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2012-12-02 11:17:16 AM
The zombies are already here. They're called "Fox News viewers"...
 
2012-12-02 11:20:54 AM
www.politifake.org
 
2012-12-02 11:21:13 AM

swangoatman: got this from somewhere,but forgot where.
Zombies are a metaphor for socialists -- brain-dead, voracious, relentless, completely unproductive and thus desperate to consume other people, individually weak (pitifully weak, actually) and dangerous only when encountered in large numbers, and the only sensible way to deal with them is by smashing in their heads.


"got this from somewhere,but forgot where." How convenient.
 
2012-12-02 11:22:24 AM
BitwiseShift:
Watching the sneer on the gun shop guy's face on TV as he was saying how much gun sales went up tells the whole story. That and his bank account.

Which video? I only got an audio clip at Subby's link (of a guy who knows it's actually funny). All of the video clips I've seen have been of people laughing along with the idea, not laughing at their customers (who also get the joke). I've seen too many "ohmigod those gun nuts are crazy" comments about videos of people poking fun at something to take you at your word on this.

Link?
 
2012-12-02 11:29:25 AM
Tatterdemalian

You lost. Cowboy up, Nancy, and get over it.
 
2012-12-02 11:33:59 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: As for people discussing what loads to use on monsters, anyone remember the 'Can a lightsaber cut through adamantium' thread?


I participated in that thread (under a different login name).
 
2012-12-02 11:34:58 AM
I see the zombie-apocalypse preppers as not so much afraid as just participating in a gigantic leaderless LARP. As long as their intended targets are not (living) people, I have no problem with this.
 
2012-12-02 11:38:31 AM

NFA: Deacon Blue: No, nobody actually believes that zombies are real. It's just fun

Really? Because there are plenty of gun forums where they're discussing how to make home loaded ammunition with things like wooden stakes soaked in holy water to kill vampires, how to make silver ammunition, what loads are best for certain monsters, etc.


...and again, it's all in good fun: a kind of role-playing. I'd much rather have them discuss killing obviously-fictional creatures than actual people.

/doesn't have any guns
 
2012-12-02 11:39:02 AM

3StratMan: Like I said earlier, Romney arguments stopped being valid on November 6. "But Romney", just like "But Bush", means nothing. Obama's in the driver's seat, so it's all still about him, what he's already done, hasn't done, or is going to do.


Jesus, do I stutter? It's not like but-Bush because it's not about Romney, no one's blaming Romney for anything. It's about the NRA and their blind partisanship.
 
2012-12-02 11:42:08 AM

jafiwam: Considering Obama, the head of the democrats has gone on record sympathizing with a low-life thug bent on killing someone over "dissin" him.

It's not surprising people are realizing they'll have to defend themselves.

The Free Stuff Army wants your stuff, and they want it one way or another. When the system breaks down, they'll be looking to take matters into their own hands (more than they already do.)

Zombies are a fun disaster for entertainment purposes, what's going to come out of the cities when the economy collapses is much worse.


And all your guns will be useless against it - a pussy with a gun in his hand is still a pussy.
If you want to survive, hold society together - it's your ONLY hope. Without an organized society to protect you, America's white bourgeoise will last about five minutes.
 
2012-12-02 11:43:25 AM

Mugato: Yeah but you have a to pump a shotgun after every shot. If a horde of fast zombies are coming down on you, you wouldn't get them fast enough. An Uzi, only something that has a bigger magazine would be better.


i gotta imagine something that's semi-automatic, but with stopping power, like the old M1 Garand/Carbine, would be really good.
An Uzi on the other hand, unless you kept it on single shot, would burn through ammo really quickly.
 
2012-12-02 11:45:55 AM

Millennium: I see the zombie-apocalypse preppers as not so much afraid as just participating in a gigantic leaderless LARP. As long as their intended targets are not (living) people, I have no problem with this.


And as long as they hit only their intended targets.
Everybody with a gun thinks they are James Bond or Clint Eastwood.
 
2012-12-02 11:48:14 AM

Abox: Tatterdemalian: liberal policies keep failing

Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security, all failed policies right?


How about this century, like during a time when the GOP wasn't the liberal party?
 
2012-12-02 11:48:42 AM

Begoggle: And as long as they hit only their intended targets.
Everybody with a gun thinks they are James Bond or Clint Eastwood.


According to the documentary The Walking Dead, a 12 year old can become a dead-eye after a couple hours shooting at cans and swinging logs.

