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(The National Memo)   GOP furious that Obama is acting like he won the election   (nationalmemo.com ) divider line 244
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2012-12-01 09:51:38 AM  
Yeah. That's gotta hurt.
 
2012-12-01 10:02:30 AM  
BOTH parties should be concerned that the split is that close, and make sure they address the concerns of those who voted against them. The last several elections have been very close, but people act like they have a "mandate." Bush did it too, and I was wondering what all my conservative friends were cheering about.
 
2012-12-01 10:09:47 AM  
uppity?
 
2012-12-01 10:24:23 AM  

rwhamann: BOTH parties should be concerned that the split is that close, and make sure they address the concerns of those who voted against them. The last several elections have been very close, but people act like they have a "mandate." Bush did it too, and I was wondering what all my conservative friends were cheering about.


The "split" wasn't that close.
 
2012-12-01 10:42:03 AM  
Just imagine how bunched their panties will be when he wins for a third time.
 
2012-12-01 10:44:36 AM  
Two and a half percent difference isn't close? In any other topic, it would be considered close, but we've been conditioned by (winning) politicians and the media to think it is. It's not, and it doesn't speak well of our country 47% of the people voted for the Deceitful Duo, but they did, and the President needs to bear that in mind, as Bush the younger should have done in 2000 and 2004. He has to win over those voters, or the opinion and ideology gap will continue.
 
2012-12-01 10:55:09 AM  
The democrats and Obama forget that they didn't win the house back.
 
2012-12-01 11:06:31 AM  

EnviroDude: The democrats and Obama forget that they didn't win the house back.


Republicans forget the Democrats gained seats in both the House and Senate
 
2012-12-01 11:06:45 AM  

rwhamann: BOTH parties should be concerned that the split is that close, and make sure they address the concerns of those who voted against them. The last several elections have been very close, but people act like they have a "mandate." Bush did it too, and I was wondering what all my conservative friends were cheering about.


obama won an electoral landslide. plus 60 percent of americans favor raising taxes on the top 2 percent. he does have a mandate.
 
2012-12-01 11:09:35 AM  

djkutch: Republicans forget the Democrats gained seats in both the House and Senate


democratic house candidates got more votes than republican house candidates. the only reason they didn't win the house back is down to gerrymandering.
 
2012-12-01 11:11:48 AM  
I have a solution to ending this fiscal cliff problem.

Its insanely idiotic, so that is why I think it does have a chance of working.

Push the NASA budget up to $200 billion. Doing this will appease the right as it will help them rebuild American exceptionalism and pride. Of course the partisan game still will be played, but at least I believe this will help get through this current issue.
 
2012-12-01 11:23:39 AM  

EnviroDude: The democrats and Obama forget that they didn't win the house back.


www.cdadc.com
 
2012-12-01 11:38:00 AM  

rwhamann: BOTH parties should be concerned that the split is that close, and make sure they address the concerns of those who voted against them. The last several elections have been very close, but people act like they have a "mandate." Bush did it too, and I was wondering what all my conservative friends were cheering about.


Fun thing about that "mandate" and supposed permanent majority. The GOP has not gotten more than 52% of the popular vote in a national election since 1988.
 
2012-12-01 11:42:28 AM  
51-47 in basketball - two baskets
51-47 in football - a touchdown
$50,800 annual salary vs. $47,200 - about a Starbucks and a Danish a day

The split among the people was not close. Electoral? Somewhat bigger split, but electoral is bullshiat to average American. All they see is that for everyone they know who voted for Obama, they know someone who voted for the other guy. To act like you have a mandate and can ignore the desires and needs of the other party is simple hubris. Fortunately for politicians of both stripes, apparently there's a fountain of hubris somewhere inside the beltway.
 
2012-12-01 12:03:41 PM  

EnviroDude: The democrats and Obama forget that they didn't win the house back.


yet.

point here is that the GOP still hasn't figured out that Obama was re-elected BY A LANDSLIDE. that means - or should be obvious anyways - that the Republicans are on shaky ground here for these negotiations. the country isn't fond of them being obstructionist assholes.
 
