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2012-12-03 05:35:02 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: And what did the Governor do? Rebuff her ass.


In more than one way!
 
2012-12-03 05:43:48 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry, I disagree shes lured by the seeming normal life but has been getting more worried about things like the pit fights and shes not happy about not being able to help out. I'm sure she would have rationalized all that even the walker heads for the perceived safety of the town but seeing Daryl, I think she now knows her group is out there and they wouldn't have done the attack for now reason.


Except the pit fights only worried her because she liked them too much herself. The head tank may have messed things up for her, but it seems like she's too quick to buy the gov's explanation. As far as she can tell, she has this idyllic existence in a place that seems completely safe to her. She may rationalize the attack as Rick not wanting to give up control of the group, so they went after Woodbury for supplies. This may make her have a difficult time believing the truth, because she appears nearly brainwashed by the gov at this point. Willing to believe anything that keeps her life as is(IE: in a safe place, shacking up with the man in charge, etc).

I understand your side of things, and it's certainly a possibility. But after everything she's been through, I think the illusion that is Woodbury is too much for her to let go of. Especially since she feels like the group abandoned her.

Possibility #3: She may think the group found out she was in Woodbury and came back for her, rather than the truth which is Maggie and Glen(since they don't know she's there). That could spin off into an interesting direction should that be the case.
 
2012-12-03 05:45:13 PM

groppet: FunkOut: Something tells me Andrea was a very irritating person before the whole apocalypse.

Well she was a civil rights lawyer. So Im sure she annoyed the shiat out of judges, lawyers and other assorted malcontents


Lawyer? Explains why she just seemed to like arguing for arguings sake.
 
2012-12-03 05:56:27 PM

Big Beef Burrito: If you are a black guy on The Walking Dead, you shoot every other black guy you see. Its the only way to stay safe.


That's the conclusion we came to last night too.
 
2012-12-03 06:00:32 PM
During the scuffle, a walker bites Big Tiny

I've said it before and I'll say it again: BIG TINY DID NOT GET BITTEN.
 
2012-12-03 06:02:42 PM

Strategeryz0r: tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry, I disagree shes lured by the seeming normal life but has been getting more worried about things like the pit fights and shes not happy about not being able to help out. I'm sure she would have rationalized all that even the walker heads for the perceived safety of the town but seeing Daryl, I think she now knows her group is out there and they wouldn't have done the attack for now reason.

Except the pit fights only worried her because she liked them too much herself. The head tank may have messed things up for her, but it seems like she's too quick to buy the gov's explanation. As far as she can tell, she has this idyllic existence in a place that seems completely safe to her. She may rationalize the attack as Rick not wanting to give up control of the group, so they went after Woodbury for supplies. This may make her have a difficult time believing the truth, because she appears nearly brainwashed by the gov at this point. Willing to believe anything that keeps her life as is(IE: in a safe place, shacking up with the man in charge, etc).

I understand your side of things, and it's certainly a possibility. But after everything she's been through, I think the illusion that is Woodbury is too much for her to let go of. Especially since she feels like the group abandoned her.

Possibility #3: She may think the group found out she was in Woodbury and came back for her, rather than the truth which is Maggie and Glen(since they don't know she's there). That could spin off into an interesting direction should that be the case.


I see wait you're saying, also she might not know Daryl is still with Ricks group. I think that's why the writers had her say she only saw two-Dog/Oscar during the raid. I'm really hoping she steps up, I do believe her character has come along way from the attack in the Winnebago on the highway to now. Also I think the show has done a good job on showing why all these people are following the Governor, their all trading freedom for security so to speak.
/ This next part of the season looks like it's gonna be a hell of a ride.
 
2012-12-03 06:02:56 PM
My theory on the end of the governor. The culminating final battle at the prison leaves Woodbury underprotected and the walls fall. In his urgency to take the prison the Gov dresses up as Humongus and Andrea in a slave girl outfit (chain and all). The Gov rams the military transport into the prison fences and they are damaged beyond any repair and in her anger at losing the prison Andrea chokes the Gov with her chain. All the while Daryl saves Rick from falling off the prison roof and into a teaming courtyard full of Zs.
 
