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(Daily Mail)   Doctors warn that too much exercise can wear out your heart. Phew, dodged a bullet there   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 90
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2012-11-30 11:27:29 PM  
In fact, I am not heading to the gym in 26 minutes!
 
2012-11-30 11:42:08 PM  
I can't help but to indulge in a bit of schadenfreude when I think about the fact that one of the major proponents of running for health died while doing it
 
2012-12-01 12:17:35 AM  
Between this, and the earlier greenlight about the wondrous health benefits of coffee, there is little doubt that I will live to 150.
 
2012-12-01 12:33:52 AM  
I'm gonna live forever!
 
2012-12-01 12:38:14 AM  
I keep mine in the original packaging.
 
2012-12-01 12:38:41 AM  
Life is sweet.

/runs occasionally.
//average is fine, don't need to look like a bodybuilder
 
2012-12-01 12:39:34 AM  
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You're about 30 years too late on that.
 
2012-12-01 12:41:28 AM  

Snapper Carr: [img35.imageshack.us image 246x520]


You're about 30 years too late on that.


Jim Fixx's "Art of Running" is a classic book.

/His family had a history of heart disease.
 
2012-12-01 12:46:41 AM  

mc_madness: Snapper Carr: [img35.imageshack.us image 246x520]


You're about 30 years too late on that.

Jim Fixx's "Art of Running" is a classic book.

/His family had a history of heart disease.


It is almost like multiple variables affect health...
 
2012-12-01 12:48:58 AM  
Or you would have, if you weren't so darned fat.
 
2012-12-01 12:49:05 AM  
Hah, I already knew this. My heart takes steroids.
 
2012-12-01 01:01:16 AM  
I'm not surprised. Moderation is almost always better than any extreme.
 
2012-12-01 01:02:33 AM  
Now if somebody would please green an article espousing the health benefits of Scotch, I will have lead a perfect day.
 
2012-12-01 01:05:59 AM  
drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool
 
2012-12-01 01:08:43 AM  

BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool


At an average heart rate of 70, and assuming no variability (your vagus nerve has been severed, and you're taking beta blockers), 1 billion beats is a little under 3 years of contractions.
 
2012-12-01 01:11:14 AM  
Good thing I play real sports.
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Not trying to be the best at exercising.
 
2012-12-01 01:11:19 AM  

BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool


Yes, you'll live longer without roller coasters, corvettes, titty bars, sky diving, snorkeling, surfing, skiing, etc. But who wants to?
 
2012-12-01 01:15:12 AM  

BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool


That's mammals, and humans have twice as many for some reason.
 
2012-12-01 01:17:33 AM  

BronyMedic: BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool

At an average heart rate of 70, and assuming no variability (your vagus nerve has been severed, and you're taking beta blockers), 1 billion beats is a little under 3 years of contractions.


27 years.

Do math bettererer.
 
2012-12-01 01:19:16 AM  
Good thing I'm relaxing my heart muscles with plenty of alcohol. Also: it's a preservative.
 
2012-12-01 01:30:28 AM  
My Brady heart rate should keep me going indefinitely.
 
2012-12-01 01:37:33 AM  
I would much rather die due to a worn out heart than a dirty one.
 
2012-12-01 01:39:38 AM  
Even of this is true (and I'm extremely skeptical), this would be a problem for such a very small amount of the population. The article talks about differences in life expectancy but doesn't state which groups died of what. They throw in some garbage about marathon runners getting scarred enlarged hearts (I have yet to see a marathon runner present with this in my clinical practice). I would never, absent of other circumstances, advise a patient to limit their cardio to 30 minutes if they wanted to do more and are capable of such.
 
2012-12-01 01:41:00 AM  

BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link


Factoid, indeed.
 
2012-12-01 01:47:19 AM  

BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool


What if you get a heart transplant from a young child?
 
2012-12-01 01:48:56 AM  

mc_madness: Snapper Carr: [img35.imageshack.us image 246x520]


You're about 30 years too late on that.

Jim Fixx's "Art of Running" is a classic book.

/His family had a history of heart disease.


