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2012-12-02 01:50:37 PM
4 votes:
If all fish tastes the same to you, subby, then either you're going to crappy restaurants, or you can't cook, or both.
2012-12-02 02:56:07 PM
3 votes:
Ever think this is a GOOD thing?

Lemme point out- just about ALL the fisheries in the world are overfished. Say 2/3rds of the fish being sold are misrepesented, and actually the unlimited, unstressed, or farmed fish like tilapia.

Well relabeling isn't going to put 3x more fish into the world! There ain't any more fish.

The thing is, red snapper won't go extinct as long as the price is kept down by the fact that vendors can simply substitute tilapia for snapper. If you have a magic iPhone app to verify snapper DNA, suddenly the tilapia-substitution thing goes away, the price of genuine, verifiable red snapper skyrockets, and people get rich fishing red snapper to extinction, every fish taken making it more and more rare and increasing the price of the next one ever higher. Which is fark-all stupid knowing that people can't tell the difference if you DID give them tilapia and the only point here was to eat something rare out of a commodity fetish.
2012-12-02 05:55:10 PM
2 votes:
Un-farking-believable FTA:

"We're too busy to deal with such silliness," Janet Cooper, of Ken's Steak House, said after several phone interviews during which she could not explain why the restaurant was still selling far less expensive Pacific cod as locally caught fish.

Yea biatch? I'm too busy to patronize your shiatty, fraudulent establishment, coont.
2012-12-02 03:19:54 PM
2 votes:

Oznog: Ever think this is a GOOD thing?

Lemme point out- just about ALL the fisheries in the world are overfished. Say 2/3rds of the fish being sold are misrepesented, and actually the unlimited, unstressed, or farmed fish like tilapia.

Well relabeling isn't going to put 3x more fish into the world! There ain't any more fish.

The thing is, red snapper won't go extinct as long as the price is kept down by the fact that vendors can simply substitute tilapia for snapper. If you have a magic iPhone app to verify snapper DNA, suddenly the tilapia-substitution thing goes away, the price of genuine, verifiable red snapper skyrockets, and people get rich fishing red snapper to extinction, every fish taken making it more and more rare and increasing the price of the next one ever higher. Which is fark-all stupid knowing that people can't tell the difference if you DID give them tilapia and the only point here was to eat something rare out of a commodity fetish.


I agree with you about overfishing, but what these guys are doing is outright fraud to make a buck.

That said, I dont understand the stigma attached to tilapia. It is a decent mild white fish that tastes fine. Just properly label it as such.
2012-12-02 03:04:33 PM
2 votes:
Fish is gross.

And it all tastes the same.
2012-12-02 03:01:07 PM
2 votes:
It is not appropriate for the government to regulate this because public health is not at risk, and the environment is actually helped.
However, there is a mile-wide opening for commercial fishing interests to set up some sort of private organization with a logo people can trust saying exactly what fish it is. With a little publicity, restaurants with the logo on their menu should be able to charge more for their fish.
2012-12-02 02:57:42 PM
2 votes:
C) Deregulate the market and let the companies police themselves?
2012-12-02 06:19:47 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: If all fish tastes the same to you, subby, then either you're going to crappy restaurants, or you can't cook, or both.


I'm guessing he's hinting to the fact resturaunt goers gulp it down like they're eating some rare delicacy with apparently very little fallout if any at all. That's enough to say that people that think they're payhing for a pricier fish can't tell the difference. It's really trhe same for most consumibles. Like people couldn't tell the difference between Great Value coffee and the $4 one they pay for at Starbucks. It's more like they want to be seen as have higher taste when in reality they're just douches and not ultra elite consumers.
2012-12-02 05:06:48 PM
1 votes:

GentDirkly: It is not appropriate for the government to regulate this because public health is not at risk, and the environment is actually helped.


I present thee with the perils of Ciguatera. (^)
2012-12-02 04:38:12 PM
1 votes:

Oznog: Ever think this is a GOOD thing?

Lemme point out- just about ALL the fisheries in the world are overfished. Say 2/3rds of the fish being sold are misrepesented, and actually the unlimited, unstressed, or farmed fish like tilapia.

Well relabeling isn't going to put 3x more fish into the world! There ain't any more fish.

The thing is, red snapper won't go extinct as long as the price is kept down by the fact that vendors can simply substitute tilapia for snapper. If you have a magic iPhone app to verify snapper DNA, suddenly the tilapia-substitution thing goes away, the price of genuine, verifiable red snapper skyrockets, and people get rich fishing red snapper to extinction, every fish taken making it more and more rare and increasing the price of the next one ever higher. Which is fark-all stupid knowing that people can't tell the difference if you DID give them tilapia and the only point here was to eat something rare out of a commodity fetish.


Rather than tolerate fraud to protect species, logic (to me) suggests 1) very high fines, and/or prison sentences, for fraud, and ginormous fines and very very long prison sentences for fishing and selling protected species. It ought to be illegal to fish red snapper. If it's on the menu, you should already be in trouble.

Or we can just go with systemic consumer fraud. I'm sure that will end well.

"Go ahead, expectant mothers! This authentic red snapper contains no mercury! Wink wink!"
2012-12-02 03:55:17 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: Seacop:

I love that some of the menus listed "SCROD" as the fish of the day.


Seaman's Catch Received On Deck, meaning "whatever whitefish is flopping around" is usually what's meant.

