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2012-12-03 02:26:28 AM  
There's a time and a place... this was neither.

Classy Bob... classy.
 
2012-12-03 02:26:31 AM  
Smart, reasonable restrictions on gun access and ownership isn't at odds with the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.
 
2012-12-03 02:27:16 AM  
you are watching NBC it's like a long running Elephants turd.
 
2012-12-03 02:28:33 AM  
this should be good

/fark you Costas
 
2012-12-03 02:30:18 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Smart, reasonable restrictions on gun access and ownership isn't at odds with the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.


And which political party that you don't like gets to say what those restrictions are? And when they decide to take them away completely? Do you say "No biggie, I didn't need a gun anyway."
 
2012-12-03 02:32:00 AM  
NBC pushes their agenda throughout their program list, from Monday Night Football to Law and Order. Costas is just a cog in this.
 
2012-12-03 02:32:33 AM  

SumDumGit: And which political party that you don't like gets to say what those restrictions are?


The Supreme Court does, and even Scalia thinks there can and should be restrictions. Just not "absolute personal ownership" bans, like what was overturned in DC.
 
2012-12-03 02:32:39 AM  
Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.
 
2012-12-03 02:34:36 AM  
Strange...never heard Costas get all that upset before about a guy killing his girlfriend, then himself...

OH, RIGHT...these were actually important people because NFL.
 
2012-12-03 02:35:38 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.


Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.
 
2012-12-03 02:36:15 AM  

Frank N Stein: NBC pushes their agenda throughout their program list, from Monday Night Football to Law and Order. Costas is just a cog in this.


The General Electric agenda? Or the Comcast agenda.
 
2012-12-03 02:39:50 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.


Actually Whitlock is a Fox Sports journalist from Kansas City.
 
2012-12-03 02:41:47 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.

Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.


People need cars, people don't need handguns as every other Western nation in the world already knows.
 
2012-12-03 02:43:30 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.

Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.


Look, I am not getting into this argument with you. It is like arguing how many angels can fit on a pin head?
 
2012-12-03 02:43:34 AM  
I wondered how long this thread would take to turn up.
 
2012-12-03 02:44:15 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.


Lots of people die due to our car culture, and our athletics culture, hell our food culture.

The problems aren't the tools we use to hurt ourselves, merely that we have a systematic breakdown of society that prevents us from recognizing the difference between WHAT we are doing vs WHY we are doing it.

This young man committed violence on not only himself. but another human being. That is what needs to be addressed. Not the fact that he used a lump of metal to do so.

Was the announcer wrong? I would say he had a national pulpit to make his statement from. I don't agree with his words, but he's got stones to say it so bluntly on a national stage. I just wish that he would have gotten to the root of the people instead of beating the same old tired drum.
 
2012-12-03 02:44:59 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: There's a time and a place... this was neither.

Classy Bob... classy.


... One of a very, very small number of NFL starting players, just yeserday, shot his child's mother dead in cold blood, then drove to the practice facility and home of his employer, an NFL team, and shot himself in front of a front office man and the team's head coach.

So, whether or not I agree with Costas, I'd say this was as good as any time to bring this up.
 
2012-12-03 02:45:33 AM  

carnifex2005: people don't need handguns


Says who? You?

carnifex2005: every other Western nation in the world already knows.


Citation needed.
 
2012-12-03 02:46:18 AM  
Who the fark cares about what random people on twitter say or care about?
 
2012-12-03 02:47:44 AM  
I saw that, live, and the first thing I thought was, "Oh man, he's gonna be in trouble now..."

Pray 4 Mojo: Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.


Can we? That would be awesome and save me a fortune, every year. Unfortunately, there's no real public transportation where I live, so I have to keep mine.
 
2012-12-03 02:49:58 AM  

puffy999: So, whether or not I agree with Costas, I'd say this was as good as any time to bring this up.


Alright then. Why did he blame the gun? Christ Benoit proved that a roided up strongman needs no weapons to kill his wife and himself. Why not address the issue of concussion-causing brain damage rampant in the NFL? Why not the media's, including NBC's, role in perpetuating and glorifying the "gun culture"? Why take the simpleton's route of blaming the gun for the action of the man?

It's been brought up. Now defend it.
 
2012-12-03 02:50:10 AM  

Frank N Stein: carnifex2005: people don't need handguns

Says who? You?

carnifex2005: every other Western nation in the world already knows.

Citation needed.


you are a puppet: Frank N Stein: NBC pushes their agenda throughout their program list, from Monday Night Football to Law and Order. Costas is just a cog in this.

