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2012-12-01 04:06:03 AM  
Should be the "dumbass" tag for Staples, IMO

3D visualization is so 1990's.

3D printing is now all about FUNCTIONAL prototyping.

A stack of glued paper ain't gonna cut it
 
2012-12-01 04:10:59 AM  
BTW, a 3D printer can now be had for $300
 
2012-12-01 07:06:43 AM  

acanuck: 3D printing is now all about FUNCTIONAL prototyping.


exactly right.

I wonder if you could substitute paper for sheets of Carbon Fibre and instead of glue use epoxy or something similar?
 
2012-12-01 08:33:17 AM  

acanuck: BTW, a 3D printer can now be had for $300


Which is probably close to what Staples will be charging for a simple 3D print job.
 
2012-12-01 09:03:25 AM  

acanuck: A stack of glued paper ain't gonna cut it


It'll be stronger than ABS or PLA, the primary substances used in commodity printing. And it uses a material that's already in Staples' supply chain.
 
2012-12-01 09:58:16 AM  
Can you print out the parts for 3d printer at staples and take it home?

/CSB: Last week my work produced its very first 3d printed production part.
 
2012-12-01 10:06:23 AM  
In other news, thousands of people are 3D printing their penises to stores all over America.
 
2012-12-01 11:20:20 AM  
Thanks for the link, Staples p.r. person.
 
2012-12-01 11:36:29 AM  

acanuck: Should be the "dumbass" tag for Staples, IMO

3D visualization is so 1990's.

3D printing is now all about FUNCTIONAL prototyping.

A stack of glued paper ain't gonna cut it


Colored, glued, paper.
I think the point here isn't just to make prototypes, but more to impress clients with tiny architectural models and trinkets to represent the product.
Selling something like a building is easier if they've got a prepainted diorama of what its going to look like.

/and to be fair, these models are being produced by people who are more accustomed to dealing with paper.
 
2012-12-01 11:38:54 AM  
From the video
"This is a glove that Michael Jackson would have died for"

D'oh!
 
2012-12-01 11:50:13 AM  
Oh good! In just a few short years I'll be able to have them print the parts for my Reprap!
 
2012-12-01 12:01:26 PM  
Does anyone else see this service as either nearly useless or short-lived? Some places (e.g. Wal-Mart) already won't print your digital photos unless you can prove you took it and that it's not copyrighted, lest they be sued. It's only a matter of time before, say, BMW sues Staples because someone reproduced an expensive factory part.
 
2012-12-01 12:04:29 PM  
3D is so yesterday.... 5D prototyping is the in thing
 
2012-12-01 12:05:32 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Does anyone else see this service as either nearly useless or short-lived? Some places (e.g. Wal-Mart) already won't print your digital photos unless you can prove you took it and that it's not copyrighted, lest they be sued. It's only a matter of time before, say, BMW sues Staples because someone reproduced an expensive factory part.


Nope... just you.

/your welcome
 
2012-12-01 12:08:17 PM  
I know we all joke, but I could see 3D printing as the precursor so some seriously world-changing technology. You now just need to buy unrefined base material and someone can email you the parts you need.
 
2012-12-01 12:15:10 PM  
friend of mine was just given a reprap to tinker with. Fun device. Curious what he's going to print first. ;p
 
2012-12-01 12:17:43 PM  

INeedAName: I know we all joke, but I could see 3D printing as the precursor so some seriously world-changing technology. You now just need to buy unrefined base material and someone can email you the parts you need.


I just bought a "XXL" titanium cartridge. I'm 3D printing 4 Olympus turbojets today for my Concorde. I say let's revive the dead fantasies of the past with the delusional beliefs of today!
 
2012-12-01 12:18:12 PM  

acanuck: BTW, a 3D printer can now be had for $300


Too bad the print quality on those is complete sh*t.

=Smidge=
 
2012-12-01 12:19:07 PM  
With these types of stories sure to be prevalent we need one of those summon cards for a certain farker.
 
2012-12-01 12:19:53 PM  
Oops too late. lol
 
2012-12-01 12:19:56 PM  
Fark that...Where's my replicator Protien Resequencer?
 
2012-12-01 12:20:06 PM  

t3knomanser: acanuck: A stack of glued paper ain't gonna cut it

It'll be stronger than ABS or PLA, the primary substances used in commodity printing. And it uses a material that's already in Staples' supply chain.


This. Depending on the glue used, it could be much superior for certain applications.
 
2012-12-01 12:25:13 PM  

lewismarktwo: Oops too late. lol


Speak of the devil....
 