2012-12-03 06:09:20 PM

trickymoo: syberpud: trickymoo: Mentat: I for one am glad to see that even after the fall of civilization, Glenn and Maggie still support the right to bear arms.

Jesus tap-dancing christ that was farking incredibly bad-ass. Glenn has been holding back. I have been keeping up with the comics, which make the show seem like kiddie time. Honestly, last night I was expecting the govenor to lose an arm.

Putting an eye patch on is easier than a fake missing arm. :)

Hershel's leg?


As someone said on Talking Dead last night: If you combine the Governor, Hershel and Merle you have an actual pirate!
 
2012-12-03 06:10:53 PM

FunkOut: groppet: FunkOut: Something tells me Andrea was a very irritating person before the whole apocalypse.

Well she was a civil rights lawyer. So Im sure she annoyed the shiat out of judges, lawyers and other assorted malcontents

Lawyer? Explains why she just seemed to like arguing for arguings sake.


I'd pay good money to see a pre-zombie reboot of "Ally McBeal" with Michonne in the lead role.

/probably would scare off the Omnicrons in addition
 
2012-12-03 06:17:11 PM
About that piece of glass Michonne jammed into the Gov's eye: seems like you could get all sorts of nasty infections from Zombie Head Aquarium Juice.
 
2012-12-03 06:18:39 PM
www.amctv.com


Why did it all turn out like this for me? I had so much promise. I was personable, I was bright. Oh, maybe not academically speaking, but ... I was perceptive. I always know when someone's uncomfortable at a party. It became very clear to me sitting out there today, that every decision I've ever made, in my entire life, has been wrong. My life is the opposite of everything I want it to be. Every instinct I have, in every of life, be it something to wear, something to eat ... It's all been wrong.
 
2012-12-03 07:01:05 PM
I mostly agree with the criticisms of Andrea's character so far, but they've toned down the Governor's character so much that most people in her position would probably think "Okay, this place/guy is weird, but I'm not being devoured by the undead, so I think I can deal." Of course, I think all that's about to change with what she found out at the end of this episode, but the Governor's evil is a lot less obvious in the show than it is in the comics.
/I'm actually glad they've toned down the Governor
//I can do without the rape and the extra stuff with his zombie daughter
 
2012-12-03 07:23:37 PM
If we're voting for most annoyingly dragged-out, pointless moment, I'm going with Maggie's story about her sister and the birth control pills.

If she'd been disrobing while telling it, I would have a different opinion.
 
2012-12-03 07:45:37 PM
I knew U-dogg wasnt gonna make it through the next episode after he displayed disgust at Michonne killing random cabin dude last episode. And now with boxer guy from The Wire were onto V-dogg i guess.

/i hope they use every one of his lines from l4d2
 
2012-12-03 07:49:44 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: I mostly agree with the criticisms of Andrea's character so far, but they've toned down the Governor's character so much that most people in her position would probably think "Okay, this place/guy is weird, but I'm not being devoured by the undead, so I think I can deal." Of course, I think all that's about to change with what she found out at the end of this episode, but the Governor's evil is a lot less obvious in the show than it is in the comics.
/I'm actually glad they've toned down the Governor
//I can do without the rape and the extra stuff with his zombie daughter


I haven't read the comics but I believe the shows Governor is very believable and well done the slow exposing of just how creepy and messed up he is really works, and truthfully I think Andrea's character has just been sorta used to shine light on what's happening in Woodbury although her character motivations of wanting safety and normalcy for me at least is easy to understand. She lost her group traveled with Mishone who never talked and they were constantly in danger.

Also I think Mishone who might not talk much is really gonna step up. I mean until Andrea she was alone with her pets since it all started as far as we know. So losing social skills seems obvious.
 
2012-12-03 07:57:18 PM
To be fair, I don't see why Andrea would get too freaked out by the head aquarium given that she's aware of the experimentations going on in town with the biters. In fact, finding out about Penny probably answers the whole "why bother with the experiments in the first place" issues she has.
 