The General Electric agenda? Or the Comcast agenda.


You forgot to answer this.
 
2012-12-03 02:50:10 AM  

carnifex2005: Pray 4 Mojo: Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.

Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.

People need cars, people don't need handguns as every other Western nation in the world already knows.


You mean like Mexico?

Or like Switzerland?
 
2012-12-03 02:50:30 AM  
Some people have a big problem with having a political agenda pushed down their throats during a football game. The problem isn't with the misguided beliefs but with the stage on which they were espoused.
 
2012-12-03 02:50:48 AM  

ElwoodCuse: SumDumGit: And which political party that you don't like gets to say what those restrictions are?

The Supreme Court does, and even Scalia thinks there can and should be restrictions. Just not "absolute personal ownership" bans, like what was overturned in DC.


B-b-b-ut this is America! The constitution says every family needs at least one fully automatic machine pistol, just for huntin'!

/Or so I've heard.
//But switchblades and brass knuckles are illegal in most states, because, you know, they're like dangerous!
 
2012-12-03 02:52:21 AM  
It's no different than a politician going on tv and saying abortion is wrong. Every other show on tv made some sort of comment about it, he was told to say something and he spoke his mind. You don't like what he has to say? Who cares, you're watching grown men run into each other while fighting over a ball. Get over it.
 
2012-12-03 02:52:43 AM  

you are a puppet: You forgot to answer this.


I don't know. All I know is that a multi-billion dollar international corporation doesn't let some pipsqueak sports journalist go on a soap box without their approval.

Now, answer my questions.
 
2012-12-03 02:52:50 AM  
Hey Blob Cutlas, When I want your opinion on weighty matters, I'll TELL you what they are.

Until then tell me if I'm out 5 grand to some bad men from Vegas.

Either way, go fark yourself you pompous puffed up talking head.



/Costas, the fact that Nicole Brown Simpson was unarmed certainly helped her survive the attack from a kitchen knife, didn't it?
 
2012-12-03 02:53:34 AM  
It took less than 10 minutes for the right wing rage machine to go into full blown freakout mode.

AverageAmericanGuy: Smart, reasonable restrictions on gun access and ownership isn't at odds with the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.


I laugh at your naivete...
 
2012-12-03 02:53:51 AM  

naptapper: Some people have a big problem with having a political agenda pushed down their throats during a football game. The problem isn't with the misguided beliefs but with the stage on which they were espoused.


Thank you.
 
2012-12-03 02:54:21 AM  
Gun ownership? Nothing wrong with it. I have no issues with the legality of any weapons.

Glorifying gun ownership, however, is ridiculous. You can show a guy getting shot in the farking head on network TV but you can't show a bare female breast without getting fined. You can't say "fark" on a talk show, but we can have 25 cop shows, 10 war movies and a million ads for a first-person shooter video game. There's like 100 reality shows about guns, gun owners, gun range visitors, gun inventors, shooting guns, bigger guns, better guns, guns that haven't been invented yet but seem like a cool idea...

That part, I think, is the problem - not the fact that you can legally own one. Glorification of weapons is usually kinda silly IMO when in moderate amounts. We're saturated with violence to the point that we become desensitized to it when we see it and defensive of anything we perceive may be a threat to our right to inflict it.

It's a combination of factors, not the least of which is the psychological crutch that "oh, because bad guys are out there and they may have guns, we must all own guns to protect ourselves!" -- Never mind that you instantaneously become far more likely to have an accident or deliberate criminal action happen with that actual gun you bought to "protect" yourself than to be the victim of homicide from the hypothetical one you use to justify the purchase.

I think all drugs should be legal, too - but I don't think everyone should run out and buy some heroin, nor do I think we need ads for them on TV. If you need a gun, or think you need a gun, you're going to get a gun anyway. Maybe if we didn't get such a boner for Jack Bauer and Call of Duty the whole "gun culture" problem wouldn't exist but whatever -- I'm a 24 fan myself, so I choose to blame media as a whole for flooding the market with it. I know, no personal responsibility, shock right? heh... but that's the thing -- I'm FOR gun ownership, just not in favor of making gun use/ownership seem like it's "cool" or whatever the children call it these days.
 
2012-12-03 02:54:48 AM  

Poo_Fight: Hey Blob Cutlas, When I want your opinion on weighty matters, I'll TELL you what they are.
Either way, go fark yourself you pompous puffed up talking head.

