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(New York Daily News)   Mike Lupica: Bush the elder wouldn't survive in the current Republican Party because he has a soul, he is a man of character and a gentleman. Maybe he wasn't a great President, but he's led such a great American life   (nydailynews.com) divider line 132
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2012-11-30 10:22:34 AM  
He has a soul? Thats news.
 
2012-11-30 10:30:49 AM  
I think I can see that.
 
2012-11-30 10:35:39 AM  
No, he wouldn't survive because he's dying in the hospital.
 
2012-11-30 10:50:35 AM  
I recall him withholding loan guarantees from Israel in 1991 to force them to the bargaining table. He withstood pressure to send the army into Iraq during the first gulf war as it was not part of the UN mandate and would have split the coalition. He also raised taxes. In today's republican party he would be crucified. And then there is this........
www.achievement.org
Shot down and almost killed for putting his money where his mouth was.

When I lived in Houston he ordered from the same pizza joint I did and used the same blockbuster store. Would see him as the Astros game occasionally sipping beer. He seemed very unpretentious and laid-back.
 
2012-11-30 11:16:17 AM  
Screw him. I voted for Dukakis and his eyebrows of power.
 
2012-11-30 11:59:40 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: When I lived in Houston he ordered from the same pizza joint I did and used the same blockbuster store. Would see him as the Astros game occasionally sipping beer. He seemed very unpretentious and laid-back.


My high school band played at a fundraiser for him when he was still VP and gearing up for his Presidential run. He came over and introduced himself and chatted with us for a moment. He seemed like a very nice guy, didn't seem to be forcing his politeness at all. He actually stopped at our high school before the fundraiser and took a run with the cross country team.
 
2012-11-30 12:36:15 PM  
Poppy Bush is everything his son is not.

I hope he gets better.
 
2012-11-30 01:01:09 PM  
Well, that and he was involved in the Kennedy assassination.

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2012-11-30 01:04:47 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Poppy Bush is everything his son is not.


W's presidency was the best thing that ever happened to him. It's so much easier to look back at his term fondly when you compare it to the clusterfark that was the sequel.
 
2012-11-30 01:11:55 PM  
In a healthier democracy, his involvement in IranContra would have, at a minimum, disqualified him from ever again holding any elected office.

That said, he was saner than Reagan.
 
2012-11-30 01:32:45 PM  

FishyFred: DjangoStonereaver: Poppy Bush is everything his son is not.

W's presidency was the best thing that ever happened to him. It's so much easier to look back at his term fondly when you compare it to the clusterfark that was the sequel.


Don't get me wrong: Bush was no prize (after all, he managed to squander a 90% approval rating a year before a
presidential election), but he wasn't an idealogue, and he had enough wisdom to keep the hawks from getting us into
a protracted war in Iraq (though he did completely abandon support for the Kurds in the process, which was
shameful).

But, in the end, he was a far better president than his son.
 
2012-11-30 01:41:51 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: I recall him withholding loan guarantees from Israel in 1991 to force them to the bargaining table. He withstood pressure to send the army into Iraq during the first gulf war as it was not part of the UN mandate and would have split the coalition. He also raised taxes. In today's republican party he would be crucified. And then there is this........
[www.achievement.org image 316x396]
Shot down and almost killed for putting his money where his mouth was.

When I lived in Houston he ordered from the same pizza joint I did and used the same blockbuster store. Would see him as the Astros game occasionally sipping beer. He seemed very unpretentious and laid-back.


I never quite understood the "wimp" nonsense. He may not have had a commanding stage presence, but he was anything but a wimp. Cripes...he could probably kill you with paperclip.
 
2012-11-30 02:16:04 PM  
Eh... *hand wiggle*
 
2012-11-30 02:22:42 PM  

GAT_00: Eh... *hand wiggle*


"up and down jerk-off motion"
 
2012-11-30 02:23:22 PM  
When Mike Lupica is the voice of reason on anything it's pretty bad.
 
2012-11-30 02:25:01 PM  

Diogenes: Red Shirt Blues: I recall him withholding loan guarantees from Israel in 1991 to force them to the bargaining table. He withstood pressure to send the army into Iraq during the first gulf war as it was not part of the UN mandate and would have split the coalition. He also raised taxes. In today's republican party he would be crucified. And then there is this........
[www.achievement.org image 316x396]
Shot down and almost killed for putting his money where his mouth was.

When I lived in Houston he ordered from the same pizza joint I did and used the same blockbuster store. Would see him as the Astros game occasionally sipping beer. He seemed very unpretentious and laid-back.

