but I like what they've done with the character and it makes me interested to see what else they'll do with him. I like the pandas too (some more than others, Chen Stormstout is pretty cool).

They've fixed the difficulty of most LFR instances. The first one is pretty laughable (and boring because it's so laughable), but the other ones have some actual gameplay to them now (even if it's lower difficulty than organized raids, it's enough gameplay to make them enjoyable to run. Dragon Soul LFR made me want to claw my eyes out).

My only complaints are about the currencies (justice points are just this side of useless, and valor points don't come fast enough for the people who need them to qualify for LFR).

And mock the pokemon style pet battles as you like, they're still fun and you can get some cool mini pets.

I don't feel obligated to play WoW for ridiculous amounts of time anymore, and I can login and have a wide variety of stuff open to me based on what suits my mood (daily quests for rep, heroic dungeons or LFR, challenge mode dungeons, pet battles, etc). The quests were enjoyable, and I have enough to do on my main character so that I don't feel it necessary to level up 7 alts (and get bored by doing the same quests over and over).

Others may have some complaint, but I've really enjoyed this expansion.
 
2012-12-03 02:39:07 PM

Greil: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

I tired it, and I hated it. why? it's too gdamn easy. I rand the wailing caverns with a group in 20 friggin minutes. that used to take us an hour and a half of careful, difficult combat. now it's a smash and grab job where half the people won't talk to you. recancelled subscription, never gonna bother again.


This. I guess the point of classic dungeons now is to just lvl your toon up REALLY fast with little effort. I ran my new monk through one of the new Scarlet Monastery dungeons. There's one quest, and you have to pick up two swords and stab the corpse of the boss with them at the end. Well by group rolled through it so fast, i never even saw the first sword and you can't pick up the second without the first. Once we killed the boss and the group disbanded, I went back and got the swords, but by that point you were not longer able to stab the corpse. The story line might have been nice if I had time to actually absorb it.
 
2012-12-03 02:39:22 PM
lol, whut?
 
2012-12-03 02:39:41 PM

GoldSpider: Garko: [gotgame.com image 500x320]

I'm dabbling in that, but haven't gotten very far yet. Right now I want to build up some cash and learn more about the kind of gear and build I should be working towards for my playstyle.


But at least in GW2, you only have to buy the game once -Not every month.
 
2012-12-03 02:41:02 PM

Lego_Addict: I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.


Those are just the ones he mentions positively. No telling what else out there he likes. I bet he'd like Mount & Blade: Warband if he played it.
 
2012-12-03 02:42:14 PM

Lego_Addict: He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.

I wouldn't have thought his list would be that big! I think I've seen every review he has ever done (for zero punctuation) and they are almost all negative.


Well, sometimes it's hard to tell that he likes a game, because he still finds things that are wrong with it or that could be improved.

For instance, that list didn't include "Spec Ops: The Line". He had great things to say about it, although he wasn't a huge fan of the game play and was a little reflective that a game with that much emotional depth may not really be something you can enjoy playing.
 
2012-12-03 02:42:57 PM

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Oh, I know; he does have pretty solid tastes. It's just fun to take shots at his antagonistic approach to the whole thing.

Yeah, it's strange to see him just glow about a game.

He really liked Minecraft, so much so that his review was just him telling everyone about it like a "Let's Play" video.


I hear he's so addicted to the genre, he snorts the sand right out of the box. True story.
 
2012-12-03 02:43:34 PM

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:

Silent Hill 2
Deus Ex
Killer 7
Shadows of the Colossus
Portal
Saints Row 2
Painkiller
Psychonauts
Bioshock
No More Heroes
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Batman: Arkham Asylum
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money
God of War
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario
Final Fantasy VI (shocking isn't it?)
Chrono Trigger (I think hell just froze over twice)
Tom Clancy's HAWX
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Dead Rising 1 and 2
COD4
Infamous and Prototype
House of the Dead series
Assassin's Creed 2
Guitar Hero 1 & 2 and the Rock Bands
Minecraft
Beyond Good and Evil
Earthbound
Prince of Persia (the new ones)
Team Fortress 2
Metro 2033
Serious Sam
System Shock 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Gears of War 2
Grim Fandango
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Metroid Prime

He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.


I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.

/He also doesn't like Demon's/Dark Souls, but nobody's perfect.
 
2012-12-03 02:44:08 PM

Garko: But at least in GW2, you only have to buy the game once -Not every month.


A big reason why I took the plunge. Love how each kind of weapon has different skills; ArenaNet comes up with some pretty unique ideas like that. Crafting options seem to be rather limited early on though, at least from my point of view.
 
2012-12-03 02:44:41 PM

GrogSmash: aevorea: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

Any praise I've heard about MoP is from the players who predominately play WoW for the PvP.

Exactly. It's anther example of Blizzards new philosophy of 'You will play the game the way WE want, not the way YOU want'.

The current push is for PvP in everything, and Pandaria is, from what I understand, aimed specifically for PvP.

This cost them a lot of loyal players who refuse to PvP.


That doesn't make sense. WoW still has PvE and PvP realms. If you play on a PvE realm (as I do), there is no requirement to engage in PvP at all.

I think what the poster meant is that on the PvP realms, the zones and quest hubs in Pandaria have been structured in such a way as to encourage PvP naturally. There aren't many tangible rewards for it (like the bonus for capturing towers in hellfire Peninsula), but they've set things up so that human nature encourages some conflict (Like if you're alliance, and you see some horde guy fighting a goat perilously close to the edge of a cliff... the temptation to swing by and use a knockback spell is going to be too high to pass up).

With the emphasis on daily quests for rep gains, it's also going to put horde an alliance into the same areas of the map with higher frequency (and thus lead to more conflicts).

Again though, this only affects players who are signing up to be on a PvP realm (in which case I would assume that's exactly the kind of battles they want).
 
2012-12-03 02:44:44 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.


He may like those. My list isn't really all-inclusive, just cobbled together from a couple different lists people have put together.
 
2012-12-03 02:45:47 PM
WHAT!?!!!!!111!?? WHEN DID THIS COME OUT??? FARK U BLIZZARD FOR JUST NOW TELLING ME!!
 
2012-12-03 02:45:49 PM
If Fark must insist upon using sponsored links at least dont tell us. If we dont know we wont care.
 
2012-12-03 02:46:33 PM

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


That don't bother me at all
 
2012-12-03 02:47:39 PM

farkingatwork: What do you expect? Blizzard is bleeding subscribers or they wouldn't need to advertise.


haven't played since 1 month into cataclysm's release (wherst. expansion. evar), and blizzard just sent me an email this morning with a free 10 days for mists.

desperate or savvy?

/i think i can resist.
 
2012-12-03 02:48:00 PM
My name is cyks and I'm a recovering addict.

I played WoW for a few years, starting soon after it's launch and through BC before I was able to break the addiction.

Thankfully, quitting WoW was one of the easiest things I could do. The game was great when it first debuted... back when the quests and goals actually meant something and seeing players walking around in their tier sets was actually impressive. Unfortunately, with BC (and everything since), Blizzard began lowering the requirements more and more, made epic items far easier to obtain, and basically dumbed down the entire game. Why bother getting a group of 20 players together to raid when you could simply farm reputation and get comparable gear? Why bother farming rep when you could simply wait for a holiday event and get the special drops then?

I enjoyed the game for the long grinds, having to work with others to figure things out, the social aspects, and where only the few elite would have top gear, but, by changing it for the lowest common denominator, Blizzard took out everything that I found enjoyable.

I'm glad to be done with it.
 
2012-12-03 02:48:13 PM

GoldSpider: A big reason why I took the plunge. Love how each kind of weapon has different skills; ArenaNet comes up with some pretty unique ideas like that. Crafting options seem to be rather limited early on though, at least from my point of view.


One thing I didn't like about the crafting in GW2 in terms of weapons/armor while leveling was that by the time I'd farmed up all the necessary resources for a weapon, I would have already out-leveled it. And when I go to the market to finally buy the resources for the weapon... there it is at (basically) cost.

I ended up just getting to max level off drops and buying weapon upgrades for a pittance on the market, and then saving up all my cash and buying the mats to level my skill then buy all the mats for my ultimate weapons.

Cooking was good, though. I did that and it kept me interested hunting down ingredients and buffing myself.
 
2012-12-03 02:48:20 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.

/He also doesn't like Demon's/Dark Souls, but nobody's perfect.


You could easily like any of those without liking the rest. I personally found BG1 to be the best of the series (followed chronologically by IWD1, BG2, IWD2... Torment didn't even make my radar, because the talking skull thing was dumb)
 
2012-12-03 02:49:13 PM
This pretty much summed up my reaction to the headline as a former WoW player:
 
2012-12-03 02:50:55 PM
Edit: Too big, try here.
 
2012-12-03 02:51:01 PM

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 292x172]

How many sponsored links are we going to have to put up with for this game?

This is... what, the second time this week?


Drew's got to pay for his beer somehow
 
2012-12-03 02:52:10 PM

DECMATH: ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.

I'd sooner play solitaire til dawn, with the class a deck of 51.


I prefer smoking cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo.

/I like your version better
 
2012-12-03 02:55:52 PM
It is indeed a good expansion, but Blizz decided to further micromanage how one gains conquest points (necessary for the better PvP gear).

It would have been nice that you could make your weekly cap any way you wanted, but now you have to join rated battlegrounds (a real time waster and PITA to organize) in order to make that cap.

So I quit over a month ago. When Blizz stops micromanaging PvP caps, I might go back.
 
2012-12-03 02:55:56 PM
Thread summary:
WOW SUCKS!!!!!
/done
 
2012-12-03 02:56:42 PM
Maybe you should try posting this sponsored link another half dozen times and see if I give a shiat about your crappy expansion then?

Let me know when you roll back all that B-team bullshiat you added with Cataclysm and get the game back to a state where it was fun to play. Then I'll consider resubbing. Until then, no thanks. Your game blows. I like WoW, I just don't like the version you're offering me now and I will not "try it for free at Warcraft.com" no matter how many times you pay Drew to ask me.

GoldSpider: A big reason why I took the plunge. Love how each kind of weapon has different skills; ArenaNet comes up with some pretty unique ideas like that. Crafting options seem to be rather limited early on though, at least from my point of view.


Get used to selling all the stuff you gather on the trading post that you can't use yourself to buy stuff you can use. It's not worth hanging onto unless you know for a fact you want to use it for crafting on another toon. Also, get used to doing discovery-only crafting. Aside from the initial bump to 25 so you can start using some of the mats you find in the discovery window, there's no real point to crafting anything you already know unless you actually want it for some reason.

Garko: But at least in GW2, you only have to buy the game once -Not every month.


Maybe if ArenaNet charged a monthly fee they could afford to develop their shiatty game properly.

Maybe that's a little too harsh, but between every waypoint in Orr being perpetually contested because of bugged events or just because everyone is now grinding FotM 24/7, the horribly broken Karka world event and the seemingly suddenly broken loot drop tables I'm afraid this game is already going, only 3 months in, the way Guild Wars did after about 2 years.

Anet's great at introducing new, fun ideas, but they're absolutely horrendous at maintaining the game properly and developing for it and it looks like they continue that trend with GW2. It's fun enough for what it is when it works right, but I wouldn't recommend anybody start right now unless they have a lot of patience for a lot of dumb problems.
 
2012-12-03 02:56:57 PM

Girion47: [blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com image 550x278]


LOL!
 
2012-12-03 02:57:54 PM
Looks fun to me, but then again I forgot my Fark Brand Hater Glasses today.
 
2012-12-03 02:58:40 PM
If I could go back in time and tell my younger self one thing, it would be "Don't get snared by MMORPGs." It sickens me how much of my life I wasted grinding mindlessly in game after game, including WoW for a while.

If I could tell my younger self two things, the second would be to watch out for Debbie Curless.
 
2012-12-03 02:59:52 PM
I won't accept that there were people who enjoyed being in Wailing caverns for ninety minutes, or spending a life-crushing three hours in Blackrock Depths. I can't accept that there were people who hate themselves that much.

Expansion's a lot of fun, Always stuff to do. Actually enjoying the story line, which i'm guessing all the lolpandas people didn't bother reading about (The idea that the Pandaren seek tranquility in life because of the Sha, that they appreciate the simplicity of life because of the Mantid, and that they can truly understand freedom and what is worth fighting for because of the Mogu).

The racial lore is actually pretty good. but no one gives a crap because of Jack Black (which for what its worth, those are -good- movies, so suck it.)
 
2012-12-03 03:00:31 PM
Guild Wars 2 is a better 1-80 game.. but now that I look at it, the WvW is really a lot of small events of capping supply camps and then attacking a poorly defended area. There's really not a lot of action in WvW..imho. This is coming from a guy that's in a HUGE and very well-run guild that loves WvW..we do it right, and doing it right means not a lot of good action.. rather boring. 1-80 is awesome though.

Not a lot to do at level 80 though

Right now, fully invested in Planetside 2 though.

WoW? That's old hat.. but I do miss the raiding in WoW or Rift even. Rift was/is amazing.
 
2012-12-03 03:01:21 PM

reillan: Tyrone Slothrop: I'm surprised that Baldur's Gate I/II and Planescape: Torment aren't on there.

/He also doesn't like Demon's/Dark Souls, but nobody's perfect.

You could easily like any of those without liking the rest. I personally found BG1 to be the best of the series (followed chronologically by IWD1, BG2, IWD2... Torment didn't even make my radar, because the talking skull thing was dumb)


Wait, what? You passed on PS:T, arguably one of the best CRPGs of all time because of Morte??
 
2012-12-03 03:02:54 PM

magicgoo: Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...


I, too have been playing TOR lately. I decided to give it another try and so far I'm having a lot of fun just playing out the character story arch for the jedi knight. After that I'm gonna roll a smuggler. Then maybe a trooper. The stories are really well done, everything is voice acted, you get to make decision...

