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(Wall Street Journal)   90% of businesses plan on having holiday parties, even though 95% of workers would rather just have cash or time off   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 317
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2012-12-03 08:56:48 PM
Behavioral economics tells us that while workers say they would rather have cash equivalents rather than gifts, they will treat a Christmas party as a better gift in the long run and thus if the goal is to get workers to like the company/boss, cash is the worst, parties rule!
 
2012-12-03 08:58:12 PM

broomballwilson: Behavioral economics tells us that while workers say they would rather have cash equivalents rather than gifts, they will treat a Christmas party as a better gift in the long run and thus if the goal is to get workers to like the company/boss, cash is the worst, parties rule!


Sounds like behavioral economics tells company presidents what they want to hear -- for a large fee, of course.
 
2012-12-03 08:58:37 PM
Ours is at a museum in a couple of days, and I'm looking forward to it.
If I run out of people to avoid because I've forgotten their names,
I can take my booze over to the fish tanks and swallow enough courage
to ask someone's date out on a date.

It's gonna be superb. All I have to do is pick out a tie.
 
2012-12-03 09:00:20 PM
and the article points out exactly why Company parties fail so miserably these days. I truly miss my days of working for Big Oil where not only did I get to bring a date to the Christmas party (never had one, sadly) but for many dinners/lunches/brunches that were semi-business meetings spouses were not only allowed but encouraged. Networking, I would guess may have been my company's motive back then.

So why holiday parties suck and why we want no part of them:

Held during lunch, 30 minutes, no more, btw. Hey you weren't really planning on eating a meal were you? Come have a cookie and get back to work slave (my company last year, but I was a temp and so wasn't even permitted a cookie, alas)

No alcohol. Well ok, it's expensive and there are potential liability issues, but if it's off premises off company time and employees pay for a cash bar, who cares?

No guests/spouses. How often does one get the opportunity to take their significant other around to introduce, show off or just shove old ugly into the closet under the stairs and hire a hooker/male escort for the evening and have a little fun? Ok, I'm joking about this last one, here. But you see my point.

/company is holding no holiday party this year, but hey at least I won't be told to go have a cookie, race back to my desk and then told to be thankful for it like the poor saps of last year were told to do. And no, no bonus, no extra day off, no falalalala, at all. They like to keep the whip cracking. I need a new job
 
2012-12-03 09:22:34 PM
Squadron is having a holiday party this Friday evening. I paid for the members of my flight that wanted to go ($10-$15/ticket). We have a squadron "booster club" to raise funds through various means throughout the year. Sure, there will be drawings for prizes and such, but it really stinks being harassed to buy cookies, shirts, and other things year round to pay for a modest party that a good portion of folks can't attend because they're downrange.

/proud of the hard work people do to make the parties happen year after year with zero seed money
//it was a huge pain in the ass the year I was in charge of organizing it. Thanks VFW for letting us use your hall for free.
 
2012-12-03 09:29:33 PM
Old employer: Party sucked.
New employer: Party awesome.

Conclusion: It's better to work for a company that makes money than a company that has to convince a judge to make the customers pay.
 
2012-12-03 09:33:16 PM

Generation_D: there's cake in the break room.


i48.tinypic.com

I should probably stop and say hello.
 
2012-12-03 10:53:49 PM
Wow, you guys work for some cheap-ass companies. But I guess they've spent all their money on recruiting and training replacement employees for everyone who leaves in disgust.
 
2012-12-03 10:58:08 PM

whatshisname: Wow, you guys work for some cheap-ass companies. But I guess they've spent all their money on recruiting and training replacement employees for everyone who leaves in disgust.


That is how I feel. Mine should just start randomly hiring people since we can be sure to lose 2 employees a week.
 
2012-12-03 11:28:32 PM
I worked for too many years at a shiathole of a company (Fortune 500) whose corp. HQ "party" every year was to have a potluck where the employees brought the food. The company provided soft drinks, paper plates, plastic forks and napkins.