Yup. His father and brother both died in their late 30's-early 40's. By running, Jim Fixx probably added 10-15 years to his life.
 
2012-12-01 01:49:55 AM  

Doom MD: Even of this is true (and I'm extremely skeptical), this would be a problem for such a very small amount of the population. The article talks about differences in life expectancy but doesn't state which groups died of what. They throw in some garbage about marathon runners getting scarred enlarged hearts (I have yet to see a marathon runner present with this in my clinical practice). I would never, absent of other circumstances, advise a patient to limit their cardio to 30 minutes if they wanted to do more and are capable of such.


The only people I ever saw present with cardiomyopathy in this way seemed to be ex-NFL folks who were waaay larger than a normal human and had quit exercising when they retired. A decade or two of creating a ginormous, think walled heart to pump in a ginormous body. The enlarged heart then just goes boggy when they age and don't try to maintain.

Normal people? Never saw anything like this.
 
2012-12-01 01:56:07 AM  

BigLuca: factoid


Just so you know, a "factoid" is something presented as a fact but has no truth to it.
 
2012-12-01 01:59:40 AM  
That assumes that the person-in-question HAS a heart...

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2012-12-01 02:05:48 AM  

BronyMedic: BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool

At an average heart rate of 70, and assuming no variability (your vagus nerve has been severed, and you're taking beta blockers), 1 billion beats is a little under 3 years of contractions.


You fail at math. It's more like 30 years.

365*24*60*60= 3M and change. So one beat per second for 30 years gives us 9.5 hundred million beats. Even tacking on an extra ten per minute, average doesn't really change it all that much.

Not to mention that the 1 billion beats thing is an approximation based on lifespan in the wild. If you take animals into the confines of safety and treat them like humans, with no real threats and good medicine, they also exceed the billion beats. It's a lot easier to sleep well and eat properly when there's no food shortages and nothing's trying to eat you at night.
 
2012-12-01 02:16:51 AM  

doglover: BronyMedic: BigLuca: drtfa, but my interesting factoid for the day ... Every species on Earth has roughly (very roughly) the same number of heartbeats in their lifetime -- 1 billion. Link Link

So the average hummingbird has the same number of heart beats in its life as the blue whale. Kinda cool

At an average heart rate of 70, and assuming no variability (your vagus nerve has been severed, and you're taking beta blockers), 1 billion beats is a little under 3 years of contractions.

You fail at math. It's more like 30 years.

365*24*60*60= 3M and change. So one beat per second for 30 years gives us 9.5 hundred million beats. Even tacking on an extra ten per minute, average doesn't really change it all that much.

Not to mention that the 1 billion beats thing is an approximation based on lifespan in the wild. If you take animals into the confines of safety and treat them like humans, with no real threats and good medicine, they also exceed the billion beats. It's a lot easier to sleep well and eat properly when there's no food shortages and nothing's trying to eat you at night.


The awesomeness of Google Calculator gives me 27.1617861917 years, because I'm lazy.
 
2012-12-01 02:34:02 AM  
This doesn't apply to Rindy Ross. She hardened hers back in the 80s.
 
2012-12-01 02:47:51 AM  
I'm following the Al Molinaro health plan
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It's seems to work great
 
2012-12-01 03:10:28 AM  
SO REACHING FOR MY KEYBOARD IS KILLING ME?
 
2012-12-01 03:11:14 AM  
I always thought it was strange that exercise was supposed to make you strong.

Driving a car doesn't make it stronger. It wears it out!

What's curious here is dogs. They can sleep like 22 hours a day and then be told it's playtime and bolt around at amazing speeds for an hour or two. WHY IS THAT?? Laziest lovable farks around, somehow in tip-top shape.
 
2012-12-01 03:21:42 AM  

Oznog: I always thought it was strange that exercise was supposed to make you strong.

Driving a car doesn't make it stronger. It wears it out!

What's curious here is dogs. They can sleep like 22 hours a day and then be told it's playtime and bolt around at amazing speeds for an hour or two. WHY IS THAT?? Laziest lovable farks around, somehow in tip-top shape.


Exercise does make you strong.

