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		I can't remember if I cried when I read about Islamist crimes, but something touched me deep inside when Mali's music died (washingtonpost.com)		118
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Weaver95		2012-12-01 12:05:26 PM

I have this urge to suddenly start a pirate radio station....

ZAZ		2012-12-01 12:11:00 PM

So bye bye to Timbuktu pride
Sing the Koran for the morans
or we'll slit your throat wide.

tallguywithglasseson		2012-12-01 12:39:10 PM

I'm thinking Arby's.

cman		2012-12-01 01:19:42 PM

This kind of shiat makes Iran look like a liberal paradise compared to these insane places

raerae1980		2012-12-01 01:20:20 PM

That SUCKS :(

sgnilward		2012-12-01 03:00:09 PM

What year is it over there?

yellowcat		2012-12-01 03:32:11 PM

I worked with a terrific guy in the mid 80s from Mali. Educated in France, spoke 5 or 6 languages. When his Father died, he went back to Mali because he was the oldest male in the family. From Timbuktu, when I hear about stuff like this I wonder about him. Hope you're OK Mamadou.

coco ebert		2012-12-01 03:40:08 PM

Sads. Mali seems like an amazing place.

FloydA		2012-12-01 04:53:52 PM

This is what the fundies are threatened by.
Khaira Arby and Her Band perform "Sourgou", "Salou," "Cinquantenaire," and "Goumou".

SuperTramp		2012-12-01 04:57:18 PM

Heartbreaking.

Music is the God-spirit in us all.

Tinariwen - Lulla

puffy999		2012-12-01 05:19:38 PM

Weaver95: I have this urge to suddenly start a pirate radio station....

Mohammed's Radio?

KrispyKritter		2012-12-01 05:20:28 PM

sgnilward: What year is it over there?

seriously. they're going to freak once someone brings in electricity and running water. damn.

ka1axy		2012-12-01 05:21:02 PM

Very sad. I love listening to the music that comes out of Mali.

Fundamentalism is bad. Even more so when it attempts to wipe out culture in the name of religion.

Mega Steve		2012-12-01 05:23:11 PM

Why is that the more extreme the people take their religion, the more they want to crush the joy out of life?

Stop having fun! Life is meant to be endured, not enjoyed!

Amos Quito		2012-12-01 05:25:06 PM

So...

Vote Likud?

Fark Rye For Many Whores		2012-12-01 05:25:49 PM

RIP Mali

natmar_76		2012-12-01 05:27:07 PM

FloydA: This is what the fundies are threatened by.
Khaira Arby and Her Band perform "Sourgou", "Salou," "Cinquantenaire," and "Goumou".

SCANDALOUS

Somacandra		2012-12-01 05:29:47 PM

FTFA: The extremists also destroyed tombs and other cultural treasures, saying they were against Islamic principles.

Yeah, these assholes are trying to destroy history, including Islamic history. I certainly hope the African Union and ECOWAS troops are capable of stopping them--Mail's army doesn't seem to be.

richard_1963		2012-12-01 05:30:49 PM

They have installed an ultraconservative brand of Islamic law in this moderate Muslim country, reminiscent of Afghanistan's Taliban and Somalia's al-Shabab movements. Now, women must wear head-to-toe garments. Smoking, alcohol, videos and any suggestions of Western culture are banned. The new decrees are enforced by public amputations, whippings and executions, prompting more than 400,000 people to flee.

It's amazing how horribly a mind can be twisted by religious faith. They've created Hell on Earth,

GreatGlavinsGhost		2012-12-01 05:33:42 PM

FloydA: This is what the fundies are threatened by.
Khaira Arby and Her Band perform "Sourgou", "Salou," "Cinquantenaire," and "Goumou".

I think I see why the fundies are threatened ...

God-is-a-Taco		2012-12-01 05:37:31 PM

In a way, it's almost comforting that there seems to be genuine evil out there in the world.
You can say the fanatics are a product of their environment, perhaps, but their minds aren't there any more.
You could have a movie about rallying about and killing these zealots, and you wouldn't really have any quandaries about their deaths.