/Costas, the fact that Nicole Brown Simpson was unarmed certainly helped her survive the attack from a kitchen knife, didn't it?



lol. Costas has gained a lot of respect from me. Anything that angers fratboys is good for the world.
 
2012-12-03 02:55:27 AM  

Frank N Stein: puffy999: So, whether or not I agree with Costas, I'd say this was as good as any time to bring this up.

Alright then. Why did he blame the gun? Christ Benoit proved that a roided up strongman needs no weapons to kill his wife and himself. Why not address the issue of concussion-causing brain damage rampant in the NFL? Why not the media's, including NBC's, role in perpetuating and glorifying the "gun culture"? Why take the simpleton's route of blaming the gun for the action of the man?

It's been brought up. Now defend it.


I can see the spittle flying out of your mouth.
 
2012-12-03 02:57:12 AM  

Frank N Stein: you are a puppet: You forgot to answer this.

I don't know. All I know is that a multi-billion dollar international corporation doesn't let some pipsqueak sports journalist go on a soap box without their approval.

Now, answer my questions.


You didn't ask me any questions. And whatever your questions are, you aren't entitled to any answers until you can better explain what NBC's agenda is and who is behind it.
 
2012-12-03 02:58:00 AM  

naptapper: Some people have a big problem with having a political agenda pushed down their throats during a football game. The problem isn't with the misguided beliefs but with the stage on which they were espoused.


It wasn't being pushed down their throats during the game; saying that implies, to me, that Michaels and Collinsworth got on a soapbox and were quoting Whitlock while neglecting their play-by-play and color-commentary duties. Halftime is different. I think making a social commentary during halftime of one of the most widely watched TV programs and thereby sparking debate is something to be applauded. The other pre- and postgame shows (Fox, CBS) are basically mindless, worthless drivel that does nothing but promote the NFL and its players. I also think that everyone should calm the fark down and stop being so defensive, regardless of which side of the argument you're on.
 
2012-12-03 02:58:13 AM  

Frank N Stein: Christ Benoit proved that a roided up strongman needs no weapons to kill his wife and himself.


Ah, the old "not everyone dies via gun violence, therefore there is no need to discuss gun violence" red herring.

This tired fallacy is a staple of those unwilling to discuss rampant gun violence in the United States.

Congratulations on your lack of originality.
 
2012-12-03 02:58:45 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Poo_Fight: Hey Blob Cutlas, When I want your opinion on weighty matters, I'll TELL you what they are.
Either way, go fark yourself you pompous puffed up talking head.

/Costas, the fact that Nicole Brown Simpson was unarmed certainly helped her survive the attack from a kitchen knife, didn't it?


lol. Costas has gained a lot of respect from me. Anything that angers fratboys is good for the world.


Frat boys? I'm 49. You ignorant prick.
 
2012-12-03 03:00:40 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Poo_Fight: Hey Blob Cutlas, When I want your opinion on weighty matters, I'll TELL you what they are.
Either way, go fark yourself you pompous puffed up talking head.

/Costas, the fact that Nicole Brown Simpson was unarmed certainly helped her survive the attack from a kitchen knife, didn't it?


lol. Costas has gained a lot of respect from me. Anything that angers fratboys is good for the world.


*Clicks on profile*

Jesus Christ, YOU'RE a FRATBOY!
 
2012-12-03 03:00:55 AM  
What is wrong with you people that listen to Costas in the first place? I realize not everyone owns a Tivo, but damn, leave the room or mute him or something.
 
2012-12-03 03:02:42 AM  
Ok, being a Canuckistani, who owns no guns, may I make the following suggestion. Granted that I'm sure that it probably wouldn't have helped in this case.

Require people to take a gun safety course when they first decide to purchase a weapon, and pass, a la a licensing exam. As part of said course, have a portion (say an hour of a weekend long course in my view) where people are told how to recognize situations where their judgment can be clouded and how to get out of or defuse those situations.

From my cultural viewpoint, you guys take guns to an extreme. In terms of gun ownership and use you guys are waaaaayyyy ahead of most of the western world. Sadly crimes where guns are invioved are much more common. Access can correlate almost directly with use, just like places with lots of cars have lots of accidents.

You guys have fun with trying to come up with an answer on that issue. I'm glad that here in Canada, it's much more rare that I hear about gun violence.
 
2012-12-03 03:03:10 AM  

you are a puppet: You didn't ask me any questions. And whatever your questions are, you aren't entitled to any answers until you can better explain what NBC's agenda is and who is behind it.


