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2012-12-02 10:29:51 AM  
Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences, and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.
 
2012-12-02 10:36:43 AM  
Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences,

*bzzzt*

....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.


*BZZZZZZZZT*
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-02 10:48:33 AM  
CNN makes sure to use quotation marks when referring to marijuana prohibition. Cause, you know it's not really prohibition.

CNN uses quotation marks around a direct quote from subjects of an interview.
 
2012-12-02 11:14:23 AM  
My cousin's neighbor's older brother gave some Marijuana to a girl once and when he got back to the car after going to get some rubbers...they made sweet, safe, sensual and consensual love many times that evening.
 
2012-12-02 11:15:52 AM  
TL;DR - You can't legislate derp
 
2012-12-02 11:18:54 AM  
As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis. they NEED local support, otherwise they don't have enough money to do anything useful.

other than a few flashy high profile actions, the best thing the DEA can do is find someone to make an example of and hope the federal courts reverse what the states are doing.
 
2012-12-02 11:26:33 AM  
This is the sort of hard-hitting "news" that I expect from CNN.
 
2012-12-02 11:47:25 AM  

Weaver95: As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis. they NEED local support, otherwise they don't have enough money to do anything useful.

other than a few flashy high profile actions, the best thing the DEA can do is find someone to make an example of and hope the federal courts reverse what the states are doing.


The problem is that a shift in the political climate would be all they would need to bring prohibition back - say, for example, Romney had won instead of Obama. Feds control a large amount of funding to these states, their law enforcement, and numerous other programs. All they would have to do would be to make it like the nationwide BAC standard - set an arbitrary limit which if the state didn't enforce, they would cut federal funding to essential programs.

However, I've often stated that decriminalization is going to be the easy part. Retail legalization is going to be the hard part.

Weaver95: those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.


And anyone who calls marijuana a gateway drug should throw up a red flag, and be seen as unreliable. It's just about as factual as "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.
 
2012-12-02 11:48:30 AM  
Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?
 
2012-12-02 11:49:30 AM  
It's worse than alcohol prohitibition. We actually worried about following the Constitution back then.
 
2012-12-02 11:49:55 AM  
I'm going to go get potted up on weed and drive now.
 
2012-12-02 11:50:04 AM  

Snarfangel: This is the sort of hard-hitting "news" that I expect from CNN.


You'd rather rely on "fair and balanced" from Fox? Go for it, non-thinking person.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-02 11:51:09 AM  
Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?

A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.
 
2012-12-02 11:52:01 AM  
FTA: "Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago."

Yes, CNN, a century ago it would have been unthinkable to see someone drinking on TV.
 
2012-12-02 11:52:20 AM  
....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

like alcohol?
 
2012-12-02 11:53:32 AM  
it's a gateway to being stupid
 
2012-12-02 11:53:57 AM  
I took the quotation marks as, "prohibition" has quotation marks around it because we're specifically invoking the word's primary association, in reference to the ALCOHOL prohibition that ended in 1933.

By making this comparison, it seemed to me that CNN was directly predicting that the laws against marijuana, like alcohol historically, will be lifted eventually.
 
2012-12-02 11:54:04 AM  
Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago.

Since we didn't, ya know.. like HAVE any farking televisions nearly a century ago.

That's some mighty fine "Journalism" you got there CNNtards.
 
2012-12-02 11:55:29 AM  
But...REEFER MADNESS!
 
2012-12-02 11:55:51 AM  

ZAZ: Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?

A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.


Yeah, i'm sorry your friend sucks?
 
2012-12-02 11:57:14 AM  
Marijuana is bad news. I know a guy who did marijuana once. 10 years later, he died in a car crash. Coincidence? I don't think so.
 
2012-12-02 11:57:37 AM  
Perhaps because "prohibition" often seems to have the opposite of its intended effect.
 
2012-12-02 12:00:39 PM  
I don't care about marijuana one way or the other. I just think it's healthy to see the states push back against the federal government every once in a while.
 
2012-12-02 12:02:04 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: FTA: "Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago."

Yes, CNN, a century ago it would have been unthinkable to see someone drinking on TV.


/FTFY
 
2012-12-02 12:03:11 PM  

Ender's: Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences,

*bzzzt*

....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.


*BZZZZZZZZT*


The same tired propaganda ...
 
2012-12-02 12:04:03 PM  

LlamaGirl: I'm going to go get potted up on weed and drive now.


I actually just smoked the dregs out of last nights bowl, and am loading another one to fire up on the 16th or 17th hole.
 
2012-12-02 12:04:04 PM  
Potted up on weed youse guys! We are farked!!!
 
2012-12-02 12:05:28 PM  

MFAWG: LlamaGirl: I'm going to go get potted up on weed and drive now.

I actually just smoked the dregs out of last nights bowl, and am loading another one to fire up on the 16th or 17th hole.


Don't shoot your eye out. Marijuana is dangerous!
 
2012-12-02 12:05:30 PM  
Guess which legal, inhibition lowering gateway drug introduced me to marijuana?

/hint: the legal machinery that was put into place to curb its use wound up being redirected towards MJ back in the 30s
 
2012-12-02 12:05:40 PM  

germ78: AliceBToklasLives: FTA: "Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago."

Yes, CNN, a century ago it would have been unthinkable to see someone drinking on TV.

/FTFY


The first demonstration of the instantaneous transmission of still silhouette images was by Georges Rignoux and A. Fournier in Paris in 1909, using a rotating mirror-drum as the scanner and a matrix of 64 selenium cells as the receiver.

HAHA... You're wrong - dorks of old transmitted a dandy having a cocktail in silhouette.
 
2012-12-02 12:07:39 PM  

germ78: Guess which legal, inhibition lowering gateway drug introduced me to marijuana?


a fat mexican named Raul introduced me to marijuana.

i should probably send Raul a christmas card.
 
2012-12-02 12:07:59 PM  

germ78: Guess which legal, inhibition lowering gateway drug introduced me to marijuana?

/hint: the legal machinery that was put into place to curb its use wound up being redirected towards MJ back in the 30s


Caffeine?
 
