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(The New York Times)   Obama: $1.6 trillion in taxes on the wealthy, $50 billion in short-term stimulus spending and $612 billion in recycled cuts. GOP: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. Obama: Ok...what's YOUR proposal then? GOP: *crickets*. The Party of 'No' is back, baby   (nytimes.com) divider line 32
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2012-12-03 11:48:19 AM
13 votes:
Maybe Boehner DID make an offer, but his statesmanlike words of compromise were muffled by Grover Norquist's testicles?
2012-12-03 11:35:14 AM
7 votes:

eraser8: Tigger: You are a farking crazy person.

Which is exactly why you shouldn't be responding to him.


The whole premise of this site is responding to crazy people.
2012-12-03 12:32:58 PM
6 votes:
Obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. He wants those large cuts to defense to go into effect. He wants the economy to crash again. When it does, he can introduce new reforms that will significantly expand the reach and power of the federal government.

i.imgur.com
2012-12-03 01:13:24 PM
5 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: No subby is wrong with her headline.

The article says: " his answer boils down to this: you first." so as is typical, 0bama does not have a specific proposal only campaign slogans.

Besides 0bama has never said how his proposed tax cuts are going to create jobs or what he is going to do to deal with the other 90% of his reckless spending.


Hey the "0" stands for how many times "President" Obama has lost to republicans, or was it the number of times he's started a war, or maybe the number of Terrorist attacks on US soil since his administration begin?

I Always forget so you'll have to help me out!
2012-12-03 12:07:39 PM
4 votes:

sammyk: Trying to follow the logic here.


Well there's your problem.
2012-12-03 10:30:40 AM
4 votes:

mrshowrules: I expressed a willingness to put the garbage out this morning. Didn't do it but I was willing.


Well you can just make Mr. How Rules do it for you anyway so who cares
2012-12-03 09:39:59 AM
4 votes:

whistleridge: Republicans erupted in outrage, though they produced no specific alternative. Instead, they noted they had expressed newfound willingness since the election to increase tax revenue by limiting deductions for the wealthy, though not by raising rates.

Oh, well since they've expressed willingness, it's all good then. I mean, how can you possible expect them to go all the way to doing something, after using up all that goodwill and energy to express willingness? Why does Obama refuse to work with them, when they're trying so hard to help the ri- er, the country?


I expressed a willingness to put the garbage out this morning. Didn't do it but I was willing.
2012-12-03 10:24:30 AM
3 votes:

RexTalionis: Close election? As of 15 hours ago, Obama had 4,632,588 more votes than Romney.


Yeah, but how many of those were from people making $50,000/yr. or more? You know, Real People.
2012-12-03 12:55:17 PM
2 votes:
oi50.tinypic.com
2012-12-03 12:43:23 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: they don't have a plan for Obama getting re-elected.


Actually their "Let's Elect Romney" strategy worked very well for the President's re-election.
2012-12-03 12:43:01 PM
2 votes:
surplus?
Tax cuts for the rich
Deficit?
Tax cuts for the rich
War in Iraq?
Tax cuts for the rich
War in Afghanistan?
Tax cuts for the rich
High unemployment?
Tax cuts for the rich
Day that ends in Y
Tax cuts for the rich
2012-12-03 12:38:43 PM
2 votes:

mrshowrules: whistleridge: Republicans erupted in outrage, though they produced no specific alternative. Instead, they noted they had expressed newfound willingness since the election to increase tax revenue by limiting deductions for the wealthy, though not by raising rates.

Oh, well since they've expressed willingness, it's all good then. I mean, how can you possible expect them to go all the way to doing something, after using up all that goodwill and energy to express willingness? Why does Obama refuse to work with them, when they're trying so hard to help the ri- er, the country?

I expressed a willingness to put the garbage out this morning. Didn't do it but I was willing.


