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(Lexington Herald Leader)   Guns don't shoot people. Unsupervised 4 year olds shoot people   (kentucky.com) divider line 70
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2012-12-02 05:44:43 AM
So, the second amendment allows me to buy either short or long-sleeved shirts?

Yea, constitutional amendments!
 
2012-12-02 05:44:57 AM

Tobin_Lam: Gyrfalcon: swimming pools also securely locked away

Nobody worries about your neighbor's pool but your kid is far more likely to drown in it than get shot by your other neighbor's gun. People just fixate on gun deaths because they are loud and gruesome events.


I keep a gun by the pool to end the suffering of any drowning neighbour kids.
 
2012-12-02 05:50:32 AM

ronnie spleen: Tobin_Lam: Gyrfalcon: swimming pools also securely locked away

Nobody worries about your neighbor's pool but your kid is far more likely to drown in it than get shot by your other neighbor's gun. People just fixate on gun deaths because they are loud and gruesome events.

I keep a gun by the pool to end the suffering of any drowning neighbour kids.


It's a lifeguard tower, not a deer stand.
 
2012-12-02 05:57:44 AM

Fail in Human Form: ronnie spleen: Tobin_Lam: Gyrfalcon: swimming pools also securely locked away

Nobody worries about your neighbor's pool but your kid is far more likely to drown in it than get shot by your other neighbor's gun. People just fixate on gun deaths because they are loud and gruesome events.

I keep a gun by the pool to end the suffering of any drowning neighbour kids.

It's a lifeguard tower, not a deer stand.


You know who else liked to shoot pool?

i11.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-02 06:01:43 AM

ronnie spleen: Fail in Human Form: ronnie spleen: Tobin_Lam: Gyrfalcon: swimming pools also securely locked away

Nobody worries about your neighbor's pool but your kid is far more likely to drown in it than get shot by your other neighbor's gun. People just fixate on gun deaths because they are loud and gruesome events.

I keep a gun by the pool to end the suffering of any drowning neighbour kids.

It's a lifeguard tower, not a deer stand.

You know who else liked to shoot pool?

[i11.photobucket.com image 400x604]


Niiiiiiiiiiiice. Got any more of that hottie?
 
2012-12-02 07:21:50 AM
So even a two year old can load and fire a gun?
That shows the intelligence level of gun owners.
 
2012-12-02 07:39:49 AM

Fail in Human Form: maxheck: Fail in Human Form:

maxheck: I wish gun owners were a little less wound up about "TEH SECOND AMENDMENT" and a little more responsible about gun ownership.

While I agree with responsible gun ownership, perhaps gun owners would be less "wound up" if the cretins out there would stop trying to use any excuse to disarm the public.

What I don't understand is where the fark people claim that the public is being disarmed.. Can you explain that?

Oh I donno, how about looking in the democratic party's platform regarding the assault weapons ban.

/I'd also like to repeal the Hughes amendment and the import ban while we're at it


Yes, because the 2nd amendment is non-negotiable for each citizen, regardless of how many times a modern weapon's killing power is multiplied, or the mental status of the citizen. See: Aurora CO, Gabby Gifford, etc.

I guess I'm not surprised when conservative in favor of complete gun ownership paint the Second Amendment as being sacred in its most basic wording, I suppose when we can all have handheld fusion cannons they will be truly happy, it was as the founding fathers intended!
 
2012-12-02 07:49:59 AM
While others may fret about the viability of gun regulations, I rest easy knowing this little criminal will be tried as an adult, serving as a deterrent to errant youth everywhere.
 
2012-12-02 08:37:56 AM

enochianwolf: Fail in Human Form: maxheck: Fail in Human Form:

maxheck: I wish gun owners were a little less wound up about "TEH SECOND AMENDMENT" and a little more responsible about gun ownership.

While I agree with responsible gun ownership, perhaps gun owners would be less "wound up" if the cretins out there would stop trying to use any excuse to disarm the public.

What I don't understand is where the fark people claim that the public is being disarmed.. Can you explain that?

Oh I donno, how about looking in the democratic party's platform regarding the assault weapons ban.

/I'd also like to repeal the Hughes amendment and the import ban while we're at it

Yes, because the 2nd amendment is non-negotiable for each citizen, regardless of how many times a modern weapon's killing power is multiplied, or the mental status of the citizen. See: Aurora CO, Gabby Gifford, etc.

I guess I'm not surprised when conservative in favor of complete gun ownership paint the Second Amendment as being sacred in its most basic wording, I suppose when we can all have handheld fusion cannons they will be truly happy, it was as the founding fathers intended!


