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2012-12-01 09:12:08 AM  
Bill Maher is the chief leftist humorist?

First, Maher is a libertarian. Second, I can think of several leftist humorists that are both better and more popular than him.
 
2012-12-01 09:19:06 AM  
I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.
 
2012-12-01 09:25:05 AM  

vygramul: Bill Maher is the chief leftist humorist?

First, Maher is a libertarian. Second, I can think of several leftist humorists that are both better and more popular than him.


I suppose he needs to look up the definition of the word libertarian, as he does not seem to fit the mold, calling himself a "progressive".
 
2012-12-01 09:28:21 AM  
Remember when the election was coming up the left said shiat like "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and letting Israel do whatever the fark they want"?

Surprise, morans. Obama isn't your liberal hero. More on the left need to step up and hold him accountable.

And no, I am only pointing out that many of you are full of shiat. I am not endorsing any policy at all.
 
2012-12-01 09:37:54 AM  

cman: Remember when the election was coming up the left said shiat like "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and letting Israel do whatever the fark they want"?

Surprise, morans. Obama isn't your liberal hero. More on the left need to step up and hold him accountable.

And no, I am only pointing out that many of you are full of shiat. I am not endorsing any policy at all.


Uhm, can you recall a single Farker - any Farker at all - who holds Obama as a paragon of progressive leadership? The reason so many Farkers like him is because he's not crazy, is not a bigot, and does not exist to serve only a tiny portion of the population. With exception to social issues, he's a more a moderate Republican from 1987 than a McGovern liberal.

There are far more Republicans who think their leaders are "fiscally conservative" than Democrats who consider Obama an actual "liberal." Stop telling us what we think. That's what talk radio and FOX do, and it's irritating.
 
2012-12-01 09:41:03 AM  

dickfreckle: There are far more Republicans who think their leaders are "fiscally conservative" than Democrats who consider Obama an actual "liberal." Stop telling us what we think. That's what talk radio and FOX do, and it's irritating


By this I meant that they actually say "so-and-so is a fiscal conservative, a businessman who knows how to run things." You almost never hear anyone referencing Obama as the liberal vanguard. That's what I was referring to when I asked you to stop telling me what I think.
 
2012-12-01 09:41:12 AM  

superdolfan1: vygramul: Bill Maher is the chief leftist humorist?

First, Maher is a libertarian. Second, I can think of several leftist humorists that are both better and more popular than him.

I suppose he needs to look up the definition of the word libertarian, as he does not seem to fit the mold, calling himself a "progressive".


Ever hear his opinions? He's not one of the Republican libertarians, he's one of the pot-smoking libertarians who is an anti-vaxxer. Throw in his fiscal conservatism of the type that's typical for libertarians, but not Republicans (like being against the space program) and he may call himself progressive because he's decided that's the best way to get an audience. (Heck, his show was originally called "Politically Incorrect" - not exactly screaming for a progressive audience with that title.)

I suppose it's possible he's changed some of his opinions.

cman: Remember when the election was coming up the left said shiat like "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and letting Israel do whatever the fark they want"?

Surprise, morans. Obama isn't your liberal hero. More on the left need to step up and hold him accountable.

And no, I am only pointing out that many of you are full of shiat. I am not endorsing any policy at all.



I don't recall that being part of the argument. In fact, all the, "Obama is an enemy of Israel" were loudly refuted by liberals.

Also, don't confuse the nonsense that "Romney will invade Iran on behalf of Israel, Obama won't" as being the same as "Obama will invade Israel on behalf of Hamas" like the Republicans do.
 
2012-12-01 09:46:13 AM  
Bill Maher said a number of times that Obama was preferable to Romney but that he was far from an ideal candidate, based upon what Bill thinks is important.

And based upon history, Obama isn't a liberal, he's a centrist. Someone a little to the right of Nixon or Ford. I know, I know, Obama is to the left of what Ronald Reagan said. Mind you, not to the left of what Reagan actually DID, but definitely to the left of what he said.
 
2012-12-01 09:47:43 AM  

cman: Surprise, morans. Obama isn't your liberal hero. More on the left need to step up and hold him accountable.


If only there were a leftist comedian who would be so bold as to criticize the usurper in chief. Too bad the gotcha drive-by lamestream MSM media would never air such a thing.
 
2012-12-01 09:50:52 AM  
Bill Maher

Politics
Maher and Ingrid Newkirk, founder of PETA. Maher is on the board of directors of the animal rights group.