2012-12-01 12:27:22 PM  

Smidge204: acanuck: BTW, a 3D printer can now be had for $300

Too bad the print quality on those is complete sh*t.

=Smidge=


What? Realism from *you*? It's the future baby! 3D printed rockets to Andromeda!

lewismarktwo: With these types of stories sure to be prevalent we need one of those summon cards for a certain farker.


You're late. I need a summon card for 3D printed paper trinkets? When you delusional fruitcakes think we're two weeks away from Star Trek because of it?

How much did society change when regular 2D printers showed up for regular people? Did everyone become a writer? Did we print out our own books? Affordable home CNC machinery has been around for decades. Anyone machine their own car engine?

Look, 3D printing is nothing more than a fad, like VR was in the '90s. Remember that? Yeah, didn't think so. VR is as dead as space "exploration". 

I played around with 3D printing for about six months. Got tired of it when I realized the other people in the hacker space were more interested in the printer when it was broken. When it was working, well, how many leaky 50$ Yoda coffee cups can you make and still find it entertaining?

It's a hobby. It's not this earth shattering technology that's gonna make you live like in "the machine stops". Geez. Is my point of view so hard to understand?

You're paying someone to make paper trinkets. It's origami for nerds with disposable income. So what?
 
2012-12-01 12:29:11 PM  

acanuck: Should be the "dumbass" tag for Staples, IMO

3D visualization is so 1990's.

3D printing is now all about FUNCTIONAL prototyping.

A stack of glued paper ain't gonna cut it


Who the hell are you to tell me what I want to print?
Not everyone is an engineer - just as many people want to print sculptures,etc.
I'm glad that 3D printing is finally taking off, less glad there are already know it all d-bags that have the market cornered on what it has to be used for.
It's nice to see major stores offering the service. There will soon be many options and places to choose from.
 
2012-12-01 12:37:31 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: It's a hobby. It's not this earth shattering technology that's gonna make you live like in "the machine stops". Geez. Is my point of view so hard to understand?


Hobby is when you buy a food processor and a strainer to make funny tasting diet drinks.
Trend is when you buy an off the shelf juicer and cook books with dozens of recipes.
Fact of life is when you can walk into any fast food joint and order that shiat off the menu.

We're quickly approaching the latter situation.

/Yea yea, its hasn't turned night into day or made cats get along with dogs.
/It has been revolutionizing various industries, and that you can't argue against with any honesty.
 
2012-12-01 12:42:02 PM  

way south: We're quickly approaching the latter situation.


For paper trinkets and fragile plastic gewgaws, sure. But the delusional beliefs some people have about this technology are baffling to me. We aren't two weeks away from Star Trek because you can order a paper figurine on the internet. Is that so hard to understand?
 
2012-12-01 12:55:52 PM  
Staples has you covered.... in BELGIUM.

For $1300, this isn't that bad for a serious scale modeler, though, especially if it prints in full color.

I wonder what the media costs.
 
2012-12-01 01:08:14 PM  

LesserEvil: I wonder what the media costs.


The media is ordinary printer paper, so... not a hell of a lot, especially with the price Staples pays for it.


Quantum Apostrophe: I just bought a "XXL" titanium cartridge. I'm 3D printing 4 Olympus turbojets today for my Concorde. I say let's revive the dead fantasies of the past with the delusional beliefs of today!


What 3D printed titanium looks like:

assets.inhabitat.com

Rejoice, QA! They're already capable of printing you life-prolonging spare parts!

Of course if you want to print jet engine parts you'll probably need something a bit larger.


Quantum Apostrophe: I played around with 3D printing for about six months. Got tired of it when I realized the other people in the hacker space were more interested in the printer when it was broken. When it was working, well, how many leaky 50$ Yoda coffee cups can you make and still find it entertaining?


Ask me how I know you're lying. Besides posting at all, I mean...


Quantum Apostrophe: Geez. Is my point of view so hard to understand?


No, it's quite easy to understand - it's just not grounded in reality. 3D printing has been in use in industry since the 1980s and is a multi-billion-dollar market. The only thing that's changed in recent years is the technology has been refined and boiled down to affordable consumer versions. This is the general trend of technology that we've seen before.


Quantum Apostrophe: fragile plastic gewgaws


I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a video of a fully 3D printed chain hoist effortlessly lifting a 30-lbs load.

And just to rub salt in the wound, because I know you love Space related technology just as much as 3D printers: Researchers build objects with 3D printing using simulated moon rocks.
=Smidge=
/I've been enjoying my own machine quite a bit lately
 
2012-12-01 01:09:58 PM  
WANT this so hard.......

