Marcus Aurelius: Lunaville: I'm sure the increased supply of heroin has little to nothing to do with our liberating Afghanistan. That said some people seem to have an internal need to destroy themselves.It's more of a need to self-medicate. Opiate addicts can be perfectly functional in society. It's the lack of a clean, cheap, and and reliable opium source that does all the damage.
simon_bar_sinister: Just stop with War On American Citizens already. Just unlock the pharmacy. Period. Want to get high on medical heroin (yes, it's evderywhere else just not here)? Get hot. Like some vicodin for big cleaning days? Head on over to Walgreens. Want some adderal to help with that lard ass? Motor on over to CVS. Have a legit medical need for the pain pills, antibiotics, blood pressure pills etc? Get a chit (prescription) from your doctor and get the drugs for 1/2 price and even covered under insurance. No chit? You pay. Had that illness, injury etc. before and know what the doc is going to give you? Save a buck on M.D. fees and just get the meds. Let the M.D. use his time to actually help someone who needs it.All that extra money from OTC drug sales? It should be split 4 ways. 25% to the retailer for his new paper work, 25% tax to support inspection etc. 25% manufacturer profit (offset real need discounts) 25% rehab superfund. Watch enough friends and family pay a real consequence for a change drug use will moderate on its own.Employers will still be free to mandate only non-recreational use of drugs. Just like some treat nicotine like drugs now. If you want a safety critical job like police, EMS, driver you may have to abstain.Doing drugs doesn't make you a criminal any more than eating carrots makes you a scientist or smoking cigars makes you a deer poacher. Engaging in criminal activity makes you a criminal.Laws of prohibition, support of laws of prohibition is anti-freedom, anti-civil rights anti-american.
Huck And Molly Ziegler: me society. Listen, Society, if you were more enriching, fulfilling and lucrative, people wouldn't need to "do drugs" to erase the pain and fill the void.
DrBreRuthlessVillain: ThrobblefootSpectre: I do however disagree with the "legalize everything" crowd. I think that's naive and would be socially disastrous. Unfortunately, many people who repeat the "drug war is a failure" rhetoric fall into the latter category.Minimal snark intended here, but if you're able to say that legalizing everything would be "socially disastrous," then you must have a special ability to see the future that the rest of us--even on the "legalize everything" side of the argument--lack. If I had that ability I'd be busy picking lottery numbers and enjoying the winnings instead of wasting the workday on Fark, but I digress.The point of legalizing everything, at least for me, is a matter of principle. Would legalization be a "disaster" for society? I don't pretend to know that with any real certainty, but what I do know is that a society that tolerates laws that make contraband out of certain substances is, in effect, an open air prison colony. I support legalization because it's the right thing to do and a good starting point considering what an authoritarian shiatshow prohibition has been. I don't doubt that some people's lives will be disasters post-legalization, but I can only really say that with any certainty because the existing laws haven't done a thing to prevent it in the here and now. One thing is certain: it will still be an imperfect world post-legalization; it's just that do-gooders might be able to channel their efforts a little more productively once the artificial (legal) problems are eliminated.Start by doing the right thing, then address the problems that remain.
megarian: But that wouldn't even kind of work. At all.
ThrobblefootSpectre: Um, Portugal didn't "legalize everything". Drug possession and use is still against the law, just not a major crime including a prison sentence in some cases. You do realize you need a prescription to get pain pills there right, just like in the US.? You can't just go to the pharmacist and order up a pound of Oxy's for the weekend - just like in the U.S.? Okay, maybe you didn't. Go ahead and read a little about it, instead of repeating what you heard about it on fark, and then get back to us. It's hard to know how to respond to the rest of your post when nothing you just said is true.
Tenatra: Jon iz teh kewl:an alcoholic isn't an addict to alcohol. he's a violent man that beats his family. someone else who treats their family nicely and drinks the same amount is considered normalSpend some time around heavy alcoholics and watch their withdrawals, they can't function without it.
Jon iz teh kewl: Tenatra: Jon iz teh kewl:an alcoholic isn't an addict to alcohol. he's a violent man that beats his family. someone else who treats their family nicely and drinks the same amount is considered normalSpend some time around heavy alcoholics and watch their withdrawals, they can't function without it.i used to drink about 3-6 beers every night to fall asleep. i quit like 11 months later and had no withdrawal symptoms
Fentanyl Bomb: A fentanyl bomb has hit Appalachia. Not surprised that Heroin is close behind.In my day it was something you used to dislodge Chechnyan separtists from theatres./adjusts opioid onion
Dirtybird971: is imported into the United States from Mexico and Central America. It's first going to Illinois, Michigan and Ohio, then migrating across the Ohio River into Kentucky.
Tenatra: Tenatra:I felt like I needed it at night but I was able to quit.I should add that even though I've been away from alcohol for close to 2 1/2 years (aside from having 1 beer with dinner every 3 months). I want to drink really bad if it comes up in conversation. Oh damn you are all drinkin at the house tonight? I know not to do hard liquor because I'll have 1 drink, then it leads to another. BAM! Crazy drunk me makes enters the room and I won't be back until the next day after I pass the fark out.
The One True TheDavid: Jon iz teh kewl:an alcoholic isn't an addict to alcohol. he's a violent man that beats his family. someone else who treats their family nicely and drinks the same amount is considered normalUntil he passes out in an important meeting with a big customer and gets fired. Or until his wife finds somebody handsomer, younger, stupider and richer, then it becomes an excuse for divorce.
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