2012-12-03 08:11:26 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: Governor's evil is a lot less obvious in the show than it is in the comics.
/I'm actually glad they've toned down the Governor
//I can do without the rape and the extra stuff with his zombie daughter


Agreed. The gripe I had about the Governor in the comic book was he was too cartoonish, a very over the top villain. I was worried that seeing seeing the same version on the show would snap me out of the realism (don't laugh) of the show. At least the show's version is plausible - and what a great actor.

And what extra stuff about his zombie daughter? I thought they covered everything from the comics? Sure, she was beheaded in the comic version, but I think this sword-through-mouth version was just as brutal. Am I forgetting something, besides the castration and amputation of the Governor?
 
2012-12-03 08:11:46 PM

snowshovel: To be fair, I don't see why Andrea would get too freaked out by the head aquarium given that she's aware of the experimentations going on in town with the biters. In fact, finding out about Penny probably answers the whole "why bother with the experiments in the first place" issues she has.


Good point I think she's also thinking about how she reacted when her sister was bitten. She didn't want to put down her sister granted she's come along way but I can see how she could rationalize that.
 
2012-12-03 08:14:50 PM

The Banana Thug: Mr. Chainsaw: Governor's evil is a lot less obvious in the show than it is in the comics.
/I'm actually glad they've toned down the Governor
//I can do without the rape and the extra stuff with his zombie daughter

Agreed. The gripe I had about the Governor in the comic book was he was too cartoonish, a very over the top villain. I was worried that seeing seeing the same version on the show would snap me out of the realism (don't laugh) of the show. At least the show's version is plausible - and what a great actor.

And what extra stuff about his zombie daughter? I thought they covered everything from the comics? Sure, she was beheaded in the comic version, but I think this sword-through-mouth version was just as brutal. Am I forgetting something, besides the castration and amputation of the Governor?


I'm really gonna have to get the comics aren't I.
 
2012-12-03 08:14:58 PM
Hey, I'm not where I can review this scene at the moment. I remember that Penny was killed when Michonne rammed a sword through her head, which then went through her mouth. As I recall, it seemed pretty straight through.

Just wondering how much brain can have been damaged that way in order to kill her, and how much damage to which parts of a brain is supposedly necessary. I guess maybe some brain stem could've been nicked, but I dunno.

I know that sounds a little silly, and I'm not all that worried about it either way. Clearly dead and it was clearly cool. Just wondering.
 
2012-12-03 08:28:09 PM

Relatively Obscure: Hey, I'm not where I can review this scene at the moment. I remember that Penny was killed when Michonne rammed a sword through her head, which then went through her mouth. As I recall, it seemed pretty straight through.

Just wondering how much brain can have been damaged that way in order to kill her, and how much damage to which parts of a brain is supposedly necessary. I guess maybe some brain stem could've been nicked, but I dunno.

I know that sounds a little silly, and I'm not all that worried about it either way. Clearly dead and it was clearly cool. Just wondering.


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If it went through the cerebellum that would do it I would think.
 
2012-12-03 08:30:48 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: If it went through the cerebellum that would do it I would think.


Yeah, probably. I just can't remember how that sword appeared to go through and how much "brain damage" could have been possible from that. Just something I suddenly became curious about.
 
2012-12-03 08:31:45 PM

Relatively Obscure: Hey, I'm not where I can review this scene at the moment. I remember that Penny was killed when Michonne rammed a sword through her head, which then went through her mouth. As I recall, it seemed pretty straight through.

Just wondering how much brain can have been damaged that way in order to kill her, and how much damage to which parts of a brain is supposedly necessary. I guess maybe some brain stem could've been nicked, but I dunno.

I know that sounds a little silly, and I'm not all that worried about it either way. Clearly dead and it was clearly cool. Just wondering.


I wouldn't think about it too hard. At the CDC the scan they watched showed no activity outside a very small area.

images1.cliqueclack.com

How you're going to hit that part of the brain with some of the weapons they use is beyond me.
 
