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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Lawrence Kasdan won't be writing Star Wars sequels after all; he and Simon Kinberg are writing spinoffs instead. Finally an entire movie about the life of Mara Jade   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 74
    More: Followup, Simon Kinberg, Lawrence Kasdan, Star Wars, Mara Jade, THR, Skywalker, Michael Arndt  
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2012-12-01 02:39:58 PM
This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.
 
2012-12-01 04:04:50 PM

naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.


Vader: From Space Jesus to oft-mocked thug.
 
2012-12-01 04:54:21 PM

naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.


I would really like to see a movie made out of Shadows of the Empire.
 
2012-12-01 05:08:28 PM
There's your Mara Jade. Book it, done.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-01 05:12:34 PM
No. No Mara Jade.

No EU.

Do new material.
 
2012-12-01 05:14:33 PM

Darth_Lukecash: No. No Mara Jade.

No EU.

Do new material.


I actually agree with that, the EU is terrible. But if there were to be a Mara Jade, the chick from The Mentalist would be it.
 
2012-12-01 06:31:04 PM

Mugato: Darth_Lukecash: No. No Mara Jade.

No EU.

Do new material.

I actually agree with that, the EU is terrible. But if there were to be a Mara Jade, the chick from The Mentalist would be it.


Most of it would be. But Thrawn would be badass if done right. You'd need the right actor though.

And assuming no conflicts with the Marvel Universe on commitments, I'd say the most likely pick for Mara would be Johansson.
 
2012-12-01 06:47:57 PM
Former Star Wars nerd (1999 killed it for me, but read all the books until that point). I like the notion that they pick & choose any good ideas that may exist from the EU but ignore the continuity and whatever they don't like. For example Zahn coming up with Coruscant and Lucas using it, without necessarily meaning that anything else from that trilogy was movie cannon. Etc.

/didn't Mara Jade "cameo" as an extra in one of the films, either a Special Edition or in the background of a prequel somewhere?
 
2012-12-01 07:10:36 PM

Darth_Lukecash: No. No Mara Jade.

No EU.

Do new material.



Does the Zahn trilogy really count as EU, though? That's more of a post-prequels franchising problem.
 
2012-12-01 07:42:56 PM
Marvel likes comic movies, right?

How about Rogue Squadron?
 
2012-12-01 07:50:32 PM
thr3.pgmcdn.net

Tha fark??
 
2012-12-01 07:52:08 PM
Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.
 
2012-12-01 08:02:17 PM
She would have made an awesome Mara Jade:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-01 08:04:31 PM
i want it all
 
2012-12-01 08:07:41 PM

carnifex2005: Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.


While I agree with your sentiment, you do have to start somewhere to build this new generation of Star Wars. Mara is a decent character with an interesting enough background (trained by the Emperor from childhood as a Hand, potentially to replace Vader once he was no longer useful). And she gives Luke a love interest, so she's directly connected to the cast most people know.

The same would apply for the various children of the main cast - Ben for Luke, Jacen and Jaina for Han and Leia (let's...let's just leave Anakin Solo dead, ok?). In fact, having Jacen fall to the darkside as he did in the novels would be one hell of a good story, especially as his parents realize their child has become the very evil they fought so hard to stop.

There's plenty of the rest of the EU you can clearly chuck into the wastebin. Even popular characters like Corran Horn could be dumped because he has no direct hook to the three main characters. Most of the story line post RotJ could be dumped or reshaped. You could even drop Thrawn, though you will need a compelling new villain for this setting, and a genius military commander isn't a bad idea.

My point is, there are certain elements of the EU which readily lend themselves to being brought to the big screen. They don't have to be exactly what they are in the novels or comics - The Avengers are not exactly like their comics counterparts and no one really complains except overzealous fanboys. But there's plenty of good material that could be used. You just have to separate out the wheat from the chaff (and there is a shiatload of chaff in the EU).
 
2012-12-01 08:11:52 PM

TheZorker: Marvel likes comic movies, right?

How about Rogue Squadron?


Way up for this actually. I have a soft spot for the Wraiths.
 
2012-12-01 08:12:51 PM

naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.


I read the "they're going to bring back Vader" as about as true as the news that "Leonardo DiCaprio will be playing Anakin in the prequels." Yeah, he did real good, didn't he? There was also buzz that Han would be in Episode 2 and 3 - did not happen, obviously - and that Sam Jackson's character (Mace Windu) was really a sith lord in disguise and was Palpatine's master. That rumor started because of lightsaber prop in a promo photo!