I never quite understood the "wimp" nonsense. He may not have had a commanding stage presence, but he was anything but a wimp. Cripes...he could probably kill you with paperclip.


Well, he did marry a sociopathic biatch from hell. So there is that.
 
2012-11-30 02:25:26 PM  

Pincy: GAT_00: Eh... *hand wiggle*

"up and down jerk-off motion"


*jazz hands*
 
2012-11-30 02:25:34 PM  
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2012-11-30 02:26:22 PM  

elffster: He has a soul? Thats news.


Wait, are you talking about Bush or Lupica?

/I heard he was a first-class asshole.
 
2012-11-30 02:26:42 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: I recall him withholding loan guarantees from Israel in 1991 to force them to the bargaining table. He withstood pressure to send the army into Iraq during the first gulf war as it was not part of the UN mandate and would have split the coalition. He also raised taxes. In today's republican party he would be crucified. And then there is this........
[www.achievement.org image 316x396]
Shot down and almost killed for putting his money where his mouth was.

When I lived in Houston he ordered from the same pizza joint I did and used the same blockbuster store. Would see him as the Astros game occasionally sipping beer. He seemed very unpretentious and laid-back.


He was crucified for "Read my lips, no new taxes." While his father might have been a nazi sympathize, one of his sons a thief, and another a threat to the republic, when push came to shove and he had to choose his ambitions or his country, he chose country. And he was the last republican anywhere to do so. I'll always remember him for that.
 
2012-11-30 02:27:35 PM  
George H. W. Bush also said at one point that atheists should not be citizens of the USA.

fark him in the neck.
 
2012-11-30 02:27:42 PM  
Sure, he used his CIA connections to negotiate with Iranian hostage takers prior to the 1980 election, but he looks so much like my Gampy!!!!


I see Bush I is going to receive the same Vaseline-on-the-lens treatment Reagan got when he kicked off.
 
2012-11-30 02:27:46 PM  
He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.
 
2012-11-30 02:28:31 PM  
Reagan wouldn't either.
 
2012-11-30 02:30:24 PM  

EyeballKid: Sure, he used his CIA connections to negotiate with Iranian hostage takers prior to the 1980 election, but he looks so much like my Gampy!!!!
I see Bush I is going to receive the same Vaseline-on-the-lens treatment Reagan got when he kicked off.


I'm pretty sure it applies to most US presidents.
 
2012-11-30 02:30:49 PM  

EyeballKid: Sure, he used his CIA connections to negotiate with Iranian hostage takers prior to the 1980 election, but he looks so much like my Gampy!!!!


I see Bush I is going to receive the same Vaseline-on-the-lens treatment Reagan got when he kicked off.


A GOP-furnished statue with a conspicuous spot on the crotch where the paint is worn?
 
2012-11-30 02:30:53 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.


NIXON, YOU DOLT!
 
2012-11-30 02:31:44 PM  

Arkanaut: elffster: He has a soul? Thats news.

Wait, are you talking about Bush or Lupica?

/I heard he was a first-class asshole.


I know Lupica's one.

/read the whole story about "The National"
//I'd forgotten he's an asshole
///fark Lupica
 
2012-11-30 02:31:55 PM  

meat0918: Reagan wouldn't either.


They still celebrate him though. Well, they celebrate their "vision" of Reagan, the same way they celebrate a "vision" of Jesus.

Republican Jesus works as a good term but we need something else for Reagan.
 
2012-11-30 02:32:11 PM  

Gonz: The Jami Turman Fan Club: He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.

NIXON, YOU DOLT!


Ridiculous, Clinton and Obama are both better than Nixon.
 
2012-11-30 02:33:50 PM  

WTF Indeed: When Mike Lupica is the voice of reason on anything it's pretty bad.


No, no, no. The way Bush pardoned 6 Reagan administration officials in order to avoid putting Caspar Weinberger on trial for Iran-Contra was soulful and gentlemanly and showed genuine character.
 
2012-11-30 02:33:57 PM  

tomcatadam: meat0918: Reagan wouldn't either.

They still celebrate him though. Well, they celebrate their "vision" of Reagan, the same way they celebrate a "vision" of Jesus.

Republican Jesus works as a good term but we need something else for Reagan.


Saint Reagan.
 
2012-11-30 02:35:51 PM  
Illegally trading weapons to delay the release of the Iranian hostages seems pretty apple pie to me.
 
2012-11-30 02:37:23 PM  
I voted for him. And I'm not ashamed to admit it.

