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(The Weather Channel)   Mt. Shasta may receive a record-shattering 218 inches of global warming this weekend   (weather.com) divider line 197
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2012-11-30 01:38:52 PM
That's pretty McNasty.
 
2012-11-30 01:39:47 PM
In other news, subby might solve the long-standing mystery of his itchy asshole and smelly brown finger.
 
2012-11-30 01:56:10 PM
Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.
 
2012-11-30 01:59:42 PM

RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.


It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.
 
2012-11-30 02:34:11 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude.


freezes at altitude? AHAH! So you admit global WARMING is a myth!!!
 
2012-11-30 02:57:56 PM

cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.


Moisture? Atmosphere? Stupid lib. It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us. Any true conservative who knows the REAL facts knows that.
 
2012-11-30 03:15:22 PM

GAT_00: It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us


Furthermore 6000 years worth of dandruff is exactly 218 inches.

That's science, my friend.
 
2012-11-30 03:17:30 PM
Run for your lives! The glaciers are coming!
 
2012-11-30 03:19:51 PM

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: GAT_00: It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us

Furthermore 6000 years worth of dandruff is exactly 218 inches.

That's science, my friend.


And it's why it snows exactly the same amount every year; no more, no less. That's how we know it's all God's Plan, and how there cannot possibly be climate change.
 
2012-11-30 03:20:00 PM
I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground
 
2012-11-30 03:32:56 PM
Insane Clown Posse-like headline detected...

/ you can't argue with conservative logick
 
2012-11-30 03:39:51 PM
lol. subtard doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather!
 
2012-11-30 03:50:44 PM
Is it regular or Diet Shasta?
 
2012-11-30 03:51:37 PM
HURR IT SNOWED SO GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE DURRRR
 
2012-11-30 03:52:18 PM

GAT_00: Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: GAT_00: It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us

Furthermore 6000 years worth of dandruff is exactly 218 inches.

That's science, my friend.

And it's why it snows exactly the same amount every year; no more, no less. That's how we know it's all God's Plan, and how there cannot possibly be climate change.


potential troll of the year award? Had to check profile though to make sure wasn't serious, once I saw the dinosaurs I was confident in my assumption
 
2012-11-30 03:54:15 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-11-30 04:20:29 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground


You live up in Gtown? I might be in your neck of the woods tomorrow getting my christmas tree
 
2012-11-30 04:29:17 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground


Don't worry, it'll all wind up in the Valley. Yolo Bypass will look like an ocean by Tuesday.

The runoff around here is incredible, and it's only the second day.
 
2012-11-30 04:33:50 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground

You live up in Gtown? I might be in your neck of the woods tomorrow getting my christmas tree


Well, if you're up for a beer, I'll buy :)
 
2012-11-30 04:43:52 PM

kmmontandon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground

Don't worry, it'll all wind up in the Valley. Yolo Bypass will look like an ocean by Tuesday.

The runoff around here is incredible, and it's only the second day.


Too bad it all can't be piped south. The Salten Sea could use a few million gallons. Actually, it could use a few billion gallons.
 
2012-11-30 04:46:23 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Contrabulous Flabtraption: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground

You live up in Gtown? I might be in your neck of the woods tomorrow getting my christmas tree

Well, if you're up for a beer, I'll buy :)


Did that bar up there ever get back their stuffed cougar or whatever it was?
 
2012-11-30 04:47:29 PM
Just saw the 24 hour rainfall total for Georgetown: as of 11:00 AM, it was 8.34 inches.

/Yeah, I don't think 20" is out of the question
 
2012-11-30 04:48:45 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Contrabulous Flabtraption: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm supposed to get up to 20" of rain at my place

/glad it's on high ground

You live up in Gtown? I might be in your neck of the woods tomorrow getting my christmas tree

Well, if you're up for a beer, I'll buy :)

Did that bar up there ever get back their stuffed cougar or whatever it was?


It was a wolverine. No, F&G has it in their rec room now

/still a cool bar, though
//Georgetown Hotel
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-11-30 04:52:36 PM
If only "climate" had anything whatsoever to do with "weather"...
 
2012-11-30 04:52:46 PM
I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.
 
2012-11-30 04:53:34 PM
The note I leave behind after I go on a murderous rampage will read:

"I did it because people can't understand the difference between weather and global climate change."
 
2012-11-30 04:55:08 PM
It's getting to the point that I blame the mods for these headlines. Some people probably found this joke funny the first dozen or so times, but even they must be tired of it by now.
 
2012-11-30 04:56:03 PM
www.sitcomsonline.com
 
2012-11-30 04:56:05 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


it's "Don't talk about thermodynamics".
Duh
 
2012-11-30 04:56:43 PM

FlashHarry: lol. subtard doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather!


lol you have no sense of humor!

+1 subby. Haterz gonna hate
 
2012-11-30 04:57:12 PM
'Cause I'm the master blaster drinking up the Shasta
 
2012-11-30 04:57:46 PM

cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.


I remember this when forecasters predicted more hurricanes every year for the same reason.

Damn those reduced numbers per year.
 
2012-11-30 04:57:55 PM
What's the conversion rate for inches to boda bags?
 
2012-11-30 04:58:03 PM
Clicked for the butthurt people trolled by obvious headline.
 
2012-11-30 04:58:38 PM

Lando Lincoln: The note I leave behind after I go on a murderous rampage will read:

"I did it because people can't understand the difference between weather and global climate change."


And my note will say "because people can't understand what a prediction is and how it is based on variables that may or may not be valid"
 
2012-11-30 04:58:41 PM

tricycleracer: 'Cause I'm the master blaster drinking up the Shasta


My voice sounds sweet, cuz it hasta! 


/internet fist bump
 
2012-11-30 04:59:18 PM

wee: If only "climate" had anything whatsoever to do with "weather"...


it does
 
2012-11-30 04:59:50 PM
Please don't take it all and send some this way. We're still short. And do you know what week-old half-melted snow looks like? Bleh.

Rug Doctor: It's getting to the point that I blame the mods for these headlines. Some people probably found this joke funny the first dozen or so times, but even they must be tired of it by now.


I got one of my very few greens using a variation of this. And that was.... several years ago.
 
2012-11-30 05:00:59 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


You need a hobby.
 
2012-11-30 05:01:20 PM
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-30 05:05:12 PM
Ok, as much as I love weather.com, someone needs to get fired or at least reprimanded for this garbage:

The Thursday morning National Weather Service summit forecast for Shasta predicted an incredible 33 to 39 inches of snow -- just for Thursday alone.

(By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.)

You can't logically compare a freaking MOUNTAIN top with Atlanta, Georgia. No shiat, a city in the US south gets less snow than a mountain in the PNW/Cascades?

/weather rage
 
2012-11-30 05:05:13 PM
It's not a troll thread if the headline reflects what Republicans really believe.
 
