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2012-12-02 03:10:03 PM  
Seems a really bad plan. Uncle Joe is a nice guy, but he's also an old white dude. It's going to be a lot harder for him to mobilize the young voters as efficiently as President Obama did.

If Susan Rice gets SecState and does well, she might make an interesting candidate. Kirsten Gillibrand could be a base-rousing option, though frankly I'd rather President Obama takes her out of the running by drop-kicking her into the SCOTUS when Ginsburg retires -- or better yet, if Scalia should have a fatal heart attack.
 
2012-12-02 03:39:14 PM  

abb3w: or better yet, if Scalia should have a fatal heart attack.


Something something liberal hate

But honestly, if any of those old farks were to retire, that would be awesome.
 
2012-12-02 03:43:19 PM  
If he were smart he'd wait and see what democrats rise up to the challenge in the 2016 primary. If no one "suitable" shows up, THEN he enters the race. But dems kind of hate the whole "presumptive nominee" thing. Election times are about the only time the party listens to dems so they kind of like the opportunity to get their voices heard.
 
2012-12-02 04:01:57 PM  

kingoomieiii: Something something liberal hate


I'm not so much a liberal as a pragmatist. That only looks liberal when "conservatives" are sociopathically delusional.

kingoomieiii: But honestly, if any of those old farks were to retire, that would be awesome.


It would be nicer if Scalia simply decided to retire on his own. However, it pragmatically seems likely he'll only leave the court in a casket.
 
2012-12-02 04:29:18 PM  
It'll be interesting to see what Elizabeth Warren gets accomplished in the next 2 or 3 years. She might prove to have the chops for this kind of job. I think it just follows that we get the first female president after the first black one. Just like the order of suffrage in this country.
 
2012-12-02 04:38:32 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: It'll be interesting to see what Elizabeth Warren gets accomplished in the next 2 or 3 years. She might prove to have the chops for this kind of job. I think it just follows that we get the first female president after the first black one. Just like the order of suffrage in this country.


Could be Hillary?
 
2012-12-02 04:43:55 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: ecmoRandomNumbers: It'll be interesting to see what Elizabeth Warren gets accomplished in the next 2 or 3 years. She might prove to have the chops for this kind of job. I think it just follows that we get the first female president after the first black one. Just like the order of suffrage in this country.

Could be Hillary?


Not a chance. She'll be nearly 70 years old. I'm pretty sure the Baby Boom generation have had all the presidents they're going to get.
 
2012-12-02 04:47:28 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: ecmoRandomNumbers: It'll be interesting to see what Elizabeth Warren gets accomplished in the next 2 or 3 years. She might prove to have the chops for this kind of job. I think it just follows that we get the first female president after the first black one. Just like the order of suffrage in this country.

Could be Hillary?


Neither Hillary nor Joe will run. That's my prediction anyway. And if they do, neither of them will get the nod.

Warren would be nice, but I think she'll stay in the Senate for at least one term. Fairly high chance of getting taken as a VP though. Booker is my 'no shot in hell' pick, but he's going for Christie if anything.

Maryland Governor O'Malley has more or less already declared that he's running. Tim Kaine and Mark Warner, both former Virginia Governors, are good bets. My bet is NY Governor Cuomo, who is the guy I'd back of the likely candidates.

Pretty heavy on Governors actually. Not a whole lot of older star power in Congress for the Democrats that looks likely to run.
 
2012-12-02 04:52:02 PM  
Imagine how unbelievably awesome a Biden/Christie presidential debate would be.
 
2012-12-02 04:56:27 PM  
He will be 74 years old. Reagan was only 73 when running as a popular incumbent.
 
2012-12-02 05:04:19 PM  
Vice President Joe Biden might be running for President in 2016. It's a big farking deal  
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2012-12-02 05:05:29 PM  
Biden would be the nice liberal kick that America needs. We don't want a Republican to come in office and undo the good stuff the Obama administration has brought to this country (ACA, LGBT rights, etc). I think Biden would stand up for what he believes in to congress and the tea party people.
 
2012-12-02 05:18:38 PM  

abb3w: though frankly I'd rather President Obama takes her out of the running by drop-kicking her into the SCOTUS when Ginsburg retires


I doubt she would get through the process. It really helps to be on an appellate court first so you get some case history under your belt so you can prove you aren't solidly biased, and she's a moderate Democrat, but her Conservative positions are limited to Gun Control, mainly.
 
2012-12-02 05:42:21 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I doubt she would get through the process. It really helps to be on an appellate court first so you get some case history under your belt so you can prove you aren't solidly biased, and she's a moderate Democrat, but her Conservative positions are limited to Gun Control, mainly.


