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(Orange County Register)   We are Not facing the fiscal cliff because the rich are not paying their fair share. It's because you want too many freebies   (ocregister.com) divider line 47
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2012-12-03 11:32:01 AM
5 votes:
I just want to loot the system as much as possible before it collapses.

Is that so wrong?
2012-12-03 11:43:26 AM
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Mitt Romney pays half of what I pay. Maybe taxing that farker at my rate won't balance the budget, but it would be a start.


Look, we've been told that taxing the rich won't solve all budget problems instantly, so that's clearly off the table. After all, the Republicans have already suggested debt-solving options like removing the funding for NPR and Planned Parenthood.
2012-12-03 04:34:35 PM
2 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: bradkanus: Maybe it's time for a consumption tax?

Because the poor and middle class aren't getting screwed over enough as it is?


I think he meant a tax on people with tuberculosis. Incentivize people not to get it
2012-12-03 03:41:51 PM
2 votes:
i194.photobucket.com

i194.photobucket.com
2012-12-03 03:12:37 PM
2 votes:

Jackson Herring: sprawl15: im grateful theres not enough dicks in the world for Romney to choke on, because that would be a whole lot of dicks and i don't want to see that kind of thing when I'm out eating or chopping lumber

Don't worry, the Voyager space probe has ventured beyond the solar system in search of sufficient dicks


Let the market create more dicks, I say.
2012-12-03 02:56:13 PM
2 votes:

Captain_Sunshine: Didn't someone actually play around with the numbers a couple of years ago and estimate the peak of that curve at around a 70% tax rate for the top earners? I seem to remember that, but I can't find it (and I have to get back to work).


i.imgur.com 

as you can see on this chart it is actually highest at 0%
2012-12-03 02:44:29 PM
2 votes:

mksmith: "THEIR social programs"? Republicans get no benefits from Social Security, Medicare, college loans, food stamps, or disaster relief -- is that what you're saying? Because I have an unemployed, fundamentalist, Obama-hating sister-in-law who was delighted to get in line for food stamps when she qualified following the most recent hurricane.


The difference is, Republicans deserve the benefits they get, while Democrats think they are entitled.
2012-12-03 02:24:08 PM
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Marcus Aurelius: Mitt Romney pays half of what I pay. Maybe taxing that farker at my rate won't balance the budget, but it would be a start.

I don't know for a fact. But I'm going to make a crazy guess and say Romney pays a hell of a lot more money than you do.


If he was a Real Patriotic American, he would get out of paying anything at all.
2012-12-03 12:23:23 PM
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Marcus Aurelius: Mitt Romney pays half of what I pay. Maybe taxing that farker at my rate won't balance the budget, but it would be a start.

I don't know for a fact. But I'm going to make a crazy guess and say Romney pays a hell of a lot more money than you do.


Any American that pays less dollars in tax than Mitt Romney should be taxed 100% of their income, and then thrown in prison until they can come up with the remainder.
2012-12-03 11:37:55 AM
2 votes:
Yeah, those free wars were awesome. Please sir, may I have another?
2012-12-03 11:53:50 PM
1 votes:

doczoidberg: I just want to loot the system as much as possible before it collapses.

Is that so wrong?


you sound like an old republican. Or a young democrat.

/six of one...
2012-12-03 08:08:22 PM
1 votes:
Middle eastern guys running around in the desert yelling "death to america" are not my enemy. they are a nuisance and their capabilities are quite limited. they just got lucky on 9/11.

Republicans are my real enemy because the damage they do to this Nation would make any terrorist salivate with envy.
2012-12-03 06:29:47 PM
1 votes:

Captain_Sunshine: urbangirl: Captain_Sunshine: So -

On the gripping hand, we have a cumulative failure of enjoying more government than we've paid for, for over the past thirty years. It's time to pay your bills, kids. Taxes need to go up for everybody, and stay there for a while. Or they'll have to go up even more later.

/Larry Niven is my co-pilot
//But Pournelle is my bombardier

How the hell did you get a bombadier? Will that be in my Obama gift basket?

The "gripping hand" reference is from a set of books by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. And Pournelle tends to be the more bombastic of the two.

And the "Obama gift basket" is pretty classless, really.