I'm pretty sure most of the braindead Hollywood journalists will see any bad guy with a red lightsaber and label him Darth Vader. Hell, they confused Darth Malgus from The Old Republic with Vader several times.
 
2012-12-01 08:14:17 PM

GAT_00: And assuming no conflicts with the Marvel Universe on commitments, I'd say the most likely pick for Mara would be Johansson.


Amanda Righetti is hotter than Scarlett, IMO, even though she has smaller boobies.

/that's she actually showed in movies, unlike Scarlett
//not that would matter in a SW movie
 
2012-12-01 08:16:08 PM
Does this mean I finally get to see the life of Porkins unfold upon the silver screen?
 
2012-12-01 08:24:27 PM

Adan: TheZorker: Marvel likes comic movies, right?

How about Rogue Squadron?

Way up for this actually. I have a soft spot for the Wraiths.


Those books are fantastic light reads. It's like Star Wars Bond.
 
2012-12-01 08:31:23 PM

Gordon Bennett: Does this mean I finally get to see the life of Porkins unfold upon the silver screen?


Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please...
 
2012-12-01 08:32:07 PM

Gordon Bennett: Does this mean I finally get to see the life of Porkins unfold upon the silver screen?


Star Wars Episode 3.5: The Rise of Jekk Porkins
Star Wars Episode 4.5: The Secret Passion of Jekk Porkins
Star Wars Episode 5.5: Revenge of the Son of Jekk Porkins
Star Wars Episode 6.5: The Return of Jekk Porkins
 
2012-12-01 08:47:46 PM

carnifex2005: Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.


Partly true.

The MAIN thing I like about Star Wars is the 'Force.' The concept and ideas and stories that revolve around the dynamics of the Force and how it relates to individuals who can use and understand the Force. This includes beings who had the most powerful capabilities in manipulating the Force.

I don't want to see 6 more movies about Boba Fett and some gangsters.
 
2012-12-01 08:51:26 PM

Indolent: naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.

I would really like to see a movie made out of Shadows of the Empire.


i'm okay with this.
 
2012-12-01 09:18:44 PM

naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.


HEY EVERYONE WE HAVE LUCAS' FARK HANDLE!!!


look, whatever it ends up being (see 'total shiat') , it won't be what any of you want it to be...

yet you will still line up in your Obi Wan Bathrobe starting three days before tickets go on sale...

I remember back in '79 where it was "all about Boba Fett and the clone wars!" and we got Empire...the best of the films to date.

then you got Ewoks, Jar Jar and Jake and the rest of the abortion that is the Star Wars Failchise.

it's nerdporn for people who just ain't very bright. That's why it was successful.
 
2012-12-01 09:24:31 PM

FreakyBunny: She would have made an awesome Mara Jade:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 573x394]


Michelle Forbes. Damn, that is a good pick.
 
2012-12-01 09:37:59 PM

carnifex2005: Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.


Um. No. The majority of Star Wars fans - you know the ones who today watch Clone Wars on Cartoon Network and buy action figures today at Toys R Us - weren't born when RoTJ was in the cinemas. Disney didn't spend a couple of billion to cater to a bunch of dyspeptic nerds who find the Red Letter Media commentaries funny and insightful.

They brought it because "Star Wars" is like Barbie - it's a product that works and keeps working with a precise demographic - one that Disney didn't have a handle on - tween boys.

I have a 10 year old and I've been to a few Star Wars themed parties - and the kids are all about Obi Wan, Anakin, Ashoka, Rex, Cody, Mace and Yoda. Luke doesn't even come up on the radar. Neither do Han or Chewie.

Disney are going to make their investment back by staying on target with the Star Wars demographic. Just like My Little Pony isn't about selling stuff to middle aged Linux nerds, neither is Star Wars.
 
2012-12-01 09:43:18 PM

Dr. Whoof: carnifex2005: Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.

While I agree with your sentiment, you do have to start somewhere to build this new generation of Star Wars. Mara is a decent character with an interesting enough background (trained by the Emperor from childhood as a Hand, potentially to replace Vader once he was no longer useful). And she gives Luke a love interest, so she's directly connected to the cast most people know.

