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(My Northwest)   Downtown Seattle developer unveils first apartment complex designed for bicyclists, featuring bike shop on ground floor, 250 bike parking stalls for residents, 0 car parking stalls, and "bike gym" for suburban commuters   (mynorthwest.com ) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Downtown Seattle, bike shop, Seattle, developers, Mayor Mike McGinn, proof of insurance, Tom Harkin, gyms  
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2012-12-02 11:16:44 PM  
But does it have any red lights they can completely ignore?
 
2012-12-02 11:19:49 PM  
Clever. Round 'em all up and gas 'em!
 
2012-12-02 11:23:01 PM  
Good lord... all that smug concentrated in just one city block. The gravitational pull will drag planes right out of the sky.
 
2012-12-02 11:44:36 PM  
My, aren't we hip
 
2012-12-03 12:02:06 AM  
These people aren't going to age well. Gawd forbid they get sick or a injury.
 
2012-12-03 12:02:09 AM  
What's a bike gym? And why would you want to bike MORE when you've probably been doing it for an hour or more during the day? And why would a bike gym be a selling point when you can pick up a stationary bike stand for less than $50 and get that exercise in your own apartment?
 
2012-12-03 12:09:54 AM  
How are they going to move in?
 
2012-12-03 12:12:04 AM  
Is it handicap friendly? We had two riders that need that for a while after they came off their bikes.
 
2012-12-03 12:16:59 AM  

Nickster79: But does it have any red lights they can completely ignore?


There's a cop station around the corner, we'll find out.
 
2012-12-03 12:18:01 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Good lord... all that smug concentrated in just one city block. The gravitational pull will drag planes right out of the sky.


Seaplanes fly directly overhead on their way to land on Lake Union .. we'll have to see if they start pulling up short.
 
2012-12-03 12:37:29 AM  
Next on Obvious Outcomes, A developer in Seattle learns that a lot of people who ride bikes can't afford condos in the City.
 
2012-12-03 12:53:11 AM  

DON.MAC: Is it handicap friendly? We had two riders that need that for a while after they came off their bikes.


Yeah. The ADA almost certainly won't let them get by without space for disability parking. And emergency vehicles.
 
2012-12-03 12:56:59 AM  
But if nobody drives a car in the complex, how can they properly feel smug and superior to everyone else?
 
2012-12-03 01:07:25 AM  
Wow, everything I wanted to say when reading the headline has already been said.

Bravo, folks, bravo.
 
2012-12-03 01:46:44 AM  
I'm not gay, but that hasn't stopped me from always dreaming about living someplace where all men's genitals are clearly identifiable through their tight compression shorts. Sounds like a little slice of sweaty nutsack heaven.
 
2012-12-03 04:01:27 AM  

crypticsatellite: Wow, everything I wanted to say when reading the headline has already been said.

Bravo, folks, bravo.


Oh, there will be more. Bicyclists having their own building with Tom Douglas putting in a specialty restaurant? So much material here.
 
2012-12-03 04:24:07 AM  

Chariset: How are they going to move in?


mlkshk.com

/hot like Carrie
 
2012-12-03 04:35:50 AM  
I think accommodating bikes is a good idea. An entire apartment complex for cyclists? Dunno...

I also like the idea of fostering cycling by providing changing rooms and showers. I think every commercial building should have showers and lockers rooms - more people would bike, walk, run, or skate to work if they didn't have to sit around in their own rank sweat for an entire day.

/ Not a cyclist
 
2012-12-03 04:44:55 AM  
little things like groceries, a case of beer or furniture suddenly become a real PITA. have fun sucking wind while a daily barrage of courier and delivery trucks idle right outside your window, delivering everything you obnoxious arseholes can't get home on your bikes.
 
2012-12-03 04:53:26 AM  
If I could only find a way to cut corners and costs from my next apartment building project? If I could only get rid of parking places that cost me a lot of money downtown but I can't charge for them as much as they cost me.

Ah, I got it!
 
2012-12-03 04:56:43 AM  

KrispyKritter: little things like groceries, a case of beer or furniture suddenly become a real PITA. have fun sucking wind while a daily barrage of courier and delivery trucks idle right outside your window, delivering everything you obnoxious arseholes can't get home on your bikes.


That neighborhood is heavy traffic anyhow, hence the need for bicycles.
 
2012-12-03 05:00:44 AM  
It would interesting to observe the driving habits of the typical Farker who recites the same old tripe in every bicycle thread. Sure, plenty of cyclists ignore the rules, but how many drivers do the same? You speed through school zones and residential neighborhoods, change lanes without looking, become aggressive with little provocation, etc. Where's the daily "all car drivers suck" thread?

I don't ride a bicycle, but I do ride a motorcycle and as such share a cyclist's severe distrust of the four-wheeled public. I know it makes you all feel good to post about running over cyclists or wishing they would otherwise die, but please understand that all you're doing is making yourself look like an asshole. Far douchier than the college kid who ignored that red light back there.

Plus, you all sound fat.
 