2012-12-02 12:08:09 PM  
Marijuana ruined my life. One time I did the marijuana and now I write for CNN.
 
2012-12-02 12:08:23 PM  
It's not.

And this: Seriously, how many people alive now - and smoking dope- were alive when smoking dope was legal?

One? 10?

Not enough to call it 'prohibition' in same way alcohol was prohibited.

No, people want legalized pot for no other reason than to keep from getting arrested.

Will pot smokers face the same violations as drunk drivers?
Will there be a call for 'treatment' centers to deal with all the new cases of pot abuse?

Be smart and logical about it and don't legalize pot and avoid all the new users.

Besides:
1) Don't we as a society have enough problems with legalized alcohol?
and
2) How do you rectify stopping tobacco use but allowing marijuana use? Both involve inhaling dangerous substances; if you think that pot is as pure as the driven snow with no known risks you're a willful fool.
 
2012-12-02 12:08:31 PM  

ZAZ: A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.


Better than being dull and an awful writer while sober, like you.
 
2012-12-02 12:08:57 PM  
Ban all vices! Junk foods! Candy! Cookies!
 
2012-12-02 12:09:23 PM  

douchebag/hater: No, people want legalized pot for no other reason than to keep from getting arrested.


yah, that's a pretty good reason, really.
 
2012-12-02 12:10:00 PM  
I can make the rhetoric used to ban alcohol and pot also fit beef or sugar.

A chunk of the argument wouldn't have any relation to reality, which is par for the course.
 
2012-12-02 12:10:56 PM  

LlamaGirl: MFAWG: LlamaGirl: I'm going to go get potted up on weed and drive now.

I actually just smoked the dregs out of last nights bowl, and am loading another one to fire up on the 16th or 17th hole.

Don't shoot your eye out. Marijuana is dangerous!


The only thing in danger will be the burger and fries I plan to have after my round, and MAYBE the maintenance shed to the left of 18 fairway.

Won't SOMEBODY think of the maintenance shed?
 
2012-12-02 12:11:44 PM  
It gave a warm fuzzy to the Fix News viewers giving their remote controls a weekly try.
 
2012-12-02 12:12:27 PM  
Aliens.
 
2012-12-02 12:12:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Marijuana ruined my life. One time I did the marijuana and now I write for CNN.


You poor man! :( 

/Just in case anyone thinks I am serious, I vastly prefer CNN to Fox and MSNBC. On the other hand, if news were a food item, it would be a marshmallow.
 
2012-12-02 12:14:00 PM  

machoprogrammer: Marijuana is bad news. I know a guy who did marijuana once. 10 years later, he died in a car crash. Coincidence? I don't think so.


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"He's dead!"
 
2012-12-02 12:14:30 PM  

ZAZ: Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?

A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.


You bore me.
 
2012-12-02 12:14:58 PM  

Ender's: Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences,

*bzzzt*

....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.


*BZZZZZZZZT*


I had coffee this morning. By noon I was chugging down 4 Loco. By the time the sun went down I had hocked my car, lost the house and sold the kids into slavery all for an 8 ball of meth.
 
2012-12-02 12:20:47 PM  

BronyMedic: And anyone who calls marijuana a gateway drug should throw up a red flag, and be seen as unreliable. It's just about as factual as "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.


A couple of Christmases ago, I was arguing with my 50-year-old law enforcement brother-in-law and, in the same room, a younger guy in his twenties also in law enforcement who was dating my niece-in-law, both of them adamant that legalizing marijuana would obviously lead to lots and lots of people suddenly trying harder drugs like Cocaine, and also that we shouldn't condone such dangerous behavior as smoking marijuana in the first place, that people should be sober and with it in general and it's a proper function of the government and the police to force people to be sober, straight and productive members of society for their own good.

At some point, you just smile and nod with these types of people.

/social conservatives for the Fail
 
2012-12-02 12:21:37 PM  

badhatharry: It's worse than alcohol prohitibition. We actually worried about following the Constitution back then.


general welfare, commerce, necessary and proper...the feds can ban whatever they want, whenever they want
 
2012-12-02 12:23:37 PM  

ZAZ: Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?

A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.


but did you ever try reading his stuff....ON WEED!!!
 
2012-12-02 12:24:00 PM  

wildcardjack: I can make the rhetoric used to ban alcohol and pot also fit beef or sugar.

A chunk of the argument wouldn't have any relation to reality, which is par for the course.


Alcohol is actually addictive and dangerous when abused, unlike the other ones. Ok, sugar can kill you slowly over time if you way overuse it.
 
2012-12-02 12:24:26 PM  
Here's your not really prohibition, dumbfarks. Link
 
2012-12-02 12:26:07 PM  

Taylor Mental: Here's your not really prohibition, dumbfarks. Link


Really, dude?
 
2012-12-02 12:26:47 PM  

Taylor Mental: Here's your not really prohibition, dumbfarks. Link


You may want to slap a NSFW tag on that, btw.

/seems a bit like overkill
 
2012-12-02 12:28:06 PM  
Marihuana impregnated my cat.
 
2012-12-02 12:28:15 PM  
The real issue for the Feds? Uppity States thinking they can DEFY THEIR AUTHORITAY.

If they are allowed to get away with thumbing their noses at federal marijuana laws, what will those sneaky States try next?

Marijuana is a "gateway freedom".
 
2012-12-02 12:29:18 PM  

Ow My Balls: BronyMedic: And anyone who calls marijuana a gateway drug should throw up a red flag, and be seen as unreliable. It's just about as factual as "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.

A couple of Christmases ago, I was arguing with my 50-year-old law enforcement brother-in-law and, in the same room, a younger guy in his twenties also in law enforcement who was dating my niece-in-law, both of them adamant that legalizing marijuana would obviously lead to lots and lots of people suddenly trying harder drugs like Cocaine, and also that we shouldn't condone such dangerous behavior as smoking marijuana in the first place, that people should be sober and with it in general and it's a proper function of the government and the police to force people to be sober, straight and productive members of society for their own good.

At some point, you just smile and nod with these types of people.

