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(CNN)   CNN makes sure to use quotation marks when referring to marijuana prohibition. Cause, you know it's not really prohibition   (cnn.com) divider line 28
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2012-12-02 10:29:51 AM
7 votes:
Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences, and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.
2012-12-02 12:28:15 PM
4 votes:
The real issue for the Feds? Uppity States thinking they can DEFY THEIR AUTHORITAY.

If they are allowed to get away with thumbing their noses at federal marijuana laws, what will those sneaky States try next?

Marijuana is a "gateway freedom".
2012-12-02 12:00:39 PM
4 votes:
I don't care about marijuana one way or the other. I just think it's healthy to see the states push back against the federal government every once in a while.
2012-12-02 11:47:25 AM
3 votes:

Weaver95: As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis. they NEED local support, otherwise they don't have enough money to do anything useful.

other than a few flashy high profile actions, the best thing the DEA can do is find someone to make an example of and hope the federal courts reverse what the states are doing.


The problem is that a shift in the political climate would be all they would need to bring prohibition back - say, for example, Romney had won instead of Obama. Feds control a large amount of funding to these states, their law enforcement, and numerous other programs. All they would have to do would be to make it like the nationwide BAC standard - set an arbitrary limit which if the state didn't enforce, they would cut federal funding to essential programs.

However, I've often stated that decriminalization is going to be the easy part. Retail legalization is going to be the hard part.

Weaver95: those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.


And anyone who calls marijuana a gateway drug should throw up a red flag, and be seen as unreliable. It's just about as factual as "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.
2012-12-02 02:46:19 PM
2 votes:

zvoidx: Lost in the debate is that fact that marijuana supply, especially near urban areas, can be tainted with something or another. Sometimes there are added drugs such as angel dust, crack ore even roach spray. This is done to stay competitive versus regular pot.


Yeah, this is bullshiat. The way to be competitive is to have good weed, not to adulterate it. 

Unless you know something I don't about "urban" areas (projects).
2012-12-02 12:09:23 PM
2 votes:

douchebag/hater: No, people want legalized pot for no other reason than to keep from getting arrested.


yah, that's a pretty good reason, really.
2012-12-02 11:53:57 AM
2 votes:
I took the quotation marks as, "prohibition" has quotation marks around it because we're specifically invoking the word's primary association, in reference to the ALCOHOL prohibition that ended in 1933.

By making this comparison, it seemed to me that CNN was directly predicting that the laws against marijuana, like alcohol historically, will be lifted eventually.
2012-12-02 11:52:20 AM
2 votes:
....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

like alcohol?
2012-12-02 11:52:01 AM
2 votes:
FTA: "Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago."

Yes, CNN, a century ago it would have been unthinkable to see someone drinking on TV.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-02 11:51:09 AM
2 votes:
Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?

A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.
2012-12-02 11:26:33 AM
2 votes:
This is the sort of hard-hitting "news" that I expect from CNN.
2012-12-02 03:20:40 PM
1 votes:
Weed is not taxable to any great degree because growing it and curing it is simple to do. This is evident by the fact that so many people do it. People who argue this point are uninformed. Analogy to other production is irrelevant. Potheads typically love to grow their substance of choice. The authorities were effectively able to take methaqualone out of society when they chose to because the technicalities of that situation were different.
2012-12-02 03:07:13 PM
1 votes:
Here in Colorado, the introduction of the medical dispenseries has dropped the black market price of weed. It used to be around $350 for an OZ of good stuff. Now it's usually under $250.

No way in hell taxes will make the price "too high".
2012-12-02 01:21:01 PM
1 votes:
"Each of us has a short ride on this earth and as long as we stay in our lane, and don't affect someone else's ride, we should be allowed to drive as we see fit."

-Rob Thomas
2012-12-02 01:04:14 PM
1 votes:

Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.


Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves
2012-12-02 01:02:23 PM
1 votes:

Shadow Blasko: If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.


I don't understand this. If you're talking by volume then the amount of tobacco in one 20-pack of grade A butts is close to an ounce. The average smoker is one pack a day. A pothead will use an ounce every two weeks on average. I'm just not getting how the tobacco rate on pot would be as onerous as the black market cost?
2012-12-02 12:43:31 PM
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: It's not.

And this: Seriously, how many people alive now - and smoking dope- were alive when smoking dope was legal?

One? 10?

Not enough to call it 'prohibition' in same way alcohol was prohibited.


LOL. What? Your logic machine is broken. Prohibition is prohibition; it means something is prohibited from being used.


No, people want legalized pot for no other reason than to keep from getting arrested.


Yeah that would be great, instead of locking up a huge segment of the population, A disproportionately darker-skinned segment too.

Will pot smokers face the same violations as drunk drivers?

