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(Chron)   Protip: If you are a kindergarten teacher and you lock a 5-year-old boy in a small, dark room alone for punishment, please don't forget you did so   (chron.com) divider line 74
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2012-12-01 04:33:40 PM  
If teachers could still properly punish kids, things like this wouldn't happen. The nun who taught my kindergarten class used to make us write apology letters to Jesus when we misbehaved, explaining to him that we thoughtlessly threw away his gift of eternal life in heaven for an eternity in hell because we couldn't get our shiat together. If you are going to punish a kid, you have to completely destroy his psyche, otherwise the lesson doesn't stick.
 
2012-12-01 04:52:46 PM  
msp.westwood.wikispaces.net

/Hot and sad like tears.
 
2012-12-01 05:03:32 PM  
That father is way overly reasonable.
 
2012-12-01 05:52:35 PM  
FTFA: "You know just think about that," he added. "A 5-year-old boy."

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"Is it getting hot in here?"
 
2012-12-01 06:20:42 PM  
So the parents took turns beating the shiat out of the teacher, right?
 
2012-12-01 06:40:37 PM  
What's a protip? Is it Polish for something?
 
2012-12-01 06:42:34 PM  
So, is it "pro tip" or "protip"?
 
2012-12-01 06:47:25 PM  
For some inexplicable reason referring to this as a "protip" ignites my pedophile-detector...
 
2012-12-01 06:47:32 PM  

Lsherm: If teachers could still properly punish kids, things like this wouldn't happen.


If teachers acted like professionals, things like this wouldn't happen.
 
2012-12-01 06:47:36 PM  
That's three "if you" head lines in a row, for those playing along at home.
 
2012-12-01 06:49:09 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: So, is it "pro tip" or "protip"?


Pro tip - advice or inside knowledge from an expert
Protip - the line in the center of the cursor on a slide ruler
 
2012-12-01 06:49:23 PM  
"Better behave, Timmy, or you'll get the padded room again."

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"The last thing we ever want to do is lose a child,"

This made me laugh, but I'm not sure why.
 
2012-12-01 06:50:33 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: So, is it "pro tip" or "protip"?


I'd "Pro-tip" or "Pro tip" if I was feeling grammatical.
 
2012-12-01 06:51:51 PM  
And the Phalanx of Attorneys in 3...2...action.
 
2012-12-01 06:54:03 PM  
"I'm not saying I want to get her fired. I don't want to ruin her career"

Why not? She has no business working with children.
 
2012-12-01 06:54:18 PM  
District Superintendent Tim Rosandick

Somehow, that seems a very appropriate name for a school superintendent.
 
2012-12-01 06:56:01 PM  
Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.
 
2012-12-01 07:00:08 PM  
"I'm not saying I want to get her fired. I don't want to ruin her career"

Jesus Christ. I wonder if the father and the mother are on the same menstrual cycle.

It's your kid and the teacher locked him in a closet. If you're not going the violence route at least get the teacher fired.
 
2012-12-01 07:07:06 PM  
They don't stick kids in those rooms for being violent. They stick them in the rooms as degradation-based punishment, and tell the parent they were acting out, which is technically true as the confinement is often accompanied by forcible physical restraint, to further degrade, humiliate and dominate the child, which of course they resist(this counts as "acting out.") This and other behavior modification techniques and psychological abuse modeled after the treatment of convicted felons in prisons are used to try and "beat the autism out" of kids. This is regular practice in any US school with a "special education" department. First hand experience.
 
2012-12-01 07:09:03 PM  
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2012-12-01 07:12:03 PM  

picturescrazy: Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.


Yeah, something is definitely wrong here. Either the teachers or (more likely) the aides need some IQ testing of their own.
 
2012-12-01 07:12:09 PM  

picturescrazy: Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.


And the kid's only in kindergarten! Time to change schools. Now. While there's still time.
 
2012-12-01 07:13:19 PM  

picturescrazy: Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.


Indeed. That plus locking this little kid in a room and forgetting about him. Hopefully his new school will do a better job.
 
2012-12-01 07:15:36 PM  
I would be unpleasant with this school.

This is a crime or should be.

Let's prosecute some karma.

*)
 
2012-12-01 07:16:13 PM  
She was just enjoying the peace and quiet so much after locking up little Johnny that she completely forgot he was in there, amirite?

Can't believe there are schools that still exist with rooms like this.

Would love to know what a kid had to do to warrant getting locked in somewhere.
 