2012-12-01 12:17:01 PM  
*scans headline*

media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-01 12:21:36 PM  

cman: I have a solution to ending this fiscal cliff problem.

Its insanely idiotic, so that is why I think it does have a chance of working.

Push the NASA budget up to $200 billion. Doing this will appease the right as it will help them rebuild American exceptionalism and pride. Of course the partisan game still will be played, but at least I believe this will help get through this current issue.


Still have to pay for it. The should take it out of defense.
 
2012-12-01 12:27:19 PM  
i595.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-01 12:34:00 PM  
Can you believe they won't let Ann Romney into the Oval Office to measure for curtains?? The very IDEA! It's like Mitt never did a President-Elect website at all!
 
2012-12-01 12:52:29 PM  
Boo friggin hoo.
 
2012-12-01 12:55:48 PM  
What a snob! OOOOOOH, the ARROGANCE!!

Of course, the Kenyan didn't win cuz he got 141% of the votes and black people voted in Maine!!  EXPLAIN THAT LIBTARDS!!1!
 
2012-12-01 01:01:01 PM  

rwhamann: The split among the people was not close. Electoral? Somewhat bigger split, but electoral is bullshiat to average American. All they see is that for everyone they know who voted for Obama, they know someone who voted for the other guy. To act like you have a mandate and can ignore the desires and needs of the other party is simple hubris.


Obama earned political capital, and he intends to spend it.

"I've earned capital in this election - and I'm going to spend it for what I told the people I'd spend it on, which is - you've heard the agenda: Social Security and tax reform, moving this economy forward, education, fighting and winning the war on terror."

That was Bush, of course, but Obama won way bigger than he did, so he has more capital.

This is how it always works.
 
2012-12-01 01:01:03 PM  

sithon: uppity?


Uppity. He won, but needs to know his place.
 
2012-12-01 01:01:20 PM  
I'm glad he's treating the GOP's attitude that it should get 99% to 100% of what it wants with the disdain it deserves.

More drastic cuts and austerity are not going to help the economy.
 
2012-12-01 01:05:54 PM  

BSABSVR: sithon: uppity?

Uppity. He won, but needs to know his place.


it is truly bizarre to see the GOP try and talk down to Obama. the guy won re-election in a fricking LANDSLIDE and the Republicans still don't consider him a legitimate president. Collectively, the Republicans are having a very large problem accepting a reality they do not like and do not want to face.
 
2012-12-01 01:11:42 PM  

Lionel Mandrake:
Obama earned political capital, and he intends to spend it.

"I've earned capital in this election - and I'm going to spend it for what I told the people I'd spend it on, which is - you've heard the agenda: Social Security and tax reform, moving this economy forward, education, fighting and winning the war on terror."

That was Bush, of course, but Obama won way bigger than he did, so he has more capital.

This is how it always works.


I know that's the way people have been doing it. I am arguing that they shouldn't, and continued application is just going to widen the divide.
 
2012-12-01 01:31:51 PM  

rwhamann: Two and a half percent difference isn't close? In any other topic, it would be considered close, but we've been conditioned by (winning) politicians and the media to think it is


But it's not any other topic. It's an election, and no, that isn't close, relative to the average. And even if you want it to be, the electoral curb stomping Romney received makes anyone calling this election "close" let alone "very close" look like an idiot.
 
2012-12-01 01:34:03 PM  

rwhamann: but electoral is bullshiat to average American.


"Electoral is bullsh*t" to morons who have lost an election by a landslide.
 
2012-12-01 01:40:10 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: black people voted in Maine!! EXPLAIN THAT LIBTARDS!!1!


i915.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-01 01:40:36 PM  

thamike: rwhamann: but electoral is bullshiat to average American.

"Electoral is bullsh*t" to morons who have lost an election by a landslide.


I voted for Obama, moron. Both times.
 