A newfound willingness? Was that a change from "when the n****r burns in hell" to "when he eats the peanuts outta my shiat"?
2012-12-03 11:40:35 AM
2 votes:

GAT_00: eraser8: Tigger: You are a farking crazy person.

Which is exactly why you shouldn't be responding to him.

The whole premise of this site is responding to crazy people.


I agree.

crashchords.com
2012-12-03 03:33:07 PM
1 votes:

Debeo Summa Credo: jst3p: Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Debeo Summa Credo: Better to let them all end, or extend them all for another temporary period

So it makes more fiscal sense to extend it for the 100% instead of for the 98%?

If you told me that this was all we were going to get as far as increased revenue, then extending only for the 98% is better. But we should go back to all the Clinton era rates across the board. Deferring is a better bet to get back there.

From your perspective, is it better to extend for noone than to extend for all? Because those'r looking like the options that the dems are going to get.

Are you as confident about this as you were about Romney's election?

What makes you think I believed Romney would win? I voted for Obama. I just didnt think Romney was the evil monster you guys thought he was. Which of course for fark makes me right of pat Buchanan.


Was it hard to pull the lever for Obama with both hands full of all the water you carry for the right?
2012-12-03 03:25:27 PM
1 votes:

Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Debeo Summa Credo: Better to let them all end, or extend them all for another temporary period

So it makes more fiscal sense to extend it for the 100% instead of for the 98%?

If you told me that this was all we were going to get as far as increased revenue, then extending only for the 98% is better. But we should go back to all the Clinton era rates across the board. Deferring is a better bet to get back there.

From your perspective, is it better to extend for noone than to extend for all? Because those'r looking like the options that the dems are going to get.


Please, PLEASE let the Republicans vote down a bill of tax cuts for 98% of Americans after we hit the cliff. I want their asses to be mounted on the wall for it in 2014.
2012-12-03 02:13:07 PM
1 votes:

aug3: Fartbongo hasn't passed a budget in 4 years, but is responsible for reckless spending?


Trying to find logic in a conservative argument will only lead to splitting headaches and excessive alcohol consumption.
2012-12-03 01:57:25 PM
1 votes:

un4gvn666: Brubold: keylock71: Brubold

keylock71: Brubold: It would help if Obama had even started to meet them halfway.

Bullshiat. It's the GOP that needs to move closer to Obama's position.


Actually both sides should be willing to negotiate. It's what used to make our government work. It's what got us into such great shape during Clinton's time in office for instance. At least regarding the deficit anyway.

Two problems:
1) The Republicans lost the most recent election, and lost badly. They have no ground to stand on in this negotiation, because Obama has taken the position a clear majority of Americans support.

2) The Republicans during the Clinton era were not mindless ignorant reactionaries (at least not to this extent), and they did not oppose every legislation put in front of them, including their own previous policies, because Clinton was not black.

This reality is not that one.


The Republicans have no ground? See it's that kind of thinking that's the problem. It's the old Obama, "I won" nonsense. The Republicans run Congress atm so they have plenty of ground. If/when Obama gets off his pedestal and realizes this, things will run much more smoothly.

I'm not saying the Republicans aren't being just as obstinate but a good leader leads the way.
2012-12-03 01:26:12 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: randomjsa: Obama: Here's a train wreck in the making

GOP: How bout no?

Liberals: The party of NO! Waaah!

Who won the election. Where is the GOP plan?


I have the GOP plan right here.

blogs.kansas.com

Counter that Libtard!
2012-12-03 01:22:58 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. He wants those large cuts to defense to go into effect. He wants the economy to crash again. When it does, he can introduce new reforms that will significantly expand the reach and power of the federal government.


You need to go tell the nurse you palmed your meds Instead of taking them before she read your post and revokes your Internet privileges again.
2012-12-03 01:22:20 PM
1 votes:
Obama: Here's a train wreck in the making

GOP: How bout no?

Liberals: The party of NO! Waaah!
2012-12-03 01:12:53 PM
1 votes:

JerseyTim: The Republicans don't want to negotiate. They want Obama to negotiate against himself. They're not going to offer counter proposals, they're only going to feign outrage at everything Obama does.