The game itself is a little shallow. The crafting system leaves much to be desired. But the game play and such is good.

They have some BS F2P garbage now, but just toss in the $15 for a one month sub to bypass all those shenanigans.
 
2012-12-03 03:03:27 PM
So this is the WoW Kung-Fu Panda service pack?
 
2012-12-03 03:05:58 PM
thanks..i got bored after rolling 8 toons to 80.
 
2012-12-03 03:06:42 PM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: I started playing EVE Online.

/yes, I'm that kind of nerd


Good luck. Don't let the harshness of space get you down.

and don't fly what you can't afford to lose!
 
2012-12-03 03:06:48 PM

Dr.Knockboots: Guild Wars 2 is a better 1-80 game.. but now that I look at it, the WvW is really a lot of small events of capping supply camps and then attacking a poorly defended area. There's really not a lot of action in WvW..imho. This is coming from a guy that's in a HUGE and very well-run guild that loves WvW..we do it right, and doing it right means not a lot of good action.. rather boring. 1-80 is awesome though.


The problem with WvW is that there's no benefit to doing anything but zerging from point to point unless you're on a server full of people devoted to doing WvW who will listen and coordinate.

For the WoW comparison, it's like Tol Barad: a dps race against the other team. In most cases, all that really matters is that you can do the most damage the fastest so you can race from point to point faster than the other team.

It's fun enough in small doses, but there's minimal strategy so it doesn't hold my interest, personally, for very long.

Dr.Knockboots: Not a lot to do at level 80 though


Well, there's ton of big events in Orr like the... oh, wait, right... nobody does that anymore because everyone's grinding fractals.

Well, there's the new island where you can.. uh... hmm.... you know, the new island actually sort of blows what with the high-dps enemies, crap drop rates and only 7 events to do.

Well, you can always work on... uh... hmmm... right... not really any secondary activities like were promised....

Yea...

I usually just log in, do my PvP and PvE dailies and log out. Fun enough for an hour of play and you get something out of it at least.
 
2012-12-03 03:07:27 PM
Love it or hate, you guys/gals sure do like to talk about it. Which, I believe is why there are multiple threads associated with the game.

I think some of you angry haters of the game are like that preacher in CO that was called out by his male prositute. :)
 
2012-12-03 03:09:38 PM

Thorazine: I think some of you angry haters of the game are like that preacher in CO that was called out by his male prositute. :)


It's Fark. The snark comes natural. If they're gonna hold themselves up as the target for it over and over, and pay for the privilege, that's their problem.
 
2012-12-03 03:09:42 PM
MMOs lost their way when they changed from open-world games where player interaction was critical and into just big multiplayer games. There's no strict need for these grind-and-raid games to be MMOs -- the other players are barely set dressing.
 
2012-12-03 03:10:25 PM
To those who say it is more of the same, I would have to say that there is now a lot of diversity in the content now.

Pet battles
Player owned farms
Brawlers Guild
World treasure hunting
Expanded content for dedicated fisherman
Archaeology
Transmogrification system
Scenarios
World PvP objectives
Rated battlegrounds
Challenge mode dungeons
 
2012-12-03 03:11:20 PM

Epicedion: MMOs lost their way when they changed from open-world games where player interaction was critical and into just big multiplayer games. There's no strict need for these grind-and-raid games to be MMOs -- the other players are barely set dressing.


Which is why Guild Wars 2 worked great before everybody crammed themselves into the new dungeon. You just ran around doing the open world quests for your character and then BAM! Champion with huge DPS and hit pool comes stomping out of somewhere and the whole zone has to come running to help down it.

So Guild Wars 2 was really nice for exactly the reason you brought up... for about 10 weeks, anyway.
 
2012-12-03 03:12:35 PM

Epicedion: MMOs lost their way when they changed from open-world games where player interaction was critical and into just big multiplayer games.


Agreed. I hate that now you can go into a group situation and just not talk to anyone ever and get it done. It's not even an role-playing game anymore with homogenization of classes.
 
2012-12-03 03:14:37 PM

cyks: I enjoyed the game for the long grinds, having to work with others to figure things out, the social aspects, and where only the few elite would have top gear, but, by changing it for the lowest common denominator, Blizzard took out everything that I found enjoyable.


I totally agree with you, but I realized the other day (when I saw MOP at Best Buy and almost bought it), that I could never play the way I did in vanilla and BC again. Even if Blizzard reverted the game back to the version I miss, I still wouldn't play because the 30 year old me doesn't have time to raid 4-5 nights a week like the 24 year old me did.
 
2012-12-03 03:16:04 PM

Elroydb: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

Used to be? Except for maybe the Diablo series the rest of Blizzard's stuff has been almost entirely stolen from the Warhammer and Warhammer40k series

I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh


Yeah i was wondering the same thing. Bet he would tear it to shreds and biatch about being told to play it. Likely small punctuations saying "Its still the same farking game!"

I think the world might end if blizzard tried something new at this point.
 
2012-12-03 03:16:06 PM

amindtat: I got to exalted with the Tillers, the Anglers, Lorewalkers and Order of the Cloud Serpent. I got midway through revered with Golden Lotus and Klaxxi. I did the Shado-Pan and August Celestial Dailies once each, and then I just said fark this. At one point I had 2500 valor points, but couldn't spend them on anything because my rep wasn't high enough with the quartermasters that sold gear. I made a monk just before the new patch came out and I think I'll spend time leveling that up. I figure why work so hard getting to exalted when in two years they'll probably simplify the requirements.


They already have as of the last patch (5.1). Once you hit Revered with a faction you can buy an item (Grand Commendation of ...) from its Quartermaster. This item, when used, gives you a 100% bonus to rep from then on. And, it works for any toon on your account.
 
2012-12-03 03:16:36 PM
I wish I still wanted to play WarCraft, but I don't.

It's a shame, this expansion is the best since BC.
 
2012-12-03 03:17:28 PM

Treygreen13: Epicedion: MMOs lost their way when they changed from open-world games where player interaction was critical and into just big multiplayer games.

Agreed. I hate that now you can go into a group situation and just not talk to anyone ever and get it done. It's not even an role-playing game anymore with homogenization of classes.


Thirded. I never enjoyed fights were it was basically, "the tank will wear this armor, the mage will spam the following spells... deviating from this will get you chastised, which, incidentally is the only time your party will talk," games. At least Tera was fun in that you were aiming your attacks manually, which at least gave the illusion that a player was actually needed for the fight.
 
2012-12-03 03:18:40 PM

Kimpak: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: I started playing EVE Online.

/yes, I'm that kind of nerd

Good luck. Don't let the harshness of space get you down.


Such as that the developers themselves cheat at the game.
 
2012-12-03 03:19:02 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: thanks..i got bored after rolling 8 toons to 80.


Why stop now since you can have 11 level 90s!
 
2012-12-03 03:19:27 PM

JokerMattly: or spending a life-crushing three hours in Blackrock Depths


What it became in Wrath and Cataclysm (haven't played MOP) wasn't any better. People speeding through dungeons and biatching about any delay or dropping group if the tank didn't massively outgear the place. There was never a question that the group would finish, only how long it would take.

I think TBC pretty much got the 5-mans right. Not ridiculously long but challenging enough that success wasn't assured. Anyone remember pre-nerf Arcatraz? Good times...
 
2012-12-03 03:25:51 PM

Beeblebrox: amindtat: I got to exalted with the Tillers, the Anglers, Lorewalkers and Order of the Cloud Serpent. I got midway through revered with Golden Lotus and Klaxxi. I did the Shado-Pan and August Celestial Dailies once each, and then I just said fark this. At one point I had 2500 valor points, but couldn't spend them on anything because my rep wasn't high enough with the quartermasters that sold gear. I made a monk just before the new patch came out and I think I'll spend time leveling that up. I figure why work so hard getting to exalted when in two years they'll probably simplify the requirements.

They already have as of the last patch (5.1). Once you hit Revered with a faction you can buy an item (Grand Commendation of ...) from its Quartermaster. This item, when used, gives you a 100% bonus to rep from then on. And, it works for any toon on your account.


That's good to know! I noticed that item at the Tillers quartermaster, but I had no clue you only had to be revered or that all the quartermasters had them. I've been logging on my lvl 90 just to plant and harvest songbells to get the ridiculous 40 Ironpaw Tokens I need to get the cooking student.
 
2012-12-03 03:27:49 PM

Icetech3: Rift EQ is still the best MMO made..

 
2012-12-03 03:31:09 PM

had98c: Icetech3: Rift EQ Star Wars Galaxies is still was the best MMO ever made..

 
2012-12-03 03:31:15 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: I think TBC pretty much got the 5-mans right. Not ridiculously long but challenging enough that success wasn't assured. Anyone remember pre-nerf Arcatraz? Good times...


I remember being brought to Karazhan by my guild specifically because I was good at chain-trapping/cc-ing Moroes. In BC, hunters actually had a purpose that required skill and practice.
 
2012-12-03 03:31:56 PM

Beerguy: had98c: Icetech3: Rift EQ Star Wars Galaxies is still Ultima Online was the best MMO ever made..

 
2012-12-03 03:31:57 PM

amindtat: That's good to know! I noticed that item at the Tillers quartermaster, but I had no clue you only had to be revered or that all the quartermasters had them. I've been logging on my lvl 90 just to plant and harvest songbells to get the ridiculous 40 Ironpaw Tokens I need to get the cooking student.


The student is ridiculously cute. Except for the reallllly creepy way he says, "I'm growing a beard!" sometimes. It should be just one of those random cutesy things a little kid says, but something about the way he says it is just off-putting.
 
2012-12-03 03:33:25 PM

GoldSpider: ignatius_crumbcake: I think TBC pretty much got the 5-mans right. Not ridiculously long but challenging enough that success wasn't assured. Anyone remember pre-nerf Arcatraz? Good times...

I remember being brought to Karazhan by my guild specifically because I was good at chain-trapping/cc-ing Moroes. In BC, hunters actually had a purpose that required skill and practice.


They didn't get it right at first. Remember 360 degree cleave trash in Zangarmarsh 5 mans? It made playing as a rogue a teeny bit frustrating.
 
2012-12-03 03:33:41 PM

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


Sorry, I didn't catch that. I just hit some black dude with my car.
 
2012-12-03 03:34:50 PM

This text is now purple: Kimpak: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: I started playing EVE Online.

/yes, I'm that kind of nerd

Good luck. Don't let the harshness of space get you down.

Such as that the developers themselves cheat at the game.


That happened a long time ago.
 
2012-12-03 03:35:59 PM

lennavan: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

Which is why I won't try it. If you play WoW solo, it's just the same old shiat. You run around, find some shiat, or kill some shiat and collect gold and XP. In a month, I'd cap my character and be stuck just repeating the same old solo shiat over and over again. That's not really fun. If you play WoW in a group, it's way more fun. You get together, work through figuring out how to kill bosses and keeping your gear and inventory up and whatnot. It's hella fun. Except it requires you to be on a schedule and you have to wait for other people and if you miss one, leave early or have actual real life stuff things to do, the group is pissed at you and so on.

Ever since I quit WoW I began playing video games that when I feel like playing, I play. When I feel like quitting, I quit. What a crazy idea.

I got no beef with you playing WoW. Why are you so upset some people might not like the "lifestyle" it requires to play?


I knew I had you favorited for a reason. Completely agree regarding WoW: played it for a few years, had a good time when I did, now I don't play because it requires a time commitment that I don't have the time to give it.

Now, in my opinion, Cataclysm did not help that because it upped the ante on the amount of time required and I have real life commitments that have to take priority over video games. But when they brought out the pandas (and yes, I am aware of the previous role of Pandaren in Warcraft. I am also aware of the April Fool's joke of Pandaren being a playable race several years ago), I admit that it soured me on the game for good. Not just for the reasons lennavan mentions, but because the story opens the exact same way Cata did, they added the WoW equivalent of Pokemon with pet battles, account wide reputation, and cross-faction chat (at least for Pandaren) - which, while something that we've all been scratching our heads over for years wondering why it wasn't in the game already, is guaranteed to cause more drama than Kristen Stewart's love life.

Now, all those things together mean that WoW is no longer the game for me. But if you enjoy it, great! Have fun! Send me some screenshots--because I admit that the art of the game does interest me. And I'm not interested in insulting the players because it can be fun--I just can't play a game anymore that asks for so much of my time that it's practically a job.
 
2012-12-03 03:36:14 PM

Treygreen13: Beerguy: had98c: Icetech3: Rift EQ Star Wars Galaxies is still Ultima Online was the best MMO ever made..


This ^.. Before they nerfed it.
 
2012-12-03 03:36:58 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: Jubeebee: Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.

As an April fools joke, yeah.

Ummm, wrong.

But even if you were right, cow men, the other cow men, the bison version of cow men, the yak version, bear men, some other bear men, green tusked men, green and blue big tusked men with rasta accents, fish men, space goat squid men, and somehow this is over the line? What's that? You just follow whatever the internet tells you to like or hate? Gotcha.


Not to mention that the Pandaren were detailed in the d20 game based on Warcraft, and in fact were fully fleshed out with racial classes in the Dark Factions supplement, which was released a month prior to Kung Fu Panda.

The female Pandaren even makes a comment about this, making fun of all the people biatching about the animal people in the game:

"So I was talking to this Tauren the other day. Or was it a Worgen? Which one is cow and which one is dog? All these talking animals are so STUPID!"

Complaining about Pandaren in WoW because they are 'furries' is like admitting that you're just wanting to biatch about something since the furry cow people have been in the game (WoW, anyway) since day 1.
 
2012-12-03 03:41:28 PM

had98c: GoldSpider: ignatius_crumbcake: I think TBC pretty much got the 5-mans right. Not ridiculously long but challenging enough that success wasn't assured. Anyone remember pre-nerf Arcatraz? Good times...