I've met both of these guys in LA at a book festival. They're kind of like geriatric Penn and Teller.
2012-12-03 06:17:51 PM
1 votes:

beta_plus: Everyone who makes more money than me is racist and deserves to be taxed for all of their income and possessions. That's what fair means, you racist.

/This is what Fark Libs actually believe


Wow, and I thought all the gay drama queens would be liberal. Thanks, Mr. Boehner for personally visiting this thread.
2012-12-03 06:13:36 PM
1 votes:

bradkanus: Maybe it's time for a consumption tax?


i.qkme.me
2012-12-03 06:12:48 PM
1 votes:
Everyone who makes more money than me is racist and deserves to be taxed for all of their income and possessions. That's what fair means, you racist.

/This is what Fark Libs actually believe
2012-12-03 06:03:55 PM
1 votes:
" Jews earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans, Americans are taxed like Puerto Ricans but vote like Scandinavians." The insulting Genius that is Mark Steyn
2012-12-03 04:35:29 PM
1 votes:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Elzar: These farkclowns in Washington DC just need to use the NY Times Balanced Budget calculator and we can avoid all the fiscal cliff nastiness. Its only been around for the last 2 years...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/13/weekinreview/deficits- gr aphic.html(Pops Like a motherfarker)

Wow, I picked:
Eliminate Earmarks
Reduce Federal workforce by 10% and cut 250,000 government contractors.
Reduce Military to pre-Iraq War size, Reduce Navy and Air Force Fleets, Cancel or Delay some weapons programs.
Reduce the number of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan to 30,000
President Obama's proposals on the taxes.
Reduce mortgage deduction for high-income households
And the bank tax.

And that virtually balanced the budget. I thought it would take a lot more than that.


Yeah it doesn't take much and instead we get this fiscal cliff Bukake Theatre. Throw in a few more things like rolling back tax rates to clinton levels, raise eligibility for SS and Medicare and we are not only balanced, but we are motherfarking paying down the deficit in a meaningful way...
2012-12-03 04:22:24 PM
1 votes:
I am seriously gonna *SMACK* the next stupid farking idiot who talks to me about Obama's gifts and freebies.

and I'm gonna keep doing this until I get MY freebies. I aint got nothing yet.

of course, my freebie might be room and board at the local jail
farking freeloader, that's what I'll be.
2012-12-03 04:19:14 PM
1 votes:
In total, China owns about 8 percent of publicly held U.S. debt. Of all the holders of U.S. debt China is the third-largest, behind only the Social Security Trust Fund's holdings of nearly $3 trillion and the Federal Reserve's nearly $2 trillion holdings in Treasury investments, purchased as part of its quantitative easing program to boost the economy.

China owns 8% of the country!!!

they can take alabama, mississippi, arkansas, missouri and alaska.

Enjoy china!!!
2012-12-03 04:06:33 PM
1 votes:
Source: US Dept. of Rimzzzzz
2012-12-03 03:55:45 PM
1 votes:

urbangirl: because life on welfare is SWEET!!!!


i194.photobucket.com
2012-12-03 03:46:15 PM
1 votes:
I spent Thanksgiving in the OC with relatives. Laughed my way through the Register editorials. I'm sending a case of Preparation H for Christmas.
DGS [TotalFark]
2012-12-03 03:43:48 PM
1 votes:

garron: un4gvn666:

What a colossal dumbfark you are.

Ah yes. The most precious debate tool in the arsenal of the enlightened liberal is name calling. My argument is completely invalid because I'm a "colossal dumbfark".

Oh please, please - I don't want to be a colossal dumbfark. I want to be like you. Thinking is such a waste - and working!! sheesh - who needs to do that? I want Obama to give me everything for free. He's such a savior - he can even forgive my sins, heal my diseases, stop global warming and cause everybody to share all they have with each other. Only the true sinners think they deserve what they work for. They didn't build that!!

I love you Obama!! I don't want to be a colossal dumbfark anymore!! Please save me!!! Please save us ALL!!  Please forgive me for thinking!!!


In other words: I will ignore all counterpoints and focus on how I was insulted. This proves I'm right!

Calling you a colossal dumbfark wasn't exactly kind, but you're making it harder to disagree with.
2012-12-03 03:37:26 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: Lionel Mandrake: Naw, you can't possibly be serious...can you?

