Mija: Ima4nic8or: The fact that the porch was converted from a porch to a bedroom without a permit has no relevance, unless you are telling me that as a result of a permit applicaction the city would have said "no, you cant convert it to a bedroom. A bus might crash into it and kill a kid." I have no doubt they would have said no to such a conversion but I find it highly improbable that concerns about a vehicle hitting the house and killing the occupant of the bedroom would have entered into the equation at all.This is just one of those shiatty things that happens in life. The kid may just as well have been killed by a plane falling into his bedroom in the back of the house, or if the bus had more momentum and he were in a different spot, killing him in the front room.More importantly, what business is it of the city if you convert YOUR OWN porch to a bedroom? That is the homeowners call. Screw the permit requirements. Government needs to get the heck out of peoples lives and quit being so unnecessarily intrusive.When I buy or rent i don't want to worry that people can do whatever they want to a house without any codes. Building codes are a public safety issue. Your libertarian world is a place like Haiti. You see how that goes in an earthquake. If you want to live in sh@thole ghetto you have the whole third world to choose from.
LemSkroob: Ima4nic8or:More importantly, what business is it of the city if you convert YOUR OWN porch to a bedroom? That is the homeowners call. Screw the permit requirements. Government needs to get the heck out of peoples lives and quit being so unnecessarily intrusive.Right. Take a street that was designed for a certain number of residents, and then just pack em in beyond that. Who needs adequate sewer, water, electrical, and gas service?????and its OK if the school up the street has 40 kids in a class, right?/Zoning. Its not there to screw you.
Awesome T-Shirt: Considering I drive through Hempstead every day for my commute, the blame easily lies on the pedestrian who crossed the road. Can't tell you how many times I've had to slam on my breaks because the people there just cross the road without looking both ways, in busy traffic. On top of that, they take their sweet time getting across the road too.http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/935948-black-people-aren t -looking-when-crossing.html
buckler: Hm. In one house I lived in, my friend's dad converted a storage area into a bedroom by installing a large picture window in one wall, installing lighting and carpet. Stealth install with no permit, but he was a contractor, so he made sure everything was up to code in case of inspection.
pxlboy: pedobearapproved: BADLY WRITTEN HEADLINE!!!! PUNCH BABIES!!!This. I had to re-read it a few times before it made sense.-1 Subby for badly-written headlineGo sit in the corner and think about what you have done.
E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: the bus killed the bedroom that was driven by a 6 year old porch, got it?
hbk72777: These houses are common in many parts of LI. The porches are basically like rooms anyway, with a roof, half walls all the way around the bottom half, and windows all the way around the top half. They usually aren't heated though, and it's probably illegal to sleep in them (though my cousin used one as a room that was converted, back in the 80's).This is more about who's going to get sued more, the bus company or the owner of the house, that's all.
Ima4nic8or: Permits, zoning laws, inspection requirements, etc are mosty a means for city, state an local governments to get your money (and in my opinion a bit of an egotistical desire on their part to rule every aspect of your life).An example of the absurdity of this crap: A few years back I had to have a water heater replaced so I called up Sears. After paying the obscene cost of a new water heater I scheduled installation and was told that I had to pay $60 to have the county come out an inspect the installation. This seemed curious so I asked if their installers were licensed. It turns out they were and them some. Among other things they were licensed by the state to install water heaters, having taken the appropriate contractors tests and whatnot. Now tell me, if the state licensed them then why on Earth does anyone from a government agency need to inspect their work? What the heck is the point of the license if somene has to check their work anyway? That must be one easy test/certification if you cant trust the person to do the work correctly even after they obtain the lisence.Even more offensive, the county guy came to my house (from a whopping 4 miles away (probably burning $1 of gas in the process), walked into my garage, stopped about 10 ft from the water heater, glanced at it for about 3 seconds, turned around and muttered "its fine" as he left. That was the inspection that I paid $60 for!! I dont know about you but for $60 I expect a bit more work. At least two or three hours. Not to mention, if the county wants to inspect some aspect of my house then they should pay for it themselves. I didnt ask for the "service."
jankyboy: What's the point of this article? Need to file this under "who the fark cares if it was a porch or bedroom". Poor kid was still run down in his own house.
badhatharry: hbk72777: These houses are common in many parts of LI. The porches are basically like rooms anyway, with a roof, half walls all the way around the bottom half, and windows all the way around the top half. They usually aren't heated though, and it's probably illegal to sleep in them (though my cousin used one as a room that was converted, back in the 80's).This is more about who's going to get sued more, the bus company or the owner of the house, that's all.Jesus Christ. It's not ILLEGAL to sleep on your front lawn. I would advise a tent in winter.
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