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(The New York Times)   Bloomberg: Those boardwalks Sandy tore up? They'll have to go. We're replacing them with expensive, ugly concrete from mobbed-up contractors. You'll be paying for it because fark you. Now drop that soda   (nytimes.com) divider line 29
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2012-12-01 01:45:34 PM
8 votes:
You know what would work great? Boardwalks made out of recycled plastic. It's like pressed wood, except it's old plastic bottles and wood scraps. It lasts forever. I first saw them in Yellowstone Park many years ago, but now I see they're using that stuff to make picnic tables and all kinds of things. And you can make it look like wood if you want to.

www.achilles-expert.com 

Concrete is ugly as fark.
2012-12-01 02:23:20 PM
4 votes:

182: yeah, what we need is more plastic for our oceans to swallow.


Oh, NOW it's a problem. Is it a problem when 10,000 oceanfront houses are washed into the ocean, or when we build entire cities on river banks, then throw all our trash and sewage into the river? Naw---that's just the way it is. Keep building. But don't you dare think of building a plastic boardwalk that might wash away in a hurricane.
2012-12-01 01:40:40 PM
4 votes:
Call me crazy but a concrete structure sounds more durable than WOODEN BOARDWALK
2012-12-01 02:18:21 PM
2 votes:
Bloomberg must wake up every day and ask himself 'How can I be a complete douchebag and all around piece of shiat today?' There is absolutely nothing redeeming about this paternalistic, authoritarian piece of shiat
2012-12-01 02:05:20 PM
2 votes:

peewinkle: Imagine that you grew up in a beautiful, rustic log cabin that was built 100+ years ago. Then it was destroyed. So you replace it with with a poured-wall concrete abode. Get the picture?


Imagine my tax dollars are going to repair a damaged structure. They should be used in the smartest way possible both to restore the structure ans ensure against future damages, not just to mollify your fee-fees.
2012-12-01 01:52:00 PM
2 votes:
www.examiner.com
Seems appropriate in this thread.
2012-12-02 11:25:14 AM
1 votes:
Walking is so last century


www.sksigns.co.uk
2012-12-01 11:03:15 PM
1 votes:
Right. Gotta do all concrete. Because the concrete stood up to Sandy sooooo much better.

3.bp.blogspot.com 

SOOOOO much better.
2012-12-01 06:27:59 PM
1 votes:
How about making the structure itself out of durable concrete and steel to prevent a storm surge from destroying it, but covering the surface of it with wood (or convincing wood analogue) planks to preserve the attractive look of a wooden boardwalk?
2012-12-01 03:53:12 PM
1 votes:

TheDirtyNacho: Sandy was only a Category 1.


We covered this 52 times already.

Category refers to wind speed. Sandy was HUGE. As in, it was a much LARGER hurricane than most. More water was displaced than would have been by a smaller storm, even if the winds were blowing harder. More displaced water = larger storm surge = more damage.
2012-12-01 03:46:28 PM
1 votes:

Uncle Tractor: Well, there are going to be many more storms like this. They can either build something that'll survive the next Sandy, or build something that won't. Besides, concrete isn't necessarily ugly.

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came here to say this.

I've seen some nice stamped concrete that can be a compromise between the two:
static.concretenetwork.com

/hot like blacktop on a beachfront sidewalk
2012-12-01 03:41:40 PM
1 votes:
2012-12-01 03:17:56 PM
1 votes:
It is well known that the mafia controls the concrete in New York City. That is the reason the concrete costs more here than anywhere else in the country. It is also the reason that Yankee Stadium cost so much to build. And yeah all this is, is about who will get the contract.
2012-12-01 02:55:23 PM
1 votes:
Well, so many people clearly didn't RTFA.

Long before the storm, Mr. Bloomberg declared that New York City would phase out its use of endangered tropical hardwoods, featured on the Coney Island and Rockaway boardwalks. But a 2011 plan to replace parts of the Coney Island Boardwalk with concrete and recycled plastic lumber stirred resistance from local residents who wanted to retain the authenticity of the wood.

So the wood is endangered to begin with, that's good enough reason to stop using it.

I feel the point is moot. People shouldn't be building much in the Rockaways. They'll just get washed out the next time a hurricane comes along. Sandy was only a Category 1. Fool me once mother nature...
2012-12-01 02:22:29 PM
1 votes:

cmb53208: Bloomberg must wake up every day and ask himself 'How can I be a complete douchebag and all around piece of shiat today?' There is absolutely nothing redeeming about this paternalistic, authoritarian piece of shiat


The fact that NY seems to love picking babysitters for mayors is one major reason why I wouldn't want to live there.
2012-12-01 02:08:29 PM
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: 182: cryinoutloud: You know what would work great? Boardwalks made out of recycled plastic. It's like pressed wood, except it's old plastic bottles and wood scraps. It lasts forever. I first saw them in Yellowstone Park many years ago, but now I see they're using that stuff to make picnic tables and all kinds of things. And you can make it look like wood if you want to.