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Oh FFS. Libertarian Legolas again?

Fine.

i.imgur.com

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i41.tinypic.com
2012-12-03 03:36:35 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: tenpoundsofcheese: But he contributed a lot more to the economy than you, so don't complain.

What, exactly, does a blind trust contribute to the economy?


Trust.
2012-12-03 03:34:04 PM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Corvus: I imagine you will move the goal posts once again.

Let me clear up. He made money. He was taxed. He then used that left over money to buy stuff. That is now his stuff. He then turned around and gave it to his kids.

None of this I have a problem with. I think you should be able to give away your stuff if you like especially to family members.

I hope that helps clear everything up, this didn't move a single thing but I just simplified it a little.


No he did not.

His company had private assets. They valued those assets as close to zero he paid NO TAXES on those. He gave them to kids they paid NO TAXES. Now those "worthless assets" are worth 100 million dollars and him nor his kids paid no taxes.

Why are you against people working for their own money? And you want people to get hand outs?

I believe in people working for their money.
2012-12-03 03:30:43 PM
1 votes:
All of the worlds problems are the fault of poor people, brown people, liberals and unions. Wealthy white people are not responsible for anything.

If you disagree you're going to hell.


-every conservative ever
2012-12-03 03:21:02 PM
1 votes:

un4gvn666: cameroncrazy1984: jigger: Corvus: jigger: Dusk-You-n-Me: jigger: Yeah, then we would be on solid economic footing, just like Europe.

You're snarking a claim I did not make. Go you.

You said if the US government taxed and spent like Eurpoean governments, that would drive up aggregate demand. Why would you want to drive up aggregate demand? What do you believe that would accomplish?

It would create jobs. Are you seriously this clueless? You don't think increased demand makes more jobs?

Goddam, you're a farking moron. If you're going to jump into this thing, then at least read the two posts that led up to that one. Or, just keep being a moron.

Consumer spending is 70% of our economy, and you don't see the benefit of increasing aggregate demand?

You're stupid for pointing out that he said something stupid, ya see.


Jigger thinks you should study it out!
2012-12-03 03:17:42 PM
1 votes:
2012-12-03 03:13:03 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: jigger: Dusk-You-n-Me: jigger: Yeah, then we would be on solid economic footing, just like Europe.

You're snarking a claim I did not make. Go you.

You said if the US government taxed and spent like Eurpoean governments, that would drive up aggregate demand. Why would you want to drive up aggregate demand? What do you believe that would accomplish?

It would create jobs. Are you seriously this clueless? You don't think increased demand makes more jobs?


Goddam, you're a farking moron. If you're going to jump into this thing, then at least read the two posts that led up to that one. Or, just keep being a moron.
2012-12-03 03:11:56 PM
1 votes:

jigger: Dusk-You-n-Me: jigger: Yeah, then we would be on solid economic footing, just like Europe.

You're snarking a claim I did not make. Go you.

You said if the US government taxed and spent like Eurpoean governments, that would drive up aggregate demand. Why would you want to drive up aggregate demand? What do you believe that would accomplish?


You don't see the benefit of driving up consumer demand?

Really?
2012-12-03 03:05:19 PM
1 votes:
It's not spending if the Republicans do it.
2012-12-03 03:04:54 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: im grateful theres not enough dicks in the world for Romney to choke on, because that would be a whole lot of dicks and i don't want to see that kind of thing when I'm out eating or chopping lumber


Don't worry, the Voyager space probe has ventured beyond the solar system in search of sufficient dicks
2012-12-03 03:03:37 PM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Romney pays more dollars for you. Gratitude wouldn't be uncalled for.


im grateful theres not enough dicks in the world for Romney to choke on, because that would be a whole lot of dicks and i don't want to see that kind of thing when I'm out eating or chopping lumber
2012-12-03 02:59:42 PM
1 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: tallguywithglasseson: We already have a more severely redistributive taxation system than Europe, in which the wealthiest 20 percent of Americans pay 70 percent of income tax while the poorest 20 percent shoulder just three-fifths of 1 percent. By comparison, the Norwegian tax burden is relatively equitably distributed. Yet Obama now wishes "the rich" to pay their "fair share...

I'll make a deal with you, conservative writer.