I remember being brought to Karazhan by my guild specifically because I was good at chain-trapping/cc-ing Moroes. In BC, hunters actually had a purpose that required skill and practice.

They didn't get it right at first. Remember 360 degree cleave trash in Zangarmarsh 5 mans? It made playing as a rogue a teeny bit frustrating.


You mean that year period where every single new piece of content predominantly featured massive PBAoE damage that reduced the role of the rogue to standing off to the side shooting with a crossbow or waiting for the encounter to end so you could be ressed? Yeah, not good times. I had to go Combat Rogue to raid and even then if I wasn't chain-dodging I'd die.

That was part of the reason I quit. There was a period where new equipment massively inflated total HP on everyone to account for the increased AoE damage, but rogue weapons were basically static. So if you were a rogue, you were playing in a low point where everyone in PvP was basically a damage sponge and all the PvE content was instant-death for you if you got anywhere near melee range. In addition, Warriors and Druids had both been buffed to the point where a Warrior could put on his Fury gear and put out comparable damage, and a Druid could go Cat or Bear and fill in for your spot, the Warrior's spot, or the Healer spot.
 
2012-12-03 03:41:38 PM
WOW ! puluuuzze..that's so last decade..

cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2012-12-03 03:42:46 PM

bim1154: This ^.. Before they nerfed it.


Sadly, yes. Although I think they were having trouble with gaining new players considering how unfriendly the environment was - but Trammel was a TREMENDOUS overreaction to that problem and killed it.
 
2012-12-03 03:45:49 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: JokerMattly: or spending a life-crushing three hours in Blackrock Depths

What it became in Wrath and Cataclysm (haven't played MOP) wasn't any better. People speeding through dungeons and biatching about any delay or dropping group if the tank didn't massively outgear the place. There was never a question that the group would finish, only how long it would take.

I think TBC pretty much got the 5-mans right. Not ridiculously long but challenging enough that success wasn't assured. Anyone remember pre-nerf Arcatraz? Good times...


In the old WoW you had to be nice to people to be in a guild to go on raids to get the good gear. Now to can be the lone wolf jerk and still get the drops. I got way to tired of having a good group and then the next random would be bunch of rude idiots. The other problem is that I am not paying Blizz money to transfer off a low pop/dead server to find a good guild. Was in a decent guild for a time and did Kara and it was great. They all transferred to a different server. I also hate that PVP gear is different than pve gear - I would do more PVP if I stood a chance against the PVP players in my pve stuff.
They also ruined leveling a toon by making it too fast to level. What is the point in rushing to 90 to be bored. If you run an instance at level 40 the drops you get are worthless after a day as you are already level 46. One of the biggest things I don't like is that my toons have no talents now and I have to respec them and re-learn all of the new changed abilities. I had just figured out how to play my guys and now I have to start all over again. It's not a fun game anymore it's a "omg I have to put in more hours to keep up with the herd" type of second job. I might pop in for the free 10 days but won't re up.
One other thing as long as I am posting. Add a free month of game time to the expansions. Buy the XPAC for 35 and have to add 15 subscription bucks....to come back... Nope.
 
2012-12-03 03:46:45 PM

Wayne 985: ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.

Sorry, I didn't catch that. I just hit some black dude with my car.


The fark kind of idiot are you?
 
2012-12-03 03:48:29 PM
WoW? fark no.
 
2012-12-03 03:49:38 PM

abfalter: Wayne 985: ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.

Sorry, I didn't catch that. I just hit some black dude with my car.

The fark kind of idiot are you?


Grand Theft Auto
 
2012-12-03 03:49:43 PM
I played the Pandaria expansion for a while, but the daily quests wore me down. So I just ended up quitting. As it stands, I don't see myself starting back up for quite a while if ever.

I am, however, excited about Star Citizen, Grand Theft Auto V, and hoping that Mechwarrior Online gets better as they go through the beta process.
 
2012-12-03 03:49:47 PM

Beerguy: To those who say it is more of the same, I would have to say that there is now a lot of diversity in the content now.

Pet battles
Player owned farms
Brawlers Guild
World treasure hunting
Expanded content for dedicated fisherman
Archaeology
Transmogrification system
Scenarios
World PvP objectives
Rated battlegrounds
Challenge mode dungeons


CRZ that puts PvE servers with PvP servers so PvEr are getting camped by PvP players.
Two player mounts dismounting the riders and DCing them.
RP and non RP server mixing and since you never know where you end up can't do world RP events
Three hour time swings.
All world events are now west coast time regardless of your server time


/The World PvP objectives have been around since like patch 1.10 was all in BC as well so those are old.
//Pet Battles? I still have a GBA and pokemon around here somewhere
 
2012-12-03 03:50:41 PM
This seems about as popular as a FarkTV thread.
 
2012-12-03 03:51:05 PM

Epicedion: MMOs lost their way when they changed from open-world games where player interaction was critical and into just big multiplayer games. There's no strict need for these grind-and-raid games to be MMOs -- the other players are barely set dressing.


This.

I tried many, but I never found an MMO that was more fun socially than Star Wars Galaxies when it launched. From crafting to buying/selling goods, healing, entertaining and training, you absolutely had to interact with others. And it was a blast. Nothing beat going out on a quest on Tatooine, running scared from a Tusken raider or two, then heading into the Mos Eisley cantina to listen to some tunes and chat with the musicians and fellow patrons.
 
2012-12-03 03:51:07 PM
I miss MUDs. Anybody know a good MUD?
 
2012-12-03 03:51:59 PM

ColSanders: I tried many, but I never found an MMO that was more fun socially than Star Wars Galaxies when it launched. From crafting to buying/selling goods, healing, entertaining and training, you absolutely had to interact with others. And it was a blast. Nothing beat going out on a quest on Tatooine, running scared from a Tusken raider or two, then heading into the Mos Eisley cantina to listen to some tunes and chat with the musicians and fellow patrons.


RP in an MMORPG?

the f*ck?
 
2012-12-03 03:54:35 PM
Keep throwing that 15 bucks away, fanboys.
 
2012-12-03 03:54:50 PM

GrogSmash: aevorea: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

Any praise I've heard about MoP is from the players who predominately play WoW for the PvP.

Exactly. It's anther example of Blizzards new philosophy of 'You will play the game the way WE want, not the way YOU want'.

The current push is for PvP in everything, and Pandaria is, from what I understand, aimed specifically for PvP.

This cost them a lot of loyal players who refuse to PvP.


Totally the opposite. The absurd gear scale coupled with cross realm zoning means you cannot go anywhere without being ganked by someone, usually a level 90 with 350,000 hps against your level 70 with 10,000, or whatever. Expansion killed what little pvp there was.
 
2012-12-03 03:54:50 PM

Honest Bender: magicgoo: Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...

I, too have been playing TOR lately. I decided to give it another try and so far I'm having a lot of fun just playing out the character story arch for the jedi knight. After that I'm gonna roll a smuggler. Then maybe a trooper. The stories are really well done, everything is voice acted, you get to make decision...

The game itself is a little shallow. The crafting system leaves much to be desired. But the game play and such is good.

They have some BS F2P garbage now, but just toss in the $15 for a one month sub to bypass all those shenanigans.


My take on SWTOR: Very entertaining first-person game, class-story lines are engaging. Crappy MMO. ( I'm actually OK with that. I only group for Flashpoints anyways)
 
2012-12-03 03:54:51 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I miss MUDs. Anybody know a good MUD?


MUDs are still a thing - check Mud Connector - they still have active player reviews.
 
2012-12-03 03:54:56 PM

Treygreen13: ProfessorOhki: Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Yahtzee is on the record as liking or at least not hating the following games:

Silent Hill 2
Deus Ex
Killer 7
Shadows of the Colossus
Portal
Saints Row 2
Painkiller
Psychonauts
Bioshock
No More Heroes
Left 4 Dead
Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Batman: Arkham Asylum
The Half Life series
hiatman: Blood Money
God of War
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario
Final Fantasy VI (shocking isn't it?)
Chrono Trigger (I think hell just froze over twice)
Tom Clancy's HAWX
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Dead Rising 1 and 2
COD4
Infamous and Prototype
House of the Dead series
Assassin'sFaffing About Creed 2
Guitar Hero 1 & 2 and the Rock Bands
Minecraft
Beyond Good and Evil
Earthbound
Prince of Persia (the new ones)
Team Fortress 2
Metro 2033
Serious Sam
System Shock 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Gears of War 2
Grim Fandango
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Metroid Prime

He has criticisms for a lot of games... even the ones he likes. But his list of games he actually likes is pretty good.


FTFY

/Off to retry the farking tank mission in AC Brotherhood
 
2012-12-03 03:55:22 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I miss MUDs. Anybody know a good MUD?


I used to play this one. I really enjoyed it.

http://www.legendsofterris.com/
 
2012-12-03 03:55:32 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


Sorry, your tired joke is just tired. Pandaren existed long before Kung-Fu Panda (good in it's own right), Warcraft 3 had them, and Samwise was creating them for years in his art.

0/10
 
2012-12-03 03:55:35 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I miss MUDs. Anybody know a good MUD?


Ask Drew?

/kidding
//don't hurt me
///never liked WOW
////cartoon graphical MUD my ass
 
2012-12-03 03:56:56 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Honest Bender: magicgoo: Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...

I, too have been playing TOR lately. I decided to give it another try and so far I'm having a lot of fun just playing out the character story arch for the jedi knight. After that I'm gonna roll a smuggler. Then maybe a trooper. The stories are really well done, everything is voice acted, you get to make decision...

The game itself is a little shallow. The crafting system leaves much to be desired. But the game play and such is good.

They have some BS F2P garbage now, but just toss in the $15 for a one month sub to bypass all those shenanigans.

My take on SWTOR: Very entertaining first-person game, class-story lines are engaging. Crappy MMO. ( I'm actually OK with that. I only group for Flashpoints anyways)


If it had a real well done space game, like TIE Fighter but online and you could really build your ship and go where you want, would be amazing.
 
2012-12-03 03:58:20 PM

Krab: //Pet Battles? I still have a GBA and pokemon around here somewhere


I had every iteration of pokemon except ...silver/gold/pearl, iirc. Easily 100+ hours each. WoW pet battles need two or three sophistications that came in the later pokemon series (stat inversion attacks, and inverted stat attacks being a big one imo, IE: attack that bases damage off speed instead of attack, attack that bases damage off speed but inverted IE: slower more damage), but overall is fairly solid. The PVE content isn't all that difficult as far as pet battles go, but there's a good amount of depth to the pvp pet battles already, including weather teams, stall teams, and a decent rock/paper/lizard/spock/scissors/dynamite setup.
 
2012-12-03 04:00:31 PM

Treygreen13: and a Druid could go Cat or Bear and fill in for your spot, the Warrior's spot, or the Healer spot.


Yeah I remember Druids (especially feral tanks) were ridiculously OP after the initial BC release.

Can't say I was terribly sympathetic towards rogues... I hated dealing with them in battlegrounds (this was before facerolling warlocks).
 
2012-12-03 04:01:16 PM

Wittenberg Dropout: Keep throwing that 15 bucks away, fanboys.


If $15 causes you financial pain, how do you ever manage to go out on a date?
 
2012-12-03 04:01:37 PM

Snapper Carr: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I miss MUDs. Anybody know a good MUD?

MUDs are still a thing - check Mud Connector - they still have active player reviews.


The one I played on, RealmsMud, is still around but pretty dead most of the time.
 
2012-12-03 04:02:09 PM
MMO is where franchises I like go to die.

Hope it doesn't happen to The Elder Scrolls.

Maybe after this WoW thing is over we'll get another Warcraft RTS.
 
2012-12-03 04:04:19 PM

Thunderpipes: Forbidden Doughnut: Honest Bender: magicgoo: Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...

I, too have been playing TOR lately. I decided to give it another try and so far I'm having a lot of fun just playing out the character story arch for the jedi knight. After that I'm gonna roll a smuggler. Then maybe a trooper. The stories are really well done, everything is voice acted, you get to make decision...

The game itself is a little shallow. The crafting system leaves much to be desired. But the game play and such is good.

They have some BS F2P garbage now, but just toss in the $15 for a one month sub to bypass all those shenanigans.

My take on SWTOR: Very entertaining first-person game, class-story lines are engaging. Crappy MMO. ( I'm actually OK with that. I only group for Flashpoints anyways)

If it had a real well done space game, like TIE Fighter but online and you could really build your ship and go where you want, would be amazing.


How about User-generated content? That's what makes Star Trek: Online awesome. Get bored with official content? User-generated missions can keep you going.
 
2012-12-03 04:04:35 PM

GoldSpider: Can't say I was terribly sympathetic towards rogues... I hated dealing with them in battlegrounds (this was before facerolling warlocks).


That was pretty much what the class was reduced to in PvP. Trying to finish off wounded casters. Or just bother them enough that they have to suffer the indignity of being stunned for 4 seconds before chain-fearing you to death.

/although I did take sheer sadistic pleasure in speccing for stealth speed and then running down a flag carrier and sapping him
//watching his whole group run past him without noticing that he's suddenly unconscious was hilarious
///also if you timed it just right you could sap a lone capture point defender and then cap the point while they sit there banging their head into their keyboard
 
2012-12-03 04:07:53 PM
Obscure? Panda Khan is not obscure. He was a pretty popular character when he was adapted to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles... And they're hardly an "obscure" part of pop culture.

Also, I know how to use Google.
 
2012-12-03 04:11:07 PM
I'd rather throw myself down a well.
 
2012-12-03 04:11:49 PM
200+ comments and no link to these? For shame.

(NSFW language)
Onyxia Wipe Animation
Leroy Jenkins
 
2012-12-03 04:11:58 PM
I'm rather enjoying MoP, far more than I did Cata, which I felt was really directed towards the entire leveling experience and very dry at endgame. I'm a mildly serious endgame pver and I've only occasionally felt the push to pvp from the game design - moreso if my goddamn legendary quest will ever progress.