/social conservatives for the Fail


yeah I have the same type in my family. One is a member of that DICE team in Nashville.
 
2012-12-02 12:29:41 PM  
I use quotes around "marijuana" because it's a government word that I don't use as a rule.
 
2012-12-02 12:29:51 PM  

special20: Snarfangel: This is the sort of hard-hitting "news" that I expect from CNN.

You'd rather rely on "fair and balanced" from Fox? Go for it, non-thinking person.


Because NPR, PBS, and the BBC don't exist? There is only CNN and FOX and NOTHING else whatsoever? Honestly, that has to be the dumbest farking thing I've heard all morning.
 
2012-12-02 12:30:07 PM  
It was no different when alcohol was banned, Peck said. Despite the American Medical Association saying alcohol had no medicinal value, the Volstead Act, which led to the federal ban on alcohol, stated that no one could prescribe alcohol except "a physician duly licensed to practice medicine" -- much to the delight of the nation's Jay Gatsbys.

My grandfather told stories about how during prohibition his parents would send him and his sister to the pharmacy to pick up "medicinal" ethanol for his parents during prohibition and that the whole adult family would gather to have a party and take the "medicine", typically mixed with other things to make gin or whiskey.
 
2012-12-02 12:31:28 PM  

MFAWG: LlamaGirl: I'm going to go get potted up on weed and drive now.

I actually just smoked the dregs out of last nights bowl, and am loading another one to fire up on the 16th or 17th hole.



See? Marijuana DOES lead to promiscuous sex!
 
2012-12-02 12:32:24 PM  
Al Jazeera? RT? Pacifica? WSWS?
 
2012-12-02 12:35:09 PM  

Hobodeluxe: One is a member of that DICE team in Nashville.


Not long ago where I live in SW Michigan, a news story was proudly heralded on one of our local stations of a large marijuana growing bust by our big drug bust people (It's called K-VET here, I think)...and they mentioned that helicopters were used to extensively to located and to search some more to make sure all of it was confiscated.

I mean, really, people? I want somebody who's anti-legalization to come on here and please explain to me how using farking helicopters is a good and sensible use of tax dollars to keep people from smoking something that grows naturally and helps them feel happy for a little while. Go ahead. I dare you to try and argue for this not being completely farking crazy.
 
2012-12-02 12:37:00 PM  
to extensively to located

Make that, "...to extensively locate..."

I am constantly trying to type things on the computer while a 3-year-old boy is doing his 3-year-old boy things...
 
2012-12-02 12:38:55 PM  

Ow My Balls: Go ahead. I dare you to try and argue for this not being completely farking crazy.


Did you think of the children? No, I don't think you did. Checkmate.
 
2012-12-02 12:42:16 PM  
When I was a children, I smoked weed all the time. In fact, if not for the concurrent acohol consumption, I'm cautiously optimistic that I would have turned out to be a contributing member of society.
 
2012-12-02 12:43:31 PM  

douchebag/hater: It's not.

And this: Seriously, how many people alive now - and smoking dope- were alive when smoking dope was legal?

One? 10?

Not enough to call it 'prohibition' in same way alcohol was prohibited.


LOL. What? Your logic machine is broken. Prohibition is prohibition; it means something is prohibited from being used.


No, people want legalized pot for no other reason than to keep from getting arrested.


Yeah that would be great, instead of locking up a huge segment of the population, A disproportionately darker-skinned segment too.

Will pot smokers face the same violations as drunk drivers?

Yes. Why not?

Will there be a call for 'treatment' centers to deal with all the new cases of pot abuse?

Pot is not really addictive. Not nearly as addictive as cigarettes, alcohol, caffeine, etc. I speak from personal experience.

Be smart and logical about it and don't legalize pot and avoid all the new users.

I think you are the one who needs to be smart and logical.

Besides:
1) Don't we as a society have enough problems with legalized alcohol?


Alcohol is bad so legalizing something much safer is bad? LOL what?

and
2) How do you rectify stopping tobacco use but allowing marijuana use? Both involve inhaling dangerous substances; if you think that pot is as pure as the driven snow with no known risks you're a willful fool.


A) Who is stopping tobacco use? Last time I checked it is still legal and in widespread use. B) Pot seems to be less carcinogenic than cigarettes. In the end though it is a matter of choice. Furthermore, there is no real possibility of overdose with pot, unlike alcohol and many other things.

I hope for your sake that you are a troll and not this dense.
 
2012-12-02 12:44:28 PM  
Same old story, rehashed and updated. Current Admin. ought to simply reschedule the shiat and be done with it.

Facts on the ground haven't altered one iota since the stuff was elevated to evil.

Number of individuals examined/treated in ER's for conditions attributable to marijuana, alone? Zilch
Number of individuals seen in `therapy' for conditions attributable to marijuana, alone? Zilch (the `law' sent them, or they are self-medicating)
Number of calls to Poison Control for complaints arising for use of marijuana, alone? Zilch (though they get plenty of quality control calls, e.g., `can I smoke it if it smells like pee?')
Number of individuals who've expired owing to the use of marijuana, alone? Zilch
Number of tax dollars expended during the past 40 yrs, alone, to suppress so dangerous a scourge? (far worse, innocent folks killed in the crossfire)

Gateway BS? Can't be sure beyond mother's milk/formula - but get back with some hard data, someday...

/growing Castor Bean plants (deer proof ornamentals) every summer - perfectly legal - enough Ricin to take out an army of Bulgarian defectors..
//`doing it wrong, to achieve the `good' is O.K. if one wishes to flail oneself - using my money to flail others? fark off and die
 
2012-12-02 12:47:29 PM  

insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?


Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.
 
2012-12-02 12:52:28 PM  

Crazy Lee: Number of individuals who've expired owing to the use of marijuana, alone? Zilch


Serious question... does that include people who have done stupid shiat when they smoked themselves stupid and gotten killed?

Because I knew a not too bright snowflake who smoked themselves just absolutely braindead one night, and then tried to go to the store to get some mac and cheese. (seriously) he either didn't notice the train, or didn't realize he was stopped past the gates.