If the income and wealth disparity in the U.S. reach the same levels as Norway, I'll support a Norwegian-style tax code.

Deal?

It's a thought provoking point he has. Suppose we've two people, one making $100,000 and the other is $20,000. If was tax them both 10%, that would be $10,000 and $2,000 respectively. In this scenario, the 'rich' guy is paying 83% of the taxes, and is therefore pay well more than his fair share under what I would assume would be Steyn's "logic". Imagine someone who puts less critical thinking into their article than Thomas Sowell, who is, coincidentally, just behind Steyn at the top of the Top 50 Conservative Writers on that there derplog.


So after taxation they should be equal. As in both guys should have $18k in disposable income. So the tax rate for the guy making $20k should be 10% and the guy making $100k should be 82%.

Guys, why are you running away from me?

Guys?!? put that down!

Ow! stop throwing stones...

//Don't ask for equal. You won't like it.
2012-12-03 02:57:52 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: Captain_Sunshine: Didn't someone actually play around with the numbers a couple of years ago and estimate the peak of that curve at around a 70% tax rate for the top earners? I seem to remember that, but I can't find it (and I have to get back to work).

[i.imgur.com image 455x270] 

as you can see on this chart it is actually highest at 0%


So THAT'S what conservative math looks like on paper! As mesmerizing as I imagined.
2012-12-03 02:56:25 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Naw, you can't possibly be serious...can you?


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2012-12-03 02:49:36 PM
1 votes:

Captain_Sunshine: Didn't someone actually play around with the numbers a couple of years ago and estimate the peak of that curve at around a 70% tax rate for the top earners?


If any politician suggested that, the Koch brothers would sh*t an ingot.
2012-12-03 02:43:24 PM
1 votes:

slayer199: tallguywithglasseson: You just have to accept that 90% of libertarian arguments are prefaced with them being ordained with some sort of special vision that everyone else lacks.

That's pretty much true because in a bi-partisan world there isn't a third way that's valid. If you're a True Believer in the one of the two parties you tend to see the world as "My party is right and the other party is wrong, and anything else is dumb." The way Democrats look at libertarianism is "Lol, Somalia.' They way Republicans look at libertarians is "Godless heathens pushing drugs and hookers." Both views are caricatures of libertarianism.

I'm pragmatic enough to realize that taxes need to be raised...but I also believe the government wastes a TON of money and we're not going to get out of it without significant spending cuts. I'm not talking about the traditional way government talks about cutting spending either (which is to say, they won't increase the budgets of departments). I'm talking about actually cutting the budgets and eliminating departments altogether (lets start with DHS). If you understand how the government spends money, there's no incentive for them to be efficient. In other words, if you run an efficient department and actually save money that means the following year you get less money (well, they obviously don't need as much).

Keep flag-waving for your party...right off the cliff like a bunch of lemmings.


I see you've gone in and tried to corner the market on strawman slaying. I guess that explains the user name.
2012-12-03 02:31:28 PM
1 votes:
You mean tax payers should get something for their taxes?

Enlighten me on this new concept.
2012-12-03 02:20:31 PM
1 votes:
As Sean Hannity said, Monaco has very low taxes and have you seen it? It's like a fairytale. Low taxes on the rich can make us the next Monaco!!!
2012-12-03 02:20:03 PM
1 votes:
OC Register is the Moonie Times of California.
2012-12-03 02:14:41 PM
1 votes:
Mark Steyn

AAAAAAND I'm done reading.
2012-12-03 12:26:09 PM
1 votes:
Fine. Let's end all the "entitlement programs" and let people f*cking die. I'm sick of all of this stupid bullish*t. Who needs Death Panels when all we have to do is let people starve?

America. F*ck yeah.
2012-12-03 11:53:43 AM
1 votes:

Koggie: Yeah, those free wars were awesome. Please sir, may I have another?


"I'd like Two Unpaid Wars, please. Oh, and a side of Unregulated Banking Industry. That many calories, really? Okay, just shave off a few with a Frank / Dodd salad. Yeah, go ahead and super-size it. Thanks!"
2012-12-03 11:37:38 AM
1 votes:
When rich people get freebies, it's subsidies for job creators. When poor people get freebies, it's ENTITLEMENT.
 
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