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(ESPN)   San Antonio beats Memphis in the second game of a back-to-back thanks to a strong bench and rested starters. Problem, David Stern?   (scores.espn.go.com) divider line 51
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2012-12-02 12:49:41 AM  
Yes, of course he has a problem. He doesn't give a shiat about a game televised in San Antonio and Memphis who have a collective 50,000 people who were interested in the game.
 
2012-12-02 02:04:15 AM  
David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,
 
2012-12-02 02:07:10 AM  
Stern following the CBA/lockout debacle from last year with this questionable stuff. He's turned his year-and-a-half victory lap to retirement into this lame duck session where most everyone just wants him to go away. The Spurs and Gregg Popovich were the last people he should pick a fight with. We all know he hates them, have always hated them - but blowing a gasket like this?
 
2012-12-02 02:19:23 AM  
David Stern will soon be reduced to a thin red paste.
 
2012-12-02 02:21:20 AM  
It'll be interesting to see how Pop chooses to get back at the league about this because you know he won't let it go. I'm hoping he starts all the guys he wants to rest, calls a timeout 5 seconds into the game, and brings them all out to a standing ovation from his bench and coaches on a job well done. Or he sits all the guys but lists them on the injury report with runny noses.
 
2012-12-02 02:21:56 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Spurs and Gregg Popovich were the last people he should pick a fight with.


Pop, naturally, trolled the front offices. "Oh, you're going to make our 4th game in 5 nights your TNT game? Yeah, I need to rest a few guys. Aw, damn, my scrubs almost beat the defending champions."

Also, and somewhat related, the KGB looks at how the Spurs organization releases news and says "we think that's a bit much".
 
2012-12-02 02:29:51 AM  

Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,


Look. There's bad, then there's Bettman Bad.

Stern's awful, but he's got a ways to go.

And for the record, can I admit, safely, that I like Bud Selig? For simply being nowhere near as bad as the other three?
 
2012-12-02 02:45:03 AM  

TheZorker: Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,

Look. There's bad, then there's Bettman Bad.

Stern's awful, but he's got a ways to go.

And for the record, can I admit, safely, that I like Bud Selig? For simply being nowhere near as bad as the other three?


i so hate to say this but I have to

THIS
 
2012-12-02 02:51:34 AM  

Piizzadude: TheZorker: Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,

Look. There's bad, then there's Bettman Bad.

Stern's awful, but he's got a ways to go.

And for the record, can I admit, safely, that I like Bud Selig? For simply being nowhere near as bad as the other three?

i so hate to say this but I have to

THIS


It really really REALLY hurts to agree with this.

Although as to Bettman, he seems to just be blindly following what the owners tell him to do because otherwise he'd be replaced.

But don't listen to me. I grew up in the same town he used to live in, and his wife was friends with my mom, so I mostly think of Gary Bettman as that man who was nice when I was 8.
 
2012-12-02 02:54:10 AM  

TheZorker: Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,

Look. There's bad, then there's Bettman Bad.

Stern's awful, but he's got a ways to go.

And for the record, can I admit, safely, that I like Bud Selig? For simply being nowhere near as bad as the other three?



You know, you kinda have Stern to thank for Bettman.

Stern has become a caricature of himself. When I play NBA 2K I think I should have the option to kick him right square in the nuts when my player gets drafted.
 
2012-12-02 03:10:41 AM  
I dunno. Bettman just strikes me as utterly incompetent. Stern seems to be outright malicious. Though maybe there's some info on Bettman that I'm unaware of.
 
2012-12-02 03:12:08 AM  
I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife yet?
 
2012-12-02 03:54:36 AM  
Gary Bettman cannot handle labor negotiations. Even if he is just doing what he's told, at some point you have to say "holy crap you guys are stupid this is bad for everyone". And if that gets him fired, hey, it's not like he and his family are going to starve.

Now Stern and Goodell, they outright fark with the day-to-day game stuff of their sport according to their whims. That's bad.
 
2012-12-02 04:17:05 AM  
Still not as asinine a fine as the one the NHL gave to guys who skipped the All Star Game.
 
2012-12-02 04:24:16 AM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Still not as asinine a fine as the one the NHL gave to guys who skipped the All Star Game.


Nope, that was legit. And it wasn't even a fine. They told guys if they were too "injured" to even come to town for the ASG (not actually play), they had to sit for a regular season game. If they were really injured, they wouldn't have played anyway.
 