Now, he might have done that sober too.. (seriously .. he was an idiot) so would that kind of thing be included in those numbers?

/pro-legalization, but anti-"pot never killed anyone" rhetoric. It's not a good idea to drive stoned... on anything.
 
2012-12-02 12:54:16 PM  

Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.


Ok, sure, but tobacco is not explicitly illegal. Pot will never be legalized with high amounts of taxation. There's too much money in it for the government. I would wager that the government already has a taxation plan mapped out in the event that it is legalized.
 
2012-12-02 12:54:20 PM  

Weaver95: As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis. they NEED local support, otherwise they don't have enough money to do anything useful.

other than a few flashy high profile actions, the best thing the DEA can do is find someone to make an example of and hope the federal courts reverse what the states are doing.


At some point the federal government is going to have to decide which way they want things to be regarding state enforcement of federal law. See AZ SB1070.
 
2012-12-02 12:54:59 PM  
Let's also not forget that not too long ago "betting on numbers" and other gambling were illegal and now we have lotteries and casinos everywhere.

The only way the government can regulate and control things that people insist on doing is by legalizing it.
 
2012-12-02 12:55:50 PM  

insano: Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.

Ok, sure, but tobacco is not explicitly illegal. Pot will never be legalized without high amounts of taxation. There's too much money in it for the government. I would wager that the government already has a taxation plan mapped out in the event that it is legalized.


Corrected myself.
 
2012-12-02 12:56:35 PM  

JesseL:

At some point the federal government is going to have to decide which way they want things to be regarding state enforcement of federal law. See AZ SB1070.


yeah, but they're gonna do a WHOLE lot of damage in the meantime.
 
2012-12-02 01:02:23 PM  

Shadow Blasko: If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.


I don't understand this. If you're talking by volume then the amount of tobacco in one 20-pack of grade A butts is close to an ounce. The average smoker is one pack a day. A pothead will use an ounce every two weeks on average. I'm just not getting how the tobacco rate on pot would be as onerous as the black market cost?
 
2012-12-02 01:03:12 PM  

germ78: AliceBToklasLives: FTA: "Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago."

Yes, CNN, a century ago it would have been unthinkable to see someone drinking on TV.

/FTFY


both statements are accurate
 
2012-12-02 01:04:14 PM  

Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.


Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves
 
2012-12-02 01:06:35 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.

Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves


not only that, but the tobacco industry specifically engineered cigarettes to be as addictive as possible. you won't have that problem with cannabis. damn, I wish I was being a conspiracy theorist here but it still rocks my world some of the shiat the tobacco companies have gotten away with over the years. anyways, point is that cannabis wouldn't be as easily rendered toxic as it was with tobacco.
 
2012-12-02 01:07:32 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves


You do realize that not everyone has a yard, or a closet they can dedicate to being a grow room right?

Some people also seriously can't even grow mold. I mean.. they THINK about plants and a blight forms somewhere nearby.

Rich Cream: I don't understand this.


I'm talking about the concept of "sin taxes" as a stick to use to keep people from doing things.

Been going on for a very long time. If pot buyers think they are not going to have to deal with that type of behavior by state, and even governments, they are in for a rude awakening.
 
2012-12-02 01:10:16 PM  
Shadow Blasko

Crazy Lee: Number of individuals who've expired owing to the use of marijuana, alone? Zilch

Serious question... does that include people who have done stupid shiat when they smoked themselves stupid and gotten killed?


Separating stupid from `drug effects' is difficult. Here, in MO., a small number of idiots are run over, every year, on paved country roads, because they got drunk and went to sleep on the warm asphalt (road kill). I'm working direct dose dependent effects. We know that over ten thousand die every year from OTC NSAIDS. The last person to die in this State, that I can run down, who actually died from some application of Cannabis Sativa L., was a fellow in Callaway County who was swung off into eternity in 1936, from a length of the twisted fibers of the plant itself. State maintains NO stats on DX's directly attributable to marijuana, alone, nor does the HWP maintain stats on accidents attributable to marijuana, alone (though they always lead with `marijuana' and then, as an afterthought, mention alcohol, when reporting on accidents).
 
2012-12-02 01:15:02 PM  

Crazy Lee: I'm working direct dose dependent effects


Ok.

So in that case, a DWI is not an alcohol related death, it is a stupidity related death. (And seriously.. I am OK with calling it that)

If working from that argument, then yes, I would agree with the premise that pot has killed as close to zero people as to be mathematically insignificant with current information.
 
2012-12-02 01:21:01 PM  
"Each of us has a short ride on this earth and as long as we stay in our lane, and don't affect someone else's ride, we should be allowed to drive as we see fit."

-Rob Thomas
 
2012-12-02 01:22:51 PM  

Weaver95: Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences, and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.


The ONLY reason why marijuana has been a gateway drug to heroin or crack is because all of them are now illegal, and when a drug dealer digs out some marijuana from his right pocket he may very well offer you some heroin or crack to try from his left pocket.

I haven't heard of any legal marijuana dispensaries selling heroin or crack on the side, have you? With the legalisation of marijuana it ceases to be a gateway drug, because marijuana will be brought out of the shadows where the drug dealers operate and be given a completely different point of sale from the other drugs.
 
2012-12-02 01:23:05 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves


I can grow tobacco, too, but I prefer the convenience of popping into a store and buying a pack of the pre-made. I can also grow my own tomatoes, yet I prefer to buy them from the store for convenience.

I see what you're saying, but trust me, plenty of people (if not the majority) will end up buying it retail when that day comes.
 
2012-12-02 01:30:27 PM  

Taylor Mental: Ender's: Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences,

*bzzzt*

....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.


*BZZZZZZZZT*

I had coffee this morning. By noon I was chugging down 4 Loco. By the time the sun went down I had hocked my car, lost the house and sold the kids into slavery all for an 8 ball of meth.


You can always make more kids.
 
2012-12-02 01:34:29 PM  
Shadow Blasko

Crazy Lee: I'm working direct dose dependent effects

Ok.