I've tried Guild Wars 2 and despite that being the game that my friends are currently in, it couldn't keep me. Pure Orr grind, nerfed dye drops, zerg rush pvp... I liked certain of the questing mechanics and wish they'd become industry standards, plus it was lovely to look at, but. Well. I like the pandas more right now. Fark me, right?
 
2012-12-03 04:12:34 PM

Treygreen13: bim1154: This ^.. Before they nerfed it.

Sadly, yes. Although I think they were having trouble with gaining new players considering how unfriendly the environment was - but Trammel was a TREMENDOUS overreaction to that problem and killed it.


From a marketing prospective, I could see it, but man.. it sure did suck when they put PKs like me out of business. I have caught myself holding up every mmo since then up against UO and there have been a lot of them. None even come close to those first few years when we could run amok in that game.
 
2012-12-03 04:13:28 PM

cyks: 200+ comments and no link to these? For shame.

(NSFW language)
Onyxia Wipe Animation
Leroy Jenkins


Everyone in the thread gets a 50 dkp minus.
 
2012-12-03 04:14:26 PM

GoldSpider: I remember being brought to Karazhan by my guild specifically because I was good at chain-trapping/cc-ing Moroes. In BC, hunters actually had a purpose that required skill and practice.


I played a hunter in TBC too. Moroes was fun but my favorite was the original Skeletal Ushers. I had to kite one while the group killed the other one, then feign death at the end of the hallway. Extra fun when feign was resisted.
 
2012-12-03 04:19:34 PM

Treygreen13: /although I did take sheer sadistic pleasure in speccing for stealth speed and then running down a flag carrier and sapping him
//watching his whole group run past him without noticing that he's suddenly unconscious was hilarious
///also if you timed it just right you could sap a lone capture point defender and then cap the point while they sit there banging their head into their keyboard


I loved being a flag escort in WSG. Concussion shot, wing clip, frost traps, rooting/snaring pets...
 
2012-12-03 04:20:42 PM

Elroydb: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

Used to be? Except for maybe the Diablo series the rest of Blizzard's stuff has been almost entirely stolen from the Warhammer and Warhammer40k series

I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh


Actually, he mentions it in his review of FIFA 13 (He reviewed a sports game!?)

"I wouldn't touch [Mists of Pandaria] with a 12' sterilized pole being held by someone else."

Link
 
2012-12-03 04:21:07 PM

fallingcow: MMO is where franchises I like go to die.

Hope it doesn't happen to The Elder Scrolls.


Elder Scrolls MMO (complete with third-person view and hotbars of buttons) already announced and in the pipe.
 
2012-12-03 04:22:08 PM

GoldSpider: Treygreen13: /although I did take sheer sadistic pleasure in speccing for stealth speed and then running down a flag carrier and sapping him
//watching his whole group run past him without noticing that he's suddenly unconscious was hilarious
///also if you timed it just right you could sap a lone capture point defender and then cap the point while they sit there banging their head into their keyboard

I loved being a flag escort in WSG. Concussion shot, wing clip, frost traps, rooting/snaring pets...


I preferred flag carrying as an undead disc priest. Barge full speed ahead ignoring any support at all while just spamming dispel and having a bazillion other ways out of fear/cc. Was nigh unstoppable. Fun times.
 
2012-12-03 04:22:17 PM
Anyone know how long this is open? I'd love to play for free, but oh man, it's dead week, next week is finals week, I won't be able to touch the game without killing my future.
 
2012-12-03 04:22:43 PM

bim1154: From a marketing prospective, I could see it, but man.. it sure did suck when they put PKs like me out of business. I have caught myself holding up every mmo since then up against UO and there have been a lot of them. None even come close to those first few years when we could run amok in that game.


Agreed. The notoriety system was great for rewarding/punishing murders. People had reputations and you cared who you killed because the next time you see them they might bring 5 friends and chop your corpse up into little pieces and space your remains out amongst your looted and gutted home. And there was a risk/reward of farming monsters and obtaining trade goods because the PKs knew that was where they were. So you had naturally occurring PvP areas that would spill over into small group combat all the way to full guild wars.

Real estate was scarce enough that acquiring wealth was a means to obtaining the rare commodity of housing. The economy was functional because the players were constantly losing (or having things stolen) and thus generating a need for crafters to produce things. Business was conducted face-to-face. The magic and skill system allowed for creative and unorthodox playstyles to thrive alongside the "flavor of the month".

There was a period where it was the golden age of MMOs.
 
2012-12-03 04:25:06 PM

had98c: I preferred flag carrying as an undead disc priest. Barge full speed ahead ignoring any support at all while just spamming dispel and having a bazillion other ways out of fear/cc. Was nigh unstoppable. Fun times.


Yeah, wasn't much to do as a single person against an undead priest. Only thing that worked 100% was "Distract but it was on a long cooldown". I don't think they intended it to work that way but it made anyone out of combat turn and stop and look directly at wherever you threw it. Nothing like stopping a 6-guy flag train in their tracks because you tossed a pebble near them.
 
2012-12-03 04:26:01 PM

Tourney3p0: LowbrowDeluxe: Blizzactivision is soooo out of touch

You played Diablo 3 too, huh?


Yeah, for about 45 minutes.
 
2012-12-03 04:27:52 PM
GoldSpider:I loved being a flag escort in WSG. Concussion shot, wing clip, frost traps, rooting/snaring pets...

Hunters FTW! Good times.
 
2012-12-03 04:28:29 PM
played wow for 3 years.. gave up during lich king.. was convinced to come back and to find the same unbalanced game that forces its replay value on you out of necessity to gain the rewards of excessive playing as the only means to better your character. world of warcraft is a formula for endless disappointment and frustration.. i want my money back


Valve showed me how to respect a video game developer

save yourself the let-down and choose any number of free alternatives available on Steam

//shammy
 
2012-12-03 04:29:17 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


All of this.

Kiwimann: Hobodeluxe: I enjoyed the starter area for Pandas. Didn't try any of the high level stuff although I do have a few 85s. I left a while back. Just wanted to check out the new race/class a bit

As a casual/social WoW player, I'm really enjoying Pandaria. Burning Crusade was the last XPAC I got this much enjoyment out of (and although it's argued that BC was very unforgiving for casual players, the fact was that I had something to do every day that I logged in, even if it was just struggling with the 5 man content).

Anyways, LK & Cataclysm both had the same issue for me. I burned through the available content way too quickly, and the only things available to me were watching paint dry (lich king), or doing horribly boring dailies over and over (Cataclysm).

MoP only has "too many dailies" if you are obsessed with doing them all at the same time. If you're patient enough to figure out which faction(s) you want to work on, and just do one or two sets of dailies a day, it's fine.

I really enjoy the storyline so far. I thought Anduin Wrynn was a twerp in previous expansions, but I like what they've done with the character and it makes me interested to see what else they'll do with him. I like the pandas too (some more than others, Chen Stormstout is pretty cool).

They've fixed the difficulty of most LFR instances. The first one is pretty laughable (and boring because it's so laughable), but the other ones have some actual gameplay to them now (even if it's lower difficulty than organized raids, it's enough gameplay to make them enjoyable to run. Dragon Soul LFR made me want to claw my eyes out).

My only complaints are about the currencies (justice points are just this side of useless, and valor points don't come fast enough for the people who need them to qualify for LFR).

And mock the pokemon style pet battles as you like, they're still fun and you can get some cool mini pets.

I don't feel obligated to play WoW for ridiculous amounts of time anymore, and I ca ...


And all of this.

Only doing 2 sets of dailies at a time, hour or two a day probably, plus maybe another 30-45 min spent tending all my farms and playing the AH. Started with Tillers and Cloud Serpent, then Anglers, then Klaxxi, now doing Golden Lotus (last day!) and August Celestials, starting Shadow Pan tomorrow then the new Operation Shieldwall stuff eventually. With the buffs to rep gains for everybody it takes maybe 10-15 days of dailies to get exalted with any faction, and the gear isnt rep locked, so the only reason to do them is for mounts and stuff. As someone who once upon a time worked 50 hours a week and still managed to take my DPS main, healer and tank alts into ICC 10 and 25 every week, and do all 21 heroics a week for them, im taking it seriously easy this expac, havent touched my alts except to level all their professions and get their farms opened up. Havent even gotten around to pet battles much yet either, stepped into a couple of heroics because guildies asked, and a handful of scenarios. Theres so much to do if you only play a couple to three hours a day.

/time to go harvest my crops...
 
2012-12-03 04:29:51 PM

magicgoo: Too busy playing SWTOR, but I do like me some pandas!!! Sorry for now, WoW. Star Wars wins again...


I just finished leveling my 5th toon to 50 (Agent) and am happily starting over with my 2nd Sith Inquisitor (going for Sorc this time, with a healthy dose of Madness tree...)
 
2012-12-03 04:34:52 PM

Treygreen13: bim1154: From a marketing prospective, I could see it, but man.. it sure did suck when they put PKs like me out of business. I have caught myself holding up every mmo since then up against UO and there have been a lot of them. None even come close to those first few years when we could run amok in that game.

Agreed. The notoriety system was great for rewarding/punishing murders. People had reputations and you cared who you killed because the next time you see them they might bring 5 friends and chop your corpse up into little pieces and space your remains out amongst your looted and gutted home. And there was a risk/reward of farming monsters and obtaining trade goods because the PKs knew that was where they were. So you had naturally occurring PvP areas that would spill over into small group combat all the way to full guild wars.

Real estate was scarce enough that acquiring wealth was a means to obtaining the rare commodity of housing. The economy was functional because the players were constantly losing (or having things stolen) and thus generating a need for crafters to produce things. Business was conducted face-to-face. The magic and skill system allowed for creative and unorthodox playstyles to thrive alongside the "flavor of the month".

There was a period where it was the golden age of MMOs.


Like anyone else who played that game in the early days, the memories are many and some downright great. Coming up with different ways to do things was almost a national pass time. The crafting in the early days was great. You could actually make an in-game living just making weapons and armor as well as repairing. I started playing soon after the game was released before all the real estate was grabbed up. I can remember when Ice Island had no houses on it.
One of my favorite things was when we got wind of one of those "weddings" and if it took place outside of town somewhere, we would hit it, kill everyone and take all the stuff. Soon after you'd see posses gathering at the bank to come get us.
 
2012-12-03 04:35:53 PM
Does anyone know any good alternatives to Planetside 2? Looking at the requirements, it is a little too much for my PC. Any alternatives suggested should have built in VOIP and an active user base using it.

/BF3 looks like the best alternative ATM
//GW2 is good, but am terrible with PvP in RPGs
 
2012-12-03 04:41:02 PM

ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.


That don't bother me at all.
 
2012-12-03 04:44:57 PM
KangTheMad


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2012-12-03 02:01:59 PM

Elroydb: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

Used to be? Except for maybe the Diablo series the rest of Blizzard's stuff has been almost entirely stolen from the Warhammer and Warhammer40k series

I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh

And Diablo III blows.

//Want to play? Get connected to the internet
///Blizzard's servers go down? Fark you, outta luck, can't play singleplayer

The same for any game that uses a Steam Account like Skyrim or Saint's Row. Blizzard is not alone in this.
 
2012-12-03 04:45:26 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: ///never liked WOW


Oh wait, free trial. So I can wait to decide... sigh... I'm not really going to try this again am I.

Yes I am.
 
2012-12-03 04:45:31 PM

Snapper Carr: Elroydb: I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh

Yahtzee hates all MMORPG's on principal (actually I think Yahtzee hates everything that's not Silent Hill 2 - just some games he hates less than others)


Yahtzee also hates his fans, which is why I stopped watching his reviews. If you want to be a smug condescending asshat, that's fine. It's just about expected in a critic. But when you start insulting your own fans, that's when I change the channel (or unsubscribe or whatever metaphor you like).
 
2012-12-03 04:46:58 PM

bim1154: Treygreen13: bim1154: From a marketing prospective, I could see it, but man.. it sure did suck when they put PKs like me out of business. I have caught myself holding up every mmo since then up against UO and there have been a lot of them. None even come close to those first few years when we could run amok in that game.

Agreed. The notoriety system was great for rewarding/punishing murders. People had reputations and you cared who you killed because the next time you see them they might bring 5 friends and chop your corpse up into little pieces and space your remains out amongst your looted and gutted home. And there was a risk/reward of farming monsters and obtaining trade goods because the PKs knew that was where they were. So you had naturally occurring PvP areas that would spill over into small group combat all the way to full guild wars.

Real estate was scarce enough that acquiring wealth was a means to obtaining the rare commodity of housing. The economy was functional because the players were constantly losing (or having things stolen) and thus generating a need for crafters to produce things. Business was conducted face-to-face. The magic and skill system allowed for creative and unorthodox playstyles to thrive alongside the "flavor of the month".

There was a period where it was the golden age of MMOs.

Like anyone else who played that game in the early days, the memories are many and some downright great. Coming up with different ways to do things was almost a national pass time. The crafting in the early days was great. You could actually make an in-game living just making weapons and armor as well as repairing. I started playing soon after the game was released before all the real estate was grabbed up. I can remember when Ice Island had no houses on it.
One of my favorite things was when we got wind of one of those "weddings" and if it took place outside of town somewhere, we would hit it, kill everyone and take all the stuff. Soon after you'd s ...


UO was pretty awesome. I had a of fun playing 'til they gave each shard a PvE or PvP side. That's when I found out I was in the minority. Most people didn't like the PvP.
 
2012-12-03 04:47:23 PM

pudding7: Free Radical: Do I have to stand still while I cast spells?

Yes?

No thanks.

/boring combat is boring

I haven't played WoW in years, but I do remember there being a bunch of spells you could cast while running.


Some spells are instant-cast, some spells take time to cast and fail if interrupted, and some are "channeled" which means their affect happens over time (doing X damage per second, for example), so if they're interrupted, you get some affect but not the full affect.
 