/and handguns have no kick
 
2012-12-02 11:52:43 AM

SilentStrider: Mugato: Yeah but you have a to pump a shotgun after every shot. If a horde of fast zombies are coming down on you, you wouldn't get them fast enough. An Uzi, only something that has a bigger magazine would be better.

i gotta imagine something that's semi-automatic, but with stopping power, like the old M1 Garand/Carbine, would be really good.
An Uzi on the other hand, unless you kept it on single shot, would burn through ammo really quickly.


stopping power is a term used to described the effects of rendering living things dead. as a zombie isnt going to 'bleed out' or be impressed by shock inducing systemic trauma, the only thing that really matters is capacity, speed and accuracy. an ar 15 in .22 would be better than one in .223 for a variety of zombie killing reasons
 
2012-12-02 11:52:52 AM

starsrift: "They're defending themselves because they know that even though the police try to do a real good job...when seconds count as they say the police are minutes are away. People have decided 'Hey I can't wait for the cavalry to come to my rescue I've got to defend myself and my family and my home,'" he said.

Don't be an idiot. Criminals don't want to fark with you or your family, they want your 52" TV and laptop and jewelry.

Me, I'm not sure I could live with killing someone for wanting to steal a TV. Imported Chinese electronics just don't matter to me that much, I guess.


Me either, but it's the principle of the thing - it may be crap, but it's MINE. Besides, I don't want anyone close enough to steal my shiat anyway, because then they're too close.
 
2012-12-02 11:54:15 AM
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2012-12-02 12:02:25 PM

R.A.Danny: Abox: Tatterdemalian: liberal policies keep failing

Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security, all failed policies right?

How about this century, like during a time when the GOP wasn't the liberal party?



Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?
 
2012-12-02 12:02:57 PM

tallen702: 1) Fear of a new assault weapons ban without a sunset provision (which wouldn't happen for at least 2 more years due to congressional make-up right now)


As some posts have mentioned upthread, Obama's reelection has been the best thing that has happened to the gun industry in a while. I never understood why gun owners think the industry is necessarily on their side. To the extent they would like to continue to sell us their products, yes they are. But if needlessly raising a panic with "Obama's gonna take your guns" wharrgarbl will send sales through the roof, then that's what they'll do.

2) More and more people have come out of the "guns are evil" mindset and are finding out that going to the range, competitive shooting, and collecting (especially historical weapons) is interesting and fun.

I've gotten some friends hooked on firearms by taking them on a couple of outings. It takes the mystique out of firearms. Once people can separate from their misconceptions about firearms that they've learned from movies/TV/video games, they can learn to appreciate them. For better or worse, I think more people are getting into firearms because of the proliferation of military first-person shooters like "Call of Duty."

3) More people are interested in exercising the rights guaranteed them by the constitution.

That kind of dovetails with your first point.

4) And finally, they're a fantastic investment...

Firearms tend to hold their value very well over time. A buddy of mine sold a Smith & Wesson revolver he inherited from his dad, who bought it in the 70s, for almost 80 percent of what it originally sold back then (adjusting for inflation, of course). And guns are so damn durable, from original Colt SAAs to WWI-era 1911's that still go "bang" when you pull the trigger.
 
2012-12-02 12:03:23 PM
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2012-12-02 12:10:08 PM
Anybody who uses a fear of Zombie as a reason to buy a gun should be banned from owning gun automatically. Crazy people should not have guns.
 
2012-12-02 12:10:52 PM

wildlifer: Nice try comrade
.2/10


Obama's gun record is better than Romney's.
 
2012-12-02 12:15:11 PM

jso2897: It's a common consumption disorder. Gun-fappers who have to go out and buy this gun or that one to feel good are no different than women who have 300 pairs of shoes.


Yup. But don't you dare make fun of their gun lust. They're just prepared.--for the upcoming civil war and complete meltdown of society. Perfectly sensible.
 
2012-12-02 12:17:59 PM

chuckufarlie: Anybody who uses a fear of Zombie as a reason to buy a gun should be banned from owning gun automatically. Crazy people should not have guns.


I think fear of the zombie apocalypse is more rational than the guys who stock up on guns in case the government gets uppity and they have to straighten shiat out. THAT'S crazy.
 
2012-12-02 12:19:42 PM

Abox: R.A.Danny: Abox: Tatterdemalian: liberal policies keep failing

Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security, all failed policies right?

How about this century, like during a time when the GOP wasn't the liberal party?


Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?