2012-11-30 05:05:32 PM
Troll headline, or legit derp?

hmm..
 
2012-11-30 05:05:58 PM
Gaw, you guys are obtuse. The great fates are dumping a large load of snow on Shasta because it is a volcano that it heating up and rumbling with impending disaster. The snow will cool it down and save the people.
The new agers in the area chanted this in.
 
2012-11-30 05:06:27 PM
It's okay, mankind will destroy itself long before and "climate change" can do us in, whether it is made but us or not.
 
2012-11-30 05:07:42 PM
ooooooh, is it unprecedented?
 
2012-11-30 05:08:34 PM
This joke (or "joke") irritates me because I live in a northerly part of Canada, which also happens to be super conservative, and which also happens to be engaged in raping the land for oil (and giving all the first nations people horrible, horrible cancer). So, because the average citizen of my fair city is retarded, from October to May every God damned year all you hear is "LOL global warming". The local conservative newspaper makes this same joke their front page headline every other day.

I guess the fact that it gets cold in the winter in northern Canada means that it's okay to continue destroying everything.

....ugh. Just ugh. You farking morons. It's not even a joke anymore. It's just obnoxious.
 
2012-11-30 05:09:13 PM

ladyfortuna: Ok, as much as I love weather.com, someone needs to get fired or at least reprimanded for this garbage:

The Thursday morning National Weather Service summit forecast for Shasta predicted an incredible 33 to 39 inches of snow -- just for Thursday alone.

(By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.)

You can't logically compare a freaking MOUNTAIN top with Atlanta, Georgia. No shiat, a city in the US south gets less snow than a mountain in the PNW/Cascades?

/weather rage


Glad I wasn't the only one irked by that ridiculous comparison.

"Gee, Texas got less snow over 20 years compared to Alaska? You don't say!"
 
2012-11-30 05:12:50 PM

Rev.K: In other news, subby might solve the long-standing mystery of his itchy asshole and smelly brown finger.


t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-30 05:13:23 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


What does that have to do with global warming? Do you mean the zeroth law? That has more to do with temperature. But then temperature is different from heat, so maybe you mean the second law, which would be more applicable to global atmospheric climate.
 
2012-11-30 05:13:31 PM
Warm air holds more moisture.

Film at eleven.
 
2012-11-30 05:15:21 PM
yeah it ain't global warming when that much moisture is evaporated off of the ocean and then rains down as snow! ony a fool would think that rising ocean temperatures would cause more precipitation! and non of this climate change would cause more hurricains rising seas, shell loss, and such. boo ya look at all that snow
 
2012-11-30 05:15:25 PM
My sister just moved there and she is a southern California girl through and through. This should be hilarious.
 
2012-11-30 05:17:22 PM
And Ms Shasta is going to receive 240 inches of my global warming this weekend.

/Lots of pounding, driving warming.
 
2012-11-30 05:17:44 PM

meat0918: Warm air holds more moisture.

Film at eleven.


Then why do I wake up with a sore throat when running the heater at night. You can't explain that.
 
jvl
2012-11-30 05:19:43 PM
I'm an evil semi-denier, but apart from being a great opportunity to make a joke, this means nothing.

Warming may mean some place evaporate more, followed by some places receiving more precipitation.
 
2012-11-30 05:21:34 PM
All of the sudden I want a pop.
 
2012-11-30 05:21:55 PM
When did they start measuring sunshine in inches?
 
2012-11-30 05:24:12 PM

cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.


I live about 30 miles from Mt Shasta and the growth of the glacier has to do with the fact that said glacier is in a very large valley created by one of its eruptions. This valley is positioned in such as way that it receives very little direct sunlight yearlong. That, the altitude (and the cool air provided by such) and the fact it receives a prodigious amount of snowfall because of the topography contributes to the growth of the glacier.
 
2012-11-30 05:24:50 PM

IRQ12: All of the sudden I want a pop.


What is this "pop" you speak of?
 
2012-11-30 05:25:14 PM

havocmike: Troll headline, or legit derp?

hmm..


This is Fark, does it even matter any more?
 
2012-11-30 05:25:37 PM
From Dr. Masters at Wunderground

The old adage, "it's too cold to snow", has some truth to it, and there is research supporting the idea that the average climate in the U.S. is colder than optimal to support the heaviest snowstorms. For example, Changnon et al. (2006) found that for the contiguous U.S. between 1900 - 2001, 61% - 80% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters with above normal temperatures. The authors also found that 61% - 85% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters that were wetter than average. The authors conclude, "a future with wetter and warmer winters, which is one outcome expected (National Assessment Synthesis Team 2001), will bring more heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000." The authors found that over the U.S. as a whole, there had been a slight but significant increase in heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000. If the climate continues to warm, we should expect an increase in heavy snow events for a few decades, until the climate grows so warm that we pass the point where winter temperatures are at the optimum for heavy snow events.
 
2012-11-30 05:26:10 PM

wee: If only "climate" had anything whatsoever to do with "weather"...


But as the climate scientist have been telling us for years, we will not necessarily see noticeable temperature changes over most of North America, but we will see shorter winter temperature regimes and a significant increase in extreme weather events. So far their predictions are dead-on. But what do they know? Farkers certainly know more about this incredibly complex collection of scientific disciplines. Amirite?
 
2012-11-30 05:26:38 PM
my wife's about to receive 10", amirite?
 
2012-11-30 05:27:40 PM

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: my wife's about to receive 10", amirite?


12", but she promised not to tell you the truth.
 
2012-11-30 05:28:46 PM

IRQ12: All of the sudden I want a pop.


Alla sudden I wanna poop.
 
2012-11-30 05:28:53 PM
What groundbreaking scientific rebuttals may look like:

i.imgur.com 

Grats, sub, you're smart enough to work at Fox News.
 
2012-11-30 05:29:55 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: It's okay, mankind will destroy itself long before and "climate change" can do us in, whether it is made butt us or not.


ftfy
 
2012-11-30 05:31:29 PM

GAT_00

And it's why it snows exactly the same amount every year; no more, no less. That's how we know it's all God's Plan, and how there cannot possibly be climate change.
It's always amusing watching you bigots going full hurp-a-derp when nobody has mentioned a god at all.

When you don't have facts lies are all you have to fall back on.
 
2012-11-30 05:35:29 PM
dethmagnetic

HURR IT SNOWED SO GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE DURRRR

No, what you claimed was fact has been proven to be junk science yet again, so all you have is ad hominem.

Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result... are actually growing, not shrinking.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your religion.
 
2012-11-30 05:36:53 PM

OnlyM3: GAT_00

And it's why it snows exactly the same amount every year; no more, no less. That's how we know it's all God's Plan, and how there cannot possibly be climate change. It's always amusing watching you bigots going full hurp-a-derp when nobody has mentioned a god at all.

When you don't have facts lies are all you have to fall back on.


You suck at snark.
 