It would help if Obama had even started to meet them halfway. From what I've seen so far his proposal has no entitlement reform and didn't add any spending cuts.
2012-12-03 01:08:12 PM
1 votes:
No subby is wrong with her headline.

The article says: " his answer boils down to this: you first." so as is typical, 0bama does not have a specific proposal only campaign slogans.

Besides 0bama has never said how his proposed tax cuts are going to create jobs or what he is going to do to deal with the other 90% of his reckless spending.
2012-12-03 12:52:54 PM
1 votes:

Spanky_McFarksalot: surplus?
Tax cuts for the rich
Deficit?
Tax cuts for the rich
War in Iraq?
Tax cuts for the rich
War in Afghanistan?
Tax cuts for the rich
High unemployment?
Tax cuts for the rich
Day that ends in Y
Tax cuts for the rich



encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

Whats that, Lassie? You say the rich need more tax cuts?
2012-12-03 12:51:34 PM
1 votes:

Rattlehead: Where's that farking weasel Paul Ryan, their supposed numbers guy?


He's not giving specifics, but he's got a great plan... Trust him.
2012-12-03 12:45:55 PM
1 votes:
Who wants to email Boehner's office asking they actually offer specifics as a citizen and voter?

Hell, maybe just email every GOP rep asking for specifics, as concerned constituents.

I'd hate to think the GOP reps are only getting "YEAH! Stand your farking ground!!" (whatever the fark that may be) emails from supporters.
2012-12-03 12:44:59 PM
1 votes:
i was told eliminating earmarks would solve the budget crisis. i'm outraged
2012-12-03 12:41:26 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: Fart_Machine: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if the President has heard of Paul Krugman? Cause he has done nothing but biatch about the Republican plan, I guess he saw one.

Close unspecified loopholes is a tax plan now?

It's sort of like how those crazy purge diets cleanse your body of unspecified toxins


it has echinacea

clears the bad humors
2012-12-03 12:38:51 PM
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if the President has heard of Paul Krugman? Cause he has done nothing but biatch about the Republican plan, I guess he saw one.

Close unspecified loopholes is a tax plan now?


It's sort of like how those crazy purge diets cleanse your body of unspecified toxins
2012-12-03 11:30:42 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. He wants those large cuts to defense to go into effect. He wants the economy to crash again. When it does, he can introduce new reforms that will significantly expand the reach and power of the federal government.


You are a farking crazy person.
2012-12-03 11:28:43 AM
1 votes:
Obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. He wants those large cuts to defense to go into effect. He wants the economy to crash again. When it does, he can introduce new reforms that will significantly expand the reach and power of the federal government.
2012-12-03 09:41:13 AM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: whistleridge: Republicans erupted in outrage, though they produced no specific alternative. Instead, they noted they had expressed newfound willingness since the election to increase tax revenue by limiting deductions for the wealthy, though not by raising rates.

Oh, well since they've expressed willingness, it's all good then. I mean, how can you possible expect them to go all the way to doing something, after using up all that goodwill and energy to express willingness? Why does Obama refuse to work with them, when they're trying so hard to help the ri- er, the country?

I expressed a willingness to put the garbage out this morning. Didn't do it but I was willing.


You may be on to something there. I think I'm going to express a willingness to go to work today, but stay home and collect my paycheck anyway. Score!
2012-12-03 09:23:18 AM
1 votes:
Republicans erupted in outrage, though they produced no specific alternative. Instead, they noted they had expressed newfound willingness since the election to increase tax revenue by limiting deductions for the wealthy, though not by raising rates.

Oh, well since they've expressed willingness, it's all good then. I mean, how can you possible expect them to go all the way to doing something, after using up all that goodwill and energy to express willingness? Why does Obama refuse to work with them, when they're trying so hard to help the ri- er, the country?
 
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