Benevolent Misanthrope: What I really hate is that the body of work is more and more often shouldered aside in favor of screaming what a blue-ribbon asshole Jefferson was.
GAT_00: All right, this is going to go nowhere. This is done now.
Scott_Free: Jefferson was a god of his time. Compared to the rest of our founders, he was very progressive. fark all of you all who say otherwise.
The_Sponge: You damn right he's a dick, he still owes me $2.
DamnYankees: Thomas Jefferson pretty clearly didn't hate slavery. He just wrote that he did.
DamnYankees: GAT_00: Yeah, but it wasn't like Jefferson was the only abolitionist who never freed his slaves.Jefferson wasn't an abolitionist. He was the opposite.
bronyaur1: DamnYankees: dickfreckle: My admiration is of Jefferson is his body of work, not the man himself. We all love certain books or even music written by reprehensible reprobates. I don't see why this should be different just because he was an eight cylinder bastard.I think its because his personal actions aren't merely incidental to his espoused philosophies, but in direct contradiction to them. It's be like if Roman Polanksi was really famous for making The Accused.This. Exactly. Nicely said.
GAT_00: Mangoose: But yes, Jefferson was a weird, strange, corrupt, slave-owning freak of a human being. His saving grace was his intellect. To which, one day, hopefully, we will be indebted.According to Adams he was also more than a little self-centered and self-serving who wasn't interested in doing the hard work.
Scott_Free: DamnYankees: Scott_Free: Show me a person who did more.George Washington.Bullshiat. Just a surveyor with money. Not even close to what Jefferson did Read your history.\
mike_d85: Deep ContactI feel like a slave.Jefferson's slave? that would explain your screen name.
Ambivalence: GAT_00: Yeah, but reading the bio McCullough wrote about him, the two people who really stick out are Jefferson and Franklin, both of which he pretty much loathed, at least from the Revolution era.Adams can shut his whore mouth! Franklin was unequivocally awesome.
vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented chicken and waffles, the soul food dish.
david_gaithersburg: So a story about a coddled leftard professor attempting to come to grips with the idea the world was different at some point in the past. This history professor should consider a different line of work if he can't cope with the past. May I suggest puppeteering.
DamnYankees: Scott_Free: Who else put us where we are now?Every other founder? And the leaders who came after?
DamnYankees: Scott_Free: Not a bible toting biatch. He thought for himself, and shaped our country based on beliefs that were based on human principles. That for his time was very progressive.Almost none of the founders were bible toting people, and all the founders signed the very idea Jefferson wrote. So I still don't see the argument.
GAT_00: DamnYankees: I don't claim to know what's in his head - that's what you're doingDid you suddenly turn back into a Republican? I'm quoting the man's writings.
GAT_00: Yeah, but reading the bio McCullough wrote about him, the two people who really stick out are Jefferson and Franklin, both of which he pretty much loathed, at least from the Revolution era.
GAT_00: Yeah, but it wasn't like Jefferson was the only abolitionist who never freed his slaves.
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