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(YouTube)   Jaco Pastorius born today in 1951. "Birdland" from 1978. That is all   (youtube.com) divider line 35
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2012-12-01 12:39:35 PM
Sheer brilliance. 
 
2012-12-01 02:11:46 PM
Good ol' one finger Jaco.
 
2012-12-01 02:31:04 PM
 
2012-12-01 03:00:04 PM
I saw Jaco live at the Lone Star Cafe in NYC back in the mid-80s. He was a wreck by then but could still play. Very talented and unique player but also a sad figure.
 
2012-12-01 03:09:51 PM
I know nothing about jazz but I was Frank Gant's neighbor for a while. He has some kind of neurological or muscular disorder. I had no idea who he was until I was chatting with someone from the building at the bar. Amazing talent. Nice guy.

/end csb
 
2012-12-01 03:10:41 PM
Can't hear the name without getting The Chicken stuck in my head for about a week.

/ not necessarily a bad thing
 
2012-12-01 03:22:58 PM

Winterlight: Sheer brilliance. 


I'm sorry. While I know that we all have different taste in music, this is not in any way brilliant. Weather Report is the band that blazed the trail which led to Kenny G. If you like your jazz played on keyboards, may I suggest Fats Waller, Dave Brubeck or Pinetop Perkins.

/Don't worry about my lawn...
 
2012-12-01 03:36:28 PM
Jaco was such a farking beast. I remember being a young bass player around 15 years old in 1990. I was coming home from school and playing like 6 hours a day. I got turned on to Jaco and coudln't get my jaw off the floor after hearing Donna Lee and Portrait of Tracy. Hearing somebody that sick makes you second guess your choice of instrument. I hve been listening to a lot of Jaco lately and he is no less amazing 20 years after I first heard him.
 
2012-12-01 03:50:34 PM
 
2012-12-01 03:59:58 PM
Having played bass for the last 20 years, I love Jaco and can't deny the influence he's had on me and my playing. Buy,... he's overrated.
 
2012-12-01 04:00:50 PM

HighHardOne: Winterlight: Sheer brilliance. 

I'm sorry. While I know that we all have different taste in music, this is not in any way brilliant. Weather Report is the band that blazed the trail which led to Kenny G. If you like your jazz played on keyboards, may I suggest Fats Waller, Dave Brubeck or Pinetop Perkins.

/Don't worry about my lawn...


jaco was a great bass player, but... THIS.

give me miles, coltrane, horace silver, blakey, timmons, mulligan, et al. any day.
 
2012-12-01 04:01:16 PM

cevarius: Having played bass for the last 20 years, I love Jaco and can't deny the influence he's had on me and my playing. Buy,... he's overrated.


But,... he's overrated. Not buy...
 
2012-12-01 04:03:48 PM

HighHardOne: While I know that we all have different taste in music, this is not in any way brilliant.


I respectfully disagree. I never had the chance to see Jaco play in person, but I do believe his playing, especially with Weather Report, was indeed brilliant.
 
Your tastes may vary from mine, but that doesn't mean I think your tastes are bad. Just different.
 
2012-12-01 04:04:27 PM

cevarius: overrated


Worst criticism around.
 
2012-12-01 04:39:12 PM

HighHardOne: I'm sorry. While I know that we all have different taste in music, this is not in any way brilliant. Weather Report is the band that blazed the trail which led to Kenny G. If you like your jazz played on keyboards, may I suggest Fats Waller, Dave Brubeck or Pinetop Perkins.


Jaco fits pretty squarely into modern/fusion (which ultimately led to the abomination of smooth jazz), however he could bop just as hard as Miles or Bird when he wanted to.

He was also a hell of a sideman
 
2012-12-01 04:39:27 PM
I was into Weather Report for awhile, but fusion as a genre is pretty iffy - like progressive rock, there is stuff that is just utter cheese, and ages terribly, and then there is some excellent music. Knowing the difference takes a lot of time and listening.

This is actually a poor showing of Jaco - keyboardist Joe Zawinul actually wrote Birdland, but Pastorius wrote some good pieces like Barbary Coast and Punk Jazz (which are way better examples of his talent).

If you want to hear Pastorius play other people's music and really add something to it, listen to Hejira (the album) by Joni Mitchell. Great, great use of this sort of fusion sound, compared to which, Birdland sounds like utter cheese.
 
2012-12-01 04:45:21 PM
Link The Trio Of Doom.

/nothing smooth about it
//sucks at encoding
 
2012-12-01 04:51:11 PM
Jaco was beaten to death. Let's hope someone does that to 99% of prog too.

/bass player
//Jaco IS overrated
 
2012-12-01 05:08:43 PM
That drummer was more fur than man
 
2012-12-01 05:46:37 PM
Why are so many truly gifted artists cursed with personality disorders??
 