His son, on the other hand, was a walking disaster... and I saw it coming from Day 1.
 
2012-11-30 02:38:07 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.


I know....with a nod to Nixon (aside from the shenanigans). He was the last of the "Rockefeller" republicans. When he ran for the nomination in 1980 (and got beat by Reagan), he was pro-choice, socially moderate, fiscally some-what conservative. He had to dump some of that because he was Reagan's VP, but for the most part he held to it. I will never understand why republican's look so fondly back at Reagan without realizing that: 1.) he chose a moderate as a running mate 2.) he used to sit down on a regular basis with Tip O'neal and actually try to get work done. Both of these would get you called a RINO now.
 
2012-11-30 02:40:21 PM  
Actually, George H W Bush isn't going to survive the winter, maybe the year.
 
2012-11-30 02:40:32 PM  
George Bush Sr. might have been the only sane Republican President in my life time. And that's not a streak that looks to change any time soon.
 
2012-11-30 02:40:38 PM  
Am taking over a big role in my non-profit organization (de factor leader I guess of 800 peole). A previous leader comes up to me and says "don't worry, so-and-so (revered leader from 30 years ago who was in the role for 30 years) couldn't handle the job in today's world."

Does that mean the guy was naive? Does it mean I am cynical enough to deal with the political bullshiat in the organization? Does it mean that people weren't such assholes 30 years ago?

Looking at Bush the Elder vs. Today's Republicans as a model, it would be the politics. Do you think Bush the Elder would be able to keep the loonies at bay while simultaneously pandering too them? Despite Boehner's severe misgivings, he hasn't completely let the asswipe Tea Partiers take over Congress.

There are lots of simularities in my role. People are self-serving dicks and I have to make them feel welcome and hope they keep active and made their voice heard even though their voice is f*cking nearly retarded.
 
2012-11-30 02:40:49 PM  
H.W. Bush was a fine president. Not a great one, but a fine one. He was prudent.

Had I been of voting age, I would have voted for him. I did vote for his son... once... and that was the end of all Republican voting ever for me forevermore.

But H.W. was allright.
 
2012-11-30 02:41:31 PM  

EyeballKid: Sure, he used his CIA connections to negotiate with Iranian hostage takers prior to the 1980 election, but he looks so much like my Gampy!!!!


I see Bush I is going to receive the same Vaseline-on-the-lens treatment Reagan got when he kicked off.


I remember Nixon's funeral oratory -
 
2012-11-30 02:41:48 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.


Because when it comes to Republican Presidents, brevity is a positive attribute.
 
2012-11-30 02:42:35 PM  

gshepnyc: The Jami Turman Fan Club: He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.

Because when it comes to Republican Presidents, brevity is a positive attribute.


True. If Hinckley had aimed a little closer to the vital organs, Reagan would have won this honor.
 
2012-11-30 02:43:07 PM  

gshepnyc: The Jami Turman Fan Club: He was the best Republican President in the last 50 years.

God that's sad.

Because when it comes to Republican Presidents, brevity is a positive attribute.


Ford was the best GOP president in the last 50 years then?
 
2012-11-30 02:43:25 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Poppy Bush is everything his son is sons are not.

 
2012-11-30 02:44:24 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Poppy Bush is everything his son is male heirs are not.

 
2012-11-30 02:45:38 PM  

Diogenes: I never quite understood the "wimp" nonsense. He may not have had a commanding stage presence, but he was anything but a wimp. Cripes...he could probably kill you with paperclip.


Because appearing tough and strong is much better than actually being tough and strong. In the pant shiatting world of the current GOP, Scott Farkas seems tough, so they are drawn to that sort of bluster. Wish word would spread that Ralphy kicked his ass.
 
2012-11-30 02:46:51 PM  
I don't agree with many of his decisions, but Bush Sr. was attempting to do what he though was best for the country, even if it wasn't necessarily what was best for his party or his personal political career, unlike any of the pissants in the current Republican leadership.
 
2012-11-30 02:47:23 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Pincy: GAT_00: Eh... *hand wiggle*

"up and down jerk-off motion"

*jazz hands*


*spirit fingers*
 
2012-11-30 02:47:41 PM  
HW was alright.

Voted for him the first time, but not the second time. Why? His campaign was more "we did everything we need to do already, so why change now?"
 
2012-11-30 02:48:52 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: H.W. Bush was a fine president. Not a great one, but a fine one. He was prudent.

Had I been of voting age, I would have voted for him. I did vote for his son... once... and that was the end of all Republican voting ever for me forevermore.

But H.W. was allright.


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