The point is the defining of liberal. Some go as far to call eugenics a liberal idea.
 
2012-12-02 12:30:12 PM

Molavian: wildlifer: Nice try comrade
.2/10

Obama's gun record is better than Romney's.


But the rest of his entire body of work is a total failure. You want to know when the economy started circling the drain? It was with the passage of NAFTA. And bubba Clinton did that, not bush.
 
2012-12-02 12:34:26 PM

R.A.Danny: Abox: R.A.Danny: Abox: Tatterdemalian: liberal policies keep failing

Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security, all failed policies right?

How about this century, like during a time when the GOP wasn't the liberal party?


Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?

The point is the defining of liberal. Some go as far to call eugenics a liberal idea.



Ah, goalpost on wheels...got it.
 
2012-12-02 12:38:43 PM

Abox: Ah, goalpost on wheels...got it.


As is the definition of liberal. I'm not looking to argue, just making a point.
 
2012-12-02 12:43:38 PM

wildlifer: But the rest of his entire body of work is a total failure. You want to know when the economy started circling the drain? It was with the passage of NAFTA. And bubba Clinton did that, not bush.


I think you forgot a sentence in between there because those two together make no sense.

But if you're going to blame NAFTA for all our woes (I don't like NAFTA either), Bush was the one with the tax breaks for outsourcing. Bush implemented tax breaks on the rich which not only didn't create jobs but set unemployment to record levels that Obama has slowly been lowering. Bush started two wars that he kept off the books until Obama took office but still managed to turn Clinton's deficit surplus into a record deficit.

But please, b-b-b-but Clinton us while you complain about people b-b-b-but Bushing you.
 
2012-12-02 12:46:55 PM
Please. Look around. You're telling me we don't already live in a zombie-riddled, distopian, post-apocalyptic wasteland??
 
2012-12-02 12:48:29 PM

Subtle_Canary: SilentStrider: Mugato: Yeah but you have a to pump a shotgun after every shot. If a horde of fast zombies are coming down on you, you wouldn't get them fast enough. An Uzi, only something that has a bigger magazine would be better.

i gotta imagine something that's semi-automatic, but with stopping power, like the old M1 Garand/Carbine, would be really good.
An Uzi on the other hand, unless you kept it on single shot, would burn through ammo really quickly.

stopping power is a term used to described the effects of rendering living things dead. as a zombie isnt going to 'bleed out' or be impressed by shock inducing systemic trauma, the only thing that really matters is capacity, speed and accuracy. an ar 15 in .22 would be better than one in .223 for a variety of zombie killing reasons


You're looking for aomething that can reliably penetrate a human skull, wouldn't a .22 have some problems with that, given how small of a round it is?
 
2012-12-02 12:52:53 PM
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2012-12-02 12:55:54 PM
Obama: A gun dealers best friend.
 
2012-12-02 12:57:09 PM

Molavian: wildlifer: Nice try comrade
.2/10

Obama's gun record is better than Romney's.


B-b-b-b-but Romney...the new B-b-b-b-but Bush. Doesn't hold any more water.
 
2012-12-02 12:58:01 PM

wildlifer: Molavian: wildlifer: Nice try comrade
.2/10

Obama's gun record is better than Romney's.

But the rest of his entire body of work is a total failure. You want to know when the economy started circling the drain? It was with the passage of NAFTA. And bubba Clinton did that, not bush.


Dude- you aren't talking to children here - I'm 62, and have seen this country move steadily to the right ever since the Grinning Fool got elected in 1980. All Dino's like Clinto and Obama have done is slow the rightward progress. Fortunately, the boomers are dying and realizing they are on fixed incomes now, and the immigrants are coming - so now, the pendulum will swing back to the left - hard. Stockpile all the guns you want - won't make any difference. Civilization will move on, and leave the trailer trash behind.
 
2012-12-02 12:59:02 PM
This girl at work was asking me a few weeks back what scared me most in the world. The only things I could think of were a) Being somehow immobilized and then abducted and tortured b) Being confronted by an unnaturally giant creature e.g. that huge spider from lotr or a helicopter sized wasp or something. Both of which she dismissed as unrealistic.

After saying this she revealed her biggest fear: zombie attack. And she insisted that her nightmare scenario was possible unlike mine. "You're a pretty big guy, no one is going to try to kidnap you", "There are no giant insects", "Zombie attacks can happen because...."
 
2012-12-02 01:07:08 PM

3StratMan: Molavian: wildlifer: Nice try comrade
.2/10

Obama's gun record is better than Romney's.