2012-12-03 04:49:32 PM

ObscureNameHere: "Ha-ha! Those WoW losers!"

/Steam Account --> Skyrim --> HOURS PLAYED: 560


Skyrim is nice, but "level scaling" still sucks Breton horripilation.
 
2012-12-03 04:53:03 PM
I tend to enjoy games on my own time.

Skyrim. Borderlands. Battlefield. If I want to do on hour, I can do one hour.

Had all the nice shiny gear as a max level (50?) fem troll shammy, at almost exactly three years in.

Having to schedule my work and sleep around raids killed that for me. Quit cold turkey. Never going back.

Basically MMO games you can't win - no thanks
 
2012-12-03 04:53:52 PM

ZzeusS: Battlefield. If I want to do on hour, I can do one hour.


Battlefield 3 is something I can't play for just 1 hour. I hop in a game and then look up and it's 6am.
 
2012-12-03 04:54:50 PM

Thorazine: UO was pretty awesome. I had a of fun playing 'til they gave each shard a PvE or PvP side. That's when I found out I was in the minority. Most people didn't like the PvP.


Pretty much my story too.
 
2012-12-03 04:55:12 PM

ProfessorOhki: Snapper Carr: Elroydb: I wonder what Yahtzee had to say about this game, heh

Yahtzee hates all MMORPG's on principal (actually I think Yahtzee hates everything that's not Silent Hill 2 - just some games he hates less than others)

Now now, he liked Portal. Then again, that might be because he found GlaDOS a sympathetic protagonist.

Hobodeluxe: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.

Why would it matter who thought of it first? "We need animal to do martial arts stuff with - quick name something Asian" "Uhhh, PANDAS!" Isn't exactly the peak of creativity either way. Besides, weren't Pandaren originally samurai until Chinese players got buttmad over a Chinese symbol being mixed with a Japanese symbol and Blizzard quickly rolled over and went "oh, do they look like samurai? Uh, we totally meant, *pssst* "Hey, Steve, what's Chinese fighting called?" kung-fu. Yeah, they're Kung-Fu...ers."


media.comicvine.com

What an animal samurai might look like.

/Yes, I know he's technically a ronin.
 
2012-12-03 04:57:41 PM

kdogg73: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

This.


I have to say, regardless of what you think about the new race, the new class (monk) is a lot of fun to play.
 
2012-12-03 04:59:02 PM

LegacyDL: According to Warcraft lore, there should be two more expansions after this one and it's all over. According to Activision/Blizzard's lore there will be expansions until the golden goose cooks itself.


I don't know anything about Warcraft lore. Care to explain how it predicts two more expansions?
 
2012-12-03 04:59:18 PM

Rug Doctor: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


I know I'm super late to say this, but jesus christ, Blizzard and creativity? Really?
 
2012-12-03 05:00:22 PM

bim1154: Thorazine: UO was pretty awesome. I had a of fun playing 'til they gave each shard a PvE or PvP side. That's when I found out I was in the minority. Most people didn't like the PvP.

Pretty much my story too.


I didn't play it for the PvP. I played it because the friends I made in the game loved PvP and I loved helping them. My character was a 7x GM amalgamation of things I liked to do instead of making whatever was working best. I made food, healed my friends, sneaked around... fought a little when I needed to. But mostly I was a support character. And it worked.

I had more fun sitting in the little house at the crossroads healing my friends as we fought off marauding PKs than anything else I've ever done in an MMO.
 
2012-12-03 05:01:51 PM
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2012-12-03 02:26:48 PM

amindtat: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

How about about dailies? Did they add more dailies? Because we could use more lvl 90 dailies!

I got to exalted with the Tillers, the Anglers, Lorewalkers and Order of the Cloud Serpent. I got midway through revered with Golden Lotus and Klaxxi. I did the Shado-Pan and August Celestial Dailies once each, and then I just said fark this. At one point I had 2500 valor points, but couldn't spend them on anything because my rep wasn't high enough with the quartermasters that sold gear. I made a monk just before the new patch came out and I think I'll spend time leveling that up. I figure why work so hard getting to exalted when in two years they'll probably simplify the requirements.

Already nerfed.

I went casual for family reasons and there's still a wackton of content here. MoP is a pretty good expansion, no lie, but here's the thing: Everyone who cares already plays the game.

There's more content than is needed to level up, hence you could level up with different alts and take them in different directions. That's the one thing that has been speeded up, the leveling. I've seen players go from 1-58 in a couple of days if they have the free time.
 
2012-12-03 05:02:51 PM

Treygreen13: You mean that year period where every single new piece of content predominantly featured massive PBAoE damage that reduced the role of the rogue to standing off to the side shooting with a crossbow or waiting for the encounter to end so you could be ressed? Yeah, not good times. I had to go Combat Rogue to raid and even then if I wasn't chain-dodging I'd die.

That was part of the reason I quit. There was a period where new equipment massively inflated total HP on everyone to account for the increased AoE damage, but rogue weapons were basically static. So if you were a rogue, you were playing in a low point where everyone in PvP was basically a damage sponge and all the PvE content was instant-death for you if you got anywhere near melee range. In addition, Warriors and Druids had both been buffed to the point where a Warrior could put on his Fury gear and put out comparable damage, and a Druid could go Cat or Bear and fill in for your spot, the Warrior's spot, or the Healer spot.


I think Poe's Law just kicked in.
 
2012-12-03 05:03:59 PM

Kiwimann: Hobodeluxe: I enjoyed the starter area for Pandas. Didn't try any of the high level stuff although I do have a few 85s. I left a while back. Just wanted to check out the new race/class a bit

As a casual/social WoW player, I'm really enjoying Pandaria. Burning Crusade was the last XPAC I got this much enjoyment out of (and although it's argued that BC was very unforgiving for casual players, the fact was that I had something to do every day that I logged in, even if it was just struggling with the 5 man content).

Anyways, LK & Cataclysm both had the same issue for me. I burned through the available content way too quickly, and the only things available to me were watching paint dry (lich king), or doing horribly boring dailies over and over (Cataclysm).

MoP only has "too many dailies" if you are obsessed with doing them all at the same time. If you're patient enough to figure out which faction(s) you want to work on, and just do one or two sets of dailies a day, it's fine.

I really enjoy the storyline so far. I thought Anduin Wrynn was a twerp in previous expansions, but I like what they've done with the character and it makes me interested to see what else they'll do with him. I like the pandas too (some more than others, Chen Stormstout is pretty cool).

They've fixed the difficulty of most LFR instances. The first one is pretty laughable (and boring because it's so laughable), but the other ones have some actual gameplay to them now (even if it's lower difficulty than organized raids, it's enough gameplay to make them enjoyable to run. Dragon Soul LFR made me want to claw my eyes out).

My only complaints are about the currencies (justice points are just this side of useless, and valor points don't come fast enough for the people who need them to qualify for LFR).

And mock the pokemon style pet battles as you like, they're still fun and you can get some cool mini pets.

I don't feel obligated to play WoW for ridiculous amounts of time anymore, and I ca ...


Have you tried the game since 5.1? The item-upgrade really has helped. 1500JP to add 8 ilvl to a blue item, and 750VP to add 4 ilvl to a grape. I didn't have a hard time getting into LFR. I hit it last night and I'm *way* casual. That and I have a 65 Monk and 3500 PvP Res.

Some of the LFR are pretty tough, The Will encounter on Vaults is pretty difficult, actually.
 
2012-12-03 05:05:35 PM
See a few people talking about Planetside 2. Playing it now and finding it fun, however I'm lost as hell. It'd be great to tag along with some kind of community.
 
2012-12-03 05:07:53 PM

ciberido: kdogg73: tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all

This.


I believe you, and I'm an old Horde player from the Tarren Mill / Southshore PvP days. I switched and played Alliance the past few years, and after 8 years, I'm done. No reason, I just don't enjoy playing anymore. It's true what they say - the people who really leave don't post goodbye threads on the forums, because they don't care anymore.

I'm happy playing League of Legends and MLB The Show and I'm waiting to open my copy of Black Ops 2 until Xmas vacation. Now maybe if there was a cool non-medieval MMO with the ability to build/change/destroy world-persistent objects, you might get my interest.
 
2012-12-03 05:09:00 PM

Mentalpatient87: See a few people talking about Planetside 2. Playing it now and finding it fun, however I'm lost as hell. It'd be great to tag along with some kind of community.


That's an MMOFPS isn't it? That sounds like hella fun.
 
2012-12-03 05:10:05 PM

ciberido: LegacyDL: According to Warcraft lore, there should be two more expansions after this one and it's all over. According to Activision/Blizzard's lore there will be expansions until the golden goose cooks itself.

I don't know anything about Warcraft lore. Care to explain how it predicts two more expansions?


Theres other bad guys out there we (character knowledge, not just player knowledge) know about but havent faced yet or havent completely defeated yet. Other planets out there we know about (CK) but havent explored yet. Theres 2 Old Gods left we havnt killed (if we can really kill them), havent seen Azshara, queen of the sea, the Burning Legion is still out there and it looks like well be facing them again the next expansion, and then after that theres still the Titans somewhere out in the nether, and if they come back everybodys in big trouble... Yeah some of it is pretty generic, and most of it is stolen from classical and modern mythology (everything from Norse to Tolkien to Lovecraft), but the lore is pretty interesting and yeah there have been some boneheaded retcons and some things that dont make a lot of sense, but its a pretty well fleshed out universe.

This expac has been stated as sort of a breather, as in it doesnt really have a big bad. Theres influence from a dead Old God, and probably some other shenanigans going on behind the scenes (there always is), but theres not some uber powerful destroy the world as we know it guy were gonna face in the last patch like Illidan*/Lich King/Deathwing.

If anyone is interested here are a lot of good writeups of pretty much everything.
 
2012-12-03 05:11:10 PM

orbister: Treygreen13: You mean that year period where every single new piece of content predominantly featured massive PBAoE damage that reduced the role of the rogue to standing off to the side shooting with a crossbow or waiting for the encounter to end so you could be ressed? Yeah, not good times. I had to go Combat Rogue to raid and even then if I wasn't chain-dodging I'd die.

That was part of the reason I quit. There was a period where new equipment massively inflated total HP on everyone to account for the increased AoE damage, but rogue weapons were basically static. So if you were a rogue, you were playing in a low point where everyone in PvP was basically a damage sponge and all the PvE content was instant-death for you if you got anywhere near melee range. In addition, Warriors and Druids had both been buffed to the point where a Warrior could put on his Fury gear and put out comparable damage, and a Druid could go Cat or Bear and fill in for your spot, the Warrior's spot, or the Healer spot.

I think Poe's Law just kicked in.


I'm not trolling. There was really a point in the game where it was a perfect storm for Rogues to be the least-wanted class. It was common to see "LFM No Rogues" in general chat. Any needed class role could be done better by someone more durable or more versatile.

We used to get a group of 5 rogues to stealth all the way into Ogrimmar or Undercity and assassinate someone right as they finished a battleground because we were so bored. We had a great time in Alterac Valley operating as a group to cap points and burn towers behind enemy lines- but the class simply couldn't stand up to anyone in PvP for a while without jumping a wounded player.
 
2012-12-03 05:11:16 PM

Treygreen13: bim1154: Thorazine: UO was pretty awesome. I had a of fun playing 'til they gave each shard a PvE or PvP side. That's when I found out I was in the minority. Most people didn't like the PvP.

Pretty much my story too.

I didn't play it for the PvP. I played it because the friends I made in the game loved PvP and I loved helping them. My character was a 7x GM amalgamation of things I liked to do instead of making whatever was working best. I made food, healed my friends, sneaked around... fought a little when I needed to. But mostly I was a support character. And it worked.

I had more fun sitting in the little house at the crossroads healing my friends as we fought off marauding PKs than anything else I've ever done in an MMO.


I played on the Baja Server. There were 3 of us that use to hit the dungeons on regular basis. We sort of stayed away from the xroads with our PK toons. We knew every nook and cranny in the dungeons and used that to our advantage. That was back in the day when the titles were Dread Lord and Dark Lord for the bad ones. Of course I had some support mules that made stuff for support and sold off the spoils.

When I first started playing I had every intention of playing a good character, but somehow the dark side was too much to resist.
 
2012-12-03 05:13:07 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


how about the next release have sparkly vampires?
 
2012-12-03 05:14:33 PM

Garko: [gotgame.com image 500x320]


I just can't get into it. Maybe it's because I'm only around level 12 but I'm kinda bored.
 
2012-12-03 05:14:54 PM

bim1154: When I first started playing I had every intention of playing a good character, but somehow the dark side was too much to resist.


Anyone getting robbed, murdered, and backstabbed on every possible occasion eventually turns to the dark side. I operated in a support role and rarely got killed compared to most people but I still got hosed a hundred times by people. Eventually you just adapted to the cutthroat environment - while I never, ever went red I did rob a friend's home when he left it open one day. He'd never know it was me and would assume it was someone else because he screwed up so badly.

That's something I'd never do in real life and it seems bad to type it. But that was how the game was.
 
2012-12-03 05:15:18 PM

I drunk what: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

how about the next release have sparkly vampires?


Edward was the blood elves, Jacob was the Worgen.
 
2012-12-03 05:19:11 PM

Masta Kronix: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

To be fair the Panda theme was in Warcraft 3 way before that movie came out.


The idea of fighting pandas goes back at least as far as Panda Khan, which was a backup section in Colleen Doran's most excellent A Distant Soil, back when she could still do awesome pencils. (I'm not sure if her subsequent arthritis was actually caused by that work, but it wouldn't surprise me). I've wanted to play a kickass panda since then.

And, now that I've seen the movie, I think that MoP has much more in common with Panda Khan than with Kung Fu Panda. In fact, it has very little to do with Kung Fu Panda, aside from, y'know, having Asian-themed pandas in it (and on that basis, it has just as much in common with the Atlanta zoo). Anyone who says "omg, pandas, it must be based on that tacky panda movie!" is only showing the narrowness of their knowledge.