My kid is a whiz at graphic arts and building 3-d stuff in sketch-up. For a Christmas gift I gave him an account with Shapeways and paid for printing out one of his original designs. He thought this was the most awesome gift ever.

When a good-fidelity printer comes out in the 300-buck range (I'll check that link upthread to see if this is good enough yet) I for sure will buy him one of these gizmos. I want him to carve out a career for himself in this area somehow.
 
2012-12-01 01:12:57 PM  
Geez, I block Quantum's ravings only to see him quoted, can I pay five bucks a month to NOT ever see his idiocy?
 
2012-12-01 01:21:24 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: way south: We're quickly approaching the latter situation.

For paper trinkets and fragile plastic gewgaws, sure. But the delusional beliefs some people have about this technology are baffling to me. We aren't two weeks away from Star Trek because you can order a paper figurine on the internet. Is that so hard to understand?


Star Trek was set hundreds of years in the future, and I don't recall anyone saying its just around the corner.
It is where we might be headed in due time.

Fact is that simple things like those trinkets were hard to do ten years ago. Now they are apparently simple enough that the hired help at Staples can figure it out.
The hard stuff is now in printing simple machines and metal parts. In ten years, that will become simple and the bar will be raised again.

This is how technology progresses. The more we play with it, the more we learn, the better it gets.
Yes there may be practical limits, but you can forgive people for being hopeful when things move so fast these days.
 
2012-12-01 01:26:38 PM  
Besides printing out titanium jawbones and orthotics, scientists are already using 3d printing techniques to build up replacement organs and organic components like heart valves or skin. Eventually they will be able to "print" out a kidney, using donor cells from a patient, and that IS FARKING LIFE EXTENSION.
 
2012-12-01 01:35:53 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: ImpendingCynic: Does anyone else see this service as either nearly useless or short-lived? Some places (e.g. Wal-Mart) already won't print your digital photos unless you can prove you took it and that it's not copyrighted, lest they be sued. It's only a matter of time before, say, BMW sues Staples because someone reproduced an expensive factory part.

Nope... just you.

/your welcome


Ok, I'll be sure to repost your comment in a future Fark thread about someone who was arrested for "counterfeiting" proprietary designs.
 
2012-12-01 01:47:06 PM  

Smidge204: And just to rub salt in the wound, because I know you love Space related technology just as much as 3D printers: Researchers build objects with 3D printing using simulated moon rocks.


There's also a story about laser-sintered spacecraft parts being produced by NASA. I don't like calling laser sintering 3D-printing, myself. It's technically true, but that's like saying an industrial offset printer and your Lexmark are both printers. They operate on such fundamentally different principles and produce such different kinds of output, I think you're likely to confuse the layman by conflating the two.

And QuantumAsshat starts confused.
 
2012-12-01 02:04:56 PM  

Any Pie Left: WANT this so hard.......

My kid is a whiz at graphic arts and building 3-d stuff in sketch-up. For a Christmas gift I gave him an account with Shapeways and paid for printing out one of his original designs. He thought this was the most awesome gift ever.

When a good-fidelity printer comes out in the 300-buck range (I'll check that link upthread to see if this is good enough yet) I for sure will buy him one of these gizmos. I want him to carve out a career for himself in this area somehow.


Still being tweaked and is in development, but the $300 printer, while not able to produce titanium jawbones, is getting there for the price of a color 2D paper printer. You can see some of it here including a 3D "pen" that spun out of the development as well.
 
2012-12-01 02:14:16 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: It's a hobby. It's not this earth shattering technology that's gonna make you live like in "the machine stops". Geez. Is my point of view so hard to understand?


You must have some interesting hobbies.

Anthony Atala: Printing a human kidney

3D printed circuitry
 
2012-12-01 02:23:58 PM  

Smidge204: LesserEvil: I wonder what the media costs.

The media is ordinary printer paper, so... not a hell of a lot, especially with the price Staples pays for it.


Quantum Apostrophe: I just bought a "XXL" titanium cartridge. I'm 3D printing 4 Olympus turbojets today for my Concorde. I say let's revive the dead fantasies of the past with the delusional beliefs of today!

What 3D printed titanium looks like:

[assets.inhabitat.com image 537x392]

Rejoice, QA! They're already capable of printing you life-prolonging spare parts!

Of course if you want to print jet engine parts you'll probably need something a bit larger.


Quantum Apostrophe: I played around with 3D printing for about six months. Got tired of it when I realized the other people in the hacker space were more interested in the printer when it was broken. When it was working, well, how many leaky 50$ Yoda coffee cups can you make and still find it entertaining?

Ask me how I know you're lying. Besides posting at all, I mean...


Quantum Apostrophe: Geez. Is my point of view so hard to understand?