2012-12-01 07:16:18 PM  

fusillade762: "Better behave, Timmy, or you'll get the padded room again."

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"The last thing we ever want to do is lose a child,"

This made me laugh, but I'm not sure why.


Hey, wait a minute! You mean they have padded rooms? They didn't pad the rooms I was placed in, nor did they paint the plywood walls. Although, more on point, they did have trouble unlocking the door one day to get a kid out. Our bus was held till he was freed so his parents didn't have to get upset.

/I don't miss a state that still allow principals to spank then punish parents when the kid has marks later.
//not kidding
 
2012-12-01 07:20:06 PM  

Canton: picturescrazy: Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.

And the kid's only in kindergarten! Time to change schools. Now. While there's still time.


This is Idaho, not New York City.
99% of the country does not have an option to "change schools", because there is 1.
 
2012-12-01 07:26:48 PM  

Indubitably: I would be unpleasant with this school.

This is a crime or should be.

Let's prosecute some karma.

*)


See my previous post, and add the fact that in my state(Wisconsin) it was common to place children in full four point restraint, with at least two grown adults immobilizing each limb, holding the student spread eagle face down against the carpet. This is the same way inmates at a maximum security prison would be restrained. It wasn't outlawed until one of the untrained schlobs they hire as special ed teachers murdered a little girl doing so. And the law only banned certain types of restraint.
 
2012-12-01 07:27:53 PM  
A few years ago my daughter was in daycare during a tornado warning. There weren't many kids there at the time, and everyone got into a large storage room in the middle of the building. The tornado didn't come even close to the daycare, and everyone was fine.

That night my (ex)mother-in-law was over for dinner, and my daughter wanted to tell her about the tornado.

Daughter: Grammy! Guess what! We had to get in the closet today at daycare!

(ex)Mother-in-Law: Oh, were you bad?

My (ex) wife and I almost hurt ourselves laughing.
 
2012-12-01 07:31:31 PM  

Moonlightfox: Indubitably: I would be unpleasant with this school.

This is a crime or should be.

Let's prosecute some karma.

*)

See my previous post, and add the fact that in my state(Wisconsin) it was common to place children in full four point restraint, with at least two grown adults immobilizing each limb, holding the student spread eagle face down against the carpet. This is the same way inmates at a maximum security prison would be restrained. It wasn't outlawed until one of the untrained schlobs they hire as special ed teachers murdered a little girl doing so. And the law only banned certain types of restraint.


Do you hate me?
 
2012-12-01 07:33:25 PM  

Indubitably: Moonlightfox: Indubitably: I would be unpleasant with this school.

This is a crime or should be.

Let's prosecute some karma.

*)

See my previous post, and add the fact that in my state(Wisconsin) it was common to place children in full four point restraint, with at least two grown adults immobilizing each limb, holding the student spread eagle face down against the carpet. This is the same way inmates at a maximum security prison would be restrained. It wasn't outlawed until one of the untrained schlobs they hire as special ed teachers murdered a little girl doing so. And the law only banned certain types of restraint.

Do you hate me?


No. Agreeing with you. Just saying that these kids are out of sight, out of mind. No advocates. Everybody blames the kids. The law doesn't notice unless something awful happens.
 
2012-12-01 07:33:39 PM  
A five-year-old can't go an hour and a half without pissing himself, and the parents have the nerve to denigrate the teacher.
 
2012-12-01 07:36:46 PM  

Moonlightfox: Indubitably: Moonlightfox: Indubitably: I would be unpleasant with this school.

This is a crime or should be.

Let's prosecute some karma.

*)

See my previous post, and add the fact that in my state(Wisconsin) it was common to place children in full four point restraint, with at least two grown adults immobilizing each limb, holding the student spread eagle face down against the carpet. This is the same way inmates at a maximum security prison would be restrained. It wasn't outlawed until one of the untrained schlobs they hire as special ed teachers murdered a little girl doing so. And the law only banned certain types of restraint.

Do you hate me?

No. Agreeing with you. Just saying that these kids are out of sight, out of mind. No advocates. Everybody blames the kids. The law doesn't notice unless something awful happens.


Wrong, the law notices spurious crimes; so it protects when it counts, right? Right?

Pffft.

Please protect the children.

Thank you.
 
2012-12-01 07:38:32 PM  

Ecobuckeye: A five-year-old can't go an hour and a half without pissing himself, and the parents have the nerve to denigrate the teacher.


Parental wut?
 