2012-12-03 05:54:01 AM  
I bet that place's halls will look like its straight out of an episode of ST:TNG what with all the unitards. They'd better hope teleporters get invented soon too, otherwise the first time one of them breaks a precious limb they're royally screwed.
 
2012-12-03 06:00:00 AM  
This is why Amazon Fresh was invented.
 
2012-12-03 06:02:00 AM  
"The building is 350-feet long, which is bigger than a football field."

What's a football field?
 
2012-12-03 06:03:24 AM  

Betep: "The building is 350-feet long, which is bigger than a football field."

What's a football field?


It's where they play soccer. You know, like the Sounders.
 
2012-12-03 06:27:48 AM  

KrispyKritter: little things like groceries, a case of beer or furniture suddenly become a real PITA. have fun sucking wind while a daily barrage of courier and delivery trucks idle right outside your window, delivering everything you obnoxious arseholes can't get home on your bikes.


static.ddmcdn.com

But, seriously, bike trailers are the way to go.

makezineblog.files.wordpress.com

Grocery shopping in a lot of places means driving 15-20 mins to the edge of town to a megastore built because of cheap land and loading a whole cartful of stuff once a week. In other places, grocery stores are a 5 minute bike ride away and easy to do daily based on what's needed for the day.

Anyway, it's just a matter of habits and local surroundings. In the city, driving means having to deal with parking and parking spaces, parking tickets and car thieves and driving in roads that barely go faster than a bike would.
 
2012-12-03 06:36:30 AM  

mr0x: KrispyKritter: little things like groceries, a case of beer or furniture suddenly become a real PITA. have fun sucking wind while a daily barrage of courier and delivery trucks idle right outside your window, delivering everything you obnoxious arseholes can't get home on your bikes.

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But, seriously, bike trailers are the way to go.

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Grocery shopping in a lot of places means driving 15-20 mins to the edge of town to a megastore built because of cheap land and loading a whole cartful of stuff once a week. In other places, grocery stores are a 5 minute bike ride away and easy to do daily based on what's needed for the day.

Anyway, it's just a matter of habits and local surroundings. In the city, driving means having to deal with parking and parking spaces, parking tickets and car thieves and driving in roads that barely go faster than a bike would.


This reminded me of a neighbor I once had that could fit a bag of groceries and a 12 pack on his skate board. I admired that.
 
2012-12-03 06:49:18 AM  
Yeah but can they get married ?
 
2012-12-03 06:49:47 AM  
indiehasmybones.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-03 06:55:37 AM  
Wow, it sounds really fat in here.
 
2012-12-03 07:03:15 AM  

mr0x:
Grocery shopping in a lot of places means driving 15-20 mins to the edge of town to a megastore built because of cheap land and loading a whole cartful of stuff once a week. In other places, grocery stores are a 5 minute bike ride away and easy to do daily based on what's needed for the day.

Anyway, it's just a matter of habits and local surroundings. In the city, driving means having to deal with parking and parking spaces, parking tickets and car thieves and driving in roads that barely go faster than a bike would.


Stopping by the grocery store on my way home from work only adds a mile and with a rack and panniers I've always got enough room to haul even two weeks worth of groceries. It's really not that hard one you've done it for awhile, especially if you stop by twice a week and so aren't carrying large loads.
 
2012-12-03 07:58:36 AM  
The problem, and one they've been encountering in Portland as well, is that some of these people will still have cars. They will just park them on neighborhood streets and crowd out the other area residents. This isn't about catering to bicycles. It's about a developer finding a way to make more money by not including some parking stalls at the expense of the neighborhood.
 
2012-12-03 08:25:56 AM  
I want to set up a store across the street that sells lesbian librarian glasses and quinoa.
 
2012-12-03 08:27:19 AM  
there's a 26 min gym joke in here somewhere but I haven't had enough coffee yet
 
2012-12-03 08:28:43 AM  
Sounds like a new vacant building has been planned
 
2012-12-03 08:51:35 AM  

hinten: If I could only find a way to cut corners and costs from my next apartment building project? If I could only get rid of parking places that cost me a lot of money downtown but I can't charge for them as much as they cost me.

Ah, I got it!


Yup. Bonus points for it fits the mayor's favorite distraction -- promoting bike riding which in turn keeps the eye off the rest of the shenanigans he's up to.
 
2012-12-03 08:53:15 AM  

dickfreckle: It would interesting to observe the driving habits of the typical Farker who recites the same old tripe in every bicycle thread. Sure, plenty of cyclists ignore the rules, but how many drivers do the same? You speed through school zones and residential neighborhoods, change lanes without looking, become aggressive with little provocation, etc. Where's the daily "all car drivers suck" thread?

I don't ride a bicycle, but I do ride a motorcycle and as such share a cyclist's severe distrust of the four-wheeled public. I know it makes you all feel good to post about running over cyclists or wishing they would otherwise die, but please understand that all you're doing is making yourself look like an asshole. Far douchier than the college kid who ignored that red light back there.

Plus, you all sound fat.