So in that case, a DWI is not an alcohol related death, it is a stupidity related death. (And seriously.. I am OK with calling it that)

If working from that argument, then yes, I would agree with the premise that pot has killed as close to zero people as to be mathematically insignificant with current information.


Any unsafe, driving, for any reason (regardless of cause) is unsafe. Being observed, leaving a bar, stumbling to the car, vomiting on the car, fighting with the keys, and eventually swerving the vehicle into a lampost half-a-block away, is pretty obvious (stupid drunk - easy to id). Marijuana, unless the driver self-reports, e.g., `I smoked up and rear ended the dude' is difficult to determine. However, the NHSA did extensive driving tests in the mid-`90's (minimal impairment - unsafe primarily because they drove too slowly for conditions) and, even with much better testing (and continued lack of self-reporting) and considering that DUI's, overall, for any substance, have been decreasing, marijuana is, at most, a minor contributor (I'd rather be on the road with a thousand potheads than one soccer mom popping prescription xanax with a cellphone in her hand).
 
2012-12-02 01:38:45 PM  
Lost in the debate is that fact that marijuana supply, especially near urban areas, can be tainted with something or another. Sometimes there are added drugs such as angel dust, crack ore even roach spray. This is done to stay competitive versus regular pot.

Legalizing it would avoid this kind of thing, albeit only in certain situations/areas. Even after legalized, there would still be the potential issue of smoking mass-produced pot containing carcinogenic insecticides. It's true marijuana can make people unmotivated, by are their studies to see the quality of the weed they are smoking versus its side effects?

My solution to this situation, (which will never ever happen), is to:
1. Make it legal to buy, but illegal to grow your own
2. Offer the drug lords an opportunity to set up as legitimate corporations
3. Have the U.S. tobacco companies as distributors/co-partners of the legal marijuana product
4. Cut the politicians in on the profit
 
2012-12-02 01:43:32 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.

Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves


Does it hurt to be as stupid as you?
 
2012-12-02 01:51:20 PM  

BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.

Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves

Does it hurt to be as stupid as you?


the hell are you talking about
 
2012-12-02 01:52:52 PM  
I often wonder if there are actually any real proponents of cannabis prohibition left in this sea of trolls.
 
2012-12-02 01:58:42 PM  

ZAZ: Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?

A friend thought he was funny and creative when stoned. He was dull and his writing was awful.


Was he any different when he wasn't stoned?
 
2012-12-02 02:07:22 PM  

LlamaGirl: Marijuana is a gateway to laughter and creativity. Am I going to hell for that?


Laughter and creativity are un-American. Start scowling immediately or I'm going to call Homeland Security on you!
 
2012-12-02 02:13:03 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.

Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves


Very few people make their own liquor.
 
2012-12-02 02:17:15 PM  

ltdanman44: "Each of us has a short ride on this earth and as long as we stay in our lane, and don't affect someone else's ride, we should be allowed to drive as we see fit."

-Rob Thomas


If only more people would go by that, especially the part about not effecting someone elses ride.
 
2012-12-02 02:19:44 PM  

zvoidx: Lost in the debate is that fact that marijuana supply, especially near urban areas, can be tainted with something or another. Sometimes there are added drugs such as angel dust, crack ore even roach spray. This is done to stay competitive versus regular pot.

Legalizing it would avoid this kind of thing, albeit only in certain situations/areas. Even after legalized, there would still be the potential issue of smoking mass-produced pot containing carcinogenic insecticides. It's true marijuana can make people unmotivated, by are their studies to see the quality of the weed they are smoking versus its side effects?

My solution to this situation, (which will never ever happen), is to:
1. Make it legal to buy, but illegal to grow your own
2. Offer the drug lords an opportunity to set up as legitimate corporations
3. Have the U.S. tobacco companies as distributors/co-partners of the legal marijuana product
4. Cut the politicians in on the profit


Lost in the debate is the loss of jobs that legalization would bring.

Judges, prosecutors, defense attorneys, prison guards, court clerks, etc would all be out of jobs.

Prisons have been touted as recession proof job creators for small towns around the country. A vote for legalization is a vote for less jobs. It will never happen unless another series of actions can be made illegal to generate replacement convicts. 

Perhaps copyright infringement could fill the gap??
 
2012-12-02 02:22:43 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: the hell are you talking about


The fact that you have zero concept of why people can't or wouldn't grow their own is proof positive that you are a goddamn moron. Pull your head out of your smug asshole for a minute before commenting on the internet.
 
2012-12-02 02:32:02 PM  

Mr. Carpenter: special20: Snarfangel: This is the sort of hard-hitting "news" that I expect from CNN.

You'd rather rely on "fair and balanced" from Fox? Go for it, non-thinking person.

Because NPR, PBS, and the BBC don't exist? There is only CNN and FOX and NOTHING else whatsoever? Honestly, that has to be the dumbest farking thing I've heard all morning.


Hey, those were YOUR thoughts, not mine.
 
2012-12-02 02:33:25 PM  

HempHead: Lost in the debate is the loss of jobs that legalization would bring.

Judges, prosecutors, defense attorneys, prison guards, court clerks, etc would all be out of jobs.

Prisons have been touted as recession proof job creators for small towns around the country. A vote for legalization is a vote for less jobs. It will never happen unless another series of actions can be made illegal to generate replacement convicts. 

Perhaps copyright infringement could fill the gap??


It wouldn't really bring in any losses of jobs in the law enforcement sector. The reason pot is still illegal at the federal level is because you have senators and representatives that are bought by special interest groups, tobacco and alcohol industry heads, and because it's hard as fark to change federal drug laws in the United States right now when they can't even agree on a budget for 30 days down the road.

Look at the states with legalization or decriminalization. They're not suddenly laying off massive amounts of cops. In reality, most of them are looking hard for qualified applicants because of the massive losses brought on by retirements, and because of the move by large urban cities to incorporate and absorb outlying rural and unincorporated suburban county areas to maximize their tax bases.
 
2012-12-02 02:36:29 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.

Only the dumbest among us wouldn't grow it themselves


Most people can't be bothered to grown their own vegetables, so the taxes would have to be sky high to make it worth most people's time.
 