2012-12-01 06:52:18 PM

Gunny Highway: cevarius: overrated

Worst criticism around.


I will defend the over-rated monkier. While I don't think Jaco is over-rated, it's a term that people take offense to all too often. For example, I always cite Sublime as being one of the most over-rated bands of all time. They released one great album, and one decent album -- but to a lot of people that grew up in that era they're one of the greatest bands of all time. I think they're incredibly over-rated, but it doesn't mean I don't like their music and they're not good.

Jaco was a game-changer, so for that he's not over-rated.
 
2012-12-01 07:06:24 PM
Nice choice. I would have gone with Portrait Of Tracy, but enjoyed that nonetheless.
 
2012-12-01 07:37:51 PM
Came for 'The Trio of Doom' link.
 
2012-12-01 07:46:35 PM

HighHardOne: Weather Report is the band that blazed the trail which led to Kenny G.


the origins of lite jazz predate bands like Weather Report. And indeed really has nothing to do with fusion bands at all.
 
2012-12-01 08:14:27 PM
I love Jaco on Joni Michel's "shadows and light".

/hate his tone, though
 
2012-12-02 12:12:46 AM
Me and Greg Hardy (R.I.P.) would show up stoned for high school journalism class and listen to this. Think I still have it on vinyl somewhere.
 
2012-12-02 01:21:50 AM

Gunny Highway: cevarius: overrated

Worst criticism around.


This

"overrated" is shorthand for "I'm jealous".
 
2012-12-02 02:18:31 AM

gunsmack: Gunny Highway: cevarius: overrated

Worst criticism around.

This

"overrated" is shorthand for "I'm jealous".


It sure is. How can a man who has influenced so many and been the subject of so many tributes be "overrated"? Along with "it's boring", "overrated" is one of the worst and laziest criticisms there is, especially since it's almost always delivered without any kind of supporting argument.

Those of you who claim Jaco is overrated: prove it. Tell us why. Be specific. If you can't do that, then admit you're a wanker who doesn't know what he's talking about and never use the "overrated" label again. You're not qualified.
 
2012-12-02 08:41:34 AM
There's a park named for him in the little burg of Oakand Park, Florida: Jaco Pastorius Park
 
2012-12-02 09:41:58 AM
Nice blast from the past. Jaco was awesome. On that vid, though, it was great to see Zawinul on those ancient synths including my old-time favorite, the Oberheim 4-voice. What a beast to set up and keep in tune. The Arp 2600s were cool to see as well.
 
2012-12-02 08:05:20 PM
Not a fan of Weather Report as a group. But definitely a fan of almost every member of that group. Individually, they did some great work.
 
2012-12-03 07:05:56 AM

HighHardOne: Winterlight: Sheer brilliance. 

I'm sorry. While I know that we all have different taste in music, this is not in any way brilliant. Weather Report is the band that blazed the trail which led to Kenny G. If you like your jazz played on keyboards, may I suggest Fats Waller, Dave Brubeck or Pinetop Perkins.

/Don't worry about my lawn...


If it weren't for Weather Report and Return To Forever in the mid tro late 70's I wouldn't have even given jazz music any consideration. If they did nothing else they exposed the art form to untold numbers of people.
 
2012-12-03 10:19:09 AM
1) Not big into Weather Report, but Jaco was a superb musician, and not overrated.
2) I prefer Jaco's bass work with Pat Metheny.
3) Though I like some fusion, I'm primarily a fan of more "traditional" jazz. (Bird, Diz, Miles, Bill Evans, Jackie McLean, Phil Woods, etc.)
4) Kenny G sucks ass.
 
2012-12-03 01:25:15 PM
Glad this one was greenlighted.

Birdland is flashy, but Teen Town da bomb....and Jaco is the composer. Although his bassline on Shorter's Palladium is nothing short of brilliant and is my personal fave on the record. He was damned fast, but his ability as a stylist is what truly set him apart from many other virtuoso bassists. Geez, the man had style.

And when asked which other bassists he thought were great players, his answer was Sting. JP said "Sting is one playin' mother."

Oh, and in his case "overrated" is a term meaning "had more talent in one pubic hair than I will ever have".
 
2012-12-04 05:24:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-STXsuxWptk

Love me some Opus Pocus, Wayne Shorter, etc.

This did not lead to Smooth Jazz. This was real, edgy, raw and creative. They only cared about a good sound. They were not trying to fit into a genre like smooth jazz. They weren't trying to get played in an elevator.

If anything, some of Wes Montgomery's more commercial albums led to the idea of smooth jazz or making commercial success out of jazz. For Wes, he used popular tunes and a big orchestra which the masses loved. These new assholes use a "smooth sound" (basically play boring, sanitized musical lines using the same type of synthesizers and saxaphone style over and over).

Still, Wes' Incredible Jazz Guitar and Movin' Wes are amazing.
 
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