The same would apply for the various children of the main cast - Ben for Luke, Jacen and Jaina for Han and Leia (let's...let's just leave Anakin Solo dead, ok?). In fact, having Jacen fall to the darkside as he did in the novels would be one hell of a good story, especially as his parents realize their child has become the very evil they fought so hard to stop.

There's plenty of the rest of the EU you can clearly chuck into the wastebin. Even popular characters like Corran Horn could be dumped because he has no direct hook to the three main characters. Most of the story line post RotJ could be dumped or reshaped. You could even drop Thrawn, though you will need a compelling new villain for this setting, and a genius military commander isn't a bad idea.

My point is, there are certain elements of the EU which readily lend themselves to being brought to the big screen. They don't have to be exactly what they are in the novels or comics - The Avengers are not exactly like their comics counterparts and no one really complains except overzealous fanboys. But there's plenty of good material that could be used. You just have to separate out the wheat from the chaff (and there is a shiatload of chaff in the EU).


I have to respectfully disagree with the Corran Horn bit. To me, he was a much more compelling character than Luke. I think "I, Jedi" would make a great movie.
 
2012-12-01 09:43:41 PM
Anything with an episode number should focus on the Skywalker family.

I'm all for some side movies though telling other stories in the universe.

I hope Disney still follows through on the live action TV series.
 
2012-12-01 09:50:32 PM
No Ralph McQuarrie. Fail.

/RIP, you brilliant artist
 
2012-12-01 09:52:44 PM

Jgok: Dr. Whoof: carnifex2005: Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.

While I agree with your sentiment, you do have to start somewhere to build this new generation of Star Wars. Mara is a decent character with an interesting enough background (trained by the Emperor from childhood as a Hand, potentially to replace Vader once he was no longer useful). And she gives Luke a love interest, so she's directly connected to the cast most people know.

The same would apply for the various children of the main cast - Ben for Luke, Jacen and Jaina for Han and Leia (let's...let's just leave Anakin Solo dead, ok?). In fact, having Jacen fall to the darkside as he did in the novels would be one hell of a good story, especially as his parents realize their child has become the very evil they fought so hard to stop.

There's plenty of the rest of the EU you can clearly chuck into the wastebin. Even popular characters like Corran Horn could be dumped because he has no direct hook to the three main characters. Most of the story line post RotJ could be dumped or reshaped. You could even drop Thrawn, though you will need a compelling new villain for this setting, and a genius military commander isn't a bad idea.

My point is, there are certain elements of the EU which readily lend themselves to being brought to the big screen. They don't have to be exactly what they are in the novels or comics - The Avengers are not exactly like their comics counterparts and no one really complains except overzealous fanboys. But there's plenty of good material that could be used. You just have to separate out the wheat from the chaff (and there is a shiatload of chaff in the EU).

I have to respectfully disagree with the Corran Horn bit. To me, he was a much more compelling character than Luke. I think "I, Jedi" would make a great movie.


Truth.
 
2012-12-01 10:14:46 PM

knoxvelour: Anything with an episode number should focus on the Skywalker family.

I'm all for some side movies though telling other stories in the universe.

I hope Disney still follows through on the live action TV series.


I've always thought Wraith Squadron would work extremely well as a TV series. The characters have the right mix of underdogs, humor, competence, and pathos. Also, they aren't afraid to kill off characters like Rouge squadron is. It focuses more on the landslide missions, so I wouldn't be space battle after dogfight, although if hey did it like BSG, it would be ok for the few times it is required. Each of e novels would translate just about perfectly with a season.

In m head it's a lot like the show Leverage, just higher stakes and with a SW theme.
 
2012-12-01 10:15:17 PM

Haliburton Cummings: naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.

HEY EVERYONE WE HAVE LUCAS' FARK HANDLE!!!

look, whatever it ends up being (see 'total shiat') , it won't be what any of you want it to be...

yet you will still line up in your Obi Wan Bathrobe starting three days before tickets go on sale...

I remember back in '79 where it was "all about Boba Fett and the clone wars!" and we got Empire...the best of the films to date.

then you got Ewoks, Jar Jar and Jake and the rest of the abortion that is the Star Wars Failchise.

it's nerdporn for people who just ain't very bright. That's why it was successful.


I want it to be the animated adventures of ackbar and porkins.
 
2012-12-01 10:17:53 PM

Haliburton Cummings: naughtyrev: This is how they're going to be able to bring back Vader - they can do movies about other things he did between 3 & 4.