2012-12-02 02:38:10 PM  

BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: the hell are you talking about

The fact that you have zero concept of why people can't or wouldn't grow their own is proof positive that you are a goddamn moron. Pull your head out of your smug asshole for a minute before commenting on the internet.


Do you need a hug?
 
2012-12-02 02:46:19 PM  

zvoidx: Lost in the debate is that fact that marijuana supply, especially near urban areas, can be tainted with something or another. Sometimes there are added drugs such as angel dust, crack ore even roach spray. This is done to stay competitive versus regular pot.


Yeah, this is bullshiat. The way to be competitive is to have good weed, not to adulterate it. 

Unless you know something I don't about "urban" areas (projects).
 
2012-12-02 02:51:17 PM  

jigger: zvoidx: Lost in the debate is that fact that marijuana supply, especially near urban areas, can be tainted with something or another. Sometimes there are added drugs such as angel dust, crack ore even roach spray. This is done to stay competitive versus regular pot.

Yeah, this is bullshiat. The way to be competitive is to have good weed, not to adulterate it. 

Unless you know something I don't about "urban" areas (projects).


Brown people are poisoning our weed and making white girls give them blowjobs.
 
2012-12-02 02:51:23 PM  
DNRTFA

Are they like the quotation marks that Fox uses when they talk about the "poors" that own refrigerators?

Those quotation marks make me want to punch someone in the face.
 
2012-12-02 02:55:49 PM  

zvoidx: Lost in the debate is that fact that marijuana supply, especially near urban areas, can be tainted with something or another. Sometimes there are added drugs such as angel dust, crack ore even roach spray. This is done to stay competitive versus regular pot.

Legalizing it would avoid this kind of thing, albeit only in certain situations/areas. Even after legalized, there would still be the potential issue of smoking mass-produced pot containing carcinogenic insecticides. It's true marijuana can make people unmotivated, by are their studies to see the quality of the weed they are smoking versus its side effects?


WTF? No. The only cases of "tainted weed" I've heard of are kids doing it themselves by dipping it in solvent or formaldehyde (Coffin Nails), or adding LSD to it. A dealer who purposefully tainted their weed would lose all their customers instantly, and any legitimate medical dispensary would be facing more than just federal drug charges - they'd be made an example of by the DEA, FBI, FDA, and State Regulatory Authorities.

Most of the insecticides and herbicides used today become inactive or break down into their building-block chemicals when they are vaporized or ignited, most of which are not even near as toxic. To be quite frank, smoking weed has slightly less risk carcinogen wise as a home-rolled cigarette, and just as much risk cardiovascular and pulmonary wise.
 
2012-12-02 03:07:13 PM  
Here in Colorado, the introduction of the medical dispenseries has dropped the black market price of weed. It used to be around $350 for an OZ of good stuff. Now it's usually under $250.

No way in hell taxes will make the price "too high".
 
2012-12-02 03:09:48 PM  
I never did understand where this idea of pushers lacing weed with other shiat to stay competitive.

First of all i'd really like to MEET a weed pusher. I've never met the kind of dealer that fits that portrayal.

second, coke etc cost MORE than weed. Why would you lose money that way? And peoe arent going to get hooked, they're going to never buy the weed that smoked like electrical tape again.
 
2012-12-02 03:13:50 PM  
Ending prohibition isn't enough. I intend to be on the forefront of the antihibition backlash.

/farking hibits
 
2012-12-02 03:18:54 PM  

nicoffeine: Brown people are poisoning our weed and making white girls give them blowjobs.


Not to mention
media.fukung.net
 
2012-12-02 03:20:40 PM  
Weed is not taxable to any great degree because growing it and curing it is simple to do. This is evident by the fact that so many people do it. People who argue this point are uninformed. Analogy to other production is irrelevant. Potheads typically love to grow their substance of choice. The authorities were effectively able to take methaqualone out of society when they chose to because the technicalities of that situation were different.
 
2012-12-02 03:24:19 PM  

Weaver95: As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis.


Interesting blog post from the Seattle PD on this. I think you're probably correct.
 
2012-12-02 03:27:46 PM  

signaljammer: Weed is not taxable to any great degree because growing it and curing it is simple to do. This is evident by the fact that so many people do it. People who argue this point are uninformed. Analogy to other production is irrelevant. Potheads typically love to grow their substance of choice. The authorities were effectively able to take methaqualone out of society when they chose to because the technicalities of that situation were different.


Not really, if you're talking about mass recreational use, especially in urban areas.

It's analogous to tobacco taxation and production. You can grow your own in your back yard, or hydroponically if you want, but 90% of people are not going to go through all that trouble, or even want to dedicate the time to it.

Why would Joe Schmo want to do that when he can take his hard earned paycheck at 2200 at night, go down to the local convenience store, show his ID, and buy commercial pot which has a specific quality and THC content that is guaranteed?
 
2012-12-02 03:30:49 PM  

jigger: nicoffeine: Brown people are poisoning our weed and making white girls give them blowjobs.

Not to mention
[media.fukung.net image 500x375]


Where they are going, they need no eyes.
 
2012-12-02 03:32:32 PM  
douchebag/hater:
Will pot smokers face the same violations as drunk drivers?

Under the new Washington law, yes.

In fact, it's based on a "THC level in the bloodstream" kinda standard, rather than an "actual impairment" standard.

I'm hoping that gets overturned the first time someone gets busted for "DUI" for having smoked marijuana five days earlier, but we'll see.

I can count on one hand the number of times I've ever used marijuana, and even I find that appalling.
 
2012-12-02 03:34:44 PM  

Juansmith: Weaver95: As much as the DEA would surely love to arrest everyone in Washington and Colorado, they've got a serious problem here with the legalization efforts. without the help of state and local cops, they can't fight the good fight against cannabis.

Interesting blog post from the Seattle PD on this. I think you're probably correct.


I love the fact that the city of Seattle actually capped their post with a video clip of Gandalf getting high on the Hobbit's super skunk. I love living in an area that has a sense of humor about these things.
 
2012-12-02 03:35:18 PM  

signaljammer: Weed is not taxable to any great degree because growing it and curing it is simple to do.