No, it's quite easy to understand - it's just not grounded in reality. 3D printing has been in use in industry since the 1980s and is a multi-billion-dollar market. The only thing that's changed in recent years is the technology has been refined and boiled down to affordable consumer versions. This is the general trend of technology that we've seen before.


Quantum Apostrophe: fragile plastic gewgaws

I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a video of a fully 3D printed chain hoist effortlessly lifting a 30-lbs load.

And just to rub salt in the wound, because I know you love Space related technology just as much as 3D printers: Researchers build objects with 3D printing using simulated moon rocks.
=Smidge=
/I've been enjoying my own machine quite a bit lately


And there's a doctor who made some prosthetic arm supports for a little girl who had a condition that made her unable to lift her arms. He printed the parts on a 3d printer. If a part breaks, he just prints a new part. If she outgrows them, he just adjusts the blueprints and prints new ones.
 
2012-12-01 03:05:31 PM  
Guess who probably won't be posting in this thread ever again?
 
2012-12-01 03:39:55 PM  
Form 1 3D Printer

... assholes with patent in the 80's (which is expiring in 2014) are suing them.
 
2012-12-01 03:57:26 PM  
Want.
 
2012-12-01 04:18:29 PM  
Can I use one of these to print LEGO bricks?
 
2012-12-01 04:31:58 PM  

Smidge204: Rejoice, QA! They're already capable of printing you life-prolonging spare parts!


Not even close.

stevetherobot: 3D printing has been in use in industry since the 1980s and is a multi-billion-dollar market.


Yes. Great. But you won't be doing that in your living room with a 300$ toy. Is this hard to understand? And it's not "3D printing". Is CNC milling "3D printing"?

You technological revisionists are insane.

Mentalpatient87: Guess who probably won't be posting in this thread ever again?


Time for your meds.

t3knomanser: . I don't like calling laser sintering 3D-printing, myself


That's all I'm saying. There's nothing revolutionary going on here. Industrial techniques have been around for decades. Having a rickety toy in your living room won't change the world. 

And this tendency for you lunatics to conflate a whole bunch of existing processes as "3D printing", then thinking that a 300$ 3D printer is exactly the same... geez....
 
2012-12-01 05:22:58 PM  
acanuck:
A stack of glued paper ain't gonna cut it

Think of it as very finely-grained plywood.

Or an organically-based composite material.

/lots of "composite materials" are basically just glued paper
 
2012-12-01 05:35:20 PM  
Seems like it's already cheaper than the price of normal printer ink. I could see people printing 3d paper and writing to save cost of ink on printer.

/No, I can't really. Or at least just to prove a point.
 
2012-12-01 06:05:44 PM  
Yeah I think I'll get one in about 6 months. See what the next models do.
 
2012-12-01 06:52:34 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Not even close.


No? 3D printing patient-specific prosthetics and implants is "not even close" ? You sure?


Quantum Apostrophe: Yes. Great. But you won't be doing that in your living room with a 300$ toy. Is this hard to understand? And it's not "3D printing". Is CNC milling "3D printing"?


Of course not - 3D printing is an additive manufacturing process. CNC milling is a subtractive manufacturing process. Is this so hard to understand?

3D printing - that is, additive manufacturing - is an entire industry in its own right.


Quantum Apostrophe: That's all I'm saying. There's nothing revolutionary going on here. Industrial techniques have been around for decades. Having a rickety toy in your living room won't change the world.


The same was said of "personal" computers in the 1970s I'm sure. That Altair 8800 is a cute toy but it'll never change the world... and the 1980s with "personal" printers... and digital cameras in the 1990s...
=Smidge=
 
2012-12-01 08:18:10 PM  
What, trolling space exploration threads wasn't enough, so QA branches into... farking 3d Printing? Really? I wish he'd take his fantasy protein pills and boosterspice pipe dreams and go away.
 
2012-12-01 09:24:55 PM  
In a recent TV series the bad guy printed up a disposable gun - good for one shot that left no marks on the bullet. Looks like we are getting awful close to this. FYI: Person of Interest IS reality. Just Google "Trapwire"
 
2012-12-01 09:25:17 PM  

Smidge204: The same was said of "personal" computers in the 1970s I'm sure. That Altair 8800 is a cute toy but it'll never change the world... and the 1980s with "personal" printers... and digital cameras in the 1990s...
=Smidge=


QA already said earlier in the thread that personal printers didn't turn us all into authors, so they didn't change the world.

...even though one secretary can do what an entire typing pool used to do. And that people can .... you know, that was an astoundingly retarded statement on his part, considering the number of people with home offices and the like.
 
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