2012-12-03 08:40:09 PM

fusillade762: I wouldn't think about it too hard. At the CDC the scan they watched showed no activity outside a very small area.

images1.cliqueclack.com

How you're going to hit that part of the brain with some of the weapons they use is beyond me.




Yeah, I realize that. I'm pretty easy to please, and enjoy the show. This won't cause me to fret; it's just a thought that popped into my head while at work.

"Hey, how much brain do you have to get? Which parts? Hey, could she even have struck ANY brain?" I know there's probably not a real or consistent answer for the general questions. Maybe for the last bit.

Either way, I enjoyed the shiat out of that last episode.
 
2012-12-03 08:40:48 PM
And you're right. They pretty clearly haven't been hitting that 'active' bit more than a few times.
 
2012-12-03 08:44:34 PM

Relatively Obscure: fusillade762: I wouldn't think about it too hard. At the CDC the scan they watched showed no activity outside a very small area.

images1.cliqueclack.com

How you're going to hit that part of the brain with some of the weapons they use is beyond me.



Yeah, I realize that. I'm pretty easy to please, and enjoy the show. This won't cause me to fret; it's just a thought that popped into my head while at work.

"Hey, how much brain do you have to get? Which parts? Hey, could she even have struck ANY brain?" I know there's probably not a real or consistent answer for the general questions. Maybe for the last bit.

Either way, I enjoyed the shiat out of that last episode.


Hell yes, this whole season so far has been so good, and really I was okay with farm stuff I thought it was some good character development but wow this season so far is just amazing.
 
2012-12-03 08:49:55 PM
I'm constantly having to talk myself out of my annoyance at all the paper mâché heads. It's absolutely retarded how easily skulls bust open on that show.

But the show is good enough I can keep telling myself they're already mostly decayed and ignore the rest of it.
 
2012-12-03 08:51:25 PM
I want more flashbacks. no, not just 'cause ell ess dee

I guess I enjoy watching the world fall apart and everyone's reactions to it more than the dull day to day survival afterward

the shorts on amc's website are okay....Just wish there were more of them. and that the chained up lady in the cold storage facility would have been wearing less.
 
2012-12-03 08:54:11 PM

Big Beef Burrito: If you are a black guy on The Walking Dead, you shoot every other black guy you see. Its the only way to stay safe.


It's gotta be some kind of running joke for the creators at this point.
 
2012-12-03 09:02:10 PM

Omahawg: I want more flashbacks. no, not just 'cause ell ess dee

I guess I enjoy watching the world fall apart and everyone's reactions to it more than the dull day to day survival afterward

the shorts on amc's website are okay....Just wish there were more of them. and that the chained up lady in the cold storage facility would have been wearing less.


I agree with you on the back stories but I'm glad their not over doing them. I would like to see Mishones.
/And I'm gonna have to check out the shorts, hmmm.
 
2012-12-03 09:27:26 PM

trickymoo: syberpud: trickymoo: Mentat: I for one am glad to see that even after the fall of civilization, Glenn and Maggie still support the right to bear arms.

Jesus tap-dancing christ that was farking incredibly bad-ass. Glenn has been holding back. I have been keeping up with the comics, which make the show seem like kiddie time. Honestly, last night I was expecting the govenor to lose an arm.


Putting an eye patch on is easier than a fake missing arm. :)

Hershel's leg?


They threw away a perfectly good shiv!
 
2012-12-03 09:29:10 PM
I was shocked to see someone simply punching a zombie (for the first time ever, in any show or movie that I can remember).

If you knock it's damned jaw off you're safe.

Sometimes the most effective solutions are the simplest.
 
2012-12-03 09:37:03 PM
Is it in any way ironic that, given the many decades of collective thought experiment training and problem-solving exercises people have voluntarily put themselves through, they're better prepared for an "inevitable zombie apocalypse" than an asteroid impact or series of major global volcanic eruptions?

Not for those who've bought safe passage off the doomed Planet of the Clocks...
 