HEY EVERYONE WE HAVE LUCAS' FARK HANDLE!!!

look, whatever it ends up being (see 'total shiat') , it won't be what any of you want it to be...

yet you will still line up in your Obi Wan Bathrobe starting three days before tickets go on sale...

I remember back in '79 where it was "all about Boba Fett and the clone wars!" and we got Empire...the best of the films to date.

then you got Ewoks, Jar Jar and Jake and the rest of the abortion that is the Star Wars Failchise.

it's nerdporn for people who just ain't very bright. That's why it was successful.


Oh, and for clarity, my comment was about how Disney wont give up the Vader character ever now that they own it.
 
2012-12-01 10:25:49 PM
We MUST get a Boba Fett movie.
 
2012-12-01 10:26:43 PM

DrowningLessons: Former Star Wars nerd (1999 killed it for me, but read all the books until that point). I like the notion that they pick & choose any good ideas that may exist from the EU but ignore the continuity and whatever they don't like. For example Zahn coming up with Coruscant and Lucas using it, without necessarily meaning that anything else from that trilogy was movie cannon. Etc.

/didn't Mara Jade "cameo" as an extra in one of the films, either a Special Edition or in the background of a prequel somewhere?


She "cameoed" as Arica in the NPR "Return of the Jedi" adaptation. She has a little conversation with Threepio in Jabba's palace. She was asking about Skywalker.
 
2012-12-01 10:33:27 PM
Though when I first read Heir to the Empire, I tried to "cast" the book with current actors at the time. Talon Kardde I had pictured as Matt McCoy from "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle." When the comics came out and they gave him that biker look, I went with Stuart Wilson from "No Escape."

For Thrawn... and a lot of my sci-fi loving friends gave me a WTF look (but it could have worked) I imagined Leonard Nimoy. To this day I can't picture anyone else.
 
2012-12-01 10:52:33 PM
If the Empire couldn't defeat Luke, what chance does a remnant of the Empire have? Fark the EU.
 
2012-12-01 11:00:01 PM

narkor: carnifex2005: Who? 99% of Star Wars movie watchers give no shiat about anything else other than Luke, Han and Leia.

Um. No. The majority of Star Wars fans - you know the ones who today watch Clone Wars on Cartoon Network and buy action figures today at Toys R Us - weren't born when RoTJ was in the cinemas. Disney didn't spend a couple of billion to cater to a bunch of dyspeptic nerds who find the Red Letter Media commentaries funny and insightful.

They brought it because "Star Wars" is like Barbie - it's a product that works and keeps working with a precise demographic - one that Disney didn't have a handle on - tween boys.

I have a 10 year old and I've been to a few Star Wars themed parties - and the kids are all about Obi Wan, Anakin, Ashoka, Rex, Cody, Mace and Yoda. Luke doesn't even come up on the radar. Neither do Han or Chewie.

Disney are going to make their investment back by staying on target with the Star Wars demographic. Just like My Little Pony isn't about selling stuff to middle aged Linux nerds, neither is Star Wars.


I was one of those fans born in 77 and I sure would like to see that whole big galaxy beyond the Skywalkers and characters from the original trilogy making cameos.
 
2012-12-02 12:03:09 AM

FreakyBunny: She would have made an awesome Mara Jade:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 573x394]


Or an evil Imperial admiral:
www.webomatica.com
 
2012-12-02 12:55:17 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Though when I first read Heir to the Empire, I tried to "cast" the book with current actors at the time. Talon Kardde I had pictured as Matt McCoy from "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle." When the comics came out and they gave him that biker look, I went with Stuart Wilson from "No Escape."

For Thrawn... and a lot of my sci-fi loving friends gave me a WTF look (but it could have worked) I imagined Leonard Nimoy. To this day I can't picture anyone else.


Nimoy makes sense. David Warner would have been another excellent choice at the time. Ciaran Hinds would be on my short list now for Thrawn. Or James Frain might be an option.

Matt McCoy would have been younger at that time compared to my vision of Karrde. I can't remember who I picked, but it was someone much older. But going back to a younger Karrde with current actors... Jeffrey Dean Morgan maybe?
 
2012-12-02 01:33:03 AM

narkor: I have a 10 year old and I've been to a few Star Wars themed parties - and the kids are all about Obi Wan, Anakin, Ashoka, Rex, Cody, Mace and Yoda. Luke doesn't even come up on the radar. Neither do Han or Chewie.