2012-11-30 05:37:31 PM
If I remember correctly, while there is a consensus amongst scientists that global warming is real, and likely the results of the actions of man, there is no similar consensus on the effects of said warming. A lot of very smart people will argue about various effects. That's one of the big issues with "An Inconvenient Truth", is that it starts by saying "scientists agree on this..." (being climate change), and then goes on to cite studies by scientists that aren't as agreed-upon (specifically, the ones that argue that global warming is increasing the amount of hurricanes we experience).
 
2012-11-30 05:37:31 PM

FlashHarry: lol. subtard doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather!

 
2012-11-30 05:39:19 PM
Now Subby.. You aren't being very sensitive all the kiddies on here that believe cows farting to be warming up the earth.
 
2012-11-30 05:41:11 PM

GammaTitan: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

I live about 30 miles from Mt Shasta and the growth of the glacier has to do with the fact that said glacier is in a very large valley created by one of its eruptions. This valley is positioned in such as way that it receives very little direct sunlight yearlong. That, the altitude (and the cool air provided by such) and the fact it receives a prodigious amount of snowfall because of the topography contributes to the growth of the glacier.


Hey, isn't that mountain just south of a major weather convergence zone too? Who'd a thunk it would be notably different... huh...
 
2012-11-30 05:42:14 PM

OnlyM3: dethmagnetic

HURR IT SNOWED SO GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE DURRRR
No, what you claimed was fact has been proven to be junk science yet again, so all you have is ad hominem.

Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result... are actually growing, not shrinking.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your religion.



If you're going to complain about others not acknowledging facts, it would be better if the article you link to says what you claim it does.
 
2012-11-30 05:43:51 PM
That's 18 FEET of snow. Wow.
 
2012-11-30 05:44:17 PM
Yay global warming

ll.broadbandsports.com
 
2012-11-30 05:46:26 PM
Climbed that sucker a couple years ago. Plenty of snow left in August. Not sure why TFA used a 1984 file photo. Here's one from Monday:

www.anony.ws

/ yeah, comparing Atlanta to a 14,000 foot mountain top is pretty silly
 
2012-11-30 05:47:54 PM

Wrathskellar: Climbed that sucker a couple years ago. Plenty of snow left in August. Not sure why TFA used a 1984 file photo. Here's one from Monday:



/ yeah, comparing Atlanta to a 14,000 foot mountain top is pretty silly


I'm doing Shasta and Whitney next year.
 
2012-11-30 05:47:59 PM

IRQ12: All of the sudden I want a pop.


You mean a soda?
 
2012-11-30 05:48:33 PM
Thread is further proof the Church of AGW doesn't even try to hide its hypocrisy any more.

/when the temperature goes up, THAT'S GLOBAL CLIMATE
//when the temperature goes down, THAT'S LOCAL WEATHER
///nothing else matters, except to Republican Jesus Freaks
 
2012-11-30 05:51:40 PM

havocmike: Troll headline, or legit derp?


If it makes you ask that question it means instagreen
 
2012-11-30 05:52:22 PM
I swear, it's like some of you guys are new around here...

God jorbs subby!

backwardsandstupiddotcom.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-30 05:52:41 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


If you ask that question to those who believe in global climate change they won't know the answer, either. What's your point? That deniers are as dumb as the believers?
 
2012-11-30 05:52:59 PM

MyRandomName: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

I remember this when forecasters predicted more hurricanes every year for the same reason.

Damn those reduced numbers per year.


And look what report comes out today. Link

"There were 19 named storms in what meteorologists consider an above-average year that tied as being the third most-active season since 1851."

Damn those reduced numbers indeed.
 
2012-11-30 05:53:18 PM

gunther_bumpass: IRQ12: All of the sudden I want a pop.

You mean a soda?


No, I mean a Ssssshasta!
 
2012-11-30 05:55:55 PM

GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

Moisture? Atmosphere? Stupid lib. It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us. Any true conservative who knows the REAL facts knows that.


Most of my family are fundie crazy jesus people.

I have literally never heard anything like that stuff from actual religious nuts, it always comes from the people trying to mock them.

Leave the mocking to those of us who actually have to mingle with them, thanks.

Also they all voted for Obama, so that kills the "conservative" jab. They bought in to the "republican war on women" stuff, so that just scared the hell out of them.
 
2012-11-30 05:55:58 PM

12349876: From Dr. Masters at Wunderground

The old adage, "it's too cold to snow", has some truth to it, and there is research supporting the idea that the average climate in the U.S. is colder than optimal to support the heaviest snowstorms. For example, Changnon et al. (2006) found that for the contiguous U.S. between 1900 - 2001, 61% - 80% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters with above normal temperatures. The authors also found that 61% - 85% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters that were wetter than average. The authors conclude, "a future with wetter and warmer winters, which is one outcome expected (National Assessment Synthesis Team 2001), will bring more heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000." The authors found that over the U.S. as a whole, there had been a slight but significant increase in heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000. If the climate continues to warm, we should expect an increase in heavy snow events for a few decades, until the climate grows so warm that we pass the point where winter temperatures are at the optimum for heavy snow events.


Its obviously the government weather machine. They want heavy winters so we stay inside and make more babies to be workers. Damn Obammunism!
 
2012-11-30 05:57:16 PM
ANGRY COMMENT!!!
 
2012-11-30 05:57:22 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


The first laws of thermodynamics is, you cannot make energy out of nothing; has to come from someplace.

The second law of thermodynamics is, entropy always increases, which for those of you Farkers who never passed 12th grade Physics means everything is always running down.

The third law of thermodynamics is, when energy is changed in form, it always loses value.

The First Law of Causality is, if two things happen in sequence, it is not proven that one causes the other. The roosters do not cause the sunrise.
 
2012-11-30 05:57:25 PM

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: GAT_00: It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us

Furthermore 6000 years worth of dandruff is exactly 218 inches.

That's science, my friend.


Scary that I heard that in Muttered Romney's voice.

Bad farker, bad!
 
2012-11-30 06:00:40 PM

Begoggle: ANGRY COMMENT!!!


smug retort
 
2012-11-30 06:01:36 PM
i would just like to know how magnets works.
 
2012-11-30 06:01:47 PM
The National Climatic Data Center says California's heaviest four-day snowstorm was 145 inches at the Sierra-at-Tahoe Ski Resort near Echo Summit in March-April 1982.

I got stuck in that one.
 
2012-11-30 06:02:51 PM

dericwater: And Ms Shasta is going to receive 24.0 inches of my global warming this weekend.

/Lots of pounding, driving warming.


You missed a decimal point in there but I fixed it for you. No, you don't have to thank me.
 
2012-11-30 06:02:52 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just saw the 24 hour rainfall total for Georgetown: as of 11:00 AM, it was 8.34 inches.
/Yeah, I don't think 20" is out of the question


That's what subby's mom said.
 
2012-11-30 06:03:04 PM

GORDON: They bought in to the "republican war on women" stuff, so that just scared the hell out of them.