Except that she's a sitting senator. My understanding is that traditionally, nominees from the Senate to the SCOTUS have been pretty much unopposed, as a courtesy to one's colleagues; effectively, there's a members-only side door. Contrariwise, it looks like that traditional courtesy hasn't been tested since around WWII, and manners and collegiality seem to have done downhill since then.

But hey, if I'm engaging in wishful thinking, why not go full out.
 
2012-12-02 06:02:01 PM  

abb3w: But hey, if I'm engaging in wishful thinking, why not go full out.


"wishful thinking" and "Kirsten Gillibrand" gives me a different result than the SCOTUS...

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2012-12-02 06:46:23 PM  
Big thing is Biden really hasn't done anything spectacularly memorable as VP. Plus, I gotta agree with the folks- he may be far too old. Hillary might make it. But I can only see her as one term.
 
2012-12-02 06:46:47 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: ecmoRandomNumbers: It'll be interesting to see what Elizabeth Warren gets accomplished in the next 2 or 3 years. She might prove to have the chops for this kind of job. I think it just follows that we get the first female president after the first black one. Just like the order of suffrage in this country.

Could be Hillary?


Too old. Too polarizing too. About as likeable as Cheney to quite a few people. Would be a very easy mark for a non-derpy Republican.
 
2012-12-02 06:47:05 PM  

dugitman: He will be 74 years old. Reagan was only 73 when running as a popular incumbent.


Given that McCain ran without too much attention to his age, I don't think that would be an issue. Plus, he doesn't have Reagan's neck jowls.
 
2012-12-02 06:47:48 PM  

dugitman: He will be 74 years old. Reagan was only 73 when running as a popular incumbent.


He also had early alzheimers by then, we now know.
 
2012-12-02 06:55:26 PM  
Anthony Wiener had the most promise of just about anybody two years ago, and then he blew it with one great, stupid act. It's too bad, too, because the guy is scrappy and not afraid to stand up to Republicans. He easily could've been the country's first Jewish president.
 
2012-12-02 07:00:49 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: "wishful thinking" and "Kirsten Gillibrand" gives me a different result than the SCOTUS


Gentlemen prefer blondes, I prefer brunettes.... 

/but everyone has a smile for a redhead
 
2012-12-02 07:09:13 PM  
Who?
 
2012-12-02 07:12:48 PM  
Biden-Warren 2016. I am very much in favor of his pro-ice cream policies.

25.media.tumblr.com

/I scream, you scream, we all scream...
 
2012-12-02 07:15:41 PM  

Somacandra: Given that McCain ran without too much attention to his age, I don't think that would be an issue.


The Democratic 2008 election narrative was woven around him being a crotchety and/or kooky old man. And it worked. Granted, he didnt help himself much("that one", town hall wackiness), and the political climate & economy would have likely given the election to Obama anyway, but saying there wasnt much attention to McCain's age isn't true. Think of the fark memes and Onion headlines about McCain in 2008. It was very much an issue, particularly with Palin one heartbeat away.
 
2012-12-02 07:29:43 PM  
2016? I'm already looking forward to Tulsi Gabbard in 2032.
 
2012-12-02 07:57:28 PM  

Generation_D: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: ecmoRandomNumbers: It'll be interesting to see what Elizabeth Warren gets accomplished in the next 2 or 3 years. She might prove to have the chops for this kind of job. I think it just follows that we get the first female president after the first black one. Just like the order of suffrage in this country.

Could be Hillary?

Too old. Too polarizing too. About as likeable as Cheney to quite a few people. Would be a very easy mark for a non-derpy Republican.



Oh...are any of those still available?
 
2012-12-02 08:05:40 PM  
I'd vote for him.
 
2012-12-02 08:17:48 PM  

Generation_D: Too old. Too polarizing too. About as likeable as Cheney to quite a few people. Would be a very easy mark for a non-derpy Republican.


Hillary Clinton's approval ratings are in the high 60s. She's not that polarizing.
 
2012-12-02 08:19:34 PM  

make me some tea: I'd vote for him.


I'd vote for him twice.
 
2012-12-02 08:20:51 PM  
All those racists who would otherwise vote Democrat but refused to vote for the black guy would come back to the party and give Biden an even bigger landslide than Obama.
 
2012-12-02 08:21:45 PM  
leave it to the democrats to find a way to give the republicans a chance.

Its like here in Wisconsin, all the momentum was against walker and the democrats reponded by picking a candidate absolutely no one was excited about.

If Feingold ran, he'd be governor.
 
2012-12-02 08:21:46 PM  
I like Biden, but he's been a bit more cozy with Big Content than I'd like. Plus, that candor of his and his uncanny ability to talk faster than he thinks might not serve him well in the big chair. He's a great veep, don't get me wrong, but I just don't know about him as president.
 
2012-12-02 08:22:30 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: leave it to the democrats to find a way to give the republicans a chance.