They are all pretty badass in Clone Wars, aren't they? Luke will always be whiney.
 
2012-12-02 01:57:37 AM

narkor: I have a 10 year old and I've been to a few Star Wars themed parties - and the kids are all about Obi Wan, Anakin, Ashoka, Rex, Cody, Mace and Yoda. Luke doesn't even come up on the radar. Neither do Han or Chewie.


Sounds like a bunch of horrible children... No Han? No Chewie? No Luke?

/shudders for humanity
//I keed for the horrible children comment
///You should have taught them better
////Bops Narkor's nose with a newspaper, 'bad!'
 
2012-12-02 02:08:11 AM
'I, Jedi' is a great read, but it built on a lot of earlier books, so I can't see it as a movie. Too much backstory left out.

Leonard Nimoy as Thrawn? Hmm, perhaps something of the right build.. but I have a hard time imagining him with the right amount of controlled menace in his voice. The only other villain role I can think of that he's done was Galvatron in the animated Transformers movie.
 
2012-12-02 02:24:32 AM

Alphax: Leonard Nimoy as Thrawn? Hmm, perhaps something of the right build.. but I have a hard time imagining him with the right amount of controlled menace in his voice.


Nah, you gotta think more current. Like Liam Neeson.

"Mr. Skywalker, I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for freedom, I can tell you I don't have liberty to give. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you surrender now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you."

/scene
 
2012-12-02 02:28:03 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Alphax: Leonard Nimoy as Thrawn? Hmm, perhaps something of the right build.. but I have a hard time imagining him with the right amount of controlled menace in his voice.

Nah, you gotta think more current. Like Liam Neeson.

"Mr. Skywalker, I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for freedom, I can tell you I don't have liberty to give. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you surrender now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you."

/scene


In the case of Grand Admiral Thrawn: "Mr. Skywalker, I know exactly who you are, what you want, and what you are thinking right now.."
 
2012-12-02 02:30:51 AM

Alphax: Representative of the unwashed masses: Alphax: Leonard Nimoy as Thrawn? Hmm, perhaps something of the right build.. but I have a hard time imagining him with the right amount of controlled menace in his voice.

Nah, you gotta think more current. Like Liam Neeson.

"Mr. Skywalker, I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for freedom, I can tell you I don't have liberty to give. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you surrender now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you."

/scene

In the case of Grand Admiral Thrawn: "Mr. Skywalker, I know exactly who you are, what you want, and what you are thinking right now.."


I stand corrected but it would make for a pretty awesome scene still!
 
2012-12-02 05:23:44 AM

Alphax: 'I, Jedi' is a great read, but it built on a lot of earlier books, so I can't see it as a movie. Too much backstory left out.

Leonard Nimoy as Thrawn? Hmm, perhaps something of the right build.. but I have a hard time imagining him with the right amount of controlled menace in his voice. The only other villain role I can think of that he's done was Galvatron in the animated Transformers movie.


At the start of I, Jedi, what did we know about Corran Horn? The only times he'd appeared prior to that were in the X-wing books (which I do think would make a decent animated series), and in those he had little to no Force ability. I, Jedi told more of his back story than the X-wing series did, and most of the Rogue Squadron background isn't necessary to the I, Jedi story.

Start off in the middle of a space battle against some Invid forces. The Alakatha ambush would work well. Throw in some chatter about Tavira's uncanny ability to avoid ambushes, to set the tone for for the later scenes. During the fight, Horn pulls off a few amazing maneuvers, and gets a Force-supplied hunch that saves the Rogues. On the way back, have some back-slapping camaraderie/reminiscing and a brief flashback about the "kids" argument with Mirax. Now the audience knows everything they need to know, in less than 10 minutes.

The only other bit of necessary back story is the antagonism between Corran and Booster. That's actually covered by the dialog in the book, both when Corran and Wedge are talking, and when Corran meets Booster on board the Errant Venture.

As for Thrawn, go with "newSpock", Zachary Quinto. He did some good menacing in Heroes, and I think he could pull off Thrawn. Personally, I don't like the clones or the force-eating tree rats, but the rest of that series was good.
 
2012-12-02 05:57:01 AM
I still say a Han Solo animated series from Bruce Timm and Paul Dini would rock.
 
2012-12-02 05:59:05 AM

Mugato: There's your Mara Jade. Book it, done.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x300]


Stop the press... who's that?

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