Yes. Why not?

Will there be a call for 'treatment' centers to deal with all the new cases of pot abuse?

Pot is not really addictive. Not nearly as addictive as cigarettes, alcohol, caffeine, etc. I speak from personal experience.

Be smart and logical about it and don't legalize pot and avoid all the new users.

I think you are the one who needs to be smart and logical.

Besides:
1) Don't we as a society have enough problems with legalized alcohol?


Alcohol is bad so legalizing something much safer is bad? LOL what?

and
2) How do you rectify stopping tobacco use but allowing marijuana use? Both involve inhaling dangerous substances; if you think that pot is as pure as the driven snow with no known risks you're a willful fool.


A) Who is stopping tobacco use? Last time I checked it is still legal and in widespread use. B) Pot seems to be less carcinogenic than cigarettes. In the end though it is a matter of choice. Furthermore, there is no real possibility of overdose with pot, unlike alcohol and many other things.

I hope for your sake that you are a troll and not this dense.
2012-12-02 12:35:09 PM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: One is a member of that DICE team in Nashville.


Not long ago where I live in SW Michigan, a news story was proudly heralded on one of our local stations of a large marijuana growing bust by our big drug bust people (It's called K-VET here, I think)...and they mentioned that helicopters were used to extensively to located and to search some more to make sure all of it was confiscated.

I mean, really, people? I want somebody who's anti-legalization to come on here and please explain to me how using farking helicopters is a good and sensible use of tax dollars to keep people from smoking something that grows naturally and helps them feel happy for a little while. Go ahead. I dare you to try and argue for this not being completely farking crazy.
2012-12-02 12:29:18 PM
1 votes:

Ow My Balls: BronyMedic: And anyone who calls marijuana a gateway drug should throw up a red flag, and be seen as unreliable. It's just about as factual as "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.

A couple of Christmases ago, I was arguing with my 50-year-old law enforcement brother-in-law and, in the same room, a younger guy in his twenties also in law enforcement who was dating my niece-in-law, both of them adamant that legalizing marijuana would obviously lead to lots and lots of people suddenly trying harder drugs like Cocaine, and also that we shouldn't condone such dangerous behavior as smoking marijuana in the first place, that people should be sober and with it in general and it's a proper function of the government and the police to force people to be sober, straight and productive members of society for their own good.

At some point, you just smile and nod with these types of people.

/social conservatives for the Fail


yeah I have the same type in my family. One is a member of that DICE team in Nashville.
2012-12-02 12:26:47 PM
1 votes:

Taylor Mental: Here's your not really prohibition, dumbfarks. Link


You may want to slap a NSFW tag on that, btw.

/seems a bit like overkill
2012-12-02 12:20:47 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: And anyone who calls marijuana a gateway drug should throw up a red flag, and be seen as unreliable. It's just about as factual as "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.


A couple of Christmases ago, I was arguing with my 50-year-old law enforcement brother-in-law and, in the same room, a younger guy in his twenties also in law enforcement who was dating my niece-in-law, both of them adamant that legalizing marijuana would obviously lead to lots and lots of people suddenly trying harder drugs like Cocaine, and also that we shouldn't condone such dangerous behavior as smoking marijuana in the first place, that people should be sober and with it in general and it's a proper function of the government and the police to force people to be sober, straight and productive members of society for their own good.

At some point, you just smile and nod with these types of people.

/social conservatives for the Fail
2012-12-02 12:12:47 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: Marijuana ruined my life. One time I did the marijuana and now I write for CNN.


You poor man! :( 

/Just in case anyone thinks I am serious, I vastly prefer CNN to Fox and MSNBC. On the other hand, if news were a food item, it would be a marshmallow.
2012-12-02 12:10:00 PM
1 votes:
I can make the rhetoric used to ban alcohol and pot also fit beef or sugar.

A chunk of the argument wouldn't have any relation to reality, which is par for the course.
2012-12-02 11:50:04 AM
1 votes:

Snarfangel: This is the sort of hard-hitting "news" that I expect from CNN.


You'd rather rely on "fair and balanced" from Fox? Go for it, non-thinking person.
2012-12-02 11:49:30 AM
1 votes:
It's worse than alcohol prohitibition. We actually worried about following the Constitution back then.
2012-12-02 11:48:30 AM
1 votes:
Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?
2012-12-02 11:18:54 AM
1 votes:
As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis. they NEED local support, otherwise they don't have enough money to do anything useful.

other than a few flashy high profile actions, the best thing the DEA can do is find someone to make an example of and hope the federal courts reverse what the states are doing.
2012-12-02 10:36:43 AM
1 votes:
Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences,

*bzzzt*

....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.


*BZZZZZZZZT*
 
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