Bought into... you're implying that this was some sort of fictional concept? Wait, you've read what Ryan had to say, right? And maybe you've heard that crap that other Teahadists have said about rape not really being a good reason to get an abortion, etc... yeah, that was no "war on women" that was religious fundamentalism at its worst. I suppose you also laugh when you hear the term "Feminazi". All that has nothing to do with Republicans. Got it.
 
2012-11-30 06:03:39 PM

Damnhippyfreak: OnlyM3: dethmagnetic

HURR IT SNOWED SO GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE DURRRR
No, what you claimed was fact has been proven to be junk science yet again, so all you have is ad hominem.

Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result... are actually growing, not shrinking.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your religion.


If you're going to complain about others not acknowledging facts, it would be better if the article you link to says what you claim it does.



Everything he knows about climate change was learned from He Who Posts In Green.
 
2012-11-30 06:04:42 PM

GORDON: GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

Moisture? Atmosphere? Stupid lib. It snows because Jesus dropping his dandruff on us. Any true conservative who knows the REAL facts knows that.

Most of my family are fundie crazy jesus people.

I have literally never heard anything like that stuff from actual religious nuts, it always comes from the people trying to mock them.

Leave the mocking to those of us who actually have to mingle with them, thanks.

Also they all voted for Obama, so that kills the "conservative" jab. They bought in to the "republican war on women" stuff, so that just scared the hell out of them.


You suck even worse at snark.
 
2012-11-30 06:07:07 PM
18 feet of Nature's talcum powder. Holy snowballs, Batman!
 
2012-11-30 06:11:54 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify....
 
2012-11-30 06:13:28 PM

occamswrist: dericwater: And Ms Shasta is going to receive 24.0 inches of my global warming this weekend.

/Lots of pounding, driving warming.

You missed a decimal point in there but I fixed it for you. No, you don't have to thank me.


Well, I was counting the cumulative total inches from 30 strokes. On Saturday. And 30 strokes on Sunday. :-(
 
2012-11-30 06:15:00 PM

ladyfortuna: Ok, as much as I love weather.com, someone needs to get fired or at least reprimanded for this garbage:

The Thursday morning National Weather Service summit forecast for Shasta predicted an incredible 33 to 39 inches of snow -- just for Thursday alone.

(By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.)

You can't logically compare a freaking MOUNTAIN top with Atlanta, Georgia. No shiat, a city in the US south gets less snow than a mountain in the PNW/Cascades?

/weather rage



Big ol' THIS

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons
 
2012-11-30 06:15:33 PM

occamswrist: dericwater: And Ms Shasta is going to receive 24.0 inches of my global warming this weekend.

/Lots of pounding, driving warming.

You missed a decimal point in there but I fixed it for you. No, you don't have to thank me.


Holy shiat I put the decimal point in the wrong place. I give up.
 
2012-11-30 06:23:41 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


It's just a guess, but they probably know what a "closed system" is, think about trying to explain it to you and realize they're dumb for trying to argue with an idiot.

But it's just a guess.
 
2012-11-30 06:28:50 PM
Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why you might be.

As many as 757 stations in the United States recorded net surface-temperature cooling over the past century. Many are concentrated in the southeast, where some people attribute tornadoes and hurricanes to warming.

We do not know how much worse are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more. The most important stations in the stations by a team led by meteorologist Anthony Watts showed that, by the U.S. are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more.

We know and caused in the global estimates? That cities show the last 50 years. Could than areal, but 2ºC in that rise, about 2ºC in the global estimates? Tokyo's temperature sunlight than dioxide reasonably increasonably increas, has nothe last 50 years. Tokyo's temperature sunlight that cities increases show ther LISTEN TO ME! Urban do treenhous warming materials; asphalt, for in than areal, building may been unreal, but it have be about it has. Ber-re has ouresults rat www.Ber groject two soline Project www.Berked justed four two pers on ournals. I ch Sure Tempers two yearthe Tempeeply at atures th Surface Prournals. I ch Sur th.org two yearthes on onliny. Ove now paperkeleyEars, We aturnals.

ppphhhhhhtttzzz
 
2012-11-30 06:30:23 PM
Oh for fark's sake. Is this really how we're going to kick off the weekend? Go be stupid somewhere else subby.
 
2012-11-30 06:32:27 PM

Optimus Composite: zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.

What does that have to do with global warming? Do you mean the zeroth law? That has more to do with temperature. But then temperature is different from heat, so maybe you mean the second law, which would be more applicable to global atmospheric climate.


I believe he's referring to the "equal and opposite reaction" as a way of explaining that temperature increases in one are coincide with decreases in other areas. It's a simplistic way of putting the issue.

Those pointing out that warmer ocean temperatures lead to more evaporation and precipitation are probably closer to that mark.
 
2012-11-30 06:33:37 PM
Denizen of dry, hot Colorado checking in.

Eat shiat, submitter, you worthless farkstain.
 
2012-11-30 06:33:58 PM
motores.com.py
 
2012-11-30 06:35:31 PM

sinner3k: Optimus Composite: zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.

What does that have to do with global warming? Do you mean the zeroth law? That has more to do with temperature. But then temperature is different from heat, so maybe you mean the second law, which would be more applicable to global atmospheric climate.

I believe he's referring to the "equal and opposite reaction" as a way of explaining that temperature increases in one are coincide with decreases in other areas. It's a simplistic way of putting the issue.

Those pointing out that warmer ocean temperatures lead to more evaporation and precipitation are probably closer to that mark.


Was this post created by a random jargon generator?
 
2012-11-30 06:37:30 PM

tylerdurden217: sinner3k: Optimus Composite: zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.

What does that have to do with global warming? Do you mean the zeroth law? That has more to do with temperature. But then temperature is different from heat, so maybe you mean the second law, which would be more applicable to global atmospheric climate.

I believe he's referring to the "equal and opposite reaction" as a way of explaining that temperature increases in one are coincide with decreases in other areas. It's a simplistic way of putting the issue.

Those pointing out that warmer ocean temperatures lead to more evaporation and precipitation are probably closer to that mark.

Was this post created by a random jargon generator?


I did not mean to respond to this one!! dammit... Control Z??
 
2012-11-30 06:38:06 PM
What bullshiat. Let that snow come to CO, please. I don't want to wait until next year for the slopes to be decent.
 
vpc
2012-11-30 06:38:41 PM

ladyfortuna: Ok, as much as I love weather.com, someone needs to get fired or at least reprimanded for this garbage:

The Thursday morning National Weather Service summit forecast for Shasta predicted an incredible 33 to 39 inches of snow -- just for Thursday alone.

(By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.)

You can't logically compare a freaking MOUNTAIN top with Atlanta, Georgia. No shiat, a city in the US south gets less snow than a mountain in the PNW/Cascades?

/weather rage


came to say this; leaving satisfied.

