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2012-12-02 10:18:02 PM  
10 votes:
I hate the newer nickels where he's looking right at you. Mind your own damn business, Tom.
2012-12-03 01:20:12 AM  
6 votes:
You damn right he's a dick, he still owes me $2.
2012-12-02 11:48:47 PM  
5 votes:
To add...

The man I respect more than any of them was Washington because he had to kind of pick and choose and pitch these two in fights and such. From reading his letters he felt like every President in history, presiding over a bunch of children fighting over a toy.

I mean he basically writes: "This sucks. They are all assholes. I just want to go home and make booze. *sigh* I have to do this again for four more years? Shoot me."
2012-12-03 05:17:44 AM  
4 votes:
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
2012-12-03 09:05:59 AM  
3 votes:
One of the Pounding Fathers, amirite?
2012-12-02 11:13:09 PM  
3 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: What I really hate is that the body of work is more and more often shouldered aside in favor of screaming what a blue-ribbon asshole Jefferson was.


This might not be the right time to mention it, but "The Blue-Ribbon Assholes" is the name of my next band.
2012-12-02 10:38:58 PM  
3 votes:

GAT_00: All right, this is going to go nowhere. This is done now.


I truly hope you don't post again in this thread, or you'll be undermining your argument that the things people write are their true feelings.
2012-12-03 08:55:54 AM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com

Seen last summer on UVA's campus.
2012-12-03 06:55:41 AM  
2 votes:
Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented chicken and waffles, the soul food dish.
2012-12-03 06:11:56 AM  
2 votes:
Deep Contact
I feel like a slave.

Jefferson's slave? that would explain your screen name.
2012-12-03 05:55:09 AM  
2 votes:
Dolly Madison was a tart.
2012-12-03 05:42:51 AM  
2 votes:

Scott_Free: Jefferson was a god of his time. Compared to the rest of our founders, he was very progressive. fark all of you all who say otherwise.


The personal traits of the American Founding Fathers?

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2012-12-03 05:07:21 AM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: You damn right he's a dick, he still owes me $2.


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2012-12-02 10:26:35 PM  
2 votes:

DamnYankees: Thomas Jefferson pretty clearly didn't hate slavery. He just wrote that he did.


Ok, now you're claiming to know what was in the head of a man 200 years dead and how it contradicted what he wrote. Step back from the ledge of crazy.
2012-12-02 10:19:41 PM  
2 votes:

DamnYankees: GAT_00: Yeah, but it wasn't like Jefferson was the only abolitionist who never freed his slaves.

Jefferson wasn't an abolitionist. He was the opposite.


A regular slave-lover, he was.
2012-12-02 10:12:03 PM  
2 votes:

bronyaur1: DamnYankees: dickfreckle: My admiration is of Jefferson is his body of work, not the man himself. We all love certain books or even music written by reprehensible reprobates. I don't see why this should be different just because he was an eight cylinder bastard.

I think its because his personal actions aren't merely incidental to his espoused philosophies, but in direct contradiction to them. It's be like if Roman Polanksi was really famous for making The Accused.

This. Exactly. Nicely said.


Yeah, but it wasn't like Jefferson was the only abolitionist who never freed his slaves. Admittedly Jefferson was more...free...with his slaves than others, he's still far from alone.
2012-12-02 10:07:41 PM  
2 votes:

GAT_00: Mangoose: But yes, Jefferson was a weird, strange, corrupt, slave-owning freak of a human being. His saving grace was his intellect. To which, one day, hopefully, we will be indebted.

According to Adams he was also more than a little self-centered and self-serving who wasn't interested in doing the hard work.


To be fair, John Adams was, by all accounts, an annoying, self-centered dude also who thought everyone was lazier than him.
2012-12-03 01:20:50 PM  
1 votes:

Scott_Free: DamnYankees: Scott_Free: Show me a person who did more.

George Washington.

Bullshiat. Just a surveyor with money. Not even close to what Jefferson did Read your history.
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Washington kept a rag tag army together when they kept wanting to quit. He managed to squash an attempted Military Coup by just one speech. He became the first President with NO example to follow and did a damn good job of it. And oh yeah, he manged to score a victory over the #1 military power of that century.


