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(The Weather Channel)   Mt. Shasta may receive a record-shattering 218 inches of global warming this weekend   (weather.com) divider line 197
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2012-11-30 09:07:56 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Anthony Watts is the Dean Chambers of climate change.


That's not fair. Let's give precedence its due. Dean Chambers is the Anthony Watts of... um... statistical analysis? Election prognostication? Blogging?
 
2012-11-30 09:11:37 PM  
Man, they always post the trollable stories when I am at work.
 
2012-11-30 09:19:27 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons


Came here to say THIS.

skitracks.files.wordpress.com

Unimpressed.
 
2012-11-30 09:24:56 PM  
Maybe it should be renamed "Global farked Up Scary Weather".
 
2012-11-30 09:26:09 PM  
The warmer tears in this thread are do delicious and sweet.

/why don't you warmers just admit that you are lazy and stupid and resent that other people get to drive cars and you made up global warming to shame them out of jealousy?
 
2012-11-30 09:28:59 PM  
Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..


Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.
 
2012-11-30 09:29:19 PM  

beta_plus: The warmer tears in this thread are do delicious and sweet.

/why don't you warmers just admit that you are lazy and stupid and resent that other people get to drive cars and you made up global warming to shame them out of jealousy?


Why? Because science proves us right. That's why.

Feel free to read any of the papers on the subject.
 
2012-11-30 09:29:58 PM  

phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.


I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.
 
2012-11-30 09:36:04 PM  

beta_plus: The warmer tears in this thread are do delicious and sweet.

/why don't you warmers just admit that you are lazy and stupid and resent that other people get to drive cars and you made up global warming to shame them out of jealousy?


Things are warming up because the earth is expanding and the sun is about turn enter into a warmer white phase from its yellow phase. And there's snow on this mountain from the Lemurian city inside it using interdimensional energy devices. Duh.
 
2012-11-30 09:38:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.


And how does that stop global warming?
 
2012-11-30 09:44:28 PM  
For years growing up in Atlanta I have joked that if you added up all of the snow I have seen in my life it would be equivalent to a good snowfall out west.

By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.

Now I know I was more right than I knew.
 
2012-11-30 09:45:53 PM  

OnlyM3: Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result...


img62.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-30 09:54:10 PM  

ManRay: For years growing up in Atlanta I have joked that if you added up all of the snow I have seen in my life it would be equivalent to a good snowfall out west.

By comparison, Atlanta, Ga., has reported 38.9 inches of snow since March 1, 1989 -- a period of over 23 years.

Now I know I was more right than I knew.


Being from savannah, and living here for more than a quarter of a century on and off, it has snowed literally 5-6 times and only once did it accumulate and late until 3:00PM before it was gone in '89.
 
2012-11-30 10:11:21 PM  

phunkey_monkey: cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.

And how does that stop global warming?


What, do you suppose, is the underlying cause of man-made global warming?
 
2012-11-30 10:13:10 PM  
I live just north of there on the oregon border. With all the rain we're getting, I can honestly say they might get it....
 
2012-11-30 10:24:30 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.

And how does that stop global warming?

What, do you suppose, is the underlying cause of man-made global warming?


It's either Al Gore's house or scientists wanting new Lamborghinis.
 
2012-11-30 10:32:03 PM  
Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

imageshack.us 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.
 
2012-11-30 10:34:14 PM  

New Age Redneck: Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

[imageshack.us image 640x402] 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.


That is....surreal.
 
2012-11-30 10:39:09 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: cameroncrazy1984: phunkey_monkey: Wook

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of potential solutions to global warming climate change that does not involve increasing taxes? I never really understood how taxing producers more money will reduce change the global temperature. I don't mean to over simplify..

Looks like no leftie has the answer to that one.

I guess you've never heard of carbon credits.

And how does that stop global warming?

What, do you suppose, is the underlying cause of man-made global warming?


Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.
 
2012-11-30 10:42:01 PM  

occamswrist: Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

[i.imgur.com image 504x343]

Whenever someone mentions a scientific consensus about climate change, I'm reminded of this Einstein story:

"One Hundred Authors Against Einstein was published in 1931. When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied that to defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact."

Encyclopedia Britannica Source

This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.



Are you saying that you reject ACC because 97% of climatologists agree that it's occurring? If not, then why? What evidence has convinced you that the climatologists are wrong?
 
2012-11-30 10:47:10 PM  

douchebag/hater: I see the gullable ones here saying 'Well, NATURALLY it will snow more in the winter and be hotter in the summer'.

Well, make up your mind.



The connection between increased temperature (up to the freezing point) and increased snowfall has been explained to Fark Deniers repeatedly.

Open your mind.


Nice thing about global warming, since its believers say it can't be proved false therefore it can cause any outcome they want it to.

Fools..



Citation needed, fool.
 
2012-11-30 10:47:13 PM  

occamswrist: This isn't to say that the current band of climatologists are as wrong as the euclidean physicists, just that the "consensus argument" is an appeal to authority and I reject it categorically.