2012-12-01 01:41:48 PM  

rwhamann: thamike: rwhamann: but electoral is bullshiat to average American.

"Electoral is bullsh*t" to morons who have lost an election by a landslide.

I voted for Obama, moron. Both times.


I didn't say anything about you, moron. Either time.
 
2012-12-01 01:42:47 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: What a snob! OOOOOOH, the ARROGANCE!!

Of course, the Kenyan didn't win cuz he got 141% of the votes and black people voted in Maine!!  EXPLAIN THAT LIBTARDS!!1!


I know

I mean, remember Whitewater? All that money wasted for all those years only because President Bill Clinton was the first black President. Or the crazy conspiracy theories regarding the death of a Clinton friend. Wow did that black guy get the shiat handed to him because of his media-described race
 
2012-12-01 01:50:32 PM  

rwhamann: To act like you have a mandate and can ignore the desires and needs of the other party is simple hubris.


Yeah! If only Obama hadn't refused to work with Republicans in his first term and shoved his socialist agenda down their throats, we'd have a lot more Republicans in office now!
 
2012-12-01 01:54:36 PM  
But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.
 
2012-12-01 01:55:50 PM  

Therion: rwhamann: To act like you have a mandate and can ignore the desires and needs of the other party is simple hubris.

Yeah! If only Obama hadn't refused to work with Republicans in his first term and shoved his socialist agenda down their throats, we'd have a lot more Republicans in office now!


That's a good point. Obama isn't acting like that. It's just the cheerleaders.
 
2012-12-01 02:01:09 PM  

cman: I mean, remember Whitewater?


Jesus Christ you are a powerful kind of farking stupid today. I men more so than your usual self-involved dipshiattery.

Adjust your meds, freakshow. They ain't working.
 
2012-12-01 02:02:14 PM  

rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.


Really? I think the politically correct culture of treating stupidity as an entitlement more of a contributor to the divide we have today, which isn't nearly as severe as the same media who has fostered said culture claims it is.
 
2012-12-01 02:04:49 PM  
"is more of a contributor" that is.
 
2012-12-01 02:06:33 PM  

rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.


Yes, using the only metric that actually matters is "stupid" and "wrong."

If you're a moron.
 
2012-12-01 02:07:20 PM  

rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.


no, the divide is caused by a Republican party that's so far out of touch with reality that they tanked their own election chances. The Republican pundits actually believed that 'unskewed' polling data, and it looks like Romney allocated campaign resources based on the same sources. the GOP started to believe in their echo chamber and stopped listening to anything else. THAT'S what contributes to the divide in this nation. along with 30 odd years of flat wages, religious fundamentalists who conflate CEO wealth with divine right of kings and an authoritarian mindset that makes attila the hun look like a bleeding heart liberal.

I have my issues with the Democratic party, but at least none of them believe that their political opponents are literally the anti-christ. the GOP on the other hand...
 
2012-12-01 02:09:49 PM  

rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.


But Obama is governing from the middle. His budget already reflects concessions given in earlier times to Republicans. He has cut more spending than previous presidents. His budget is a centrist budget, meant to please multiple constituencies.
 
2012-12-01 02:13:02 PM  

coco ebert: rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.

But Obama is governing from the middle. His budget already reflects concessions given in earlier times to Republicans. He has cut more spending than previous presidents. His budget is a centrist budget, meant to please multiple constituencies.


And the GOP will STILL oppose it. not because they disagree with the plan or think its bad for the country...but because they don't want to see Obama have any sort of victory. I really do think the GOP wants to punish Obama for winning with a landslide.
 
2012-12-01 02:23:32 PM  

cman: Lionel Mandrake: What a snob! OOOOOOH, the ARROGANCE!!

Of course, the Kenyan didn't win cuz he got 141% of the votes and black people voted in Maine!!  EXPLAIN THAT LIBTARDS!!1!