2012-12-03 10:34:55 PM

scalpod: trickymoo: syberpud: trickymoo: Mentat: I for one am glad to see that even after the fall of civilization, Glenn and Maggie still support the right to bear arms.

Jesus tap-dancing christ that was farking incredibly bad-ass. Glenn has been holding back. I have been keeping up with the comics, which make the show seem like kiddie time. Honestly, last night I was expecting the govenor to lose an arm.


Putting an eye patch on is easier than a fake missing arm. :)

Hershel's leg?

They threw away a perfectly good shiv!


Hey, that sort of thing is fine for a biters forearm but show Hershel some respect : )
 
2012-12-03 11:25:58 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: If it went through the cerebellum that would do it I would think.


Severing the spinal cord would also do it.
 
2012-12-03 11:29:23 PM

Mr. Eugenides: tinfoil-hat maggie: If it went through the cerebellum that would do it I would think.

Severing the spinal cord would also do it.


unless you want to get all snappy in the governor's fish tank, I guess
 
2012-12-03 11:39:48 PM

Mr. Eugenides: tinfoil-hat maggie: If it went through the cerebellum that would do it I would think.

Severing the spinal cord would also do it.


There were a whole bunch of "alive" zombies with spinal cords that had been quite severed.
 
2012-12-03 11:55:40 PM

QT_3.14159: I'm constantly having to talk myself out of my annoyance at all the paper mâché heads. It's absolutely retarded how easily skulls bust open on that show.

But the show is good enough I can keep telling myself they're already mostly decayed and ignore the rest of it.


Yeah, the bodies have been dead for a year now, and many are "wounded" anyway, so I have no problem with how easily blades are going through skulls.
 
2012-12-03 11:56:36 PM

Omahawg: Mr. Eugenides: tinfoil-hat maggie: If it went through the cerebellum that would do it I would think.

Severing the spinal cord would also do it.

unless you want to get all snappy in the governor's fish tank, I guess


Yea, decapitation leaves the head alive but a sword through the back of the head out the mouth seems to do it.

WW Z always pissed me off because the writer discounted the traumatic brain injury caused by concussion from high explosive shelling in the battle of Yonkers.
 
2012-12-04 12:01:13 AM

Mike Chewbacca: Yeah, the bodies have been dead for a year now, and many are "wounded" anyway, so I have no problem with how easily blades are going through skulls.


And entire human bodies, especially if you have a magical omgjapanesesword. 'Cause many nerds freakin' love those things.

tinfoil-hat maggie: WW Z always pissed me off because the writer discounted the traumatic brain injury caused by concussion from high explosive shelling in the battle of Yonkers.


That's the one thing? ;)
 
2012-12-04 12:06:11 AM

Relatively Obscure: Mike Chewbacca: Yeah, the bodies have been dead for a year now, and many are "wounded" anyway, so I have no problem with how easily blades are going through skulls.

And entire human bodies, especially if you have a magical omgjapanesesword. 'Cause many nerds freakin' love those things.

tinfoil-hat maggie: WW Z always pissed me off because the writer discounted the traumatic brain injury caused by concussion from high explosive shelling in the battle of Yonkers.

That's the one thing? ;)


Hey don't mess with someone that knows how to use one bad news I saw Kill Bill : )

And no, but did you wanna be here all night while I say whats wrong with WW Z?
/I will say it was a fun read but...oh, well.
 
2012-12-04 12:13:59 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Hey don't mess with someone that knows how to use one bad news I saw Kill Bill : )


That applies to ... everything. But sometimes, the magical properties these seem to take on get a bit silly. Of course, guns get silly quite often, too.

tinfoil-hat maggie: And no, but did you wanna be here all night while I say whats wrong with WW Z?
/I will say it was a fun read but...oh, well.



I both read it and listened to the abridged audiobook version with Mark Hammill and a bunch of other folks, so I can't say I disliked it. I just didn't enjoy it for the sense of realism, heh.
 
2012-12-04 12:15:32 AM

scalpod: I was shocked to see someone simply punching a zombie (for the first time ever, in any show or movie that I can remember).

