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(Politics PA)   Pennsylvania Republican State Representative comes out of the closet. Bonus: No scandals involved, just him realizing that he was never going to be able to pray the gay away   (politicspa.com) divider line 183
    More: Spiffy, Pennsylvania Republican State Representative, Representative Fleck, state legislators, Pennsylvania, Centre County, Boy Scouts of America, Liberty University  
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2012-12-02 02:27:18 AM  
Oh yeah, and he's a Liberty University alumnus who used to work for Boy Scouts of America. Dude obviously had a ton of baggage to work through with that kind of background.
 
2012-12-02 02:35:55 AM  
Still supports a party that wants to deny ores like him equal rights and pays lip service to 'keeping government out of people's lives'.
 
2012-12-02 02:49:33 AM  

propasaurus: Still supports a party that wants to deny ores like him equal rights and pays lip service to 'keeping government out of people's lives'.


Give the dude time, he's still finding his way out of a really super fundamentalist background.
 
2012-12-02 03:07:13 AM  
His pic sent my gaydar a whirlin'. Glad he's finally out.
 
2012-12-02 07:44:57 AM  
He's from the depths of the Pennsyltucky part of the state.

Rep. Fleck deserves many kudos for courage, but I can't help but think that some derper from his district will soon be demanding -- in violation of the Constitution said derper will claim to love -- a recall election or Rep. Fleck's immediate resignation because Jesus.
 
2012-12-02 08:08:36 AM  
Welcome to the world Mike. It won't bite.

But the GOP might.
 
2012-12-02 08:40:53 AM  
Why is it that I have never heard of a straight man who had the last name of Fleck?
 
2012-12-02 09:12:29 AM  
"The Republican party is all about the government needing to stay out of people's lives," Fleck said. "I'm not a one-issue person and it's not a one-issue party."

Yes, it's about the government needing to stay out of people's lives ... unless you're gay. Then you're not supposed to be allowed to join the armed forces, marry, adopt children, or have hospital visitation rights with your partner.

There's simply no way to reconcile being both gay AND a member of the Republican party.
 
2012-12-02 09:13:08 AM  
I wonder how all the hate filled legislation he's voted for will stack up with his new found outness. Once you take away the repression, a lot of projection would theoretically also start to become irrelevant. Or will he keep dutifully voting against womens health care, against gays right to marry etc... just to keep holding a job?
 
2012-12-02 09:14:50 AM  
Considering that the republican platform as outlined at their conference this year specifically discriminates against him, I am going to go out on a limb here and just start calling him a democrat.
 
2012-12-02 09:15:15 AM  
He and his wife separated about a year ago; they do not have children.

That had to be awkward.

/At least there's no kids involved in this breakup
 
2012-12-02 09:15:59 AM  
I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.
 
2012-12-02 09:16:27 AM  
great....another log for the cabin. gee, this is going to change everything.
 
2012-12-02 09:16:34 AM  

Generation_D: I wonder how all the hate filled legislation he's voted for will stack up with his new found outness. Once you take away the repression, a lot of projection would theoretically also start to become irrelevant. Or will he keep dutifully voting against womens health care, against gays right to marry etc... just to keep holding a job?


Maybe he'll do the same thing the Republican who came out of the closest here in MO earlier this year did which is basically quit politics and move to Hawaii to study marine biology.

I'd take Hawaii over Missouri any day so I can't blame him there.
 
2012-12-02 09:21:27 AM  

shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.


Do you just live in a fantasy world where "liberals" are like Evil Doctor Worm, ever-plotting?
 
2012-12-02 09:22:35 AM  

shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.


Did this guy sexually harass an underage page as well or something?
 
2012-12-02 09:23:00 AM  
"The Republican party is all about the government needing to stay out of people's lives," Fleck said. "I'm not a one-issue person and it's not a one-issue party." 

Translation: "I'm gay, but if I smile while the right-wingers crap all over my rights then maybe they won't hate me so much."

Good luck with that, idiot.
 
2012-12-02 09:24:39 AM  
Many kudos to him for finding the courage to come out. He has to know what this is going to do to his political career.

Does anyone have any idea if the guy is a good congress-critter or not?
 