/lives in Atlanta
 
2012-11-30 06:38:45 PM

ivan: Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why you might be.

As many as 757 stations in the United States recorded net surface-temperature cooling over the past century. Many are concentrated in the southeast, where some people attribute tornadoes and hurricanes to warming.

We do not know how much worse are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more. The most important stations in the stations by a team led by meteorologist Anthony Watts showed that, by the U.S. are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more.

We know and caused in the global estimates? That cities show the last 50 years. Could than areal, but 2ºC in that rise, about 2ºC in the global estimates? Tokyo's temperature sunlight than dioxide reasonably increasonably increas, has nothe last 50 years. Tokyo's temperature sunlight that cities increases show ther LISTEN TO ME! Urban do treenhous warming materials; asphalt, for in than areal, building may been unreal, but it have be about it has. Ber-re has ouresults rat www.Ber groject two soline Project www.Berked justed four two pers on ournals. I ch Sure Tempers two yearthe Tempeeply at atures th Surface Prournals. I ch Sur th.org two yearthes on onliny. Ove now paperkeleyEars, We aturnals.

ppphhhhhhtttzzz



Beautiful.
 
2012-11-30 06:39:00 PM

ivan: Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why you might be.

As many as 757 stations in the United States recorded net surface-temperature cooling over the past century. Many are concentrated in the southeast, where some people attribute tornadoes and hurricanes to warming.

We do not know how much worse are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more. The most important stations in the stations by a team led by meteorologist Anthony Watts showed that, by the U.S. are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more.

We know and caused in the global estimates? That cities show the last 50 years. Could than areal, but 2ºC in that rise, about 2ºC in the global estimates? Tokyo's temperature sunlight than dioxide reasonably increasonably increas, has nothe last 50 years. Tokyo's temperature sunlight that cities increases show ther LISTEN TO ME! Urban do treenhous warming materials; asphalt, for in than areal, building may been unreal, but it have be about it has. Ber-re has ouresults rat www.Ber groject two soline Project www.Berked justed four two pers on ournals. I ch Sure Tempers two yearthe Tempeeply at atures th Surface Prournals. I ch Sur th.org two yearthes on onliny. Ove now paperkeleyEars, We aturnals.

ppphhhhhhtttzzz


This is the post that appears to have been created by a random jargon generator. Probably one located in a station in a station.
 
2012-11-30 06:47:43 PM
Are Mt. Faygo and Mt. Fanta expecting any snow?
 
2012-11-30 06:51:19 PM
I want a thrill! I want a wow! I want it all! I want it now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXgsa9j81Ng
 
2012-11-30 06:53:57 PM

cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.


Less precipitation? Global warming, give me money!
More precipitation? Global warming, give me money!
 
2012-11-30 06:55:43 PM

tylerdurden217: This is the post that appears to have been created by a random jargon generator. Probably one located in a station in a station.


Oh. I think I get the joke. It's in GREEN.
 
2012-11-30 06:57:41 PM

zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.


That's the one about tending toward perpetual motion, right?
 
2012-11-30 07:04:14 PM

ivan: Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why you might be.

As many as 757 stations in the United States recorded net surface-temperature cooling over the past century. Many are concentrated in the southeast, where some people attribute tornadoes and hurricanes to warming.

We do not know how much worse are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more. The most important stations in the stations by a team led by meteorologist Anthony Watts showed that, by the U.S. are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more.

We know and caused in the global estimates? That cities show the last 50 years. Could than areal, but 2ºC in that rise, about 2ºC in the global estimates? Tokyo's temperature sunlight than dioxide reasonably increasonably increas, has nothe last 50 years. Tokyo's temperature sunlight that cities increases show ther LISTEN TO ME! Urban do treenhous warming materials; asphalt, for in than areal, building may been unreal, but it have be about it has. Ber-re has ouresults rat www.Ber groject two soline Project www.Berked justed four two pers on ournals. I ch Sure Tempers two yearthe Tempeeply at atures th Surface Prournals. I ch Sur th.org two yearthes on onliny. Ove now paperkeleyEars, We aturnals.

ppphhhhhhtttzzz


This must be a bastardized version of this draft paper:

Link

that shows climatologists have used poor weather station data and artificial "adjsuting" to double the amount of warming the highest quality station data is showing.
 
2012-11-30 07:04:53 PM

Nutsac_Jim: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

Less precipitation? Global warming, give me money!
More precipitation? Global warming, give me money!



Because climate scientists are known for their profit-based motives. 

Feel free to locate a climate researcher making six-figures.
 
2012-11-30 07:07:55 PM
I don't have any snark to bring to this thread. I just wanted to say that Mount Shasta is one of the most beautiful natural features I have had the good fortune to see in person. Even if it was only from I-5.
 
2012-11-30 07:12:55 PM

occamswrist: ivan: Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why you might be.

As many as 757 stations in the United States recorded net surface-temperature cooling over the past century. Many are concentrated in the southeast, where some people attribute tornadoes and hurricanes to warming.

We do not know how much worse are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more. The most important stations in the stations by a team led by meteorologist Anthony Watts showed that, by the U.S. are included in temperature-stations in temperature uncertainties of between two and five degrees Celsius or more.

We know and caused in the global estimates? That cities show the last 50 years. Could than areal, but 2ºC in that rise, about 2ºC in the global estimates? Tokyo's temperature sunlight than dioxide reasonably increasonably increas, has nothe last 50 years. Tokyo's temperature sunlight that cities increases show ther LISTEN TO ME! Urban do treenhous warming materials; asphalt, for in than areal, building may been unreal, but it have be about it has. Ber-re has ouresults rat www.Ber groject two soline Project www.Berked justed four two pers on ournals. I ch Sure Tempers two yearthe Tempeeply at atures th Surface Prournals. I ch Sur th.org two yearthes on onliny. Ove now paperkeleyEars, We aturnals.

ppphhhhhhtttzzz

This must be a bastardized version of this draft paper:

Link

that shows climatologists have used poor weather station data and artificial "adjsuting" to double the amount of warming the highest quality station data is showing.



You're serious.

A meteorologist with a blog is calling out climatologists in their own field:

"I fully accept the previous findings of these papers, including that of the Muller et al 2012 paper. These investigators found exactly what would be expected given the siting metadata they had. However, the Leroy 1999 site rating method employed to create the early metadata, and employed in the Fall et al 2011 paper I co-authored was incomplete, and didn't properly quantify the effects.

The new rating method employed finds that station siting does indeed have a significant effect on temperature trends."


Anthony Watts is the Dean Chambers of climate change.
 
2012-11-30 07:18:21 PM

Wrathskellar: Climbed that sucker a couple years ago. Plenty of snow left in August. Not sure why TFA used a 1984 file photo. Here's one from Monday:

[www.anony.ws image 800x478]

/ yeah, comparing Atlanta to a 14,000 foot mountain top is pretty silly


A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?
 