2012-12-02 05:45:52 AM  
Not really? David Stern could fine San Antonio today again for $250k for no reason at all, and there isn't jack shiat anybody could do about that.

I'd say David Stern is the winner here no matter how you look at it
 
2012-12-02 05:49:48 AM  
As a Spurs fan, I hope Miami gets to see the Spurs in fully rested state in June. But I don't see that happening. And for all you Spurs fans with a persecution complex, don't kid yourself, Stern would love to see that too.
 
2012-12-02 05:49:49 AM  
Tucker Max was at the game.
 
2012-12-02 06:22:56 AM  
Is $250k a lot of money for a team like the Spurs?
 
2012-12-02 06:43:47 AM  
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2012-12-02 08:05:08 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: We all know he hates them, have always hated them - but blowing a gasket like this?

 

you need help, son.
 
2012-12-02 08:10:25 AM  
www.draftdaysuit.com

Curse be upon his moustache!!
 
2012-12-02 08:19:47 AM  

Dafatone: Piizzadude: TheZorker: Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,

Look. There's bad, then there's Bettman Bad.

Stern's awful, but he's got a ways to go.

And for the record, can I admit, safely, that I like Bud Selig? For simply being nowhere near as bad as the other three?

i so hate to say this but I have to

THIS

It really really REALLY hurts to agree with this.

Although as to Bettman, he seems to just be blindly following what the owners tell him to do because otherwise he'd be replaced.

But don't listen to me. I grew up in the same town he used to live in, and his wife was friends with my mom, so I mostly think of Gary Bettman as that man who was nice when I was 8.


I take it none of yall are in Houston or Oakland?

/moreso Oakland than Houston admittedly
 
2012-12-02 08:53:03 AM  

Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,


The Premier League fined Blackpool a few seasons ago for doing the same thing. Link
 
2012-12-02 10:01:30 AM  
fans speak with their dollars.

if we want to can this douchecopter, stop spending.
 
2012-12-02 10:22:40 AM  
Everything you need to know about David Stern and the Spurs

/Pops
//No pun intended
 
2012-12-02 10:23:49 AM  
I have never liked David Stern. He just happened to take over the NBA at the time when Jordan came into the league and Bird and Magic Johnson were coming into their prime. The man is a total asshat. And let's not even get into his irrational hatred for the city of Seattle and unrequited love for the city of Charlotte.
 
2012-12-02 10:49:17 AM  

Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.


Bettman still owns that particular title. At least the League Stern runs is actually playing games, and hasn't yet lost an entire season (Though it probably should have in 1999, that was an awful NBA year)
 
2012-12-02 10:51:48 AM  
Seems to me that MLB printed, right on the ticket, something like "you're paying to see the team, not any individual player." But that was just for fans. I'm sure tv negotiated the right to grip Stern's nuts until the contract is up.
 
2012-12-02 10:53:03 AM  

Ezimar: Everything you need to know about David Stern and the Spurs. 

/Pops
//No pun intended


The city of Phoenix and the 2007 Suns question David stern's alleged hatred of the Spurs,seeing as he basically gave San Antonio that series gift wrapped.
 
2012-12-02 12:03:55 PM  
Leave it to the Spurs to take flopping to the next level.
 
2012-12-02 12:04:08 PM  
So the moral here is that Some Games Are More Important Than Others, and that playing the game to win the championship is secondary to putting a good product on television.

You never hear anyone say "I really want the Giants and the Patriots in the Super Bowl because it would be good for ratings." Why the hell does this bullshiat persist in other sports?
 
2012-12-02 12:23:00 PM  

UNC_Samurai: You never hear anyone say "I really want the Giants and the Patriots in the Super Bowl because it would be good for ratings." Why the hell does this bullshiat persist in other sports?


Other sports aren't the NFL. Other sports decide championships in 7-game series, not in one game on what amounts to a national holiday. The interest in other sports is largely regional, as opposed to the obvious national interest in the NFL.

So it persists because of the reality of those sports.
 
2012-12-02 12:30:00 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: UNC_Samurai: You never hear anyone say "I really want the Giants and the Patriots in the Super Bowl because it would be good for ratings." Why the hell does this bullshiat persist in other sports?

Other sports aren't the NFL. Other sports decide championships in 7-game series, not in one game on what amounts to a national holiday. The interest in other sports is largely regional, as opposed to the obvious national interest in the NFL.