2012-12-02 09:24:56 AM  
Kudos for his self-revelation. I'm sure his decision to come out publicly was incredibly difficult given his personal background. I hope he can live a more fulfilling and happy life now that he's leading a more honest life.

And as for the trolls...

shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.


I'm hoping rabid wolves bite your dick off and eat it for breakfast.
 
2012-12-02 09:26:07 AM  
I had just finished reading Cross in the Closet and saw this article. Hopefully people will vote for/against him based upon his record and not due to him "Catching the ghey"

I don't think Christianity is the problem, its the people. Christianity is just one big dinner party God is throwing. He is the one who determines who comes to the party and where people sit not the guests(Matthew 7:1)
 
2012-12-02 09:26:41 AM  

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.

Did this guy sexually harass an underage page as well or something?


Huh? Mark Foley was a Republican?

mediamatters.org

mediamatters.org
 
2012-12-02 09:27:31 AM  
"Ted Martin is Executive Director of Equality Pa., the state's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy organization. He says 'Fleck is now the only openly gay Republican legislator in the nation'..."

Openly gay. There are currently 170 men in the Pennsylvania lower House. My guess is there are at least nine more closet cases residing there; just like there are at least 15 repub US Congressmen in the House and Senate trembling in their boots that they, and their little secret, are going to come out.
 
2012-12-02 09:27:45 AM  
RINO!
 
2012-12-02 09:28:38 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: "The Republican party is all about the government needing to stay out of people's lives," Fleck said. "I'm not a one-issue person and it's not a one-issue party."

Yes, it's about the government needing to stay out of people's lives ... unless you're gay. Then you're not supposed to be allowed to join the armed forces, marry, adopt children, or have hospital visitation rights with your partner.

There's simply no way to reconcile being both gay AND a member of the Republican party.


He's not a southern Republican.

Northern Republicans are a bit different and can be more tolerant.
 
2012-12-02 09:29:19 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: There's simply no way to reconcile being both gay AND a member of the Republican party.


there's really no way to honestly reconcile being a member of the GOP unless you're filthy rich or you're employed by them.
 
2012-12-02 09:29:20 AM  
Why don't we gays ever get credit for this shiat? If you only knew the how much time, effort and money it takes to convert the average adult to homosexuality, given there's only a 63% chance of long-term success on any given person, you'd realize how big a deal this is. The cost alone is why most gays focus on converting children. It literally costs pennies a day to convert a child to homosexuality, where as it can cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to convert a single adult.
 
2012-12-02 09:29:30 AM  
Good luck to him. I think hes probably going to need it.
 
2012-12-02 09:29:31 AM  

clambam: "Ted Martin is Executive Director of Equality Pa., the state's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy organization. He says 'Fleck is now the only openly gay Republican legislator in the nation'..."


Begs to differ:

upload.wikimedia.org

/Zach Wyatt, member of the Missouri House of Representatives (Republican)
//Finishes term in January 2013
 
2012-12-02 09:30:21 AM  
I'm glad you're openly embracing reality, Mr Fleck. On your new path you will discover that the political party you are working for hates you and wants to make your life more difficult. Thankfully, there is another option.

Best wishes.
 
2012-12-02 09:30:44 AM  

cman: LouDobbsAwaaaay: "The Republican party is all about the government needing to stay out of people's lives," Fleck said. "I'm not a one-issue person and it's not a one-issue party."

Yes, it's about the government needing to stay out of people's lives ... unless you're gay. Then you're not supposed to be allowed to join the armed forces, marry, adopt children, or have hospital visitation rights with your partner.

There's simply no way to reconcile being both gay AND a member of the Republican party.

He's not a southern Republican.

Northern Republicans are a bit different and can be more tolerant.


They all take their marching orders from the same nutbags, though, is the deal with that.
 
2012-12-02 09:30:47 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Maybe he'll do the same thing the Republican who came out of the closest here in MO earlier this year did which is basically quit politics and move to Hawaii to study marine biology.

I'd take Hawaii over Missouri any day so I can't blame him there.


Missouri isn't the best place to study marine biology.
 
2012-12-02 09:31:24 AM  
I'm looking forward to the day when all of the rest of the Republicans admit that they too are gay. Maybe once they get past all of that they'll stop being such self-righteous douchbags and actually do some things that get excessive governance out of our lives.
 