So what's the "just one fact" that negates global warming?
 
2012-11-30 10:58:43 PM  
subby, and some of the "experts" on here, should have studied a little more science in school, like meteorology and/or climatology, then he/they might understand how this kind of shiat works.

/how it's going to play out in the end is still up in the air, so to speak.
 
2012-11-30 11:14:52 PM  

New Age Redneck: Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

[imageshack.us image 640x402] 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.


I love these shots. I have an identical one of Mt. Hood.
 
2012-11-30 11:17:22 PM  
Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.
 
2012-11-30 11:27:31 PM  
phunkey_monkey:

Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.


And that would also be a "citation needed." Maybe you should ask say... The DuPont corporation. They saved something like $5B so far through conservation. (PDF from DuPont, pops)

It's a fun meme among the deniers who say "THOSE WARMISTS WANT US TO LIVE IN CAVES!" that really doesn't follow through in the real world.
 
2012-11-30 11:27:47 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.


Better luck next time. Maybe you should get your priorities straight.

1. Check global warming threads on Fark
2. Live life.
 
2012-11-30 11:29:14 PM  
Benjimin_Dover:

Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.

Well, if you'd like to explain how Mt. Shasta is global, I for one would love to hear it.
 
2012-11-30 11:37:26 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Have you been up Mount Eddy? That's another good climb, and it's on the PCT.


I'll give Mt. Eddy a "+1, would climb again". Did Mt. Eddy a few years prior to Shasta, and was longing to get over there. When I eventually did, it was under a full moon. We climbed from Helen up to the Red Banks with T-shirts on (early August). Once we hit the top of the Banks, we threw on every item of clothing we owned; it was fiercely cold and windy. We hit the summit about one minute before sunrise; enough to get a gander of the mystical pyramid-shaped shadow and get the fark out of there. Cool in every sense.
 
2012-11-30 11:53:31 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons

Came here to say THIS.

[skitracks.files.wordpress.com image 300x196]

Unimpressed.



That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.
 
2012-11-30 11:57:14 PM  

kmmontandon: Your Average Witty Fark User: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons

Came here to say THIS.

[skitracks.files.wordpress.com image 300x196]

Unimpressed.


That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.


I visited Lassen in early summer 1989 and there was still significant snow pack on the ground. And they were pissed about Mt. St. Helens. No longer the most recently volcanically active spot in the US
 
2012-12-01 12:16:15 AM  

maxheck: Benjimin_Dover:

Damn. I didn't get in before the warmers with their hurt butts crying about how climate doesn't have anything do with weather.

Well, if you'd like to explain how Mt. Shasta is global, I for one would love to hear it.


Who said that? Need some salve for that?
 
2012-12-01 12:20:02 AM  

Gyrfalcon: New Age Redneck: Wrathskellar

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: A friend and I climbed it about 18 years ago, in April. We went up Military Pass on the north side, on snowmobiles to 8,000 feet, then hiked to the treeline for bivouac. Which side did you climb, and what time of year?

Snowmobiles to 8000 ft = awesome.

We did the Avalanche Gulch route in August. Overnight at Helen Lake, then crampons and ice axes up the snow field at about 3:00 am. The view at dawn from the Red Banks was unbelievable as the mountain cast an 80 mile long triangular shadow across the valley to the west. Glissade back down was pretty cool too. 

[imageshack.us image 640x402] 

I climbed a volcano called El Misti (19,200 ft.) in Peru. That picture is the shadow it cast at sunset shot from a bivi at 3500m. I know what you mean when you say unbelievable...the picture does not do it justice.

That is....surreal.


Yeah, I don't wanna say it's aliens but...
damn Earth is a really fascinating place. I wish I had the time and money to really get out and see it all.
 
2012-12-01 12:48:34 AM  

kmmontandon: That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.


Excepting, of course, for the minor little fact that NOAA states that Baker receives more snowfall than Lassen, well, the highest average annual fall anywhere they measure, to be specific (701" average at the ski resort). (There's a reason the mentions of Lassen's precipitation amounts end with the qualifier "...south of the Three Sisters volcanoes.")

Oh, and there's also that whole world record snowfall thing (95 feet).
 
2012-12-01 01:26:27 AM  

maxheck: phunkey_monkey:

Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.

And that would also be a "citation needed." Maybe you should ask say... The DuPont corporation. They saved something like $5B so far through conservation. (PDF from DuPont, pops)

It's a fun meme among the deniers who say "THOSE WARMISTS WANT US TO LIVE IN CAVES!" that really doesn't follow through in the real world.


Now can you list some of the less than mufti-billion companies that have forced to close because of brutal over regulation and taxation? Will you deny that there are none?

I don't believe that the mast majority of warmiists want us to live in caves, I believe that warmists have no problem with the use of punitive means to force conservation.
 
2012-12-01 04:05:01 AM  

OnlyM3: dethmagnetic

HURR IT SNOWED SO GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE DURRRR
No, what you claimed was fact has been proven to be junk science yet again, so all you have is ad hominem.