That was it. It's almost funny now.
 
2012-12-04 04:34:52 AM

mccallcl: Lunaville: I hated those parties so much.

Yeah no shiat, I'm sure your husband's career took a serious hit as a result of your behavior. I probably don't have to tell you (because I'm sure he already has, at volume) that you cost your family five figures with your outbursts. In order to make up for you, he probably had to sacrifice a lot at work, and your life got a ton worse, whether you realize it or not.

There are times when not having a wife and family make me feel lonely, and cheated out of the best part of life's majestic tapestry. Reading your remarks is not one of those times.


THIS. It shouldn't matter but it definitely does. He probably got passed over for a promotion because of the wife's selfish and coonty behavior. And that crack about having the husband get his resume together--jeopardizing his career because she's moderately uncomfortable at a company function--totally un-called-for.
 
2012-12-04 07:52:26 AM

Lunaville: WinoRhino: Lunaville: I hated those parties so much. Now they have a normal afternoon office party with some snacks, non-alcoholic beverages and a silly gift exchange. No spouses or kids attend and they get off work an hour or two early. Thank G-d!

This is a joke, right? Like from a movie I haven't seen or something? One where the wife is a complete psycho hose beast, kicks her husband in the testicles a lot and complains he's no fun when he asks her to stop for at least one night? And then she's completely shocked when she finds him in bed with a woman who is actually fun and offers a break from the super-regimented sex-only-on-alternating-Saturdays routine? Right?

It really wasn't about him. It was about a company and its' deranged HR people who thought they had bought outright their employees and along with their families. It's the only company I've ever heard of that has even attempted to make spouse attendance at functions mandatory. How the hell do you make anything mandatory for people who do not work for you?


gently, quietly, humbly, he asked .. why don't you just support your husband once out of the year and play nice with his colleagues, so you dont make him the joke of the company for weeks afterwards.

you haven't heard of that many companies, apparently.

normally they aren't "mandatory," normally people feel like they want to attend and bring spouses, who also feel like they want to attend. normally in a lot of companies the coworkers are friends, or at the least able to stand one another off hours for a while.

I dont know where you live or what business you're in, but it sounds really regimented, and really lame ass old bosses-and-workers sh*t, like just give you the hot cocoa sampler box and let you leave early and we'll call it good.

that being said, the tone of your reply has a lot of peoples teeth on edge. perhaps you just are being nuanced to death here, but the tone I get from your answers suggests there's more going on than just not liking the office party.
 
2012-12-04 08:05:51 AM

kindms: Lunaville: My husbands' company used to rent out a big space and host spouses and kids. They had gambling games people could buy into and possibly win money. I'm so grateful they decided that was too exorbitant. For years, I was expected to take a portion of my pay ( I worked full time before we had kids.) to purchase a dress suitable for this occasion so I could be trotted around among people I didn't know and feign interest in a company that I did not work for.

One year at one of these functions some twit announced a "mandatory" softball game and tried to bully me into playing softball. After a few polite attempts to decline, I snapped "I don't work here." Unashamed she shot back with "Your husband does." I was so pissed I shouted several feet across to my husband "Get your resume in tip-top shape tonight!" The CEO/Owner came over and told Ms. Priss she couldn't demand a mandatory game with or without people who were actually employed with the company. My husband and I left and argued for three days. Thank G-d, I was not consuming any alcohol or the incident with Ms. Priss could have been unseemly.

Then the kids came. "Oh" I said "It won't be any fun if you have to drag us along. You just go and have a great time and I'll stay home with the kids." Nope, that didn't fly. Too many people in the office were "excited to meet the kids". We had to go. Mind you, these weren't normal two to four hour office parties. These parties lasted for hours and hours and hours. I didn't drive at the time so going to the party meant the kids and I were stuck until my husband decided to leave. After four miserable hours with two babies, who were highly uninterested in the party, I started to beg to go home. Several times my husband said "Well, we'd better get going." Only to have a someone senior to him say "Oh No, you can't leave yet. We haven't had the drawing for .../ the Santa visit/ the some other highlight I could not have cared less about yet." Finally, at more than 6 hours ...