FloydA: This is what the fundies are threatened by.
Khaira Arby and Her Band perform "Sourgou", "Salou," "Cinquantenaire," and "Goumou".

Interesting to see. Public stations strike again, those socialist bastards.

Super Chronic		2012-12-01 05:40:55 PM

Mourning the loss of this bit of cultural heritage, a local man said "good golly, I miss Mali music."

ParanoidAgnostic		2012-12-01 05:41:19 PM

They are taking that "religion of peace" thing a little too literally

Sock Ruh Tease		2012-12-01 05:41:57 PM

Mansa Muzak is not going to be happy about this.

whatshisname		2012-12-01 05:44:13 PM

I've always wanted to visit Mali. Let's hope there's something left of it. The Islamists have already started demolishing ancient mud churches.

Kevin72		2012-12-01 05:46:49 PM

Q: How come we can chase down el quaeda in Afghanistan, the Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, and everywhere else, but not Mali?

A: Mali is in Africa and that's where blah people come from so phukkit.

/not saying that that is right.

LewDux		2012-12-01 05:47:16 PM

Link

Prank Call of Cthulhu		2012-12-01 05:47:57 PM

sgnilward: What year is it over there?

Same time it is in the rest of the Muslim world: 632 AD.

These people think music is evil and want to kill musicians. There is no reason on Earth we should suffer these whackjobs to continue to draw breath. When you find someone carrying out such a vile, thoroughly wicked philosophy, there should be no debate, no hand-wringing. These people need to die. NOTHING good comes of people who believe, and act upon, such outrageous nonsense. If the governments of the world had any balls at all, we'd start shipping troops over there and slaughtering these guys immediately.

SurelyShirley		2012-12-01 05:49:01 PM

Don't worry, that dude didn't die...

i50.tinypic.com

...he just moved to Venice!

i46.tinypic.com

Famous Thamas		2012-12-01 05:50:32 PM

Evil creatures cannot sing.

DarkSoulNoHope		2012-12-01 05:50:48 PM

Amos Quito: So...

Vote Likud?

This gave me a chuckle.

/remember, for the small evil things that Islamic Fundamentalists do, we should not only condemn these acts but also other fundamentalist actions of other religions as well
//for example, Christian Fundamentalists doing a book burning or Jewish Fundamentalists throwing rocks at cars during Shabbat
///slashies!

ChuDogg		2012-12-01 05:53:21 PM

I dont see what the problem is, they are practicing their religion the way it is stated. Thats their right as a society, who are we to proclaim from thousands of miles away indpendent of their culture and history how they should live. Unless you're a bigot and you hate muslims, neitheir christianity nor secularism should be proclaiming some kind of moral high ground over others. Thats pretty much the exact definition of a bigot.

Revek		2012-12-01 05:54:18 PM

I bucked one and Tim bucked two.

whither_apophis		2012-12-01 05:54:29 PM

It gives a new meaning to the remake of "Footloose"

Kevin72		2012-12-01 05:55:13 PM

Arby's music is oddly reminiscent of some traditional Buddhist music I heard when I lived in Taiwan. It was the guitar style in the background.

Djembe		2012-12-01 05:55:57 PM

Get on spotify and check out Toumani Diabate. He plays an instrument called a kora, which is a kind of harp, When doubled with a balafon (a kind of marimba), and topped with singing, the result is some amazing, emotional playing. If you're not familiar with Malian music, give it a try. If you're used to western rock, it's definitely gonna be different, but it's great stuff.

The destruction of the libraries in Timbuktu is one of the great cultural losses of mankind. I'm not a Muslim, but the loss of historic texts going back to the 12th and 13th centuries sickens me. Now the loss of their music, too.

Why the hell can't we all just get along?

/I'm serious. WTF?

The One True TheDavid		2012-12-01 05:56:03 PM

Will the Islamists put an end to mutilating girls' genitals or make it compulsory?