2012-11-30 07:20:46 PM

Lando Lincoln: The note I leave behind after I go on a murderous rampage will read:

"I did it because people can't understand the difference between weather and global climate change."


Go for it. Like I said yesterday, anyone who thinks that "global warming" means it will never get cold again, or "global cooling" means it will never get hot again, deserves to die being massacred by a Farker in an insane killing frenzy, and nobody will miss them.
 
2012-11-30 07:21:15 PM

RodneyToady: That's pretty McNasty.


Is it sad that i get that joke?
 
2012-11-30 07:22:56 PM
It is NOT global Climate Change! It IS System Wide Climate Change. Every Planet in this Solar System is being warmed. It's all because My Ex loves her big assed Truck!

/To intelligent to give a fark
//likes to watch you idiots argue
///3 weeks left, RUN MOTHER TRUCKER!
 
2012-11-30 07:27:06 PM

traylor: Yay global warming

[ll.broadbandsports.com image 640x480]


www.nastyhobbit.org
 
2012-11-30 07:31:21 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?


Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too.
 
2012-11-30 07:37:52 PM

Linkster: /To intelligent to give a fark


Nice.
 
2012-11-30 07:40:12 PM
If those numbers seem a little too hard to wrap your mind around, consider this:
[snip]
If the tallest living player in NBA history, Gheorghe Muresan, were to balance a life-size wax statue of himself on his head, two feet of snow would bury the top of the statue.


Yeah, because that is *so much* clearer than actual numbers.

Still pretty cool. Now I want to go snowboarding.
 
2012-11-30 07:46:27 PM

Wrathskellar: Glissade back down was pretty cool too.


By far, the most fun of all! My sister lives out A-12, in Lake Shastina. My mom owned a ranch outside of Grenada. I grew up in Yreka and Fort Jones. I miss it so much. I hope to be up there in the Spring.
 
2012-11-30 07:50:04 PM

skullkrusher: zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.

it's "Don't talk about thermodynamics".
Duh



I was gonna say that, but it's still good advice. Especially when you're talkng to Creationists, Zero Energy Cranks and Global Warming Deniers. In fact, just don't talk about it unless you have a web link close to hand.
 
2012-11-30 07:55:31 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Wrathskellar: Glissade back down was pretty cool too.

By far, the most fun of all! My sister lives out A-12, in Lake Shastina. My mom owned a ranch outside of Grenada. I grew up in Yreka and Fort Jones. I miss it so much. I hope to be up there in the Spring.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VckHIQjKLS8

I go for the outside pass a minute in.
 
2012-11-30 07:59:28 PM
i1177.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-30 08:11:55 PM
i1177.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-30 08:21:28 PM

Wrathskellar: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Wrathskellar: Glissade back down was pretty cool too.

By far, the most fun of all! My sister lives out A-12, in Lake Shastina. My mom owned a ranch outside of Grenada. I grew up in Yreka and Fort Jones. I miss it so much. I hope to be up there in the Spring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VckHIQjKLS8

I go for the outside pass a minute in.


That's an awesome video. The north side is steeper but a more direct climb. We went up to the right of the black finger that points to the summit in the picture from the article:

i.imwx.com

We took off our crampons at the top, and did a standing glissade. Like telemark skiing, taking 50-60 foot strides. I hit some glare ice, and almost reached terminal velocity as my ice axe was just skittering off the surface. If I hadn't had my wrist loop on, I'd have slid 2,000 feet without stopping. Scared the hell out of me. We got back to the treeline, and the tent was GONE! High winds had carried it about 500 yards from where we'd bivvied. We found it just as it was getting too dark to see.

Have you been up Mount Eddy? That's another good climb, and it's on the PCT.
 
2012-11-30 08:22:18 PM
There is a whole lotta WOOOOOSH in this here thread! Totally popcorn worthy.
 
2012-11-30 08:24:17 PM
i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-30 08:34:34 PM

titwrench: Wrathskellar: Climbed that sucker a couple years ago. Plenty of snow left in August. Not sure why TFA used a 1984 file photo. Here's one from Monday:



/ yeah, comparing Atlanta to a 14,000 foot mountain top is pretty silly

I'm doing Shasta and Whitney next year.


That uh... sounds like the lead in for an 'adult movie'... just thought you might want to know :D
 
2012-11-30 08:41:56 PM

Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

[i.imgur.com image 504x343]


Whenever someone mentions a scientific consensus about climate change, I'm reminded of this Einstein story:

"One Hundred Authors Against Einstein was published in 1931. When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied that to defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact."

Encyclopedia Britannica Source

This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.
 
2012-11-30 08:45:50 PM

skullkrusher: zarberg: I love asking global climate change deniers what the first law of thermodynamics is and then watching them stand there with a dumb look on their face.

it's "Don't talk about thermodynamics".
Duh


LOL

The first law of thermodynamics is:

NO SMOKING

/Sorry, that's actual the first rule of Robot Club.
 
2012-11-30 08:48:19 PM

Wrathskellar: Climbed that sucker a couple years ago. Plenty of snow left in August. Not sure why TFA used a 1984 file photo. Here's one from Monday:

[www.anony.ws image 800x478]

/ yeah, comparing Atlanta to a 14,000 foot mountain top is pretty silly


I dunno
Lived in Atlanta, it was literally a thirty mile wide pile of rocks difficult to climb through and covered with white trash....;
 
2012-11-30 08:48:42 PM

occamswrist: Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

[i.imgur.com image 504x343]

Whenever someone mentions a scientific consensus about climate change, I'm reminded of this Einstein story:

"One Hundred Authors Against Einstein was published in 1931. When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied that to defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact."

Encyclopedia Britannica Source

This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.


Are you waiting for something specific to disprove the scientific consensus? Because a lot of the people who were skeptical of Einstein's Theory of Relativity were waiting for data from observations from a solar eclipse which occurred some years after the theory was introduced. The data observed from the eclipse proved Einstein correct, by the way.
 
2012-11-30 08:57:53 PM

occamswrist: Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

[i.imgur.com image 504x343]

Whenever someone mentions a scientific consensus about climate change, I'm reminded of this Einstein story:

"One Hundred Authors Against Einstein was published in 1931. When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied that to defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact."

Encyclopedia Britannica Source

This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.


"There are other matters about which experts are not agreed. Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. Einstein's view as to the magnitude of the deflection of light by gravitation would have been rejected by all experts not many years ago, yet it proved to be right. Nevertheless the opinion of experts, when it is unanimous, must be accepted by non-experts as more likely to be right than the opposite opinion." - Bertrand Russell On the Value of Scepticism
 
2012-11-30 09:04:33 PM
I see the gullable ones here saying 'Well, NATURALLY it will snow more in the winter and be hotter in the summer'.

Well, make up your mind.

Nice thing about global warming, since its believers say it can't be proved false therefore it can cause any outcome they want it to.

Fools..
 