[www.achilles-expert.com image 539x379] 

Concrete is ugly as fark.

yeah, what we need is more plastic for our oceans to swallow.

I didn't realize they'd be throwing that boardwalk into the ocean.


That is where the old one ended up.
2012-12-01 02:04:14 PM
1 votes:
We're replacing them with expensive, ugly concrete from mobbed-up contractors. You'll be paying for it because fark you.

This is a problem? This is precisely how public sector unions operate and how the Democrats they support treat tax payers.
2012-12-01 01:57:39 PM
1 votes:

182: cryinoutloud: You know what would work great? Boardwalks made out of recycled plastic. It's like pressed wood, except it's old plastic bottles and wood scraps. It lasts forever. I first saw them in Yellowstone Park many years ago, but now I see they're using that stuff to make picnic tables and all kinds of things. And you can make it look like wood if you want to.

[www.achilles-expert.com image 539x379] 

Concrete is ugly as fark.

yeah, what we need is more plastic for our oceans to swallow.


I didn't realize they'd be throwing that boardwalk into the ocean.
2012-12-01 01:54:20 PM
1 votes:
Well, there are going to be many more storms like this. They can either build something that'll survive the next Sandy, or build something that won't. Besides, concrete isn't necessarily ugly.

upload.wikimedia.org
2012-12-01 01:50:42 PM
1 votes:

Last Man on Earth: Agreed. I'm nowhere near there, so I maybe I'm missing something, but right after a hurricane, it seems like replacing the fragile wood with wood-paneled concrete would be a much smarter play. Is there some amazingly irreplaceable element to the wood that I'm just not seeing?


Imagine that you grew up in a beautiful, rustic log cabin that was built 100+ years ago. Then it was destroyed. So you replace it with with a poured-wall concrete abode. Get the picture?

/cripes, it's New Jersey and New York, let them have SOMETHING nice to look at/ walk on.
//dammit, now I want a hot dog
2012-12-01 01:49:52 PM
1 votes:

Rug Doctor: If they spent millions of tax dollars rebuilding the boardwalk, a lot of these people would be railing about the irresponsible squandering of money.

Also, this isn't the twin towers -- since when did the Jersey shore become a national treasure that must be memorialized at all costs?


Holy crap, when did New Jersey invade NYC?
2012-12-01 01:47:02 PM
1 votes:

A Shambling Mound: Cambrian: Call me crazy but a concrete structure sounds more durable than WOODEN BOARDWALK

Because the original wood one didn't last very long at all.


Not when faced with a low to middling hurricane.

It's like someone said, "You know how we've had two small to mid hurricanes recently? Why don't we rebuild so that things could withstand even worse than those."

JUST LIKE IT!
2012-12-01 01:47:02 PM
1 votes:

Rug Doctor: If they spent millions of tax dollars rebuilding the boardwalk, a lot of these people would be railing about the irresponsible squandering of money.

Also, this isn't the twin towers -- since when did the Jersey shore become a national treasure that must be memorialized at all costs?


It's not New Jersey.
2012-12-01 01:46:33 PM
1 votes:

ZAZ: What's so special about tropical hardwood? Can you put cheap, frequently-replaced wood strips over a durable concrete-and-steel structure?


THIS. Best of both worlds. Not quite the same, but a fair, logical compromise.
2012-12-01 01:45:19 PM
1 votes:

Cambrian: Call me crazy but a concrete structure sounds more durable than WOODEN BOARDWALK


Because the original wood one didn't last very long at all.
2012-12-01 01:43:48 PM
1 votes:
Under the concrete
Out of the sun
Under the concrete
I got shot with a gun
Under the concrete
People walking up top
Under the concrete
Why'd I snitch to the cops
Under the concrete
Concrete
2012-12-01 01:40:31 PM
1 votes:
Dang! Bloomberg had a chance to do something really cool. like replace them with a long tunnelled moon walk.
2012-12-01 01:40:03 PM
1 votes:

Rug Doctor: If they spent millions of tax dollars rebuilding the boardwalk, a lot of these people would be railing about the irresponsible squandering of money.

Also, this isn't the twin towers -- since when did the Jersey shore become a national treasure that must be memorialized at all costs?


You just aren't grasping the situation...
2012-12-01 01:38:57 PM
1 votes:
If they spent millions of tax dollars rebuilding the boardwalk, a lot of these people would be railing about the irresponsible squandering of money.

Also, this isn't the twin towers -- since when did the Jersey shore become a national treasure that must be memorialized at all costs?
 
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