Yeah, I'm that kind of nerd, who remembers Panda Khan before it had its own book. :p

What I don't get is the people who seem to feel all self-important because they hate (WoW, EQ, Halo, computer games, whatever). Dudes, it's a computer game. Some people like it. Some people are ambivalent. Some people don't like it. I'm friends will all three kinds of people. None of them are any better than the others, at least not because of what kind of games they like. Yeah, you hate WoW. You're all jaded and cool and hip. Not.

I've been playing WoW and quitting for random numbers of months alternately since launch day. I've played Horde and Alliance, PvE and PvP, and even played on a RP server for a bit (okay, less than a month, but I did play on one). I happen to enjoy the game. It's not for everyone, and neither is Guild Wars, or Halo, or Super Mario Brothers, or Angry Birds, Pokemon, or bridge, or checkers. There's a reason game stores have more than one game on the shelf. WoW is fun for me. It's fun for ten million other people, however you want to count them ... and given the number I've run into IRL who do or did play, no matter what they do with the numbers, there are a lot out there. And there are a lot more people who don't have any interest in it at all. Neither one is somehow superior because of their preference in computer games.

People seem to have this obsession with defining groups and excluding others.

We're all in the "like to use computers" group. There are people who look down on us, y'know, because we gab on Fark instead of, I dunno, watching Jersey Shore or something.

And we're in the "read Fark" sub-group. Out of all the people who use computers, there are a lot who hold Farkers in contempt. They prefer some other aggregator, some other forum, something that isn't Fark. Divide again.

So among Farkers, there are "computer games are cool" and "computer games are a waste of time" people. The former divide into console and computer players (I'm not exactly sure where the smartphone/tablet people fit in). The console players have their own religious wars; the computer ones, of course, have been fighting the Mac/PC war for decades, with Linux love/hate a comparative latecomer to the flameage. Those further subdivide into pro/anti-MMO people. Then the selection of MMO. Love/hate WoW? EVE? GW? SWG (pre-NGE, of course!)? Shadowbane? Something else? There's a mountaintop for you to perch on and look smugly down on all those other people who aren't cool enough to play your favorite game. Then among the WoW players, there are the "hardcore" and "casual" camps, both spewing bitter hatred for the other. Among the hardcore, there are the raiders and the non-raiders. The raiders divide themselves further ... well, you get the picture.

If you want everyone to agree with you on everything, in the end the only person you will get along with is the one you see in the mirror every morning.

I think WoW/MoP is fun. A lot of fun. More fun than anything they've done since BC.

Your mileage may vary.

But no matter how much you want to be a hipster, hating on WoW (or any other game) will not make you one.
 
2012-12-03 05:23:29 PM
i301.photobucket.com

This is the WoW player you party with every day

And he's BETTER than you
 
2012-12-03 05:24:24 PM

Cpl.D: [i301.photobucket.com image 850x637]

This is the WoW player you party with every day

And he's BETTER than you


Lies. He's outdoors in the sun. Obvious fake.
 
2012-12-03 05:26:26 PM

had98c: Cpl.D: [i301.photobucket.com image 850x637]

This is the WoW player you party with every day

And he's BETTER than you

Lies. He's outdoors in the sun. Obvious fake.


Obviously he's better than you because he doesn't *have* to remain indoors at all hours to maintain his gear.
 
2012-12-03 05:27:01 PM

Treygreen13: bim1154: When I first started playing I had every intention of playing a good character, but somehow the dark side was too much to resist.

Anyone getting robbed, murdered, and backstabbed on every possible occasion eventually turns to the dark side. I operated in a support role and rarely got killed compared to most people but I still got hosed a hundred times by people. Eventually you just adapted to the cutthroat environment - while I never, ever went red I did rob a friend's home when he left it open one day. He'd never know it was me and would assume it was someone else because he screwed up so badly.

That's something I'd never do in real life and it seems bad to type it. But that was how the game was.


For me, it was kind of an alter-ego type thing. I did things in that game that are just not me in real life, but that "Wild West" feel of things in that game were spectacular back then. I think my road to the dark side was when I was out picking up "furs and pouches" (that was before things decayed) to make my gold. I ran across a little house that someone left open and there were two chests in there that were almost endless weapons and armor. Again... that was before the limit on things you could put in the bank or in chests. I spent something like 3 hours pack ratting what little I could carry to my bank and selling some. Didn't have the recall spell yet and couldn't carry all that much, but by the time the owner came back and locked the door, I had already banked and sold enough stuff to give me a really good start. Things just kind of turned after that.
 
2012-12-03 05:31:15 PM

Rug Doctor: Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


Pandarens were in warcraft 3 back in (checks) 2002. Kung Fu Panda was 2008. Just sayin.
 
2012-12-03 05:32:54 PM

bim1154: For me, it was kind of an alter-ego type thing. I did things in that game that are just not me in real life, but that "Wild West" feel of things in that game were spectacular back then. I think my road to the dark side was when I was out picking up "furs and pouches" (that was before things decayed) to make my gold. I ran across a little house that someone left open and there were two chests in there that were almost endless weapons and armor. Again... that was before the limit on things you could put in the bank or in chests. I spent something like 3 hours pack ratting what little I could carry to my bank and selling some. Didn't have the recall spell yet and couldn't carry all that much, but by the time the owner came back and locked the door, I had already banked and sold enough stuff to give me a really good start. Things just kind of turned after that.


Ha ha, reminds me of a scam we used to run out of that little crossroads house. This was right after Stealth came in the game - I was an early adopter even though that skill was a total biatch to gain. Anyway, I'd sit about 3 steps away from the house, hidden. We'd have about 4 guys hide inside in the corners, and then we'd leave the door unlocked. One of our friends would pretend to drag a big heavy pouch out of the house and tell anyone who passed by that it was unlocked and he was looting it. The mark would step inside, I'd stealth in front of the door to block his exit, and the guys inside would kill him, since he was technically trespassing. Then we'd open a gate for the guy to Moonglow so he could go get ressed and get more gear, but it would take him a while to get back or warn anyone.

We'd add his gear to the piles inside, and then wait for the next guy to come by. Good times.
 
2012-12-03 05:34:57 PM
So for those of you playing how is the CRZ thing working out? I read this thread in the WoW forums and it seems to have more drawbacks than good points. I quit about a year ago and didn't like cata as much as past expansions.
Link
 
2012-12-03 05:37:39 PM

Treygreen13: bim1154: For me, it was kind of an alter-ego type thing. I did things in that game that are just not me in real life, but that "Wild West" feel of things in that game were spectacular back then. I think my road to the dark side was when I was out picking up "furs and pouches" (that was before things decayed) to make my gold. I ran across a little house that someone left open and there were two chests in there that were almost endless weapons and armor. Again... that was before the limit on things you could put in the bank or in chests. I spent something like 3 hours pack ratting what little I could carry to my bank and selling some. Didn't have the recall spell yet and couldn't carry all that much, but by the time the owner came back and locked the door, I had already banked and sold enough stuff to give me a really good start. Things just kind of turned after that.

Ha ha, reminds me of a scam we used to run out of that little crossroads house. This was right after Stealth came in the game - I was an early adopter even though that skill was a total biatch to gain. Anyway, I'd sit about 3 steps away from the house, hidden. We'd have about 4 guys hide inside in the corners, and then we'd leave the door unlocked. One of our friends would pretend to drag a big heavy pouch out of the house and tell anyone who passed by that it was unlocked and he was looting it. The mark would step inside, I'd stealth in front of the door to block his exit, and the guys inside would kill him, since he was technically trespassing. Then we'd open a gate for the guy to Moonglow so he could go get ressed and get more gear, but it would take him a while to get back or warn anyone.

We'd add his gear to the piles inside, and then wait for the next guy to come by. Good times.


Yea... I knew that one too. One of my favorites was people wanting gates somewhere and I would gate them to either Dragon Island, where they would instantly be set upon by tons of dragons and killed. Then I would log on to my other toon who had a boat anchored at the island and I would go get the stuff. Usually I would gate the ghost to some place other than Britain or Trinsic. The other place was that one tile island out in the ocean. I wouldn't kill them but I would make them give up any goodies they had. If not, then I just left them. I got spoken to quite a few times by the GMs for that one.
Good times....
Well I could go on all day about those days but better call it a day here and get some dinner going before the wife comes home. Thanks for the memories!
 
2012-12-03 05:37:49 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: kung fu pandas are for little children and trying to turn them into a playable character in WoW was a mistake


In theory, playing a cartoonish video game is for kids, too. Note there are jokes in kung fu panda "little children" won't get, and I watched that movie as an adult and enjoyed it. The audience is the same, nothing was poisoned.

The idea of pairing kung fu (a Chinese martial art) with Pandas (an animal native to China) is something that was first done quite a bit before the last decade. Just sayin.
 
2012-12-03 05:38:51 PM

Thrakkorzog: So for those of you playing how is the CRZ thing working out? I read this thread in the WoW forums and it seems to have more drawbacks than good points. I quit about a year ago and didn't like cata as much as past expansions.
Link


CRZ sucks. The xpac is still good.
 
2012-12-03 05:39:22 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


Blizzard's... creativity?

Are you thinking of a different company, maybe? Because I'm not sure making a Dune ripoff using the Warhammer Fantasy and WH40k IPs without permission really... counts, as such.

Points for Diablo 1 for being one of the early examples of that genre not semi-turn-based, but beyond that Blizzard doesn't do creative, they do assemblies of other peoples' ideas repackaged into a frankenstein's creation with a better market presence.

I mean, I cannot deny that it works to an extent. The games are lightweight, accessible to a broad audience that would find actual, challenging examples of a given genre a bit overwhelming, and fun to play through at least the first couple of times even for people that actually play video games as a primary hobby. They're just... not creative. At all. They never have been in their entire history, and it's weird that you're questioning it now when they finally are doing something relatively new-ish with an otherwise stale IP, and not in, say, 1990 when their graphics and plotlines were stolen literally line-for-line from the Black Library.

//Admittedly I'm a bit of a strategy/tactical combat junkie, so some of my dislike for the Warcraft/Starcraft franchises stems from the lack of anything resembling proper, varied, flexible PvP.
 
2012-12-03 05:41:57 PM
Sorry Blizzard. Diablo 3 took enough of my free time away.
Was playing Final Fantasy 14 up until about 5 months ago.
Eagerly awaiting Elder Scrolls Online. Mmmmmmm
 
2012-12-03 05:46:07 PM

Worldwalker: But no matter how much you want to be a hipster, hating on WoW (or any other game) will not make you one.


What's with the recent trend of using the term "hipster" here on Fark (I don't experience it elsewhere) as an insult for anyone who may or may not do something different? I feel square for not incorporating it into my vernacular...

//have noticed people drinking PBR and wearing colorized emo clothes, though...
 
2012-12-03 05:50:05 PM
I generally don't have much room for Internet outrage, but I've officially crossed into the Blizard hate camp with Diablo III. I can take the DRM and the required connection, but the idea that they are wielding the Ban hammer on what is (despite their protestations otherwise) basically a single player game... That ain't right. Oh well, I vote with my dollars. Been Blizzard free for almost 10 years. Feels good.

/goes back to playing Kerbal Space Program
 
2012-12-03 05:54:22 PM

Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.


Pandaren: Introduced in Warcraft 3, released in 2003.

Kung Fu Panda: Released in 2008.

Who's copying who, again?
 
2012-12-03 05:55:02 PM
I'll echo the remarks of people who found that Ultima Online, at/near launch, in all it's buggy glory was the epitome of MMO fun.

It was stupidly broken, but there was so much freedom and so much fun to be had in that environment. Monsters would spawn on the wrong side of walls in dungeons (in between the brick walls your players were walking through and the rough stone wall of the cavern itself). Because there was no line of sight requirement, my bard could just march around making those monsters fight eachother to the death, which freed them up to respawn where players could actually reach them. My help and contribution was greatly appreciated by dungeon delvers who had nothing to beat on.

You could make townsfolk fight as well. My profit making scheme in the early days was to find a very hard hitting, evil NPC in a town (a wandering rogue, for example), and then provoke every good aligned schmo around to come take a few swings at them. Evil guy would kill good guy, I'd loot the good guy, and I'd gain karma because from the game's perspective, I was TRYING to rid the world of an evil villain (just failing at it).

And spellcasting monsters wouldn't cast spells at you unless you physically attacked them. So I'd wander the wilderness with a wisp or two provoked to attack me. I'd stay out of range of their melee attacks, and if any PK's attacked me I'd provoke the wisps onto them and they'd promptly get incinerated (this was back when wisps could one-shot just about anyone with flame strike). So even though my pansy-ass bard only had 25 health, she could carry her own weight. Oh, also, you'd only lose 5 Karma if you made a wisp kill someone, so I'd also occasionally whack jerks who weren't flagged as murderers but ran their mouths like they were.

And yes, I was a total jerk with the gate spell too. Everyone was. Originally, monsters could enter the gates, so you'd go down into Hythloth and put a gate between you and a room full of hellhounds. You'd stick the other side of the gate out at one of those newbie orc spawns. I didn't steal anyone's stuff in those escapades, it was just fun to watch them all running around screaming.
 
2012-12-03 06:00:03 PM

Kiwimann: my bard could just march around making those monsters fight


Oh man, that song the bard plays on his lute is burned into my brain.

Doo doo doo deee dooo deee dooodeeee dooo deooo doooo deee doooo dee doooooooo.
 
2012-12-03 06:04:23 PM

Treygreen13: had98c: GoldSpider: ignatius_crumbcake: I think TBC pretty much got the 5-mans right. Not ridiculously long but challenging enough that success wasn't assured. Anyone remember pre-nerf Arcatraz? Good times...

I remember being brought to Karazhan by my guild specifically because I was good at chain-trapping/cc-ing Moroes. In BC, hunters actually had a purpose that required skill and practice.