2012-11-30 09:05:01 PM

Zeno-25: occamswrist: Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

[i.imgur.com image 504x343]

Whenever someone mentions a scientific consensus about climate change, I'm reminded of this Einstein story:

"One Hundred Authors Against Einstein was published in 1931. When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied that to defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact."

Encyclopedia Britannica Source

This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.

Are you waiting for something specific to disprove the scientific consensus? Because a lot of the people who were skeptical of Einstein's Theory of Relativity were waiting for data from observations from a solar eclipse which occurred some years after the theory was introduced. The data observed from the eclipse proved Einstein correct, by the way.


That eclipse was observed in 1919 but the book of 100 physicists I was referring to was published in 1931. Also, I read that solar eclipse data was very poor and shouldn't have been sufficient to prove general relativity. Odd, eh?

Also, Einstein has never been proven correct. His theories can explain phenomenon with a higher degree of precision than previous theories, but it's impossible to *prove* any theory.

Unfortunately the models used to predict global temperatures are not open-source even though they are government funded.

Did Einstein keep his theories and equations proprietary and expect physicists to trust him? Then why should climatologists be allowed to keep their models proprietary and secret?
 
2012-11-30 09:07:56 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: Anthony Watts is the Dean Chambers of climate change.


That's not fair. Let's give precedence its due. Dean Chambers is the Anthony Watts of... um... statistical analysis? Election prognostication? Blogging?
 
2012-11-30 09:11:37 PM
Man, they always post the trollable stories when I am at work.
 
2012-11-30 09:19:27 PM

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons


Came here to say THIS.

skitracks.files.wordpress.com

Unimpressed.
 
2012-11-30 09:24:56 PM
Maybe it should be renamed "Global farked Up Scary Weather".
 
2012-11-30 09:26:09 PM
The warmer tears in this thread are do delicious and sweet.

/why don't you warmers just admit that you are lazy and stupid and resent that other people get to drive cars and you made up global warming to shame them out of jealousy?
 
2012-11-30 09:28:59 PM
Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..


Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.
 
2012-11-30 09:29:19 PM

beta_plus: The warmer tears in this thread are do delicious and sweet.

/why don't you warmers just admit that you are lazy and stupid and resent that other people get to drive cars and you made up global warming to shame them out of jealousy?


Why? Because science proves us right. That's why.

Feel free to read any of the papers on the subject.
 
2012-11-30 09:29:58 PM

phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.


I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.
 
2012-11-30 09:36:04 PM

beta_plus: The warmer tears in this thread are do delicious and sweet.

/why don't you warmers just admit that you are lazy and stupid and resent that other people get to drive cars and you made up global warming to shame them out of jealousy?


Things are warming up because the earth is expanding and the sun is about turn enter into a warmer white phase from its yellow phase. And there's snow on this mountain from the Lemurian city inside it using interdimensional energy devices. Duh.
 
2012-11-30 09:38:19 PM

cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.


And how does that stop global warming?
 
2012-11-30 09:44:28 PM
For years growing up in Atlanta I have joked that if you added up all of the snow I have seen in my life it would be equivalent to a good snowfall out west.

By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.

Now I know I was more right than I knew.
 
2012-11-30 09:45:53 PM

OnlyM3: Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result...


img62.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-30 09:54:10 PM

ManRay: For years growing up in Atlanta I have joked that if you added up all of the snow I have seen in my life it would be equivalent to a good snowfall out west.

By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.

Now I know I was more right than I knew.


Being from savannah, and living here for more than a quarter of a century on and off, it has snowed literally 5-6 times and only once did it accumulate and late until 3:00PM before it was gone in '89.
 
2012-11-30 10:11:21 PM

phunkey_monkey: cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.

And how does that stop global warming?


What, do you suppose, is the underlying cause of man-made global warming?
 
2012-11-30 10:13:10 PM
I live just north of there on the oregon border. With all the rain we're getting, I can honestly say they might get it....
 
2012-11-30 10:24:30 PM

cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.

And how does that stop global warming?

What, do you suppose, is the underlying cause of man-made global warming?


It's either Al Gore's house or scientists wanting new Lamborghinis.
 
2012-11-30 10:32:03 PM
Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

imageshack.us 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.
 
2012-11-30 10:34:14 PM

New Age Redneck: Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

[imageshack.us image 640x402] 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.


That is....surreal.
 
2012-11-30 10:39:09 PM

cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.

And how does that stop global warming?

What, do you suppose, is the underlying cause of man-made global warming?


Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.
 
2012-11-30 10:42:01 PM

occamswrist: Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

[i.imgur.com image 504x343]

Whenever someone mentions a scientific consensus about climate change, I'm reminded of this Einstein story:

"One Hundred Authors Against Einstein was published in 1931. When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied that to defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact."

Encyclopedia Britannica Source

This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.



Are you saying that you reject ACC because 97% of climatologists agree that it's occurring? If not, then why? What evidence has convinced you that the climatologists are wrong?
 
2012-11-30 10:47:10 PM

douchebag/hater: I see the gullable ones here saying 'Well, NATURALLY it will snow more in the winter and be hotter in the summer'.

Well, make up your mind.



The connection between increased temperature (up to the freezing point) and increased snowfall has been explained to Fark Deniers repeatedly.

Open your mind.


Nice thing about global warming, since its believers say it can't be proved false therefore it can cause any outcome they want it to.

Fools..



Citation needed, fool.
 
2012-11-30 10:47:13 PM

occamswrist: This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.


So what's the "just one fact" that negates global warming?
 
2012-11-30 10:58:43 PM
subby, and some of the "experts" on here, should have studied a little more science in school, like meteorology and/or climatology, then he/they might understand how this kind of shiat works.

/how it's going to play out in the end is still up in the air, so to speak.
 
2012-11-30 11:14:52 PM

New Age Redneck: Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

[imageshack.us image 640x402] 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.


I love these shots. I have an identical one of Mt. Hood.
 
2012-11-30 11:17:22 PM
Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.
 
2012-11-30 11:27:31 PM
phunkey_monkey:

Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.


And that would also be a "citation needed." Maybe you should ask say... The DuPont corporation. They saved something like $5B so far through conservation. (PDF from DuPont, pops)

It's a fun meme among the deniers who say "THOSE WARMISTS WANT US TO LIVE IN CAVES!" that really doesn't follow through in the real world.
 
2012-11-30 11:27:47 PM

Benjimin_Dover: Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.


Better luck next time. Maybe you should get your priorities straight.

1. Check global warming threads on Fark
2. Live life.
 
2012-11-30 11:29:14 PM
Benjimin_Dover:

Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.

Well, if you'd like to explain how Mt. Shasta is global, I for one would love to hear it.
 
2012-11-30 11:37:26 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Have you been up Mount Eddy? That's another good climb, and it's on the PCT.