So it persists because of the reality of those sports.


Yep! The nature of football/NFL (one game knock-out rounds) combined with the overwhelming popularity of the NFL and the Super Bowl's place as a major "event" each year (even the commercials are famous) mean that it does not really matter who plays as far as the ratings go.

But that isn't true of NHL, NBA, MLB, etc.
 
2012-12-02 12:34:53 PM  

UNC_Samurai: So the moral here is that Some Games Are More Important Than Others, and that playing the game to win the championship is secondary to putting a good product shiat on television.

You never hear anyone say "I really want the Giants and the Patriots in the Super Bowl because it would be good for ratings." Why the hell does this bullshiat persist in other sports?


Fixed
 
2012-12-02 12:36:09 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-02 12:38:44 PM  
ewinsidetv.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-02 01:46:13 PM  
Ezimar: "Everything you need to know about David Stern and the Spurs."

Jeez, and I thought Mark Cuban was a whiny biatch. My apologies Mark, David Stern makes you look like the prince of professionalism.

LucklessWonder: "...The city of Phoenix and the 2007 Suns question David stern's alleged hatred of the Spurs,seeing as he basically gave San Antonio that series gift wrapped."

I understand the effect of butthurt on rational thought, but the article kinda shoots that theory down.
 
2012-12-02 02:42:17 PM  

Ezimar: Everything you need to know about David Stern and the Spurs.


Wow what a sh*tty biased article. Telling Bowen to stop putting his foot under jump shooters' ankles to try to injure them now is "The Spurs don't forget how the NBA's vice president of operations, Stu Jackson, directly called Bruce Bowen to warn him about how he was playing defense and threaten him with future punishments."

"They don't forget how Stern wanted to infiltrate the inner sanctum of the Spurs with TV cameras and microphones, with the kind of phony, superficial behind-the-scenes access that went against how the franchise conducted its basketball business and kept its edge." - WAAAH the league is one of the best in the world at allowing fans access to players and "in-the-huddle" type things, and we're buttmad because we think we should get to be super-secretive and cost the league money because it benefits us.

I guess they forgot how they were gifted Tim Duncan AND multiple NBA titles. But nah, that's not enough. Need to be a total Spurs homer in the article.

As for this, if you want to rest your starters, rest 'em for the Orlando game, a game you probably could've won easily with just the backups, because the Magic f*cking suck - he pretty much went about this as a f*ck you to Stern for a nationally televised game and Stern said "no, f*ck you" back. It's a lot of money, but you can't have a team holding out virtually their entire starting lineup for your showcase games - it ultimately costs everyone money.

/alternatively, just never show the Spurs on primetime
//but then Spurs fans would cry about that, too
 
2012-12-02 02:45:37 PM  
And BTW, a back-to-back is when you play on consecutive nights, not when you play your only game in a six-day span.

But it's okay because the Spurs are the only team in the league with a lot of old guys.
 
2012-12-02 03:38:18 PM  
Stern is just an awful human being. That said, saying Stern hates the Spurs is much like Laker fans claiming he hates their team because of the Chris Paul deal. They might have gotten screwed but Stern had already helped them win titles before he farked em. You can't say that about Seattle, Charlotte (Hornets), Sacramento, Phoenix, or Dallas.
 
2012-12-02 06:34:39 PM  
mikemoto: I have never liked David Stern. He just happened to take over the NBA at the time when Jordan came into the league and Bird and Magic Johnson were coming into their prime.

This is a silly argument. Yes, Jordan was coming in to the league -- however Stern was also smart enough to change how the league marketed itself to feature stars over teams and base TV deals around those guys. It also requires a person to believe that there were no marketable superstars before the Jordan era, which ignores guys like Bill Russel, Dr J, Wilt, etc. Jordan has also been retired for quite some time now and the league is bigger than its ever been.

Stern might be an asshat or whatever else you want to call him, but he's arguably made the NBA the second biggest league in the country in his tenure. That's no small feat.
 
2012-12-02 06:50:19 PM  

Daniels: however Stern was also smart enough to change how the league marketed itself to feature stars over teams and base TV deals around those guys.


And then they complain because the star players figured out they had leverage and gravitated together on a handful of teams.
 