If you knock it's damned jaw off you're safe.

Sometimes the most effective solutions are the simplest.


As someone who has socked a few dudes in the jaw/mouth back in the day, I will tell you that it is very common for your knuckles to scrape teeth and get cut by them. I'd stick with a hammer or crowbar for dealing with infectious zombies.
 
2012-12-04 12:24:05 AM

MagSeven: scalpod: I was shocked to see someone simply punching a zombie (for the first time ever, in any show or movie that I can remember).

If you knock it's damned jaw off you're safe.

Sometimes the most effective solutions are the simplest.

As someone who has socked a few dudes in the jaw/mouth back in the day, I will tell you that it is very common for your knuckles to scrape teeth and get cut by them. I'd stick with a hammer or crowbar for dealing with infectious zombies.


Do what the old school hockey goons used to; aluminum foil knuckles. Also, wear gloves/long sleeves when dealing w/ zombie mouths.
 
2012-12-04 12:34:54 AM

Relatively Obscure: tinfoil-hat maggie: Hey don't mess with someone that knows how to use one bad news I saw Kill Bill : )

That applies to ... everything. But sometimes, the magical properties these seem to take on get a bit silly. Of course, guns get silly quite often, too.

tinfoil-hat maggie: And no, but did you wanna be here all night while I say whats wrong with WW Z?
/I will say it was a fun read but...oh, well.

I both read it and listened to the abridged audiobook version with Mark Hammill and a bunch of other folks, so I can't say I disliked it. I just didn't enjoy it for the sense of realism, heh.


Exactly, as far as the silly guns and sword stuff but I have to say, I think it was last season the talking dead were they talked about how the actors handle weapons on set, I was happy with that.the had a very good system for that and were very responsible on set with the weapons.
 
2012-12-04 12:41:04 AM
List fails without gas mask walker

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-04 12:54:30 AM
Omahawg:

Oh and sense this tread is dying and I know you so well here's this (NSFW)
 
2012-12-04 01:09:18 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Relatively Obscure: Mike Chewbacca: Yeah, the bodies have been dead for a year now, and many are "wounded" anyway, so I have no problem with how easily blades are going through skulls.

And entire human bodies, especially if you have a magical omgjapanesesword. 'Cause many nerds freakin' love those things.

tinfoil-hat maggie: WW Z always pissed me off because the writer discounted the traumatic brain injury caused by concussion from high explosive shelling in the battle of Yonkers.

That's the one thing? ;)

Hey don't mess with someone that knows how to use one bad news I saw Kill Bill : )

And no, but did you wanna be here all night while I say whats wrong with WW Z?
/I will say it was a fun read but...oh, well.


I'd probably grab a sword for the zombie apocalypse. Of course, my 10 years of baseball means I'm incredibly comfortable with a bat (and catcher's gear, now that I think about it).
 
2012-12-04 01:11:39 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Omahawg:

Oh and sense this tread is dying and I know you so well here's this (NSFW)


nice! ;)
 
2012-12-04 01:29:00 AM

Mike Chewbacca: tinfoil-hat maggie: Relatively Obscure: Mike Chewbacca: Yeah, the bodies have been dead for a year now, and many are "wounded" anyway, so I have no problem with how easily blades are going through skulls.

And entire human bodies, especially if you have a magical omgjapanesesword. 'Cause many nerds freakin' love those things.

tinfoil-hat maggie: WW Z always pissed me off because the writer discounted the traumatic brain injury caused by concussion from high explosive shelling in the battle of Yonkers.

That's the one thing? ;)

Hey don't mess with someone that knows how to use one bad news I saw Kill Bill : )

And no, but did you wanna be here all night while I say whats wrong with WW Z?
/I will say it was a fun read but...oh, well.

I'd probably grab a sword for the zombie apocalypse. Of course, my 10 years of baseball means I'm incredibly comfortable with a bat (and catcher's gear, now that I think about it).


It seems like a good weapon, silent but deadly granted a baseball bat or a cricket bat seems to work well with strength. Granted you need room to swing but other than that.....
 
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