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(New York Daily News)   Bedroom of Long Island boy, 6, killed by bus crash was illegally converted from a porch. See you stupid people, this why you don't build anything to house the people you love and let buses crash through your house. Stupid, stupid people   (nydailynews.com) divider line 18
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2012-12-01 02:09:25 PM
7 votes:
The fact that the porch was converted from a porch to a bedroom without a permit has no relevance, unless you are telling me that as a result of a permit applicaction the city would have said "no, you cant convert it to a bedroom. A bus might crash into it and kill a kid." I have no doubt they would have said no to such a conversion but I find it highly improbable that concerns about a vehicle hitting the house and killing the occupant of the bedroom would have entered into the equation at all.

This is just one of those shiatty things that happens in life. The kid may just as well have been killed by a plane falling into his bedroom in the back of the house, or if the bus had more momentum and he were in a different spot, killing him in the front room.

More importantly, what business is it of the city if you convert YOUR OWN porch to a bedroom? That is the homeowners call. Screw the permit requirements. Government needs to get the heck out of peoples lives and quit being so unnecessarily intrusive.
2012-12-01 02:07:15 PM
7 votes:
I see, so that's how the city plans to avoid responsibility for the child's death. Next step, press charges on the family - to be eventually dropped if the family can afford a lawyer and force the city to actually go down the chain of ownership to find when the modification happened. And, just like that, it's now all about the fault of the family/house/structure/owners and nothing to do with a careening city bus.
2012-12-01 02:01:21 PM
7 votes:
What's the point of this article? Need to file this under "who the fark cares if it was a porch or bedroom". Poor kid was still run down in his own house.
2012-12-01 02:05:16 PM
4 votes:
This is important. If they had applied for and received the appropriate permits they wouldn't be now hearing that the conversion was not permitted. Which changes everything, of course.

Wait, what?

/dealing with construction permits right now
//doesn't matter what state or city you're in
///f*ck those guys. In the ear. With a permit.
2012-12-01 02:40:39 PM
3 votes:

offmymeds: WTF? I submitted this same story from the same source several days ago. Is it the $5/mo? Is that it?


Did you submit it with a headline that was written correctly? Sometimes I think they greenlight poorly written headlines just so we'll come in and make fun of it.

But it's in really poor taste. There's nothing funny about converted bus-shaped boy bedrooms crashing into six.
2012-12-01 03:49:44 PM
2 votes:

Ima4nic8or: The fact that the porch was converted from a porch to a bedroom without a permit has no relevance, unless you are telling me that as a result of a permit applicaction the city would have said "no, you cant convert it to a bedroom. A bus might crash into it and kill a kid." I have no doubt they would have said no to such a conversion but I find it highly improbable that concerns about a vehicle hitting the house and killing the occupant of the bedroom would have entered into the equation at all.

This is just one of those shiatty things that happens in life. The kid may just as well have been killed by a plane falling into his bedroom in the back of the house, or if the bus had more momentum and he were in a different spot, killing him in the front room.

More importantly, what business is it of the city if you convert YOUR OWN porch to a bedroom? That is the homeowners call. Screw the permit requirements. Government needs to get the heck out of peoples lives and quit being so unnecessarily intrusive.


When I buy or rent i don't want to worry that people can do whatever they want to a house without any codes. Building codes are a public safety issue. Your libertarian world is a place like Haiti. You see how that goes in an earthquake. If you want to live in sh@thole ghetto you have the whole third world to choose from.
2012-12-01 02:19:32 PM
2 votes:
At least the boy no longer has to suffer, while the rest of us may have to put up with this idiot submitter's work for the rest of our lives.
2012-12-01 02:06:43 PM
2 votes:
BADLY WRITTEN HEADLINE!!!! PUNCH BABIES!!!
2012-12-01 02:03:31 PM
2 votes:
But if he had been run down on his own porch while using it, legally, as a porch should be used, on a porch swing or whatever, then maybe his grieving parents might have a case!
2012-12-01 08:31:38 PM
1 votes:
The reason for permits, other than to boost your property tax, is to make sure you build to code. Putting in a "homeowner's special" that isn't to code might be all fine for the home owner, but the house is going to get sold to someone else eventually if it survives. It would suck to buy a house and find out the hard way it wasn't safe to live in.
2012-12-01 03:23:36 PM
1 votes:
The law doesn't work that way. For example, if I'm at fault in a car accident with an unlicensed driver. It doesn't suddenly become the other guys fault because he wasn't supposed to be driving.
2012-12-01 03:09:28 PM
1 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: A Shambling Mound: This is important. If they had applied for and received the appropriate permits they wouldn't be now hearing that the conversion was not permitted. Which changes everything, of course.

Wait, what?

/dealing with construction permits right now
//doesn't matter what state or city you're in
///f*ck those guys. In the ear. With a permit.

How the fark do you know the current residents are responsible for the conversion? Fark you. In the ear. With a broken beer bottle.


I don't.

I also don't have any idea what you think I was trying to say but I have a strong suspicion it has nothing whatsoever to do with what I actually said.

The body of my post was sarcastic mocking of an article that says nothing of worth whatsoever and my slashies were intended to indicate my intense dislike of the pants-on-head retarded permitting process for recon of existing structures within my municipality.

Don't hurt yourself with that bottle. It's sharp.
2012-12-01 02:54:59 PM
1 votes:
An illegal bedroom. How did we let our government get so out of control?

/rhetorical question. I know the answer. It's for our own safety. And our money.
2012-12-01 02:36:39 PM
1 votes:
WTF? I submitted this same story from the same source several days ago. Is it the $5/mo? Is that it?
GBB
2012-12-01 02:21:45 PM
1 votes:
Porches are a home's crumple zone. It's like putting passengers on the hood or truck of your car.
2012-12-01 02:11:51 PM
1 votes:
Well I guess that's good news for the driver/bus company who did not keep control of the bus, eh?
2012-12-01 02:07:05 PM
1 votes:
I am from Long Island.

My son's room was walled off from the garage.

I wanted to have a cinderblock partition to prevent an accidental acceleration from a car crashing through the wall. I was overruled & plain particle board was used.

Luckily, all is moot as Hurricane Sandy completely destroyed my house. The End.
2012-12-01 02:01:19 PM
1 votes:
How do you create a boy out of a porch? Unless it's Pinocchio.
 
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