B-b-b-b-but Romney...the new B-b-b-b-but Bush. Doesn't hold any more water.


Christ, you do not grasp this concept at all do you? They're talking about the NRA and their backing the wrong candidate. People are canceling their subscriptions to the NRA because of how they put party before gun rights. It has nothing to do with Romney except that they backed the candidate who was worse for gun rights than Obama. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLAMING ROMNEY FOR ANYTHING

Jesus. I'd try to explain this with interpretive dance but I don't have a web camera here.
 
2012-12-02 01:07:20 PM
Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security

Abox:
Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?

...except that some of those weren't "liberal" policies. Most were "Progressive" ideas, and weren't always instituted for the reasons people think. FDR's child labor laws were not so much intended to protect children as to help adults get jobs during the Great Depression. There had been a movement to restrict child labor for quite a few years, but a lot of the reasoning wasn't "protect the child from having to work" but was "if children work long hours, they won't get an education and won't be as productive when they become adult workers."

For that matter, a lot of the labor laws had "get a job suited to your education and social background and stay in it for life" as a background theme.

Progressivism is the real issue - not liberalism. We have very few "liberals" in the modern "Liberal" camp - they're often old-school progressives with a new nickname. Note that "Progressive" doesn't always mean "nice." A lot of the "Progressive ideas" were things like eugenics - which turned out to be favored by a lot of really nasty people over the last century or so, and usually glossed over by the modern tribe of Progs...
 
2012-12-02 01:09:41 PM

R.A.Danny: Abox: Ah, goalpost on wheels...got it.

As is the definition of liberal. I'm not looking to argue, just making a point.



I'm sure Tatterdemalian's comment was an ironic treatise on the dynamics of language and not just 'duurrr...libruls!'.
 
2012-12-02 01:13:44 PM

starsrift: Don't be an idiot. Criminals don't want to fark with you or your family, they want your 52" TV and laptop and jewelry.


They want stuff that's portable and easy to convert into cash and/or drugs, and preferably hard to trace. Hand-held powertools are also very popular.
 
2012-12-02 01:15:30 PM
jso2897:
Dude- you aren't talking to children here - I'm 62, and have seen this country move steadily to the right ever since the Grinning Fool got elected in 1980.

Pardon me, but your bias is showing.

Look at the actual world, not your "everyone is to the right of me politically, and I don't remember shifting" world view. More realistically? You were a hard-core left-winger in the 1960s, and all of your friends were the same. You don't have many right-wing friends (if any at all), and you base all of your perception on that. I know a number of folks just like you: they've been hard-left nuts for thirty or forty years, and got a case of political amnesia along the way - if you advance even a moderately conservative idea ("the Second Amendment protects individual gun ownership"), they lose their freakin' MINDS about how you're an "extremist right-winger."

Look at all of the idiots who called Romney an "extremist Republican." Nope.

/If someone identical to JFK ran for President today, he'd be labeled a "radical right winger" right off the bat...
 
2012-12-02 01:17:18 PM

cirby: Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security

Abox:
Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?

...except that some of those weren't "liberal" policies. Most were "Progressive" ideas, and weren't always instituted for the reasons people think. FDR's child labor laws were not so much intended to protect children as to help adults get jobs during the Great Depression. There had been a movement to restrict child labor for quite a few years, but a lot of the reasoning wasn't "protect the child from having to work" but was "if children work long hours, they won't get an education and won't be as productive when they become adult workers."

For that matter, a lot of the labor laws had "get a job suited to your education and social background and stay in it for life" as a background theme.

Progressivism is the real issue - not liberalism. We have very few "liberals" in the modern "Liberal" camp - they're often old-school progressives with a new nickname. Note that "Progressive" doesn't always mean "nice." A lot of the "Progressive ideas" were things like eugenics - which turned out to be favored by a lot of really nasty people over the last century or so, and usually glossed over by the modern tribe of Progs...



So that's what Tatterdemalian meant by 'liberal policies keep failing'...eugenics?
 
2012-12-02 01:26:15 PM

FlippityFlap: Tatterdemalian

You lost. Cowboy up, Nancy, and get over it.


But the election wasn't faaaaahair!
 
2012-12-02 01:27:36 PM

cirby: Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security

Abox:
Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?