This 1000x times.

At our "all hands" meeting (2 days of meetings for me, plus the required dinner without spouses) my wife wanted to tag along.

At the end of the first night in town, she and I went out for a night cap after all the company crap was done.

At the end of this who should we run into back at the hotel lobby but my boss and his boss chatting.

Without missing a beat, she talked to both of them for several minutes: Great city, thanks for letting spouses tag along, so glad I finally get to meet you guys, etc... Its all she had to do. Social wheels greased, and done.

Its about as 180 from yelling out in public you should get your resume up to date in front of everyone.

It is simple. You don't embarrass your spouse in public, you definitely don't do it around coworkers.

The level of annoyance you're spitting out about things like the "santa visit, another thing I couldnt care less about" ... ITS NOT ALWAYS ALL ABOUT YOU.

Sometimes you just suck it up as he said and you play your role.

Why is that so damn difficult? I'm hoping the internet is just painting a worse picture than reality, but your answers have been pretty consistent. It might be worth it if you quit making your husband's once a year party all about you for once, and just did your best to play along. Let someone else be the gossip focus this year.
 
2012-12-04 04:33:12 PM
Company party confirmed: Mandarin Buffet.

Break out the pitchers of flat coke with too much ice!
 
2012-12-04 07:24:00 PM

browntimmy: JusticeandIndependence: Lernaeus: H31N0US: I assure you, your husband took a lot of shiat for your behavior, and probably still does.

What kind of skidmarks does he work for that his wife's "behavior" is a reflection on him?

Who gives a sh*t about his wife; does he do his damn job or not?

It matters. Especially at these kind of events, or even away trips.

Which is why it's best to avoid this shiat to begin with. You're being judged on how well you pretend to have fun.


This is actually a fairly important skill at a management level. In a group environment, simply being good at your job is not always good enough. There are people who have a positive impact on morale and around those people others tend to do a better job. Then there are poison employees, the ones who seem to need to feel miserable and make everyone around them miserable. Sadly, you can't fire them because creating a toxic work environment is not a fire-able offense.

So yeah, the Christmas party is an important business event pretending to be a social event because if you can't make pleasant small talk for a couple of hours with the ass from accounting you don't really have what it takes to make it to that next level.
 
2012-12-06 02:02:56 AM

dopekitty74: mccallcl: rka: shiat, how about just saying that bringing two infants to a company party probably isn't in anyone's interest in the first place?

I don't know, it could work, I'm not a pro infant wrangler. But if you know for sure it's going to be terrible, know yourself. Compromise one of your values now so you don't accidentally do it later, while everyone is watching and it's going to cost you a ton of money. Sometimes it's worse to try, no one appreciates the effort.

Lunaville indicated that once the kids came along she tried to convince hubby to let her and the kids stay home. He dragged her along anyhow.

My ex did the same thing, girls were 9months old and 5yrs old, party was in the evening, hubby didn't want to leave..

/no longer with him, but that's not the only reason


It seems like a taxicab would have been the best solution about 3-4 hours before things melted down. If a man likes to party and be social and his wife hates to, they both sound like they need to learn to smile when they don't want to and work on crisis management skills; saving a cab fare isn't worth the bad blood a big outburst can cause among coworkers, let alone each other.
 
2012-12-06 02:16:07 AM

specialkae: No guests/spouses. How often does one get the opportunity to take their significant other around to introduce, show off or just shove old ugly into the closet under the stairs and hire a hooker/male escort for the evening and have a little fun? Ok, I'm joking about this last one, here. But you see my point.


You joke, but rates on escorts actually go way up around holiday party season. Of course, you'd think it's mostly single guys buying, but you never know.
 
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