Great strawman - but that's not what's being argued. The SCOTUS has consistently held that the 2A provides for arms common to the period. Thusly, all firearms would be considered approved. We also argue that no one should have to prove need for something but that the government should have to prove, on an individual basis, lack of capacity to understand the risks inherent to firearms. This does NOT mean banning any specific firearm because it scares someone. It does allow for preventing individuals who've been judged mentally unstable or incapable for separate reasons (i.e., you can't blanketly say "I don't want this person to own a firearm so show they're not capable". Something else would have to trigger the request and it would require an actual medical professional to make the determination on an individual basis, and have a fairly quick appeals period).

Remember, the 2A isn't different than the 1A. When I commit a crime using my 1A rights, I'm punished under the law even though the exact same words might not have been a crime in a different situation. Same with the 2A. I have the right to any firearm out there, but what I do not have is the right to use that firearm in the commission of a crime.
 
2012-12-02 08:39:12 AM

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2012-12-02 03:09:37 AM

Need_MindBleach: I hope they lock up the parents.

To elaborate:

You can have a kid. You can own a gun. But if you have a small child, and you choose to own a gun, you should be serving hard time if that kid somehow gets hurt by that gun. No excuses.

Unless of course
you're a cop

you're a cop

you're a cop

or

you're a cop
 
2012-12-02 09:21:20 AM
"Police said it appears the children were not being supervised, and there may be charges filed in the case."

farking well better be charges filed.
 
2012-12-02 10:35:54 AM
what, too hard to buy one of these?

www.dimensionsinfo.com

/Gun Control means KNOWING WHERE THE fark YOUR GUN IS AND SECURING IT AGAINST MISUSE, DAMMIT.
 
2012-12-02 10:45:45 AM

Penman: ReapTheChaos: But if you cant keep your firearms out of the reach of children you have no business owning one!

The 2nd Amendment gives them the right to own one. Just because it makes you want to tinkle doesn't take that right away.


They just need to be punished severely. The second amendment protects somebody's right to own a gun. It doesn't protect the right to leave it unattended around unsupervised 4 year olds.
 
2012-12-02 10:49:44 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Amos Quito: "A 2-year-old boy was accidentally shot in the arm Saturday night by his male 4-year-old cousin, Lexington police said."


If the 2 year old had been armed, this would have never happened. All our gun laws do is take guns out of the hands of law-abiding 2-year-olds, and then only the 4-year-olds have guns.


That`s fine fine logic there. I think everybody should have a hidden gun at all times so the entire nation is in a constant state of fear from 4 year olds.
 
2012-12-02 11:28:09 AM
 
2012-12-02 01:34:29 PM

Tobin_Lam: Gyrfalcon: swimming pools also securely locked away

Nobody worries about your neighbor's pool but your kid is far more likely to drown in it than get shot by your other neighbor's gun. People just fixate on gun deaths because they are loud and gruesome events.


In most cities pools are monitored. And you are required by law to have fences, gates and locks. I have had the pool police wander by twice in the last three years to verify that somebody's snowflake can't just waltz into the pool. Tango maybe...but no damned waltzing.
 
2012-12-02 01:48:29 PM
Do the parents ever get charged in these situations in the US? In Canada, a handgun must be stored unloaded with a trigger lock in a locked opaque case with the ammunition stored separately. If a situation like this arises here there's all sorts of firearms charges along with child endangerment. Obviously we don't have castle doctrines here so I would guess some of the firearms charges wouldn't at all apply in most states.
 
2012-12-02 02:05:10 PM

Ray Vaughn: Tobin_Lam: Gyrfalcon: swimming pools also securely locked away

Nobody worries about your neighbor's pool but your kid is far more likely to drown in it than get shot by your other neighbor's gun. People just fixate on gun deaths because they are loud and gruesome events.

In most cities pools are monitored. And you are required by law to have fences, gates and locks. I have had the pool police wander by twice in the last three years to verify that somebody's snowflake can't just waltz into the pool. Tango maybe...but no damned waltzing.


Sadly, no such laws here in MI that I know of. I have neighbors with pools that are openly accessible without any sort of fence, gate, or anything. This state also has lots of public beaches without lifeguards, so we at least retain a modicum of expectation of personal responsibility.
 
2012-12-02 09:49:46 PM
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2012-12-02 10:24:49 PM

sat1va: Do the parents ever get charged in these situations in the US?


They do, sometimes. Depending on the municipality, there's generally no distinct legal obligation to store a gun as you describe, but negligent homicide doesn't require that something is legally mandated, just that someone was negligent (where most people would not be) and this resulted in death. Specific firearms charges may or may not be levied (again, depending upon municipality), but negligent homicide is generally available.
 
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