You could make this argument about any good or service ever.

Just because I'm capable of building a toolshed by myself doesn't mean I always will. And if I hire someone to do it, then I'll pay taxes on that service.

Ditto vegetables that I buy rather than grow myself.

I'm betting the vast majority would buy rather than grow.
 
2012-12-02 03:35:58 PM  

Juansmith: douchebag/hater:
Will pot smokers face the same violations as drunk drivers?

Under the new Washington law, yes.

In fact, it's based on a "THC level in the bloodstream" kinda standard, rather than an "actual impairment" standard.

I'm hoping that gets overturned the first time someone gets busted for "DUI" for having smoked marijuana five days earlier, but we'll see.

I can count on one hand the number of times I've ever used marijuana, and even I find that appalling.


Are there tests out there that measure actual thc content in blood? The tests i am familiar with only measure the inactive metabolites that stick around for a while.
 
2012-12-02 03:45:06 PM  

BronyMedic: signaljammer: Weed is not taxable to any great degree because growing it and curing it is simple to do. This is evident by the fact that so many people do it. People who argue this point are uninformed. Analogy to other production is irrelevant. Potheads typically love to grow their substance of choice. The authorities were effectively able to take methaqualone out of society when they chose to because the technicalities of that situation were different.

Not really, if you're talking about mass recreational use, especially in urban areas.

It's analogous to tobacco taxation and production. You can grow your own in your back yard, or hydroponically if you want, but 90% of people are not going to go through all that trouble, or even want to dedicate the time to it.

Why would Joe Schmo want to do that when he can take his hard earned paycheck at 2200 at night, go down to the local convenience store, show his ID, and buy commercial pot which has a specific quality and THC content that is guaranteed?


Good point. If that product was that easily available and regulated. But I don't think that situation will ever exist, not any time soon anyway. Even here in Colorado, I have no confidence that herb will be commercially available other than medicinally. I think the Feds will eventually challenge and overturn it before any commercial decisions/implementations have been made.

In the meantime, possession is legal right now. Growing your own is legal right now. It will remain this way until the amendment is overturned. I highly doubt that Colorado law enforcement,at any point in the future, is going to pursue personal gardens any more than they do now. So, my prediction for Colorado is that it will eventually be reversed, but possession and personal growth will be somewhat "grandfathered in" from a decrim standpoint.
 
2012-12-02 03:45:46 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: Are there tests out there that measure actual thc content in blood? The tests i am familiar with only measure the inactive metabolites that stick around for a while.


I honestly don't know. I just know that was one of the campaign issues brought up by the odd subset of Washington voters who smoke marijuana and will accept nothing less than full legalization.

I voted for it though - an incremental measure toward the government not wasting money on this any longer is better than nothing.

I'm inclined to say that regardless of the practicality of testing someone's blood for THC content, I'm betting the police really won't bother with it unless they genuinely believe the person to be impaired. And that is a rare position for me. I tend to say "If there's potential for abuse written into the law, it will be abused".

But we'll see. The nice thing about the initiative process in Washington is that this can all be adjusted later if necessary.
 
2012-12-02 03:46:42 PM  
What I meant by "easily available" was the regulated, tested and approved-by-a-state-agency marijuana.
 
2012-12-02 03:47:08 PM  

joonyer: Even here in Colorado, I have no confidence that herb will be commercially available other than medicinally. I think the Feds will eventually challenge and overturn it before any commercial decisions/implementations have been made.


Retail legalization is going to take both an act of congress (literally, they will have to rewrite Controlled Substance Scheduling laws, and federal drug laws through a legislative act), and FDA approval that it's safe for use over the counter since it's being used currently as a medicinal substance.
 
2012-12-02 03:48:11 PM  

BronyMedic: joonyer: Even here in Colorado, I have no confidence that herb will be commercially available other than medicinally. I think the Feds will eventually challenge and overturn it before any commercial decisions/implementations have been made.

Retail legalization is going to take both an act of congress (literally, they will have to rewrite Controlled Substance Scheduling laws, and federal drug laws through a legislative act), and FDA approval that it's safe for use over the counter since it's being used currently as a medicinal substance.


Yup. I totally agree.
 
2012-12-02 05:46:50 PM  

Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: the hell are you talking about

The fact that you have zero concept of why people can't or wouldn't grow their own is proof positive that you are a goddamn moron. Pull your head out of your smug asshole for a minute before commenting on the internet.

Do you need a hug?


I'm good. You need a clue?
 
2012-12-02 05:56:49 PM  

BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: the hell are you talking about

The fact that you have zero concept of why people can't or wouldn't grow their own is proof positive that you are a goddamn moron. Pull your head out of your smug asshole for a minute before commenting on the internet.

Do you need a hug?

I'm good. You need a clue?


Damn, dude. You really need to see someone about your anger issues. PTSD even affects door gunners.

i223.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-02 06:08:41 PM  
CNN is run by speds.
 
2012-12-02 06:32:10 PM  

sno man: ....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

like alcohol?


For me, it was donuts.
 
2012-12-02 06:35:59 PM  

Bonobo62: sno man: ....and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

like alcohol?

For me, it was donuts.


heheh

I'm surprised big junk food hasn't been lobbying for legalization for years...

/cool ranch doritos, here.
 
2012-12-02 07:12:00 PM  

BronyMedic: WTF? No. The only cases of "tainted weed" I've heard of are kids doing it themselves by dipping it in solvent or formaldehyde (Coffin Nails), or adding LSD to it. A dealer who purposefully tainted their weed would lose all their customers instantly, and any legitimate medical dispensary would be facing more than just federal drug charges - they'd be made an example of by the DEA, FBI, FDA, and State Regulatory Authorities.


Why would the add LSD to it and ruin a perfectly good drug?
 
2012-12-02 07:18:53 PM  

BronyMedic: It's analogous to tobacco taxation and production. You can grow your own in your back yard, or hydroponically if you want, but 90% of people are not going to go through all that trouble, or even want to dedicate the time to it.