2012-12-02 09:34:11 AM  
Somebody needs to do a full investigation into this guys time at the Boy Scouts to see how many young boys he
converted over to his secret and perverse lifestyle. We could have another Catholic Church fiasco on our hands.
 
2012-12-02 09:34:11 AM  
A gay Republican? In Pennsylvania? I call BS. No way that can be true, especially after that state gave us this paragon of Republican manliness.

thediscust.com
 
2012-12-02 09:35:00 AM  

Mentat: Mrtraveler01: Maybe he'll do the same thing the Republican who came out of the closest here in MO earlier this year did which is basically quit politics and move to Hawaii to study marine biology.

I'd take Hawaii over Missouri any day so I can't blame him there.

Missouri isn't the best place to study marine biology.


C'mon, he can study all the catfish in the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers, he can look at all the aquatic wildlife while trying not to get run over by drunk boaters on the Lake of the Ozarks.

The possibilities are endless!

/You have a valid point
 
2012-12-02 09:35:09 AM  

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.

Did this guy sexually harass an underage page as well or something?


Please show me where Foley sexually harassed anyone. I don't recall him being charged except in the liberal media, which doesn't count.

No, Foley was destroyed for being gay and Republican and you know it buddy.
 
2012-12-02 09:36:58 AM  

cman: He's not a southern Republican.

Northern Republicans are a bit different and can be more tolerant.


But if a Northern repub says something tolerant and sensible, he's instantly branded a RINO. The current repub Party does not suffer dissension gladly. People like Olympia Snowe are exceptions, because every vote counts in the Senate, but in the House there are simply no tolerant repubs. They never made it past the vetting process in the general election, and even if one did get into the House, his opinions would be discounted and ignored by his own party.

The repubs are circling the wagons. No one wants to talk to the Indians about a truce.
 
2012-12-02 09:37:19 AM  

clambam: "Ted Martin is Executive Director of Equality Pa., the state's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy organization. He says 'Fleck is now the only openly gay Republican legislator in the nation'..."

Openly gay. There are currently 170 men in the Pennsylvania lower House. My guess is there are at least nine more closet cases residing there; just like there are at least 15 repub US Congressmen in the House and Senate trembling in their boots that they, and their little secret, are going to come out.


That might be an underestimate.
 
2012-12-02 09:38:00 AM  
Back when I was a salesman, Huntingdon was in my sales territory. That's Amish country, and those who aren't Amish around there aren't exactly socially enlightened. I doubt this is going to go over well with his constituents.

Although, I guess courage is rarely rewarded in politics.
 
2012-12-02 09:38:28 AM  

shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.

Did this guy sexually harass an underage page as well or something?

Please show me where Foley sexually harassed anyone. I don't recall him being charged except in the liberal media, which doesn't count.

No, Foley was destroyed for being gay and Republican and you know it buddy.


Is that at all like how Anthony Weiner was not charged with any crimes except for by Fox News?
 
2012-12-02 09:38:41 AM  

shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: I'm hoping that the liberals destroy him for being gay, ala Mark Foley.

Did this guy sexually harass an underage page as well or something?

Please show me where Foley sexually harassed anyone. I don't recall him being charged except in the liberal media, which doesn't count.

No, Foley was destroyed for being gay and Republican and you know it buddy.


Six-term Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) resigned yesterday amid reports that he had sent sexually explicit Internet messages to at least one underage male former page.
 
2012-12-02 09:39:07 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Yes, it's about the government needing to stay out of people's lives ... unless you're gay. Then you're not supposed to be allowed to join the armed forces, marry, adopt children, or have hospital visitation rights with your partner.


Or unless you got pregnant last night. Then the government should stick around for approximately 9 months until you have the child.
 
2012-12-02 09:40:05 AM  

shotglasss: Please show me where Foley sexually harassed anyone.


Maybe he didn't harass anyone. He just sent sexually explicit IM's to underage Congressional pages.

No big right?

Link

/I still remember laughing my ass off at the deadpan way Brian Ross read that transcript on TV
 
2012-12-02 09:41:46 AM  

rynthetyn: propasaurus: Still supports a party that wants to deny ores like him equal rights and pays lip service to 'keeping government out of people's lives'.