Maher eschews political labels, referring to himself as "practical".[36] In the past, he has described himself as a libertarian and has also referred to himself "as a progressive, as a sane person".[37][38]

Maher favors a partial privatization of Social Security, ending corporate welfare and federal funding of non-profits, and legalization of gambling, prostitution, and marijuana. Maher is a member of the advisory boards for both the NORML and Marijuana Policy Project, organizations which support regulated legalization of marijuana.[39][40] He describes himself as an environmentalist, and he has spoken in favor of the Kyoto treaty on global warming on his show Real Time. He often criticizes industry figures involved in environmental pollution.[41]
 

I guess to today's Republicans that puts him somewhere to the left of Stalin, but that says more about them than Maher.
 
2012-12-01 10:02:39 AM  
Of course he is. It is what he does. He doesn't think of himself as a liberal. Only Conservatives think that of him.
 
2012-12-01 10:19:50 AM  

St_Francis_P: I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.


Yeah, I've never said once that I was pissed about that. *snort*

I still think it is a crime, a particularly heinous one, that the President executed an American without a trial. Not that any of the other lives are worth any less, but an American is specifically guaranteed a trial.
 
2012-12-01 10:26:53 AM  

GAT_00: St_Francis_P: I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.

Yeah, I've never said once that I was pissed about that. *snort*

I still think it is a crime, a particularly heinous one, that the President executed an American without a trial. Not that any of the other lives are worth any less, but an American is specifically guaranteed a trial.


Yes, just like Abe Lincoln is one of the biggest killer of Americans of all time
 
2012-12-01 10:32:00 AM  

SundaesChild: Of course he is. It is what he does. He doesn't think of himself as a liberal. Only Conservatives think that of him.


Because if you're not with them, then you worship Obama. There are no other choices.
 
2012-12-01 10:34:15 AM  

ToxicMunkee: SundaesChild: Of course he is. It is what he does. He doesn't think of himself as a liberal. Only Conservatives think that of him.

Because if you're not with them, then you worship Obama. There are no other choices.


Just like if you are against him, you are a Republican. There are no other parties.
 
2012-12-01 10:39:24 AM  

cman: Obama isn't your liberal hero. More on the left need to step up and hold him accountable.

And no, I am only pointing out that many of you are full of shiat. I am not endorsing any policy at all.


"Your man doesn't love you. And no, I'm not proposing an alternative, I'm just sayin' " is the basic farking definition of concern trolling. You're better than that, dude, or at least I thought so.

Bill Maher is a loud idiot who occasionally makes interesting statements, but I thought conservatives all agreed the position of "chief Leftist humorist" was Jon Stewart. Who, it bears noting, has also criticized Obama from time to time.
 
2012-12-01 10:41:37 AM  

RminusQ: cman: Obama isn't your liberal hero. More on the left need to step up and hold him accountable.

And no, I am only pointing out that many of you are full of shiat. I am not endorsing any policy at all.

"Your man doesn't love you. And no, I'm not proposing an alternative, I'm just sayin' " is the basic farking definition of concern trolling. You're better than that, dude, or at least I thought so.

Bill Maher is a loud idiot who occasionally makes interesting statements, but I thought conservatives all agreed the position of "chief Leftist humorist" was Jon Stewart. Who, it bears noting, has also criticized Obama from time to time.


You need to brush up on your definitions of trolling.

A concerned troll is a troll who will act like a member of the group that the troll is attempting to troll. I am not acting like a person who is on the left now am I?
 
2012-12-01 10:59:14 AM  
Wait, I thought we lefties were told Whoopie Goldberg was our chief leftist humorist.

Or was it Cindy Sheehan, I forget. Oh I got it, Sean Penn is carrying the torch these days, that's right.

I'll have to listen to Rushbo Monday to find out for sure. Then I can align my political leanings accordingly.
 
2012-12-01 11:18:49 AM  
Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "Obama is bad for Israel"

Conservatives: "HAHA! YOU SUCKERS THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO BE BAD FOR ISRAEL!"
 
2012-12-01 11:23:56 AM  

ToxicMunkee: SundaesChild: Of course he is. It is what he does. He doesn't think of himself as a liberal. Only Conservatives think that of him.

Because if you're not with them, then you worship Obama. There are no other choices.


That's only true if yur a idiot
 
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2012-12-01 11:36:49 AM  

cman: ToxicMunkee: SundaesChild: Of course he is. It is what he does. He doesn't think of himself as a liberal. Only Conservatives think that of him.