Its like here in Wisconsin, all the momentum was against walker and the democrats reponded by picking a candidate absolutely no one was excited about.

If Feingold ran, he'd be governor.


I wish Feingold would have ran. It'd be an excellent platform to launch a 2016 presidential run.
 
2012-12-02 08:22:44 PM  

thisispete: Biden-Warren 2016. I am very much in favor of his pro-ice cream policies.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x271]

/I scream, you scream, we all scream...


Will they be running on a "Muscle car in every garage and two scoops of ice cream on every cone" platform?

I can't see a down side.
 
2012-12-02 08:25:39 PM  

Wyalt Derp: make me some tea: I'd vote for him.

I'd vote for him twice.


Even if Flavor Flav endorsed him?
 
2012-12-02 08:27:14 PM  
As a conservative, I have a really hard time disliking Joe Biden. He just seems like a normal human being who says whatever he is thinking at the time, rather than a politician who's every move is calculated with Ohio swing state voters in mind. Though, this may just be a reaction to over-exposure to Mitt Romney, who may have been the least relate-able politician ever.
 
2012-12-02 08:27:25 PM  
I freakin love Joe Biden but I don't know if I'd want him to be president.
 
2012-12-02 08:27:29 PM  
While many Americans probably couldn't name the Vice-President

What rock are people living under that they haven't figured out who the VP is after four years and two of the most expensive presidential campaigns on record?
 
2012-12-02 08:30:15 PM  

make me some tea: I'd vote for him.

 
2012-12-02 08:34:43 PM  
In 1988, I was this far from the nomination

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In 2016, I'll only be this far

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2012-12-02 08:35:47 PM  

FloydA: I'm pretty sure the Baby Boom generation have had all the presidents they're going to get.


Not even close, my friend. The youngest Boomers will only be 52 in 2016.
 
2012-12-02 08:35:53 PM  

GAT_00: Neither Hillary nor Joe will run. That's my prediction anyway. And if they do, neither of them will get the nod.


Joe has already indicated that he plans to keep running for office after Obama's term. In principle, I suppose he could try running for Congress again. But I'm fairly sure he's going to run for president in 2016. I'd bet money on it.

Whether or not he gets the nod is a different question. I like the man, but I would honestly prefer Hillary. She's got more gravitas, and will give the Democrats the opportunity to make history like in 2008 again. I know she claims she's not running... but I'm skeptical.
 
2012-12-02 08:38:20 PM  

mittromneysdog: I know she [Hillary] claims she's not running... but I'm skeptical.


You and me both.
 
2012-12-02 08:40:04 PM  
I'm going to start preemptively murdering anyone who says "X in 2016!!" just to clear the playing field.

Also because holy f*cking shiat, can't we have even a year now between campaign seasons?!??!? Please?!??!?
 
2012-12-02 08:40:10 PM  

mittromneysdog: Whether or not he gets the nod is a different question. I like the man, but I would honestly prefer Hillary. She's got more gravitas, and will give the Democrats the opportunity to make history like in 2008 again. I know she claims she's not running... but I'm skeptical.



Yea, I think there are a lot of indications that she's going to end up running, and it would be a fantastic opportunity for the party if she did. She's won over a lot of people in the last four years.

I mean... a hilarious meme was created about her, and she participated in it and created her own. She's a lot more fun than she used to be.
 
2012-12-02 08:42:08 PM  
Warren/Booker vs Huntsman/Christie
 
2012-12-02 08:42:12 PM  

BMulligan: mittromneysdog: I know she [Hillary] claims she's not running... but I'm skeptical.

You and me both.


I had a small amount of buyer's remorse with Hillary early in Obama's term, when it looked like he just wasn't equipped to deal with Congress. Hillary had experience in that area that Obama just lacked. It isn't clear we would have gotten a better health care law with Hillary, because the individual mandate was what she campaigned on in 2008. I don't recall if she had a position on a public option.
 
2012-12-02 08:42:37 PM  
If he was 20 or even 10 years younger, gooooo Joe!

Otherwise, no.
 
2012-12-02 08:45:43 PM  
Michelle Obama / Elizabeth Warren 2016
 
2012-12-02 08:45:49 PM  

mittromneysdog: BMulligan: mittromneysdog: I know she [Hillary] claims she's not running... but I'm skeptical.

You and me both.

I had a small amount of buyer's remorse with Hillary early in Obama's term, when it looked like he just wasn't equipped to deal with Congress. Hillary had experience in that area that Obama just lacked. It isn't clear we would have gotten a better health care law with Hillary, because the individual mandate was what she campaigned on in 2008. I don't recall if she had a position on a public option.


I know what you mean, but actually, I think State was the perfect role for her. I don't know how well she and the president get along personally, but they have been an excellent team.
 
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