They didn't get it right at first. Remember 360 degree cleave trash in Zangarmarsh 5 mans? It made playing as a rogue a teeny bit frustrating.

You mean that year period where every single new piece of content predominantly featured massive PBAoE damage that reduced the role of the rogue to standing off to the side shooting with a crossbow or waiting for the encounter to end so you could be ressed? Yeah, not good times. I had to go Combat Rogue to raid and even then if I wasn't chain-dodging I'd die.

That was part of the reason I quit. There was a period where new equipment massively inflated total HP on everyone to account for the increased AoE damage, but rogue weapons were basically static. So if you were a rogue, you were playing in a low point where everyone in PvP was basically a damage sponge and all the PvE content was instant-death for you if you got anywhere near melee range. In addition, Warriors and Druids had both been buffed to the point where a Warrior could put on his Fury gear and put out comparable damage, and a Druid could go Cat or Bear and fill in for your spot, the Warrior's spot, or the Healer spot.


This is why you don't trust a rogue.
 
2012-12-03 06:04:29 PM
I didn't think I was going to get it, to be honest. I had been gone from Warcraft over a year - Playing TOR and Secret World.d

I got it on a trial after a friend of mine sent a scroll of resurrection to my account. It actually turned out to be good. There's lots of emotional heart-string tugging moments.
 
2012-12-03 06:08:46 PM

DECMATH: ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.

I'd sooner play solitaire til dawn, with the class of '51.



Those guys are not playing with a full deck
 
2012-12-03 06:11:49 PM

Snapper Carr: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I miss MUDs. Anybody know a good MUD?

MUDs are still a thing - check Mud Connector - they still have active player reviews.


Shiny! Thanks!
 
2012-12-03 06:35:45 PM

tinyarena: Wow, look at all the little girlz in this thread already

MoP is the best expansion yet, and I've been playing since vanilla WoW came out
It's just beautiful and the missions are more fun and imaginative
The new patch just made the Pandaren World PVP very much fun, there are bodies everywhere

Try it, you'll probably love it if you ever played WoW at all


This.

I haven't played WoW in over a year due to the fact that it almost ended my marriage.

However with that being said, WoW is one of the and if not THE most successful gaming franchise in history with millions of active players well after its launch date. They have amazing content and engaging social interaction which makes the game entirely addicting. It's quite possibly the most perfect video game ever made in the history of video gaming.
 
2012-12-03 07:26:38 PM

Jument: I'm sure I would enjoy it but I decided a while back that WoW had claimed enough of my life. I could see myself rolling a new toon on a new server and playing for 2-3 months just for kicks though. We'll see.


I played beta and the first 6 months after launch before I was done. It wasn't all for nothing though, I made a few hundred off surplus gold and then sold my lv60 night elf shadow priest for $800.

/I made my exit at a good time.
//They suckered me into D3 and had me for a little while, I've tried to go after the changes but can't find it appealing anymore.
 
2012-12-03 07:27:23 PM

DECMATH: ph0rk: I'd sooner count flowers on the wall.

I'd sooner play solitaire til dawn, with the class of '51.



Sure you are not dreaming of the Class of 57?
 
2012-12-03 07:32:36 PM
In a choice between lightsabers and pandas...lightsabers win.

/SW:TOR
//Sith for Slashies.
 
2012-12-03 07:33:22 PM

Rug Doctor: Hobodeluxe: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

actually Pandas were a race in Warcraft 3 back in 2002 and the game was in development way before that. When did Kung Fu Panda come out? 2008.

So rehashing a 10-year-old joke is proof of their originality?

Sorry, I'm actually not a WOW hater. But I AM a hater of their Kung Fu Panda TV campaign. Jesus Christ, I play lots of video games and I was still confused about what it was actually for.


It's not my fault you're dumb
 
2012-12-03 07:39:28 PM
When a friend and I made out exit we went to a fairly low level cliff tower village in contested territory on Kalimdor (can't remember the name) and jumped on top of the tents in town. We mind controlled any horde characters that came up the lift. We would then make them jump off the cliff, to their deaths. Over and over, they kept coming back....

/We recorded it and put it to the song, "I believe I can fly"
//Wish I could find it
 
2012-12-03 07:40:40 PM
What killed wow for me was all the stupid holiday crap. It was novel for a while but it seemed like they overlap and they never stop. Nobody ever seems to want to run anything but the holiday stuff for that time.
 
2012-12-03 07:43:35 PM

Treygreen13: ZzeusS: Battlefield. If I want to do on hour, I can do one hour.

Battlefield 3 is something I can't play for just 1 hour. I hop in a game and then look up and it's 6am.



I find myself getting annoyed more often then not. I'll either ragequit or not find any decent teams and quick out of boredom.
 
2012-12-03 07:49:32 PM

kroonermanblack: Yogimus: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

SO correct

The pandarians were introduced in like Warcraft 1 or 2.

So... Not really copying kungfu panda wife the contet predates the movie.


*citation needed*
 
2012-12-03 07:57:56 PM

fusillade762: kroonermanblack: Yogimus: Rug Doctor: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 600x338]

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the wind howling through the void where Blizzard's creativity used to be.

SO correct

The pandarians were introduced in like Warcraft 1 or 2.

So... Not really copying kungfu panda wife the contet predates the movie.

*citation needed*


Not sure about the oldest works out there but...
Here is Pandaren artwork by Sam Wise in 1999 
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-03 07:59:27 PM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-03 08:09:30 PM
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-03 08:11:11 PM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-03 08:20:46 PM
i45.tinypic.com

/For more wonderful artwork by Blizzard artists check out Link
 
2012-12-03 08:21:53 PM
I tried the fee WoW and rolled a Panda, but they won't let me roll him as a Monk (still need to pay up for that).

Maybe if I could see what sort of Bruce Lee moves I could do in the game I might be enticed into going back, but without that class to try out, all it became to me was "Bring me five goblin scrotums".
 
2012-12-03 08:40:25 PM

cyks: Onyxia Wipe Animation


Hilarious!
 
2012-12-03 09:36:04 PM

Worldwalker: We're all in the "like to use computers" group. There are people who look down on us, y'know, because we gab on Fark instead of, I dunno, watching Jersey Shore or something.


SAY IT ISN'T SO!
 
2012-12-03 09:36:26 PM

Treygreen13: Beerguy: had98c: Icetech3: Rift EQ Star Wars Galaxies is still Ultima Online was the best MMO ever made..


If you've got a half-decent GM, the best MMO ever made pales in comparison to a face-to-face RPG with your buddies...
 
2012-12-03 09:54:23 PM
Play Star Wars"The Old Republic if you have an attention span more than 5 secs. On a side note it'll surely get more popular with the new movies. But I know you won't seriosuly play anything but WoW or the next Blizzturd game.
 
2012-12-03 10:02:59 PM

PunGent: Treygreen13: Beerguy: had98c: Icetech3: Rift EQ Star Wars Galaxies is still Ultima Online was the best MMO ever made..

If you've got a half-decent GM, the best MMO ever made pales in comparison to a face-to-face RPG with your buddies...


Seriously.

Except, maybe, 4th Edition...its too much like WoW
 
2012-12-03 10:03:29 PM
I consider my affliction warlock, her disc priest sister and their eternally drunken, death knight female dwarf bodyguard retired after Wrath of the Lich King.

Didn't like the changes I read in Cataclysm, and it seemed inscription, which I made a fortune on during Wrath, became the new engineering. But without the fun toys.

That, and carpal tunnel surgery + job worries > WoW

/kind of hilarious to RP a drunken fem dwarf tanking instances and stumbling through the mazes
 
2012-12-03 10:17:37 PM

IamAwake: Worldwalker: But no matter how much you want to be a hipster, hating on WoW (or any other game) will not make you one.

What's with the recent trend of using the term "hipster" here on Fark (I don't experience it elsewhere) as an insult for anyone who may or may not do something different? I feel square for not incorporating it into my vernacular...


I wouldn't know, seeing as that's not what I use it for. Other people's mileage may vary drastically.

I think of hipsters as people who want to be "different" and "special" ... all in the same way. Sort of faux counter-culture. This includes presenting themselves as jaded and world-weary. They're the kind of people who, no matter what you're talking about -- a restaurant, a computer game, a band, anything -- always claim to know a better/cooler/more-authentic one. All form, no substance, and nothing but contempt for people who don't conform to their pattern of pesudo-nonconformity.
 
2012-12-03 10:25:35 PM
Eat a dick, Activision-Blizzard.
 
2012-12-03 10:27:59 PM
www.userlogos.org
When you're ready for real PvP.
 
2012-12-03 10:34:40 PM
No thanks, I will stick to FFXI.

/shizbgby on Quetzalcoatl server
 
2012-12-03 10:44:19 PM
Wait... The Escapist gave WoW 5 stars?

What, did they forget to consult this guy, or did they stuff him in the sewer?

media.curse.com
 
2012-12-03 10:54:48 PM
I can't believe no one has done better than WOW yet. I played that game a RIDICULOUS number of hours and finally got rather sick of it. The worst part is that you MUST waste solid blocks of hours without a break to get the best stuff. And without the best stuff, your character is just lame.
I got into RPGs because they were an escape from elitist crap, not to join some of the saddest 'elites' in the friggin world.
 
2012-12-03 11:00:15 PM

SuperDuper28: Play Star Wars"The Old Republic if you have an attention span more than 5 secs. On a side note it'll surely get more popular with the new movies. But I know you won't seriosuly play anything but WoW or the next Blizzturd game.


I think the new movies will be final and bitter end of Star Wars. A great world destroyed by it's own greedy maker.
 
2012-12-03 11:24:48 PM

PunGent: Treygreen13: Beerguy: had98c: Icetech3: Rift EQ Star Wars Galaxies is still Ultima Online was the best MMO ever made..

If you've got a half-decent GM, the best MMO ever made pales in comparison to a face-to-face RPG with your buddies...


Agreed. You are preaching to the choir.

This is my avatar pic that I use on gaming sites. 1000 XP if you can tell me what it is from.

imageshack.us
 
2012-12-03 11:27:20 PM

PepperFreak: [www.userlogos.org image 320x240]
When you're ready for real PvP.


The commercials look kinda neat. Everything else looks soul-crushing.
 
2012-12-03 11:30:59 PM

PepperFreak: [www.userlogos.org image 320x240]
When you're ready for real PvP.


upload.wikimedia.org

When you're ready for REAL PVP.

/EVE lost all legitimacy as a PVP game when it was revealed that since 2008, that multiple devs and GMs have been helping certain in-game alliances continually succeed in economy and combat multiple times.
//The CSM is a banana republic which does the same thing. And let's its members get off scott free when they tell someone at a Con to go kill themselves. 
///Comparing EVE to Warcraft is like comparing SimCity to Dungeons and Dragons. They're not meant to be anything alike. Anyone who touts either as superior to the other needs to go get a life.
 
2012-12-03 11:37:07 PM

SuperDuper28: Play Star Wars"The Old Republic if you have an attention span more than 5 secs. On a side note it'll surely get more popular with the new movies. But I know you won't seriosuly play anything but WoW or the next Blizzturd game.


TOR is not any better than WOW. It's WOW in Space, lacking much of the accessibility that WOW has.

I played TOR for seven months. I even own the collectors edition. In fact, I left Cataclysm for it, and canceled my Blizzard account at the time. The whole gimmick of every character of that class having the same story-line they have to play through, in addition to the lack of "free-form" exploration and questing got old real fast. In addition, it lacked basic features that MMOs had back in 2005, like a searchable auction house that could be organized by level, and complete dependence on group play to complete a large majority of the quests at your level. In addition, end-game content was NOT accessible to anyone outside of a large guild,

Leveling a character feels bulky. You will often outlevel the planet before even getting half-way through the story line quests in each zone. Mob placement and aggro were broken concepts when the game first dropped. it was not unusual to pull an entire local area of mobs, rather than the one you intended. Tanking felt tacked on and unresponsive.

There was no support for rebuilding your character. You either had to re-level a new character of the same class and choose the other subtype, or change your class completely.

There was absolutely no support for RP that was workable. Your characters couldn't even speech bubble.

And PVP was horrific. It was horribly unbalanced, and many of the skills were broken completely.

I wanted TOR to succeed. I really did. I had a lot of high hopes for it. But it let me down massively.
 
2012-12-03 11:38:14 PM

Beerguy: This is my avatar pic that I use on gaming sites. 1000 XP if you can tell me what it is from.


AD&D 1E Player's Handbook.
 
2012-12-03 11:42:06 PM

Beerguy: This is my avatar pic that I use on gaming sites. 1000 XP if you can tell me what it is from.


1st ed player's handbook

OG nerd. had the full original hardcover set including the uncensored copyright-infringing deities & demigods
 
2012-12-03 11:45:28 PM
* shakes +2 tiny fist of disappointment at Relatively Obscure *
 
2012-12-03 11:48:07 PM
WoW is overrun with bots these days. It's a scant fraction of their subscriber list that is actually a real live person now.
 
2012-12-03 11:56:43 PM

Tryfan: WoW is overrun with bots these days. It's a scant fraction of their subscriber list that is actually a real live person now.


Not really. At any given time, you have around a million live people playing in the Domestic US. In the three weeks I've been back, I've only seen one bot, and it was an 85 - which means it can't fly in Pandaria. It kept running into mobs near the mining sites, and getting killed.

Botting is too risky now, especially since it's easier and cheaper for them to farm dailies to sell the gold. Blizzard removed the 25 Daily Quests a Day limit, and made the gear that you could buy with Justice/Valor Points tied in with the faction reputation.
 
2012-12-03 11:59:49 PM

Tax Boy: Beerguy: This is my avatar pic that I use on gaming sites. 1000 XP if you can tell me what it is from.