Because if you're not with them, then you worship Obama. There are no other choices.

Just like if you are against him, you are a Republican. There are no other parties.


None that matter, no.
 
2012-12-01 11:40:15 AM  

RminusQ: Who, it bears noting, has also criticized Obama from time to time.


Yeah, that whole thing gets conveniently forgotten. After all, it completely screws up the rhetoric.
 
2012-12-01 12:03:46 PM  
God damn it, why do all the threads where I make an ass out of myself go green?
 
2012-12-01 12:12:27 PM  

cman: God damn it, why do all the threads where I make an ass out of myself go green?


Law of averages: if you are an ass 100% of the time...

;)
 
2012-12-01 12:16:54 PM  

GAT_00: St_Francis_P: I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.

Yeah, I've never said once that I was pissed about that. *snort*

I still think it is a crime, a particularly heinous one, that the President executed an American without a trial. Not that any of the other lives are worth any less, but an American is specifically guaranteed a trial.


Wars usually don't have time to set up a trial for each soldier who gets killed.

Perhaps he should have surrendered to the authorities for said trial?
 
2012-12-01 12:21:29 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: St_Francis_P: I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.

Yeah, I've never said once that I was pissed about that. *snort*

I still think it is a crime, a particularly heinous one, that the President executed an American without a trial. Not that any of the other lives are worth any less, but an American is specifically guaranteed a trial.

Wars usually don't have time to set up a trial for each soldier who gets killed.

Perhaps he should have surrendered to the authorities for said trial?


And why do the police bother arresting people? It's just a waste of time, if we think they're guilty, they're guilty. Just shoot them down in the street.

That's what you sound like.
 
2012-12-01 12:36:13 PM  

St_Francis_P: left of Stalin


Stalin was not particularly leftist. He basically replaced the bourgeois with a self-serving bureaucracy that continued to alienate the working class from the means of production and the products of their labor.

The "communist" system he setup was more like a really crappy form of totalitarianism, and was arguably leftist in name only, more closely resembling fascism, particularly with all the propaganda about "the motherland."

It's possible to trace a more or less continuous style of authoritarian control in Russia from the Tsars all the way to the modern day, with only a slight hiccup between the time of the revolution and Lenin's death. Those in power called it something different, and then used the same tools to beat down dissent.
 
2012-12-01 12:39:02 PM  

GAT_00: Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: St_Francis_P: I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.

Yeah, I've never said once that I was pissed about that. *snort*

I still think it is a crime, a particularly heinous one, that the President executed an American without a trial. Not that any of the other lives are worth any less, but an American is specifically guaranteed a trial.

Wars usually don't have time to set up a trial for each soldier who gets killed.

Perhaps he should have surrendered to the authorities for said trial?

And why do the police bother arresting people? It's just a waste of time, if we think they're guilty, they're guilty. Just shoot them down in the street.

That's what you sound like.


Slight difference between War and policing.

But if someone is shooting at the cops,I'd hope they would be allowed to shoot back.

War means you kill other people in a way that lessens the number of loss on your side. That means sending an Unmanned drone to shoot a person who is in the company and acting with the enemy.

Is it pretty? Is it fair? No- it's war. And war is hell.

In those cases, Obama had gotten permission from the host country to operate.

In the Iranian case: they are right to shoot it down. An Bill Mahr is right for mocking Obama for asking it back.
 
2012-12-01 12:47:59 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: But if someone is shooting at the cops,I'd hope they would be allowed to shoot back.


When Al-Awlaki was killed, he was not engaged in any action against the US. He was not attacking Americans. And nothing he has been claimed to have done has been proved.

Yet you defend his summary execution.
 
2012-12-01 12:51:27 PM  

GAT_00: Yet you defend his summary execution.


I'd say "assassination".
 
2012-12-01 12:55:09 PM  
Also Bill Maher sucks.
 
2012-12-01 01:19:44 PM  

GAT_00: Darth_Lukecash: But if someone is shooting at the cops,I'd hope they would be allowed to shoot back.

When Al-Awlaki was killed, he was not engaged in any action against the US. He was not attacking Americans. And nothing he has been claimed to have done has been proved.

Yet you defend his summary execution.


The man called for Jhad against the United States- he recruited people for Al Quesa. He helped plan several attacks- including the infamous underwear bomber.

Oh. And according to Wikki
The Yemeni government began trying him in absentia in November 2010, for plotting to kill foreigners and being a member of al-Qaeda. A Yemeni judge ordered that he be captured "dead or alive".[26][27]

And where was he killed?