2012-12-01 07:38:41 PM  
quatchi:
[msp.westwood.wikispaces.net image 435x198]

/Hot and sad like tears.


Fark you, man. Just... fark you.
 
2012-12-01 07:39:19 PM  

quatchi: [msp.westwood.wikispaces.net image 435x198]

/Hot and sad like tears.


First think I thought of.
 
2012-12-01 07:46:42 PM  
Reminds me of my 5th grade teacher. She threw a stapler at me and locked me in the closet, but I just pried up the floorboards and got out through the basement.

/I probably deserved it... I was a little asshole.
 
2012-12-01 07:49:09 PM  

DaCaptain19: And the Phalanx of Attorneys in 3...2...action.


Sparta and associates what is your profession?

uh, lawyers?
HOOOAA HOOOAA HOOOAA!

(money! money money!)
Now I know what they were screaming in 300, it's now so clear to me.
 
2012-12-01 07:49:16 PM  
Yep, what happens in prisons trickles down to public schools, then you have generations of children believing that institutional life is normal.

The sooner the whole shiatshow collapses, the sooner we can rebuild.
 
2012-12-01 07:55:43 PM  
NAMBLA is sending a crack team of investigators to the school and has in mind a $100,000 donation for closed circuit cameras. "Some of our members are more into sadistic acts than just the regular stuff and we are delighted that this Idaho school district has had the foresight to anticipate our needs with such young children" a spokesman said.
 
2012-12-01 08:08:21 PM  
But did any of the kids get bikes?
 
2012-12-01 08:10:31 PM  
Another fine union employee
 
2012-12-01 08:13:49 PM  
FTFA: "I know that if I locked my child in a room long enough for him to urinate on himself, I'd be going to jail or child protective services would dang sure be here taking him out of my house that night," Cagle said.

Umm... a child can urinate on himself in a matter of seconds. The child could have pissed himself because he was mad at the teacher for locking him in the room.
 
2012-12-01 08:15:12 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: "I know that if I locked my child in a room long enough for him to urinate on himself, I'd be going to jail or child protective services would dang sure be here taking him out of my house that night," Cagle said.

Umm... a child can urinate on himself in a matter of seconds. The child could have pissed himself because he was mad at the teacher for locking him in the room.

And?

 
2012-12-01 08:15:39 PM  

Begoggle: Canton: picturescrazy: Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.

And the kid's only in kindergarten! Time to change schools. Now. While there's still time.

This is Idaho, not New York City.
99% of the country does not have an option to "change schools", because there is 1.


That doesn't make it impossible. It may be worth looking into.

Begoggle: Canton: picturescrazy: Wow, this plus three instances of failing to get the kid on his bus home. This school sure has its shiat together.

And the kid's only in kindergarten! Time to change schools. Now. While there's still time.

This is Idaho, not New York City.
99% of the country does not have an option to "change schools", because there is 1.


This is Caldwell, Idaho. According to 2010 data, the population is over 40,000. It's not tiny. I don't know how spread out it is -- I'm just a Michigander doing some Googling here -- but there are six elementary schools in Caldwell School District. And that's just public schools. There may also be charter and parochial schools in the area. Just because it's Idaho doesn't mean there are no possible options.
 
2012-12-01 08:17:54 PM  
Dad sounds like a total douche.
 
2012-12-01 08:19:51 PM  
FTFA: "I know that if I locked my child in a room long enough for him to urinate on himself, I'd be going to jail or child protective services would dang sure be here taking him out of my house that night," Cagle said.

That's not true. First off, there is no law against locking your own child in a room for an hour-and-a-half. Secondly, if your child pissed himself during that time, you would tell your child to change out of his wet clothes and that would be the end of it. Third, who would have called CPS in the middle of the night if your child had pissed himself while he was locked in his room for an hour-and-a-half?

Seriously. This is the parent just setting up the school for a lawsuit. Stop being a goddamned victim and tell your child to stop misbehaving in school.
 
2012-12-01 08:23:55 PM  
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2012-12-01 08:29:13 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: "I know that if I locked my child in a room long enough for him to urinate on himself, I'd be going to jail or child protective services would dang sure be here taking him out of my house that night," Cagle said.

Umm... a child can urinate on himself in a matter of seconds. The child could have pissed himself because he was mad at the teacher for locking him in the room.


He could have also wet himself because he was frightened.
 
2012-12-01 08:29:29 PM  
The school is probably in the poor area of the district, where they send all the shiatty teachers they can't fire.
 
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