It's amusing when people go on about how much they love scrod over other varieties of fish.
2012-12-02 03:49:13 PM
1 votes:

GentDirkly: It is not appropriate for the government to regulate this because public health is not at risk, and the environment is actually helped.


go eat a bunch of escolar and tell me the public health is not at risk. also no risk to your clean underwear
2012-12-02 03:42:52 PM
1 votes:

keytronic: Oznog: Ever think this is a GOOD thing?

Lemme point out- just about ALL the fisheries in the world are overfished. Say 2/3rds of the fish being sold are misrepesented, and actually the unlimited, unstressed, or farmed fish like tilapia.

Well relabeling isn't going to put 3x more fish into the world! There ain't any more fish.

The thing is, red snapper won't go extinct as long as the price is kept down by the fact that vendors can simply substitute tilapia for snapper. If you have a magic iPhone app to verify snapper DNA, suddenly the tilapia-substitution thing goes away, the price of genuine, verifiable red snapper skyrockets, and people get rich fishing red snapper to extinction, every fish taken making it more and more rare and increasing the price of the next one ever higher. Which is fark-all stupid knowing that people can't tell the difference if you DID give them tilapia and the only point here was to eat something rare out of a commodity fetish.

Whaa?

It's theft, plain and simple. Sure, it's not on the same level as selling a fake diamond as a real one...but the same principle.


Eh, true... that said, I still might pull a Folger's Coffee switch on my Mom for Christmas Eve.

She's insisting on Orange Roughy out of tradition. I'd rather buy Michigan caught whitefish (especially considering I can buy directly from the people who catch it, and it's cheaper). I probably won't have the guts to do a whole scale switch, but we bread it and bake it and I might throw a couple of filets of whitefish in there to see if anyone can tell.

Granted, it's still got skin on one side, but I'm the one doing the breading and baking anyhow...And the filets are a similar size and both white fleshed.

/shrug
//yeah, I know it's tradition, Mom, but we might not have that option soon so we might as well find a good switch now
///that benefits the local economy and all too...
2012-12-02 03:39:36 PM
1 votes:
Best tasting fish God ever made - if you don't know what it is, you don't eat good fish -
/kinda cheating since it's not available commercially, so all you folks West of the Mississippi get a break



www.fly-fishing-discounters.com
2012-12-02 03:23:39 PM
1 votes:

Oznog: Ever think this is a GOOD thing?

Lemme point out- just about ALL the fisheries in the world are overfished. Say 2/3rds of the fish being sold are misrepesented, and actually the unlimited, unstressed, or farmed fish like tilapia.

Well relabeling isn't going to put 3x more fish into the world! There ain't any more fish.

The thing is, red snapper won't go extinct as long as the price is kept down by the fact that vendors can simply substitute tilapia for snapper. If you have a magic iPhone app to verify snapper DNA, suddenly the tilapia-substitution thing goes away, the price of genuine, verifiable red snapper skyrockets, and people get rich fishing red snapper to extinction, every fish taken making it more and more rare and increasing the price of the next one ever higher. Which is fark-all stupid knowing that people can't tell the difference if you DID give them tilapia and the only point here was to eat something rare out of a commodity fetish.


That's a fantastic rationalization and it's due to the fact that you're not concerned with it personally.

If the same thing were to happen to you where you were being deceived about something you value highly you'd be extremely pissed off at people for being "creative" with rationalization like you are now and be unaware of your own hypocrisy.
2012-12-02 03:14:03 PM
1 votes:

GentDirkly: It is not appropriate for the government to regulate this because public health is not at risk, and the environment is actually helped.
However, there is a mile-wide opening for commercial fishing interests to set up some sort of private organization with a logo people can trust saying exactly what fish it is. With a little publicity, restaurants with the logo on their menu should be able to charge more for their fish.


It's not the government's place to stop fraud? That's news to me.
2012-12-02 03:10:26 PM
1 votes:

doczoidberg: Fish is gross.

And it all tastes the same.


This.

/the vinegar and lemon juice are to hide the smell of the amines
2012-12-02 03:08:14 PM
1 votes:
But not all Pu**y tastes like fish.
2012-12-02 03:05:18 PM
1 votes:
wrong, online idiots. SOME fish taste the same. Many do not.
2012-12-02 03:04:15 PM
1 votes:
It's almost like that time I ordered Chilean Sea Bass and was served Patagonian toothfish, instead.
2012-12-02 03:03:20 PM
1 votes:

GentDirkly: It is not appropriate for the government to regulate this because public health is not at risk, and the environment is actually helped.


Good news, everyone: it's okay to defraud your customers as long as you don't give them anything that harms their health.

This is what conservatives actually believe.
2012-12-02 02:47:17 PM
1 votes:
Ken's Steak House

Stopped reading right there..
2012-12-02 01:43:48 PM
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Uh, no, submitter. Salmon tastes very different from fish like cod or sole, both with have a mild flavor.


Actually it turns out all 3 of those were tilapia. Sorry brah.
2012-12-02 01:31:24 PM
1 votes:
Uh, no, submitter. Salmon tastes very different from fish like cod or sole, both with have a mild flavor.
2012-12-02 11:07:44 AM
1 votes:
Doesn't help that restaurants cook the crap out of fish. It tastes like something if it isn't reduced to a tough brick of protein.
 
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