Glaciers warmers claimed would be gone by now (and drown millions as a result... are actually growing, not shrinking.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your religion.


"but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern"

Did you even read the rest of the article that YOU linked?

/asshat
 
2012-12-01 05:30:54 AM  

IRQ12: Begoggle: ANGRY COMMENT!!!

smug retort


Dismissive, insulting reply using the word `denier`
 
2012-12-01 05:31:02 AM  
Causation =/ Correlation.

OH ITS WARMER THIS YEAR! ITS COOLER THIS YEAR! OH ITS GLOBAL WARMING, OH ITS ALL OUR FAULT.

There are so many different, unknown factors in large scale thermodynamics applied here. It's nearly impossible to prove or disprove global warming. I don't personally condone the extra CO2 added nor do I think its alright to pollute our environment, but it's egotistical at best to say we are the direct cause of such a temperature change.



This is the last time I will comment on this bs that people like to call global warming.

/follow the money, it leads to greedy scientist.
//EPA is batshiat insane
//freon is far less expensive then their expensive, eco friendly variations.
 
2012-12-01 05:33:48 AM  

occamswrist: dericwater: And Ms Shasta is going to receive 2.4 inches of my global warming this weekend.

/Lots of pounding, driving warming.

You missed a decimal point in there but I fixed it for you. No, you don't have to thank me.


FTFY
 
2012-12-01 08:34:31 AM  
It's almost like "temperature" and "precipitation" are two separate concepts!
 
2012-12-01 08:35:52 AM  
218 inches is what subby's mom gets every night.
 
2012-12-01 09:54:33 AM  

IRQ12: gunther_bumpass: IRQ12: All of the sudden I want a pop.

You mean a soda?

No, I mean a Ssssshasta!


wow.
please let that stay dead

/sometimes dead is better
 
2012-12-01 10:08:42 AM  

viscountalpha: Causation =/ Correlation.

OH ITS WARMER THIS YEAR! ITS COOLER THIS YEAR! OH ITS GLOBAL WARMING, OH ITS ALL OUR FAULT.

There are so many different, unknown factors in large scale thermodynamics applied here. It's nearly impossible to prove or disprove global warming. I don't personally condone the extra CO2 added nor do I think its alright to pollute our environment, but it's egotistical at best to say we are the direct cause of such a temperature change.



This is the last time I will comment on this bs that people like to call global warming.

/follow the money, it leads to greedy scientist.
//EPA is batshiat insane
//freon is far less expensive then their expensive, eco friendly variations.


Confusing ozone depletion with climate change is a sure fire way to show you've really studied the issues at hand.
 
2012-12-01 10:22:53 AM  
phunkey_monkey:

maxheck: phunkey_monkey:

Christians are at fault for everything of course. At least that is the consensus here on fark.

Please explain to me how making everything produced more expensive is going to stop global warming.

And that would also be a "citation needed." Maybe you should ask say... The DuPont corporation. They saved something like $5B so far through conservation. (PDF from DuPont, pops)

It's a fun meme among the deniers who say "THOSE WARMISTS WANT US TO LIVE IN CAVES!" that really doesn't follow through in the real world.

Now can you list some of the less than mufti-billion companies that have forced to close because of brutal over regulation and taxation? Will you deny that there are none?

I don't believe that the mast majority of warmiists want us to live in caves, I believe that warmists have no problem with the use of punitive means to force conservation.


Then you'll have no problem coming up with examples to support your argument, rather than just making a bald assertion and telling others to do your research for you, right? Because you know what you're talking about?

For some strange reason I suspect you're just repeating talking points that you haven't thought through.
 
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2012-12-01 11:36:01 AM  

JackieRabbit: So far their predictions are dead-on.


Indeed they are. Which is exactly why one storm or a colder winter or a wetter summer has fark-all to do with climate change.
 
2012-12-01 03:04:31 PM  

kmmontandon: Your Average Witty Fark User: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: l

Mt. Baker says "LOL WUT?" to these weak comparisons

Came here to say THIS.

[skitracks.files.wordpress.com image 300x196]

Unimpressed.


That's pretty standard for late-spring up at Lassen. Hell, early summer.


Get back to me when Lassen gets over 1,000 inches of snow. I won't hold my breath.
 
2012-12-01 07:34:02 PM  

kmmontandon: Nutsac_Jim: cameroncrazy1984: RobertBruce: Also has a glacier which has been "inexplicably" growing the past few years.

It's not inexplicable. Warmer air causes more moisture in the atmosphere which then freezes at altitude. Bam, growing glacier.

Less precipitation? Global warming, give me money!
More precipitation? Global warming, give me money!


Because climate scientists are known for their profit-based motives. 

Feel free to locate a climate researcher making six-figures.


Yes and you can assume that scientists are completely altruistic, and have no motivation to secure the limited scientific research funding. After all humans are never motivated to make themselves and their jobs seems valuable.

"Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"
 
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