You should try it with your brain sometime :p
 
2012-12-01 03:22:03 AM  
Unfortunately, no one told King Macrotus
 
2012-12-01 03:23:25 AM  
Yup. His father and brother both died in their late 30's-early 40's. By running, Jim Fixx probably added 10-15 years to his life.

Uh, didn't Jim Fixx die at age 42? Found dead on a jogging trail.
 
2012-12-01 03:24:24 AM  

Oznog: I always thought it was strange that exercise was supposed to make you strong.

Driving a car doesn't make it stronger. It wears it out!

What's curious here is dogs. They can sleep like 22 hours a day and then be told it's playtime and bolt around at amazing speeds for an hour or two. WHY IS THAT?? Laziest lovable farks around, somehow in tip-top shape.


Your dogs are very different from my dogs.

5-10 minutes of intense activity, they are farking done.

20-30 minutes of moderate activity, ditto.

/ Then again, my Corgi's torso is taller than his legs.
// And the other one's a Pomeranian, so not big.
/// Running around the living room and up some stairs is like doing some hardcore parkour shiat from these dogs' perspectives.
 
2012-12-01 04:05:43 AM  

Oznog:

Driving a car doesn't make it stronger. It wears it out!


That's because a car doesn't rebuild itself, or build stronger parts to withstand greater stress.

Your body does.

Try it for yourself. Your quality of life will thank you for it.
 
2012-12-01 04:09:34 AM  

Hagenhatesyouall: Oznog:

Driving a car doesn't make it stronger. It wears it out!


That's because a car doesn't rebuild itself, or build stronger parts to withstand greater stress.

Your body does.

Try it for yourself. Your quality of life will thank you for it.


You should write a newsletter.
 
2012-12-01 04:27:07 AM  

chaosweaver: Life is sweet.

/runs occasionally.
//average is fine, don't need to look like a bodybuilder


1.bp.blogspot.com

/ohai.
 
2012-12-01 04:40:49 AM  
Do you even lift?
 
2012-12-01 05:16:21 AM  
An absurd article and an even more absurd notion. I'm glad to see farkers are generally disagreeing or just cracking jokes.
 
2012-12-01 05:30:49 AM  
Wait,what?
 
2012-12-01 05:31:06 AM  
Sniffing Yul Brynner's noggin
 
2012-12-01 05:58:11 AM  
DNRTFA
DNRTFT


This is bullshiat. You cannot wear out your heart.

A weight lifter (body builder) who trains only with anaerobic exercise can damage his heart with moderate aerobic exercise.
 
2012-12-01 06:09:55 AM  
When did jogging become synonymous with exercise and health? It is one of the least effective (and some would argue counter-productive) activities you can do to improve your health.

/sprint, lift weights, or play a sport.
 
2012-12-01 06:16:37 AM  
It's your genes. You'd probably die early if you excercised or not.
 
2012-12-01 06:23:02 AM  

BafflerMeal: Doom MD: Even of this is true (and I'm extremely skeptical), this would be a problem for such a very small amount of the population. The article talks about differences in life expectancy but doesn't state which groups died of what. They throw in some garbage about marathon runners getting scarred enlarged hearts (I have yet to see a marathon runner present with this in my clinical practice). I would never, absent of other circumstances, advise a patient to limit their cardio to 30 minutes if they wanted to do more and are capable of such.

The only people I ever saw present with cardiomyopathy in this way seemed to be ex-NFL folks who were waaay larger than a normal human and had quit exercising when they retired. A decade or two of creating a ginormous, think walled heart to pump in a ginormous body. The enlarged heart then just goes boggy when they age and don't try to maintain.

Normal people? Never saw anything like this.


NFL players abuse their bodies in all sorts of terrible ways. I don't know specifically about your patients of course, but my understanding (having seen it when I played in University) is that nearly all people who make it that far in such a physically abusive and highly competitive career are taking things in doses that no sane doctor would ever recommend. All sorts of pain killers, steroids, and who knows what else... they self medicate like crazy, that might be a possible explanation for the heart issues of NFL players in general.

/not to mention the brain damage hazards
 
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