So shut up, biatch.
2012-12-03 10:35:34 AM  
1 votes:
He was a ginger. Of course he was a soulless bastard.
2012-12-03 10:11:10 AM  
1 votes:
That is quite a conspiracy theory. It only took 200 years to uncover the true nature of Jefferson. All the historians have been lying to us apparently.
2012-12-03 09:13:56 AM  
1 votes:
"Political foes were often the victim of a vulgar joke perpetrated by Jefferson during legislative debate. During such debate, once recognized by the Chair, a speaker was free to wander about the legislative chamber, while other legislators were expected to remain seated. Jefferson, who ate a diet rich with beans, cheese and eggs, discovered that he could torment those who opposed his viewpoint by strategically passing gas, oftentimes mere inches away from the nostrals of his enemy. Jefferson jokingly referred to this tactic as the "Shenandoah Fog." - Page Smith, Jefferson: A Revealing Biography
2012-12-03 09:02:55 AM  
1 votes:
Yes, Thomas Jefferson was a dick. A huge, veiny, throbbing, DRIVING dick going into white and black pussy, alike, with great force!!!
2012-12-03 08:16:56 AM  
1 votes:

mike_d85: Deep Contact
I feel like a slave.

Jefferson's slave? that would explain your screen name.


Your mother gave me that nickname.
2012-12-03 08:16:37 AM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: GAT_00: Yeah, but reading the bio McCullough wrote about him, the two people who really stick out are Jefferson and Franklin, both of which he pretty much loathed, at least from the Revolution era.

Adams can shut his whore mouth! Franklin was unequivocally awesome.


The other founders were just pissed when Franklin would get them to flip their wigs and casually respond, 'You aggrieved brethren?'

In addition to bifocals, Franklin invented the troll face.
2012-12-03 07:10:51 AM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented chicken and waffles, the soul food dish.


He was also the inventor of ice, The Macarena and Dave Coulier.
2012-12-03 06:07:50 AM  
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: So a story about a coddled leftard professor attempting to come to grips with the idea the world was different at some point in the past. This history professor should consider a different line of work if he can't cope with the past. May I suggest puppeteering.


It makes somewhat more sense knowing that he's a legal history professor. So it'd be about the same as receiving a course in painting from a professor of liberal arts.
2012-12-03 06:03:24 AM  
1 votes:
I understand next weeks column has something to do with FDR supposedly being somewhat weak on his feet. I'll believe it when Ric Romero there writes it, though.
2012-12-03 01:29:26 AM  
1 votes:
People are critical of Jefferson for having slaves, which is unfair in my opinion. I believe it was mostly for the hot slave sex, and you really can't fault him for that.
2012-12-02 11:39:52 PM  
1 votes:
If anyone wants to fistfight me over Jefferson, let me know. He was the shiat. I have his back.
2012-12-02 11:01:11 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Scott_Free: Who else put us where we are now?

Every other founder? And the leaders who came after?


Right. I'm wrong. They stuck their neck out and wrote a constitution for our country. Hell we must have 50 or so of them floating around somewhere. He was the MAN that started this country. Get over the things of the day that all people did. He was a great man, and better then you or I will ever be.
2012-12-02 10:55:56 PM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: GAT_00: Yeah, but reading the bio McCullough wrote about him, the two people who really stick out are Jefferson and Franklin, both of which he pretty much loathed, at least from the Revolution era.

Adams can shut his whore mouth! Franklin was unequivocally awesome.


Franklin was a huge dick, but rather than denying it he reveled in it. Being an ornery bastard was part of his public persona.
2012-12-02 10:52:34 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Scott_Free: Not a bible toting biatch. He thought for himself, and shaped our country based on beliefs that were based on human principles. That for his time was very progressive.

Almost none of the founders were bible toting people, and all the founders signed the very idea Jefferson wrote. So I still don't see the argument.


About half of them were. He had the balls and the leadership to keep our country on the path it is to this day. I say give him some respect. Who else put us where we are now?
2012-12-02 10:33:45 PM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: DamnYankees: I don't claim to know what's in his head - that's what you're doing

Did you suddenly turn back into a Republican? I'm quoting the man's writings.


"I care about the 100%."

I just quoted Mitt Romney. Do you believe him when he says that? I mean, you should - quoting people seems to be your standard for determining what they believe.
2012-12-02 10:29:15 PM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: Yeah, but reading the bio McCullough wrote about him, the two people who really stick out are Jefferson and Franklin, both of which he pretty much loathed, at least from the Revolution era.


Adams can shut his whore mouth! Franklin was unequivocally awesome.
2012-12-02 10:16:26 PM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: Yeah, but it wasn't like Jefferson was the only abolitionist who never freed his slaves.


Jefferson wasn't an abolitionist. He was the opposite.
 
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