Give the dude time, he's still finding his way out of a really super fundamentalist background.


I think a political conversion is somehow more difficult for Republicans. I know a couple that perfectly illustrates this problem.

My husband and I are friends with very a Republican gay couple. They're both socially and fiscally conservative. I asked why would they support a party that condemns their lifestyle and their response was fairly complex. The gay couple didn't understand why any gay person would want the same rights as anyone else despite there being children involved in their relationship. They also feel uncomfortable displaying their relationship in front of the children because they feel like it's unnatural. They'd rather be straight but feel their homosexuality is a curse.

It's pretty ridiculous. We're the only Democrats the couple knows. We're also the only friends that support their relationship. It's sad. They asked if we would attend their Christmas party and bring our friends (Democrats ) because they don't believe their friends would attend.

They continue their allegiance to a group that holds no allegiance for them. And what's truly telling is that they prefer us to their other friends because they feel appreciated and accepted by us. Yet they wouldn't extend that same attitude to other guys.
 
2012-12-02 09:41:54 AM  

cman: He's not a southern Republican.

Northern Republicans are a bit different and can be more tolerant.


Which "Northern Republicans" have embraced equal rights for gays?
 
2012-12-02 09:42:29 AM  

Serious Black: clambam: "Ted Martin is Executive Director of Equality Pa., the state's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy organization. He says 'Fleck is now the only openly gay Republican legislator in the nation'..."

Openly gay. There are currently 170 men in the Pennsylvania lower House. My guess is there are at least nine more closet cases residing there; just like there are at least 15 repub US Congressmen in the House and Senate trembling in their boots that they, and their little secret, are going to come out.

That might be an underestimate.


Only a handful of Tampa hotel employees and male strip club bouncers know for sure.
 
2012-12-02 09:47:33 AM  
Republican...gay...closet.. So he finally fell out of the closet huh


photos.ennvy.com
 
2012-12-02 09:49:16 AM  

Bontesla: rynthetyn: propasaurus: Still supports a party that wants to deny ores like him equal rights and pays lip service to 'keeping government out of people's lives'.

Give the dude time, he's still finding his way out of a really super fundamentalist background.

I think a political conversion is somehow more difficult for Republicans. I know a couple that perfectly illustrates this problem.

My husband and I are friends with very a Republican gay couple. They're both socially and fiscally conservative. I asked why would they support a party that condemns their lifestyle and their response was fairly complex. The gay couple didn't understand why any gay person would want the same rights as anyone else despite there being children involved in their relationship. They also feel uncomfortable displaying their relationship in front of the children because they feel like it's unnatural. They'd rather be straight but feel their homosexuality is a curse.

It's pretty ridiculous. We're the only Democrats the couple knows. We're also the only friends that support their relationship. It's sad. They asked if we would attend their Christmas party and bring our friends (Democrats ) because they don't believe their friends would attend.

They continue their allegiance to a group that holds no allegiance for them. And what's truly telling is that they prefer us to their other friends because they feel appreciated and accepted by us. Yet they wouldn't extend that same attitude to other guys.


That is some seriously seriously screwed up shiat there, son. I feel bad for any kid growing up in that environment. They're going to have ungodly issues to work out in their therapy sessions.
 
2012-12-02 09:50:03 AM  

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Please show me where Foley sexually harassed anyone.

Maybe he didn't harass anyone. He just sent sexually explicit IM's to underage Congressional pages.

No big right?

Link

/I still remember laughing my ass off at the deadpan way Brian Ross read that transcript on TV


Give him a break. Shotglasss wouldn't be a Republican if he didn't need to feel persecuted 24/7.
 
2012-12-02 09:51:11 AM  

LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Please show me where Foley sexually harassed anyone.

Maybe he didn't harass anyone. He just sent sexually explicit IM's to underage Congressional pages.

No big right?

Link

/I still remember laughing my ass off at the deadpan way Brian Ross read that transcript on TV

Give him a break. Shotglasss wouldn't be a Republican if he didn't need to feel persecuted 24/7.


random already fills that role.

Shotglasss needs a new and original shtick.
 
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