2012-12-02 07:02:06 PM  

Daniels: however Stern was also smart enough to change how the league marketed itself to feature stars over teams


Was that really that great of an idea? He deserves some credit for making the NBA a big force overseas but marketing stars over teams hurt the league when Jordan left and leads to poorly ratings finals when small market teams make it. He also did so much to make the league seem sketchy, so fark him.
 
2012-12-02 09:44:10 PM  
the Spurs fine was the same as the fine from the Patriots Spygate...i don't think that's right
 
2012-12-03 02:32:11 AM  

IAmRight: Ezimar: Everything you need to know about David Stern and the Spurs.

Wow what a sh*tty biased article. Telling Bowen to stop putting his foot under jump shooters' ankles to try to injure them now is "The Spurs don't forget how the NBA's vice president of operations, Stu Jackson, directly called Bruce Bowen to warn him about how he was playing defense and threaten him with future punishments."

"They don't forget how Stern wanted to infiltrate the inner sanctum of the Spurs with TV cameras and microphones, with the kind of phony, superficial behind-the-scenes access that went against how the franchise conducted its basketball business and kept its edge." - WAAAH the league is one of the best in the world at allowing fans access to players and "in-the-huddle" type things, and we're buttmad because we think we should get to be super-secretive and cost the league money because it benefits us.

I guess they forgot how they were gifted Tim Duncan AND multiple NBA titles. But nah, that's not enough. Need to be a total Spurs homer in the article.

As for this, if you want to rest your starters, rest 'em for the Orlando game, a game you probably could've won easily with just the backups, because the Magic f*cking suck - he pretty much went about this as a f*ck you to Stern for a nationally televised game and Stern said "no, f*ck you" back. It's a lot of money, but you can't have a team holding out virtually their entire starting lineup for your showcase games - it ultimately costs everyone money.

/alternatively, just never show the Spurs on primetime
//but then Spurs fans would cry about that, too


You know you just argued in favor of Pop's position, don't you? Besides the fact that whole thing of Bowen trying to injure other players is bullshiat, it's the refs job to call those things and the league office has the power to make and implement any rule it wants. Hell, it doesn't even need a rule, it can just arbitrarily impose sanctions any time it wants to. Having Jackson attempt to intimidate Bowen instead of speaking with the Spurs' front office was just a dick move, and there's no other way to spin it.

And as long as you mentioned "gifting" and Orlando lets look at how many awesome players they've got from the lottery and subsequently lost. Pops and the Spurs haven't done that, they've kept all their franchise players and made some great moves adding guys like Parker and Ginobili. Which also made the NBA more popular then soccer in some countries.

Your points only prove the point that nobody wanted to watch that game to see the Spurs, they wanted to see Lebron and Co. The sad part is the Spurs bench nearly beat them.
 
2012-12-03 09:28:21 AM  

Taylor Mental: Besides the fact that whole thing of Bowen trying to injure other players is bullshiat, it's the refs job to call those things and the league office has the power to make and implement any rule it wants.


Yeah, when you cause at least two season-ending injuries because of how you "defend" it's not really "bullsh*t". And yeah, refs might call a foul. But when you can end a star's season for a foul, that's not much of a disincentive. Bowen should have been suspended thousands of times and didn't, whether it be for kicking players in the face, kicking them in the back, intentionally kneeing them in the groin, kicking them in the Achilles tendons while they're jumping, putting his foot in their jump-shot landing zone, whatever. Just a dirty piece of sh*t on the court who deserved to at least have someone go Kermit Washington on him.
 
2012-12-03 11:41:39 AM  
You are wrong.
 
2012-12-03 05:53:06 PM  

Dafatone: David Stern is making a strong push for Worst Commissioner. He saw that he was falling behind and realized that he had to redouble his efforts.

/Seriously, in NO OTHER SPORT would this be a problem.
/"Wah you're trying to WIN GAMES." That would sound out of place in baseball, football, or hockey,


Nope, Gary Bettman has that won hands-down.

// Lots of first-place douchebag votes.
 
2012-12-03 11:10:28 PM  

TheJoe03: Stern is just an awful human being. That said, saying Stern hates the Spurs is much like Laker fans claiming he hates their team because of the Chris Paul deal. They might have gotten screwed but Stern had already helped them win titles before he farked em. You can't say that about Seattle, Charlotte (Hornets), Sacramento, Phoenix, or Dallas.


you sound like a Phoenix Suns fan. just let it go.
 
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