Not really that hard. Plant the seeds, fertilize and water the plants. Grow more than you need because you have to dump the males after grabbing some pollen to fertilize a bud of the female for seeds next year. Basically a few minutes a week at most.

Uh, advice from a friend...
 
2012-12-02 08:06:12 PM  
www.horrorfilmprops.com
 
2012-12-02 08:43:03 PM  

BronyMedic: BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: BSABSVR: Ebenezer Floppen Slopper: the hell are you talking about

The fact that you have zero concept of why people can't or wouldn't grow their own is proof positive that you are a goddamn moron. Pull your head out of your smug asshole for a minute before commenting on the internet.

Do you need a hug?

I'm good. You need a clue?

Damn, dude. You really need to see someone about your anger issues. PTSD even affects door gunners.


Don't you have a pretend fight to be tough about, captain badass who watches cartoons?

Oh wait. You don't. Pound sand, tool.
 
2012-12-02 08:56:53 PM  

BronyMedic: joonyer: Even here in Colorado, I have no confidence that herb will be commercially available other than medicinally. I think the Feds will eventually challenge and overturn it before any commercial decisions/implementations have been made.

Retail legalization is going to take both an act of congress (literally, they will have to rewrite Controlled Substance Scheduling laws, and federal drug laws through a legislative act), and FDA approval that it's safe for use over the counter since it's being used currently as a medicinal substance.


The FDA could simply move marijuana from a class I schedule I drug to a schedule II drug. It wouldn't require any changes to any laws.
 
2012-12-02 09:52:08 PM  

Do you know the way to Mordor: I haven't heard of any legal marijuana dispensaries selling heroin or crack on the side, have you? With the legalisation of marijuana it ceases to be a gateway drug, because marijuana will be brought out of the shadows where the drug dealers operate and be given a completely different point of sale from the other drugs.


In general pot dealers only sell pot and occasionally some club drugs. The problem with selling coke, speed and heroin is the steady customers for such are generally very dubious people.
 
2012-12-02 11:08:16 PM  

BSABSVR: Don't you have a pretend fight to be tough about, captain badass who watches cartoons?

Oh wait. You don't. Pound sand, tool.


You're right, I don't. I live prime time TV every day.

You, on the other hand....

pptranger.net

denver.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2012-12-02 11:33:33 PM  

BronyMedic: BSABSVR: Don't you have a pretend fight to be tough about, captain badass who watches cartoons?

Oh wait. You don't. Pound sand, tool.

You're right, I don't. I live prime time TV every day.

You, on the other hand....


Ooh. You have pictures of ponies! Nifty!I'm sure you're mother thinks you are neat. How are you different than a fat child, just out of curiosity?

And what, you're an emt-b? fark, boy. Stop playing at your ashollery. Adults are talking.
 
2012-12-03 12:00:54 AM  

BSABSVR: BronyMedic: BSABSVR: Don't you have a pretend fight to be tough about, captain badass who watches cartoons?

Oh wait. You don't. Pound sand, tool.

You're right, I don't. I live prime time TV every day.

You, on the other hand....

Ooh. You have pictures of ponies! Nifty!I'm sure you're mother thinks you are neat. How are you different than a fat child, just out of curiosity?

And what, you're an emt-b? fark, boy. Stop playing at your ashollery. Adults are talking.


In this thread?
 
2012-12-03 01:19:57 AM  
"I smell marijuana" ... it's all a cop has to say to kick down any door without a warrant.
These legalization efforts will be VERY quickly reversed, I guarantee you.
 
2012-12-03 01:23:05 AM  

BSABSVR: Ooh. You have pictures of ponies! Nifty!I'm sure you're mother thinks you are neat. How are you different than a fat child, just out of curiosity?

And what, you're an emt-b? fark, boy. Stop playing at your ashollery. Adults are talking.


u18chan.com
 
2012-12-03 01:23:55 AM  

sno man: In this thread?


I don't think anyone who can't spell a word like "asshole" properly should lecture others on "acting like an adult". YMMV, of course.
 
2012-12-03 01:40:00 AM  

Juansmith: douchebag/hater:
Will pot smokers face the same violations as drunk drivers?

Under the new Washington law, yes.

In fact, it's based on a "THC level in the bloodstream" kinda standard, rather than an "actual impairment" standard.

I'm hoping that gets overturned the first time someone gets busted for "DUI" for having smoked marijuana five days earlier, but we'll see.

I can count on one hand the number of times I've ever used marijuana, and even I find that appalling.


I'd be cool with that if they get the zombie Xanax users off the road.
 
2012-12-03 05:19:29 AM  

Shadow Blasko: insano: A) Who is stopping tobacco use?

Most of your argument to those points was well thought out, except this one.

If pot ends up taxed at the levels tobacco is at, no one will be able to afford it.


Do you actually know what tobacco taxes are?

The Fed taxes $1.01 per pack and states vary, but mine taxes 84 cents per pack. That's a lot for cigarettes, but if that were the tax on 20 joints or even a quarter ounce it would be hardly be noticed compared to today's prices for pot.
 
2012-12-03 07:57:25 AM  

Weaver95: Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences, and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.


dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-12-03 11:56:14 AM  
TFA: Turn on a television show or open a magazine in the United States today and you're bound to see someone with a drink in hand -- something unthinkable nearly a century ago.

Yup, that's some quality sensationalism, right there. Take note of the subtlety of the execution. Weaker minds would have just glossed over it.
 
2012-12-03 03:54:20 PM  

way south: Weaver95: Detractors of marijuana legalization say there are serious health consequences, and argue the drug is often a gateway to more harmful, addictive substances.

those are called 'lies' and people aren't falling for them anymore.

[dl.dropbox.com image 450x288]


durr i'm gonna try pot and NEVER try LSD or crack cocaine
 
2012-12-03 04:04:33 PM  
Besides:
1) Don't we as a society have enough problems with legalized alcohol?
and
2) How do you rectify stopping tobacco use but allowing marijuana use? Both involve inhaling dangerous substances; if you think that pot is as pure as the driven snow with no known risks you're a willful fool.

*************************************************************
And your degree in medicine is from where, WalMart?
 
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