Their agenda is an anti-gun one, apparently. I don't know who's behind it, but I'm willing to bet the speech was vetted and approved by the company he works for.

And yes, I did ask you for citation or rationale to your claim that every other western nation knows that people do not need handguns.
 
2012-12-03 03:04:07 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.

Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.


If only cars had some other use besides killing people...
 
2012-12-03 03:04:16 AM  

carnifex2005: Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.

Actually Whitlock is a Fox Sports journalist from Kansas City.


I'm pretty sure that's what he meant by a local journalist.

This happened in Kansas City.
 
2012-12-03 03:04:58 AM  

thegod082: naptapper: Some people have a big problem with having a political agenda pushed down their throats during a football game. The problem isn't with the misguided beliefs but with the stage on which they were espoused.

It wasn't being pushed down their throats during the game; saying that implies, to me, that Michaels and Collinsworth got on a soapbox and were quoting Whitlock while neglecting their play-by-play and color-commentary duties. Halftime is different. I think making a social commentary during halftime of one of the most widely watched TV programs and thereby sparking debate is something to be applauded. The other pre- and postgame shows (Fox, CBS) are basically mindless, worthless drivel that does nothing but promote the NFL and its players. I also think that everyone should calm the fark down and stop being so defensive, regardless of which side of the argument you're on.


Oh, OK - so it's fine with you if anyone spouts off anything as long as it's not actually during the game. Hmm. So if someone who is deeply religious, say Tim Tebow for example, got on a halftime show and told people how they were going to Hell, that would be OK with you?

It's all about the time and place. I don't want to be preached to by anyone when I'm watching a farking pastime.
 
2012-12-03 03:04:58 AM  
Guns are for pussy-asses bed-wetters acared of their own shadows, nevermind dark people
 
2012-12-03 03:05:48 AM  

Frank N Stein: you are a puppet: You didn't ask me any questions. And whatever your questions are, you aren't entitled to any answers until you can better explain what NBC's agenda is and who is behind it.

Their agenda is an anti-gun one, apparently. I don't know who's behind it, but I'm willing to bet the speech was vetted and approved by the company he works for.

And yes, I did ask you for citation or rationale to your claim that every other western nation knows that people do not need handguns.


You are really something.
 
2012-12-03 03:06:18 AM  

Poo_Fight: /Costas, the fact that Nicole Brown Simpson was unarmed certainly helped her survive the attack from a kitchen knife, didn't it?


Look! The same red herring!

Yep. Someone died from something other than gun violence, so that means there is no reason at all to discuss rampant gun violence in the United States.

Same old tired fallacy. You managed to combine it with ad homs and a whole lot of angry projection.

Congrats.
 
2012-12-03 03:06:32 AM  

mediablitz: This tired fallacy is a staple of those unwilling to discuss rampant gun violence in the United States.


I live in Chicago, one of the most gun-violent cities in America. For 30 years there was a handgun ban, and gun crime continued to rise. Recently, handgun bans were found unconstitutional, therefore the city had to allow them, although the permits are very difficult to get. Murders have gone down a bit, but again Chicago is still one of the most gun violent places.

Go ahead, tell me how handgun bans are effective in stopping gun violence/murder
 
2012-12-03 03:07:02 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Ok, being a Canuckistani, who owns no guns, may I make the following suggestion. Granted that I'm sure that it probably wouldn't have helped in this case.

Require people to take a gun safety course when they first decide to purchase a weapon, and pass, a la a licensing exam. As part of said course, have a portion (say an hour of a weekend long course in my view) where people are told how to recognize situations where their judgment can be clouded and how to get out of or defuse those situations.

From my cultural viewpoint, you guys take guns to an extreme. In terms of gun ownership and use you guys are waaaaayyyy ahead of most of the western world. Sadly crimes where guns are invioved are much more common. Access can correlate almost directly with use, just like places with lots of cars have lots of accidents.

You guys have fun with trying to come up with an answer on that issue. I'm glad that here in Canada, it's much more rare that I hear about gun violence.


Gun ownership in Canada is similar to that of the US.
 
2012-12-03 03:07:34 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Harry_Seldon: Bob Costa's was quoting a local journalist and nothing he said is wrong.

Lots of people needlessly die due to our gun culture. This seems to be an acceptable cost of business as usual in America.

Lots of people also die needlessly due to our car culture...

so... let's get rid of those too.


Actually, lots of people die needlessly due to our let old people continue driving until they run someone over and kill them culture...

so... let's get rid of old people.

Get RID of them.

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