I'll give Mt. Eddy a "+1, would climb again". Did Mt. Eddy a few years prior to Shasta, and was longing to get over there. When I eventually did, it was under a full moon. We climbed from Helen up to the Red Banks with T-shirts on (early August). Once we hit the top of the Banks, we threw on every item of clothing we owned; it was fiercely cold and windy. We hit the summit about one minute before sunrise; enough to get a gander of the mystical pyramid-shaped shadow and get the fark out of there. Cool in every sense.
 
2012-11-30 11:53:31 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons

Came here to say THIS.

[skitracks.files.wordpress.com image 300x196]

Unimpressed.



That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.
 
2012-11-30 11:57:14 PM

kmmontandon: Your Average Witty Fark User: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons

Came here to say THIS.

[skitracks.files.wordpress.com image 300x196]

Unimpressed.


That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.


I visited Lassen in early summer 1989 and there was still significant snow pack on the ground. And they were pissed about Mt. St. Helens. No longer the most recently volcanically active spot in the US
 
2012-12-01 12:16:15 AM

maxheck: Benjimin_Dover:

Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.

Well, if you'd like to explain how Mt. Shasta is global, I for one would love to hear it.


Who said that? Need some salve for that?
 
2012-12-01 12:20:02 AM

Gyrfalcon: New Age Redneck: Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

[imageshack.us image 640x402] 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.

That is....surreal.


Yeah, I don't wanna say it's aliens but...
damn Earth is a really fascinating place. I wish I had the time and money to really get out and see it all.
 
2012-12-01 12:48:34 AM

kmmontandon: That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.


Excepting, of course, for the minor little fact that NOAA states that Baker receives more snowfall than Lassen, well, the highest average annual fall anywhere they measure, to be specific (701" average at the ski resort). (There's a reason the mentions of Lassen's precipitation amounts end with the qualifier "...south of the Three Sisters volcanoes.")

Oh, and there's also that whole world record snowfall thing (95 feet).
 
2012-12-01 01:26:27 AM

maxheck: phunkey_monkey:

Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.

And that would also be a "citation needed." Maybe you should ask say... The DuPont corporation. They saved something like $5B so far through conservation. (PDF from DuPont, pops)

It's a fun meme among the deniers who say "THOSE WARMISTS WANT US TO LIVE IN CAVES!" that really doesn't follow through in the real world.


Now can you list some of the less than mufti-billion companies that have forced to close because of brutal over regulation and taxation? Will you deny that there are none?

I don't believe that the mast majority of warmiists want us to live in caves, I believe that warmists have no problem with the use of punitive means to force conservation.
 
2012-12-01 04:05:01 AM

OnlyM3: dethmagnetic

HURR IT SNOWED SO GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE DURRRR
No, what you claimed was fact has been proven to be junk science yet again, so all you have is ad hominem.

Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result... are actually growing, not shrinking.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your religion.


"but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern"

Did you even read the rest of the article that YOU linked?

/asshat
 
2012-12-01 05:30:54 AM

IRQ12: Begoggle: ANGRY COMMENT!!!

smug retort


Dismissive, insulting reply using the word `denier`
 
2012-12-01 05:31:02 AM
Causation =/ Correlation.

OH ITS WARMER THIS YEAR! ITS COOLER THIS YEAR! OH ITS GLOBAL WARMING, OH ITS ALL OUR FAULT.

There are so many different, unknown factors in large scale thermodynamics applied here. It's nearly impossible to prove or disprove global warming. I don't personally condone the extra CO2 added nor do I think its alright to pollute our environment, but it's egotistical at best to say we are the direct cause of such a temperature change.



This is the last time I will comment on this bs that people like to call global warming.

/follow the money, it leads to greedy scientist.
//EPA is batshiat insane
//freon is far less expensive then their expensive, eco friendly variations.
 
2012-12-01 05:33:48 AM

occamswrist: dericwater: And Ms Shasta is going to receive 2.4 inches of my global warming this weekend.

/Lots of pounding, driving warming.

You missed a decimal point in there but I fixed it for you. No, you don't have to thank me.


FTFY
 
2012-12-01 08:34:31 AM
It's almost like "temperature" and "precipitation" are two separate concepts!
 
2012-12-01 08:35:52 AM
218 inches is what subby's mom gets every night.
 
2012-12-01 09:54:33 AM

IRQ12: gunther_bumpass: IRQ12: All of the sudden I want a pop.

You mean a soda?

No, I mean a Ssssshasta!


wow.
please let that stay dead

/sometimes dead is better
 
2012-12-01 10:08:42 AM

viscountalpha: Causation =/ Correlation.

OH ITS WARMER THIS YEAR! ITS COOLER THIS YEAR! OH ITS GLOBAL WARMING, OH ITS ALL OUR FAULT.

There are so many different, unknown factors in large scale thermodynamics applied here. It's nearly impossible to prove or disprove global warming. I don't personally condone the extra CO2 added nor do I think its alright to pollute our environment, but it's egotistical at best to say we are the direct cause of such a temperature change.



This is the last time I will comment on this bs that people like to call global warming.

/follow the money, it leads to greedy scientist.
//EPA is batshiat insane
//freon is far less expensive then their expensive, eco friendly variations.


Confusing ozone depletion with climate change is a sure fire way to show you've really studied the issues at hand.
 
2012-12-01 10:22:53 AM
phunkey_monkey:

maxheck: phunkey_monkey:

Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.

And that would also be a "citation needed." Maybe you should ask say... The DuPont corporation. They saved something like $5B so far through conservation. (PDF from DuPont, pops)

It's a fun meme among the deniers who say "THOSE WARMISTS WANT US TO LIVE IN CAVES!" that really doesn't follow through in the real world.

Now can you list some of the less than mufti-billion companies that have forced to close because of brutal over regulation and taxation? Will you deny that there are none?

I don't believe that the mast majority of warmiists want us to live in caves, I believe that warmists have no problem with the use of punitive means to force conservation.


Then you'll have no problem coming up with examples to support your argument, rather than just making a bald assertion and telling others to do your research for you, right? Because you know what you're talking about?

For some strange reason I suspect you're just repeating talking points that you haven't thought through.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-12-01 11:36:01 AM

JackieRabbit: So far their predictions are dead-on.


Indeed they are. Which is exactly why one storm or a colder winter or a wetter summer has fark-all to do with climate change.
 
2012-12-01 03:04:31 PM

kmmontandon: Your Average Witty Fark User: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons

Came here to say THIS.

[skitracks.files.wordpress.com image 300x196]

Unimpressed.


That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.


Get back to me when Lassen gets over 1,000 inches of snow. I won't hold my breath.
 
2012-12-01 07:34:02 PM

kmmontandon: Nutsac_Jim: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

Less precipitation? Global warming, give me money!
More precipitation? Global warming, give me money!


Because climate scientists are known for their profit-based motives. 

Feel free to locate a climate researcher making six-figures.


Yes and you can assume that scientists are completely altruistic, and have no motivation to secure the limited scientific research funding. After all humans are never motivated to make themselves and their jobs seems valuable.

"Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"
 
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