This obvious farker had 10 years in the exact area this is written about dodging asswit cyclists while walking to work daily, for 10 years, through the 3 square mile part of town this article is written about, for 10 years, dodging cyclists.
 
2012-12-03 08:54:33 AM  
Approves 
www.portlandbicycletours.com
 
2012-12-03 08:54:48 AM  
Got a few places like that in Portland. The average person living there owns 1.4 cars. They are parked all over the neighborhood.
 
2012-12-03 09:26:36 AM  
Better to be smug than bitter.
 
2012-12-03 09:30:38 AM  

dickfreckle: It would interesting to observe the driving habits of the typical Farker who recites the same old tripe in every bicycle thread. Sure, plenty of cyclists ignore the rules, but how many drivers do the same? You speed through school zones and residential neighborhoods, change lanes without looking, become aggressive with little provocation, etc. Where's the daily "all car drivers suck" thread?

I don't ride a bicycle, but I do ride a motorcycle and as such share a cyclist's severe distrust of the four-wheeled public. I know it makes you all feel good to post about running over cyclists or wishing they would otherwise die, but please understand that all you're doing is making yourself look like an asshole. Far douchier than the college kid who ignored that red light back there.

Plus, you all sound fat.


The difference is you don't have to worry about killing a driver that ignores a rule here and there. In a two week period, I damn near killed two cyclists and wanted to kill another. One ran a red light and the other was going the wrong way on a four-lane road. The one I wanted to kill was taking up two lanes of traffic by riding on the center line.. Fark cyclist.
 
2012-12-03 09:35:00 AM  

Generation_D: This obvious farker had 10 years in the exact area this is written about dodging asswit cyclists while walking to work daily, for 10 years, through the 3 square mile part of town this article is written about, for 10 years, dodging cyclists.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that in your opinion, it was always you dodging the cyclists and never the other way around.
 
2012-12-03 09:54:59 AM  
This is what Americans are afraid of 

/would look better if that all were big ass SUVs, no?
 
2012-12-03 10:22:17 AM  

THX 1138: Generation_D: This obvious farker had 10 years in the exact area this is written about dodging asswit cyclists while walking to work daily, for 10 years, through the 3 square mile part of town this article is written about, for 10 years, dodging cyclists.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that in your opinion, it was always you dodging the cyclists and never the other way around.


If I'm a pedestrian in a crosswalk, why would the cyclist be dodging me, its his right to come at me with his fixie. That walk light just means I need to stay the hell out of his way. Says the cyclenista.
 
2012-12-03 10:25:34 AM  

SnarfVader: The problem, and one they've been encountering in Portland as well, is that some of these people will still have cars. They will just park them on neighborhood streets and crowd out the other area residents.


If they were building this in Queen Ann or Capitol Hill, you'd probably be spot on. But there is almost no on-street 24/7 parking in the part of downtown Seattle they're talking about. There are some private parking lots that are nearby, though, so residents might be able to get a monthly parking pass.

Unless they add parking for visitors, it is going to suck for them. Pay parking in the area. both street and private, is expensive. You might be able to park somewhere else and then hop on the SLUT since there is a stop nearby at the intersection of Westlake, Virginia and 7th. PITA, though.
 
2012-12-03 11:10:29 AM  

dickfreckle: Where's the daily "all car drivers suck" thread?
...
I don't ride a bicycle, but I do ride a motorcycle and as such share a cyclist's severe distrust of the four-wheeled public.
....
Plus, you all sound fat.

 

Actually I spend a lot of time pitying car drivers while I'm filtering through traffic. Motorcyclist as well, and bicyclists drive me in-farking-sane.

/don't mind sounding fat...
 
2012-12-03 11:32:04 AM  
The "bike gym" and other bike related items are a great add, but at the end of the day it's just another marketing angle and tenant amenity. Apparently there's a parking garage below the building. No one's building a condo/apartment building in Seattle without parking as you couldn't get it financed.

And, yes, it does sound fat in here.
 
2012-12-03 11:37:56 AM  
I follow traffic laws and still ended up with a broken wrist and my frame snapped because of an asshole driver running a red light.

Also I mainly use side streets because of asshole drivers doing things like suddenly pulling over into the bike lane when they see me coming up behind them.
 
2012-12-03 11:48:47 AM  

dickfreckle: It would interesting to observe the driving habits of the typical Farker who recites the same old tripe in every bicycle thread. Sure, plenty of cyclists ignore the rules, but how many drivers do the same? You speed through school zones and residential neighborhoods, change lanes without looking, become aggressive with little provocation, etc. Where's the daily "all car drivers suck" thread?

I don't ride a bicycle, but I do ride a motorcycle and as such share a cyclist's severe distrust of the four-wheeled public. I know it makes you all feel good to post about running over cyclists or wishing they would otherwise die, but please understand that all you're doing is making yourself look like an asshole. Far douchier than the college kid who ignored that red light back there.

Plus, you all sound fat.


Yeah, that speeding through a school zone thing irritates me too, and I usually drive...

/ would not mind seeing more cops laying down some justice on bad drivers in my neighborhood...
 
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