Oh dear, Yemen.

The guy wasn't a saint, had a trial ands was actively helping Al Queda in Yemen.

It's a bloody war. Not civilization. Normally I agree with a lot if what you say, but the point is this: Liberals don't agree on every thing!
 
2012-12-01 01:26:11 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Liberals don't agree on every thing!


And no real liberal would defend the summary execution of someone who was not currently engaged in hostile acts. There is no such thing as justice without a trial. You're part of the problem.

Darth_Lukecash: The guy wasn't a saint, had a trial ands was actively helping Al Queda in Yemen.


Darth_Lukecash: He helped plan several attacks


This has never been conclusively proved. Of course, that would take a trial, which he was denied and you're defending. You're contradicting yourself. That you cannot see that is also why you are the problem.
 
2012-12-01 01:26:49 PM  

cman:

You need to brush up on your definitions of trolling.


Not this time. You started by waltzing and announcing a strawman scenario as if it was fact. You decided to frame the debate that you wanted to have, regardless of that fact that no one holds that position. You hijacked any reasoned conversation from that point on.

That's trolling, whether you meant to or not.
 
2012-12-01 01:34:17 PM  

vartian: cman:

You need to brush up on your definitions of trolling.

Not this time. You started by waltzing and announcing a strawman scenario as if it was fact. You decided to frame the debate that you wanted to have, regardless of that fact that no one holds that position. You hijacked any reasoned conversation from that point on.

That's trolling, whether you meant to or not.


He called me a specific kind of troll, a "concerned troll". In order for one to be a "concerned troll", one must act like they are a member of a group they are trolling.

For example, I could call myself a Democrat (while I was actually a member of the Nazi party), make some great statements about Obama, but say something like "I really think we are farking this up" concerning the topic at hand.

I come waltzing on in as you say because in many threads, when one points out when Obama does something the right likes and the left hates, many left Farkers dismiss it with a "So? If it was GW doing it you wouldnt be saying it". True or not, that does not invalidate our statements of the left giving Obama a free pass on things that the left abhors
 
2012-12-01 01:50:08 PM  

cman: vartian: cman:

You need to brush up on your definitions of trolling.

Not this time. You started by waltzing and announcing a strawman scenario as if it was fact. You decided to frame the debate that you wanted to have, regardless of that fact that no one holds that position. You hijacked any reasoned conversation from that point on.

That's trolling, whether you meant to or not.

He called me a specific kind of troll, a "concerned troll". In order for one to be a "concerned troll", one must act like they are a member of a group they are trolling.

For example, I could call myself a Democrat (while I was actually a member of the Nazi party), make some great statements about Obama, but say something like "I really think we are farking this up" concerning the topic at hand.

I come waltzing on in as you say because in many threads, when one points out when Obama does something the right likes and the left hates, many left Farkers dismiss it with a "So? If it was GW in the White House you would be in favor of the action". True or not, that does not invalidate our statements of the left giving Obama a free pass on things that the left abhors


WHoops, my bad. Fixt for meaning
 
2012-12-01 02:08:12 PM  

GAT_00: Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: St_Francis_P: I'll add, a lot of actual leftists aren't happy about the drone attacks, and aren't afraid to say so.

Yeah, I've never said once that I was pissed about that. *snort*

I still think it is a crime, a particularly heinous one, that the President executed an American without a trial. Not that any of the other lives are worth any less, but an American is specifically guaranteed a trial.

Wars usually don't have time to set up a trial for each soldier who gets killed.

Perhaps he should have surrendered to the authorities for said trial?

And why do the police bother arresting people? It's just a waste of time, if we think they're guilty, they're guilty. Just shoot them down in the street.

That's what you sound like.


You sound like fleeing suspects who don't turn themselves in are never shot and/or killed. American citizens, no less!
 
2012-12-01 02:10:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: You sound like fleeing suspects who don't turn themselves in are never shot and/or killed. American citizens, no less!


I like how you conclude that I would think that was a good thing. What leap of logic you'd need to do that, I don't have a farking clue considering it is completely inconsistent with anything I've ever said, snark aside.
 
2012-12-01 02:12:11 PM  

cman: Remember when the election was coming up the left said shiat like "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and letting Israel do whatever the fark they want"?



No, I don't remember that. Do you remember that?
 
2012-12-01 02:15:00 PM  

thamike: cman: Remember when the election was coming up the left said shiat like "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and letting Israel do whatever the fark they want"?