1st ed player's handbook

OG nerd. had the full original hardcover set including the uncensored copyright-infringing deities & demigods


I still have a couple of full original hardcover sets including the uncensored copyright-infringing deities & demigods book among my massive gaming collection.
 
2012-12-04 01:42:59 AM

I started playing WoW in Feb. '05. I cancelled my accounts this month. I can't figure out why I played for so long:


I hate raiding, and never have time for it;
I hate the gear grind;
I can't stand most of the random players you get forced to group with;
crafting is too expensive for too little gain unless you can afford to work in huge bulk and corner the market; can't craft top tier gear unless you raid to get the bind-on-pick-up materials that only drop from raid bosses;
PVP balancing keeps ruining PVE play, and vice versa, they should be separate game systems;
ever since the group finder came online, nobody really does anything except stand around in the capital cities;
the new talent systems have progressively taken out any skill customizations (not that you could play anything but the accepted templates that ElitistJerks tells you to);
dailies - I already have a job, games shouldn't be jobs;
exploration - I already had world explorer before MoP came out, now I have to grind to 90 to get flying in Pandaria before I can unlock everything again, no thanks

They made all the things that should take effort - low level questing and leveling, so that you learn your class - too easy, while near endgame, it starts to just drag out and really become a time sink when it should be speeding up to get you ready for endgame raids, PVP, etc. Someone said it above, Blizzard is way too much into micromanaging how and when my characters gain power, and not enough into providing a place where I can have fun.

I tried GW2, but it just seemed chaotic and slow. TOR was ok, but seemed too linear with every toon going the same places with slightly altered cover stories for why they were going there.

I wish someone would make a Paranoia MMO
 
2012-12-04 01:49:09 AM

sdiphoto: I hate raiding, and never have time for it;
I hate the gear grind;


You can get Raid Gear now without raiding thanks to being able to valor cap by doing dailies. The Heroic Dungeons take all of 10 minutes, and the Scenarios are actually fun.

sdiphoto: crafting is too expensive for too little gain unless you can afford to work in huge bulk and corner the market; can't craft top tier gear unless you raid to get the bind-on-pick-up materials that only drop from raid bosses;


How is crafting too expensive? Max-level production skills (Blacksmithing, LW, Tailoring) can make bank at the release of every expansion or content patch by making new PVP gear for new 90s now, with little effort on their part. Alchemists can make even more, as they are required to transmute living iron now for max level recipes. Unless you're talking about Engineering, which was ALWAYS meant to be a gold sink.

sdiphoto: PVP balancing keeps ruining PVE play, and vice versa, they should be separate game systems;


You haven't played since late Cataclysm, then. PVP and PVE stats are now completely separate, and the skills are balanced separately as well now.

sdiphoto: exploration - I already had world explorer before MoP came out, now I have to grind to 90 to get flying in Pandaria before I can unlock everything again, no thanks


If you have world explorer now, you keep it in MOP. It doesn't get taken away.

sdiphoto: dailies - I already have a job, games shouldn't be jobs


All 30 entry dailies for the first factions take all of an hour to do.

sdiphoto: the new talent systems have progressively taken out any skill customizations (not that you could play anything but the accepted templates that ElitistJerks tells you to);


It's always been that way. If you don't use the cookie cutter build on EJ, you're not viable period in heroics or raids. Now, it's less so. Only two to three talents per tree are essential.
 
2012-12-04 02:15:02 AM
Crafting: Maybe it's just my server, or I'm doing it wrong, but I almost never get more than 25% profit. The only profit I make with my BS is on transmog gear. My tailor, LW, JC, Scribe, and Enchanter never make any money without spending significant gold on mats, since I don't raid. I don't have an alchemist, or a friend who does it, either, so at best I'm crafting blues at lower ilvl than the intro quest greens.

PVP: I actually spent the last spring and summer doing nothing but PVP, but it's true that I haven't tried MoP PVP.

Explorer: Not just about the achievement, but seeing the world. Mainly this gripe was about having to get to 90 to fly again.

Dailies: I haven't liked dailies since Tol Barad came out with them, then Firelands, and now having dailies to unlock dailies to unlock rep to unlock more dailies. Whether it takes an hour or 3 minutes, I don't want to have daily tasks in the same places from the same people doing the same things for months on end.

EJ Builds: I haven't done heroics since Cataclysm came out, and I've never raided current content (I have gone into ICC with 2 or 3 other level 85s just to see it, and some of the other raids). The fact that I can't play the way I want to play without either being ridiculed - rightly or not - by the random players I get grouped with, or being forced to make my guild carry me, made me miss out on most of the content I was paying each month to have access to.

I don't like the gear and rep gating, never have. I don't like that I have to go to youtube to research a fight before a random group will let me join their dungeon.

The fact that I get a twinge of social anxiety each time I click on the LFD tool, and I'm afraid to play any role except DPS, tells me that it's just not the game for me anymore.
 
2012-12-04 03:00:34 AM

sdiphoto:

The fact that I get a twinge of social anxiety each time I click on the LFD tool, and I'm afraid to play any role except DPS, tells me that it's just not the game for me anymore.


Sadly, this is MMO's in general. Which is why I've pretty well stopped playing them--they're not fun at all, period, and I shouldn't have to farking research for two hours to play a game.

That's what WoW and Blizzard have given the MMO world: you can't be "good" unless you use the cookie cutter shiat everyone else does, and if you don't, you are automatically "not good." The attitude spills over into every. single. game. that. exists.

WoW has killed gaming - not because of the devs, not because of the game itself, but because of the community. Don't get me wrong, BronyMedic, I understand the logic of the EJ builds and the number crunching - I'm a number cruncher myself. But the idea that I have to wear the same armor with the same enchants and gems and the same exact build, casting precisely the same spells at precisely the same time as every other healer among the 10 million people playing or get screamed at and insulted (actually, I'm a damned good healer and rarely get screamed at, but I have seen it done countless times - usually right before I kicked the asshole doing it or dropped the group myself because I do NOT put up with that shiat - ever) absolutely turns me off. Those people make Fark look like a group hug. ;)
 
2012-12-04 08:02:12 AM

Relatively Obscure: I never played anything WarCraft past 2 :\


That was a wise choice. WC3 was a step backwards, unless you count the stupid hero unit.
 
2012-12-04 08:13:36 AM
Well, the Diablo series really hooked me, and I still play 1 and 2, as well as 3. Starcraft didn't do it for me, but I still thought it was a deep, well made game.
So I thought that finally I should give WoW a chance, seeing as how it's such a BFD.
So, I started downloading it last nite, and it took all night. Now I go to login. and find that the servers will be shut down until 11:00 am this morning.
So, no WoW for me, so far. Is this going to be one of THOSE deals?
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-04 09:21:38 AM

jso2897: Well, the Diablo series really hooked me, and I still play 1 and 2, as well as 3. Starcraft didn't do it for me, but I still thought it was a deep, well made game.
So I thought that finally I should give WoW a chance, seeing as how it's such a BFD.
So, I started downloading it last nite, and it took all night. Now I go to login. and find that the servers will be shut down until 11:00 am this morning.
So, no WoW for me, so far. Is this going to be one of THOSE deals?
[i18.photobucket.com image 384x400]


If you play D3 then you are accustomed to the weekly server downtime. It's the same with WoW, it has been that way since launch. I don't know how bad it is now but it farking sucked after launch. Not only did you have the downtime but you also had extremely long queues when the servers finally came back up (if the login servers didn't outright crash from the load). My longest wait time in the queue was just under 2 hours.
 
2012-12-04 09:59:26 AM

Beerguy: This is my avatar pic that I use on gaming sites. 1000 XP if you can tell me what it is from.


2nd ed. D&D Player's Handbook?

/ it's a guess
/ swear I've seen it sometime in the 80's...
 
2012-12-04 10:00:32 AM
Actually, the full 8-hour maintenance is mostly because they just did the 5.1 patch. They try to get by with just a restart when they can, and reduce the long maintenances to every two or three weeks.
 
2012-12-04 03:27:20 PM

jso2897: So, I started downloading it last nite, and it took all night. Now I go to login. and find that the servers will be shut down until 11:00 am this morning.
So, no WoW for me, so far. Is this going to be one of THOSE deals?




Welcome to Tuesday!

They're usually back up by the time I get home from work.
 
2012-12-04 04:31:37 PM

Tryfan: WoW is overrun with bots these days. It's a scant fraction of their subscriber list that is actually a real live person now.


Go to one of the larger realms, watch Trade chat for a few minutes and then try to claim WoW is overrun with bots.

For those unsure if they want to resub, here's my two cents:

If you liked Vanilla and TBC, you'll be quite happy with Mists of Pandaria. If you liked (or joined) during Wrath or Cataclysm, you will HATE Mists of Pandaria. Currently MoP is striking a good balance between not requiring people to become attuned for raiding but strongly encouraging people to become engaged and active players. Combat is no longer a faceroll and raiding is challenging again. Raiding not your thing? There's SO much more to this game than raiding now: PvP, solo-PvE bosses, world bosses, pet battles, achievements, etc. I've played since beta and feel sorry for those just picking up the game because it's easy to become overwhelmed with the sheer amount of activities to participate in.
 
2012-12-04 05:46:47 PM

SarcasticFark: Tryfan: WoW is overrun with bots these days. It's a scant fraction of their subscriber list that is actually a real live person now.

Go to one of the larger realms, watch Trade chat for a few minutes and then try to claim WoW is overrun with bots.

For those unsure if they want to resub, here's my two cents:

If you liked Vanilla and TBC, you'll be quite happy with Mists of Pandaria. If you liked (or joined) during Wrath or Cataclysm, you will HATE Mists of Pandaria. Currently MoP is striking a good balance between not requiring people to become attuned for raiding but strongly encouraging people to become engaged and active players. Combat is no longer a faceroll and raiding is challenging again. Raiding not your thing? There's SO much more to this game than raiding now: PvP, solo-PvE bosses, world bosses, pet battles, achievements, etc. I've played since beta and feel sorry for those just picking up the game because it's easy to become overwhelmed with the sheer amount of activities to participate in.


Never having played WoW before this afternoon, I'm favorably impressed. It's seems like there is a lot going on in the game, and the world is big and cool-looking. I don't think I will be picking it up, though - buying a game is one thing - paying for a subscription would take more motivation than I have to play a game. And there is also one deal-breaker here - turn based combat. As much fun as it is running around Pandaria, just standing there and watching fights unfold doesn't do it for me. But I can see why the game is so popular and addictive, even if it isn't my cup of tea. The graphics, artwork, and animation are a lot better than I was led to expect, too.
 
2012-12-04 10:49:03 PM

jso2897: SarcasticFark: Tryfan: WoW is overrun with bots these days. It's a scant fraction of their subscriber list that is actually a real live person now.

Go to one of the larger realms, watch Trade chat for a few minutes and then try to claim WoW is overrun with bots.

For those unsure if they want to resub, here's my two cents:

If you liked Vanilla and TBC, you'll be quite happy with Mists of Pandaria. If you liked (or joined) during Wrath or Cataclysm, you will HATE Mists of Pandaria. Currently MoP is striking a good balance between not requiring people to become attuned for raiding but strongly encouraging people to become engaged and active players. Combat is no longer a faceroll and raiding is challenging again. Raiding not your thing? There's SO much more to this game than raiding now: PvP, solo-PvE bosses, world bosses, pet battles, achievements, etc. I've played since beta and feel sorry for those just picking up the game because it's easy to become overwhelmed with the sheer amount of activities to participate in.

Never having played WoW before this afternoon, I'm favorably impressed. It's seems like there is a lot going on in the game, and the world is big and cool-looking. I don't think I will be picking it up, though - buying a game is one thing - paying for a subscription would take more motivation than I have to play a game. And there is also one deal-breaker here - turn based combat. As much fun as it is running around Pandaria, just standing there and watching fights unfold doesn't do it for me. But I can see why the game is so popular and addictive, even if it isn't my cup of tea. The graphics, artwork, and animation are a lot better than I was led to expect, too.


No its not.
 
Oak
2012-12-04 11:44:01 PM
Thanks, you guys, for making me fall in love with NWN all over again....
 
2012-12-05 01:21:51 AM

Cyno01: jso2897: SarcasticFark: Tryfan: WoW is overrun with bots these days. It's a scant fraction of their subscriber list that is actually a real live person now.

Go to one of the larger realms, watch Trade chat for a few minutes and then try to claim WoW is overrun with bots.

For those unsure if they want to resub, here's my two cents:

If you liked Vanilla and TBC, you'll be quite happy with Mists of Pandaria. If you liked (or joined) during Wrath or Cataclysm, you will HATE Mists of Pandaria. Currently MoP is striking a good balance between not requiring people to become attuned for raiding but strongly encouraging people to become engaged and active players. Combat is no longer a faceroll and raiding is challenging again. Raiding not your thing? There's SO much more to this game than raiding now: PvP, solo-PvE bosses, world bosses, pet battles, achievements, etc. I've played since beta and feel sorry for those just picking up the game because it's easy to become overwhelmed with the sheer amount of activities to participate in.

Never having played WoW before this afternoon, I'm favorably impressed. It's seems like there is a lot going on in the game, and the world is big and cool-looking. I don't think I will be picking it up, though - buying a game is one thing - paying for a subscription would take more motivation than I have to play a game. And there is also one deal-breaker here - turn based combat. As much fun as it is running around Pandaria, just standing there and watching fights unfold doesn't do it for me. But I can see why the game is so popular and addictive, even if it isn't my cup of tea. The graphics, artwork, and animation are a lot better than I was led to expect, too.

No its not.


After playing a MMO like Guild Wars 2 or Aion, it certainly feels that way. It's just way too static for my tastes now.
 
2012-12-05 10:03:03 AM

carnifex2005: After playing a MMO like Guild Wars 2 or Aion, it certainly feels that way. It's just way too static for my tastes now.


The only thing turn based is the pet battles. If you feel like anything else is, try upping your haste rating, because your CDs are way too slow.
 
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