I know

I mean, remember Whitewater? All that money wasted for all those years only because President Bill Clinton was the first black President. Or the crazy conspiracy theories regarding the death of a Clinton friend. Wow did that black guy get the shiat handed to him because of his media-described race


wat
 
2012-12-01 02:24:47 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: wat


He's been mainlining dumbf*ck again.
 
2012-12-01 02:27:04 PM  

Weaver95: coco ebert: rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.

But Obama is governing from the middle. His budget already reflects concessions given in earlier times to Republicans. He has cut more spending than previous presidents. His budget is a centrist budget, meant to please multiple constituencies.

And the GOP will STILL oppose it. not because they disagree with the plan or think its bad for the country...but because they don't want to see Obama have any sort of victory. I really do think the GOP wants to punish Obama for winning with a landslide.


The major difference is that Demacratic party will heed the call for unity when it is needed. Keep in mind, Clinton had to force welfare reform, going against long held beliefs of many prominent Democratic Party.

But Boener really should look at what happen to Gingrich.
 
2012-12-01 02:39:25 PM  

EnviroDude: The democrats and Obama forget that they didn't win the house back.


And by "didn't win the House back" you mean that the post 2010 census gerrymandering worked out for the GOP seeing as the Democrats had a 600,000+ popular vote victory across House races this year.

You. Lost. All. The. Popular. Vote.

No doubt a Romney PV victory with an Obama EV victory would have been just as legitimate in your eyes...
 
2012-12-01 02:53:39 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Weaver95: coco ebert: rwhamann: But I am saying that using the electoral split as proof of a landslide is stupid and wrong. And yes, I know it's always been that way. I think that mentality is a contributor to the divide we have today.

But Obama is governing from the middle. His budget already reflects concessions given in earlier times to Republicans. He has cut more spending than previous presidents. His budget is a centrist budget, meant to please multiple constituencies.

And the GOP will STILL oppose it. not because they disagree with the plan or think its bad for the country...but because they don't want to see Obama have any sort of victory. I really do think the GOP wants to punish Obama for winning with a landslide.

The major difference is that Demacratic party will heed the call for unity when it is needed. Keep in mind, Clinton had to force welfare reform, going against long held beliefs of many prominent Democratic Party.

But Boener really should look at what happen to Gingrich.


Republicans study selective history and you know it. They can't help themselves and will double down on the obstruction. The difference this time around is I think the big money corporate donors will start to abandon them. When Gingrich shut down the government it didn't crash the stock market. It just pissed off voters. If this fiscal cliff business sends us back into another recession you can bet that there will be plenty on Wall street and corporate america that will see stock prices take a beating. Those are pretty smart guys and they ONLY care about making money. Given the choice of paying slightly higher taxes on capital gains and losing their shirt because the economy is in the tank and there are no gains to tax you know what they will choose.

The Chamber of Commerce is already asking that the debt ceiling be included in any grand bargain to avoid the fiscal cliff and republicans are having none of it. When the republicans start costing big money donors big dollars those donors will start looking to buy congress critters on the other side of the isle.
 
2012-12-01 03:07:59 PM  
Mandate doesn't matter. Percentage of the popular vote doesn't matter. It's like the yards a football team gains in a game. The only thing that matters are the numbers in the points column on the scoreboard.

The next two years are going to be very rough for the Republicans. They basically have two choices: they can let Obama run all over them, or they can drag their feet on every last little thing, and act like any minor gain is a major victory. That's what's going on with the fiscal cliff, and that's what's going on with Susan Rice.

The next few months are going to set the tone for how the Obama presidency will be remembered. If he can slap the Republicans down, he'll be up there with FDR. If he can't, he'll be remembered in the same category as with Rutherford B. Hayes.
 
2012-12-01 03:27:03 PM  
I had a naive belief that maybe now that Obama won and won't be running again, the republicans would stop trying to destroy the country.
 
2012-12-01 03:28:28 PM  

EnviroDude: The democrats and Obama forget that they didn't win the house back.


Goddam, dude. Could you just die already? No one here likes you.

/farking troll
 
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