No, I don't remember that. Do you remember that?


I voted for Jill Stein, so not really.
 
2012-12-01 02:15:18 PM  

cman: A concerned troll is a troll who will act like a member of the group that the troll is attempting to troll.


Really? I thought concern trolling was feigning concern about something that the troll thinks his target should be concerned about but isn't. Like when right wing farkers suddenly find themselves concerned about GITMO and drone strikes.
 
2012-12-01 02:19:16 PM  

cman: Surprise, morans. Obama isn't your liberal hero.


I'll be sure to pass that on to anyone who thinks of Obama like that.

If I ever actually meet one.
 
2012-12-01 02:20:27 PM  
At least he's talking about Obama's problematic foreign policy. The Obama asskissers at MSNBC should take note.
 
2012-12-01 02:26:37 PM  

coco ebert: At least he's talking about Obama's problematic foreign policy. The Obama asskissers at MSNBC should take note.


You mean other than Rachel Maddow? Because she talks about drones a lot. Actually, others do, too, but not as much as her.
 
2012-12-01 02:33:31 PM  

thamike: cman: Remember when the election was coming up the left said shiat like "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and letting Israel do whatever the fark they want"?

No, I don't remember that. Do you remember that?


That's one of those things that "the left" never really said beyond probably a few isolated incidents. But the Fair & Balanced media like to pick out some terrible thing that happened once very far away and you never would have heard about and turn it into something "they" are doing.

Like when a small town Mayor in rural Idaho, or Wyoming or something tells the Church that they'll have to put up their nativity scene someplace other than the lawn in front of the courthouse, and FOX puts out a War on Christmas™ News Alert.
 
2012-12-01 02:46:17 PM  

GAT_00: Darth_Lukecash: Liberals don't agree on every thing!

And no real liberal would defend the summary execution of someone who was not currently engaged in hostile acts. There is no such thing as justice without a trial. You're part of the problem.

Darth_Lukecash: The guy wasn't a saint, had a trial ands was actively helping Al Queda in Yemen.

Darth_Lukecash: He helped plan several attacks

This has never been conclusively proved. Of course, that would take a trial, which he was denied and you're defending. You're contradicting yourself. That you cannot see that is also why you are the problem.


Did it happen in the United States? No. He was killed in Yemen.

He was tried in Yemen. Just because he's a US Citezen, doesn't guarantee him any special protections.

And he was found guilty. He was ordered to brought in dead or alive.

Yemen military itself tried to kill him on several occasions.

He should have left Yemen.

Or better yet- never left the United Srates. He got off on a fraud charge because statute of limitation ran out. Had he stayed here, he might have been under suspicion, but he might have never been out on Trial. He would be alive.

For someone who was not involved in terrorism, it was rather strange he nearly got killed while hanging out with Al Queda operatives in an Yemen air strike.

This is war. It's ugly, but it is what it is.
 
2012-12-01 02:51:42 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: That's one of those things that "the left" never really said beyond probably a few isolated incidents. But the Fair & Balanced media like to pick out some terrible thing that happened once very far away and you never would have heard about and turn it into something "they" are doing.

Like when a small town Mayor in rural Idaho, or Wyoming or something tells the Church that they'll have to put up their nativity scene someplace other than the lawn in front of the courthouse, and FOX puts out a War on Christmas™ News Alert.


It must be surreal to live in an echo chamber. I was actually surprised at the collective dumbfounded shock the GOP exhibited after their completely expected defeat this election. At first, I wasn't taken aback. But when I realized the reaction was genuine, I felt what was probably the closest to pity for them that I'm capable of.
 
2012-12-01 02:54:52 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: And he was found guilty. He was ordered to brought in dead or alive.


Ah, a trial in absentia. What justice.

Are you just going to keep changing your argument completely when I reject your premise and continue with "I'm right, you're wrong, QED" ad infinateum or are you going to actually defend a point you've made previously at one point?
 
2012-12-01 02:59:38 PM  

GAT_00: Are you just going to keep changing your argument completely when I reject your premise and continue with "I'm right, you're wrong, QED" ad infinateum or are you going to actually defend a point you've made previously at one point?


Maybe you should stop rejecting his premise and continuing with "I'm right, you're wrong, QED" ad infinateum [sic].
 
2012-12-01 03:01:07 PM  

GAT_00: And no real liberal would defend the summary execution of someone who was not currently engaged in hostile acts


And neither would a true Scotsman.
 
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