...except that some of those weren't "liberal" policies. Most were "Progressive" ideas, and weren't always instituted for the reasons people think. FDR's child labor laws were not so much intended to protect children as to help adults get jobs during the Great Depression. There had been a movement to restrict child labor for quite a few years, but a lot of the reasoning wasn't "protect the child from having to work" but was "if children work long hours, they won't get an education and won't be as productive when they become adult workers."

For that matter, a lot of the labor laws had "get a job suited to your education and social background and stay in it for life" as a background theme.

Progressivism is the real issue - not liberalism. We have very few "liberals" in the modern "Liberal" camp - they're often old-school progressives with a new nickname. Note that "Progressive" doesn't always mean "nice." A lot of the "Progressive ideas" were things like eugenics - which turned out to be favored by a lot of really nasty people over the last century or so, and usually glossed over by the modern tribe of Progs...


cirby: Child labor laws, slavery abolishment, civil rights, social security

Abox:
Who cares? Liberal policies are liberal policies. Does it matter which party supported them?

...except that some of those weren't "liberal" policies. Most were "Progressive" ideas, and weren't always instituted for the reasons people think. FDR's child labor laws were not so much intended to protect children as to help adults get jobs during the Great Depression. There had been a movement to restrict child labor for quite a few years, but a lot of the reasoning wasn't "protect the child from having to work" but was "if children work long hours, they won't get an education and won't be as productive when they become adult workers."

For that matter, a lot of the labor laws had "get a job suited to your education and social background and stay in it for life" as a background theme.

Progressivism is the real issue - not liberalism. We have very few "liberals" in the modern "Liberal" camp - they're often old-school progressives with a new nickname. Note that "Progressive" doesn't always mean "nice." A lot of the "Progressive ideas" were things like eugenics - which turned out to be favored by a lot of really nasty people over the last century or so, and usually glossed over by the modern tribe of Progs...


Glenn Beck has a Fark handle?
 
2012-12-02 01:30:07 PM

LS1Bird: Glenn Beck has a Fark handle?


I love when people try to use "progressive" as a negative. Then they try to tie it to "eugenics". Because the Nazis, The United Socialist Party. Socialist!
 
2012-12-02 01:31:08 PM
....excuse me, National Socialist party. I knew that didn't sound right when I wrote it. Multitasking.
 
2012-12-02 01:31:19 PM

jafiwam: Considering Obama, the head of the democrats has gone on record sympathizing with a low-life thug bent on killing someone over "dissin" him.

It's not surprising people are realizing they'll have to defend themselves.

The Free Stuff Army wants your stuff, and they want it one way or another. When the system breaks down, they'll be looking to take matters into their own hands (more than they already do.)

Zombies are a fun disaster for entertainment purposes, what's going to come out of the cities when the economy collapses is much worse.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha.....aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a.
Careful, I hear the free stuff army coming for your gold krylon and paper bag.
 
2012-12-02 01:46:40 PM

usbport: Well, let's face it, 'zombies' is an analogy to 'welfare recipients' -- parasites who want to eat your brains and devour your life essence. So, yeah, buying a gun can make a lot of sense when you see what's happening in the news.


Yeah man, shoot those single moms and their babies right in their zombie faces....if they hadn't of been such life sucking drains on society maybe their baby daddy would've been able to stick around to make em a real family.
/you realize a shiat ton of people on welfare are poor white trash that prob hate libruls/socialist/obummer as much as you
 
2012-12-02 01:53:00 PM
I always thought the phrase "zombie apocalypse" was a sort of shorthand for "widespread breakdown in civil order", with the usual social institutions like police, National Guard, etc., being unable to keep the peace, and individual citizens being left to fend for themselves as far as protecting themselves, their loved ones, and their property. Think 1992 L.A. riots, Hurricane Katrina, 1977 NYC blackout, that kind of thing.
 
2012-12-02 01:56:52 PM

3StratMan: Mugato: 3StratMan: Lesser of two evils is more like it. A case of probably being able to work with one, versus no hope at all of any compromise with the other. When the guy you already have has a my way or the highway attitude, time to try somebody else.

How is Romney the lesser of 2 evils? You saw that sign posted above in this thread. All of that is correct. Obama's done nothing of the sort. How is Romney better for gun rights?. That doesn't make sense.

/and how is Romney not a "my way or the highway" guy? Or republicans in general for that matter

Like I said earlier, Romney arguments stopped being valid on November 6. "But Romney", just like "But Bush", means nothing. Obama's in the driver's seat, so it's all still about him, what he's already done, hasn't done, or is going to do.


You do realize that gun rights have expanded under Obama, don't you?
 
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