Bonzo_1116		2012-12-01 05:57:31 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu		2012-12-01 05:59:33 PM

ChuDogg: I dont see what the problem is, they are practicing their religion the way it is stated. Thats their right as a society, who are we to proclaim from thousands of miles away indpendent of their culture and history how they should live. Unless you're a bigot and you hate muslims, neitheir christianity nor secularism should be proclaiming some kind of moral high ground over others. Thats pretty much the exact definition of a bigot.

No. Fark that moral relativism bullshiat. These people hate art. They hate art because any time spent on art is time spent not worshipping their god. To attack and kill those who create art is to not be fully human. These "people" need to be expunged from the Earth as soon as possible.

Happy Hours		2012-12-01 06:00:27 PM

ka1axy: Fundamentalism is bad.

But Funkamentalism is good!

We want the funk!

DancingElkCondor		2012-12-01 06:06:04 PM

Nothing shows more ignorance than a Liberal warbling "Islam is a Religion of Peace"...even though Islam forbids gays, abortion, womens rights....all issues Liberals support.

Liberals would be going full-apoplexy if Christians were doing this

nucular bum		2012-12-01 06:06:39 PM

I'm entertaining the idea of raising a group of militant musicians to arm ourselves and go fight these farksticks, First, continually blast them with really loud music to disorient them, then go in for the kill. So call me a bigot, Music must be defended from these perverters of religion.

/i generally believe condemning someone to nonexistence because of one's beliefs is the greatest sin of all
//but they're doing much more -- oppression and mutilation to name but two
///fark those guys, seriously

Dear Jerk		2012-12-01 06:07:56 PM

Welcome to Mali
Amadou and Mariam

I'll throw in some Nneka from Nigeria. Because why not.
Suffri

LaughingRadish		2012-12-01 06:08:28 PM

Old enough to know better		2012-12-01 06:09:21 PM

What kind of farked up religion bans music? That's shiatty cartoon level villainy.

Somebody want to quote me a verse here?

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2012-12-01 06:09:43 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: ChuDogg: I dont see what the problem is, they are practicing their religion the way it is stated. Thats their right as a society, who are we to proclaim from thousands of miles away indpendent of their culture and history how they should live. Unless you're a bigot and you hate muslims, neitheir christianity nor secularism should be proclaiming some kind of moral high ground over others. Thats pretty much the exact definition of a bigot.

No. Fark that moral relativism bullshiat. These people hate art. They hate art because any time spent on art is time spent not worshipping their god. To attack and kill those who create art is to not be fully human. These "people" need to be expunged from the Earth as soon as possible.

Well, in all fairness, they may have chosen both the proper god and proper way to worship. Maybe god is an insufferable dick who hates priceless cultural artifacts.

noblewolf		2012-12-01 06:14:25 PM

nucular bum: I'm entertaining the idea of raising a group of militant musicians to arm ourselves and go fight these farksticks, First, continually blast them with really loud music to disorient them, then go in for the kill. So call me a bigot, Music must be defended from these perverters of religion.

/i generally believe condemning someone to nonexistence because of one's beliefs is the greatest sin of all
//but they're doing much more -- oppression and mutilation to name but two
///fark those guys, seriously

I was thinking something similar. My idea was to get all those who play their music at ridiculous levels when driving down the street, send them armed to the areas that are in peril, and let them fight it out. I know its not the best idea, but on one hand they will be fighting intolerance, and on the other, I won't have to hear them at 1AM when they drive by shaking my windows.

/peace out

Porous Horace		2012-12-01 06:15:16 PM

The UN needs to appoint Celine Dion as a World Ambassador For Music And Peace. It's win-win.

BarkingUnicorn		2012-12-01 06:16:30 PM

"In current times, lyrics ... have also been used to expose corruption and human rights abuses, and have helped eradicate stigmas and given a voice to the poor. "

Well, there's your problem right there.

germ78		2012-12-01 06:17:46 PM

FTFA: hard-liners who have decreed any form of music - save for the tunes set to Koranic verses - as being against their religion.

Similar Islamist hard-liners also get pissed off if you sing Koranic verses... link

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