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2012-11-30 10:23:31 AM
Fisker Halts Karma Production

They come and go. They come and gooooo.
 
2012-11-30 11:37:05 AM
good. zink mining is evil
 
2012-11-30 02:24:43 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: good. zink mining is evil


It's nothing compared to tiberium harvesting.
 
2012-11-30 02:36:09 PM
www.guapo.net

Aye, Captain, I'll have your Karma up and running in no time
 
2012-11-30 02:38:39 PM
Or,

www.kerrydean.com

"Marty, where we're going we won't need batteries."
 
2012-11-30 03:19:42 PM
Anybody ever think about using god given gas in them the automobiles like it was intended?
 
2012-11-30 03:40:04 PM

Nothing To See Here: Anybody ever think about using god given gas in them the automobiles like it was intended?


Don't worry about running out or pollution because god will just fix those problems like he has all the other problems we've had.
 
2012-11-30 04:07:11 PM

Incog_Neeto: Nothing To See Here: Anybody ever think about using god given gas in them the automobiles like it was intended?

Don't worry about running out or pollution because god will just fix those problems like he has all the other problems we've had.


what part of god given gas do you not understand, you filthy liberal hippy?
 
2012-11-30 04:15:18 PM
They just need to charge more, obviously


The problem is they have nothing to charge now.
 
2012-11-30 04:26:15 PM
Aren't these the ones that burst into flames?

Perhaps this isn't such a bad thing...
 
2012-11-30 04:37:12 PM

Incog_Neeto: Nothing To See Here: Anybody ever think about using god given gas in them the automobiles like it was intended?

Don't worry about running out or pollution because god will just fix those problems like he has all the other problems we've had.


Really? Because it looks like they ran out of batteries before I ran out of gas. Seems like gas won.
 
2012-11-30 04:45:56 PM
Should have just put a wind turbine on top
 
2012-11-30 05:16:59 PM
Glasses off, pause for effect and . . .

" Looks like business is starting to D Cell . . . "
 
2012-11-30 05:22:44 PM
I'd like to think that smart people can see that electric cars with batteries are a bad investment because when the battery pack goes bad, and all battery packs go bad, you're left with NOTHING. Their resale value will be bad for the same reason. The battery packs are so expensive to replace that you might as well throw the car away and buy a new one.

Let's use the example of drills. You can buy a cheap corded drill that could last you the rest of your life under average use. You can't do that with a cordless even though they cost way more because the batteries will eventually fail or become so powerless as to be effectively failed.

When it comes to the many thousands of dollars that cars cost, throwing money down a hole on a battery-powered car isn't smart. I'm very eagerly awaiting something better than batteries.
 
2012-11-30 05:32:40 PM

Korzine: Incog_Neeto: Nothing To See Here: Anybody ever think about using god given gas in them the automobiles like it was intended?

Don't worry about running out or pollution because god will just fix those problems like he has all the other problems we've had.

Really? Because it looks like they ran out of batteries before I ran out of gas. Seems like gas won.


around these parts the wife and I call that 'tuesday'.
 
2012-11-30 05:50:00 PM
Four teenaged girls in Africa built a hydrogen powered generator that runs for 6 hours on one liter of urine.

You can't tell me that there is any excuse for gasoline powered engines anymore. Because there isn't. They claim hydrogen power won't work because you need a whole new infrastructure for distribution. Not anymore. Personal piss manufacturing plants are already pretty well distributed where they would need to be. The rest of the stuff is hardware and can be distributed through current trucking/shipping infrastructure and sold through Napa, Home Depot, etc.

The technology is here. Third-world teenagers can build it! If it does not get developed and put into production it is because the Government and Big Oil actively prevent it from happening. I'd call that treason, myself. It is undeniably in the best interest not just of the US, but of the entire world for reliance on oil to be ended. This is a huge step in that direction, it is achievable within our lifetime, and it isn't even expensive. To prevent it from happening is to knowingly violate the oath of office and deliberately act against American interests in favor of personal financial gain.
 
2012-11-30 06:02:31 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: good. zink mining is evil


I believe Al Gore himself had a zinc mine, with significant unaddressed pollution, on his Tennessee properties.

While George W.'s Texas ranch uses solar and (I think) wind power.
 
2012-11-30 06:04:18 PM

meat0918: Aren't these the ones that burst into flames?

Perhaps this isn't such a bad thing...


Was it Fisker or Tesla cars that, if you let them run down too far, "brick" and basically are permanently useless?
 
2012-11-30 06:18:33 PM

Balchinian: Four teenaged girls in Africa built a hydrogen powered generator that runs for 6 hours on one liter of urine.


"urine is put into an electrolytic cell, which cracks the urea into nitrogen, water, and hydrogen. "

And what is powering the electrolytic cell? Magic?
 
2012-11-30 06:29:01 PM

natazha: Balchinian: Four teenaged girls in Africa built a hydrogen powered generator that runs for 6 hours on one liter of urine.


"urine is put into an electrolytic cell, which cracks the urea into nitrogen, water, and hydrogen. "

And what is powering the electrolytic cell? Magic?


Don't bring up pesky questions of practicality and engineering. Balchinian is on a rant; mere facts should not be allowed to compete with "big oil" conspiracy theories.
 
2012-11-30 06:53:42 PM

not5am: Incog_Neeto: Nothing To See Here: Anybody ever think about using god given gas in them the automobiles like it was intended?

Don't worry about running out or pollution because god will just fix those problems like he has all the other problems we've had.

what part of god given gas do you not understand, you filthy liberal hippy?


The part where the gas is from God but the fossils are from Satan
 
2012-11-30 07:02:26 PM
But the halt in production means Fisker had to delay the Karma's debut in China, a market packed with new millionaires eager to make a statement in a $100,000 car
Why not have a Chinese company make the batteries?
 
2012-11-30 07:02:32 PM

natazha: Balchinian: Four teenaged girls in Africa built a hydrogen powered generator that runs for 6 hours on one liter of urine.


"urine is put into an electrolytic cell, which cracks the urea into nitrogen, water, and hydrogen. "

And what is powering the electrolytic cell? Magic?


Brawndo! It's got electrolytes.
 
2012-11-30 07:43:41 PM

JohnAnnArbor: meat0918: Aren't these the ones that burst into flames?

Perhaps this isn't such a bad thing...

Was it Fisker or Tesla cars that, if you let them run down too far, "brick" and basically are permanently useless?


Tesla. but that was only an issue with the roadster, not its new car.
 
2012-11-30 07:44:05 PM

JohnAnnArbor: natazha: Balchinian: Four teenaged girls in Africa built a hydrogen powered generator that runs for 6 hours on one liter of urine.


"urine is put into an electrolytic cell, which cracks the urea into nitrogen, water, and hydrogen. "

And what is powering the electrolytic cell? Magic?

Don't bring up pesky questions of practicality and engineering. Balchinian is on a rant; mere facts should not be allowed to compete with "big oil" conspiracy theories.


Both of your snark aside, it's solar.
 
2012-11-30 07:58:36 PM

JohnAnnArbor: meat0918: Aren't these the ones that burst into flames?

Perhaps this isn't such a bad thing...

Was it Fisker or Tesla cars that, if you let them run down too far, "brick" and basically are permanently useless?


Those were Teslas, but they have newer software that won't allow that to happen anymore.
 
2012-11-30 08:31:04 PM

natazha: "urine is put into an electrolytic cell, which cracks the urea into nitrogen, water, and hydrogen. "

And what is powering the electrolytic cell? Magic?


Electricity + chemical energy from the urea. The voltage for this cell is significantly less than for one that's just splitting plain water, meaning you get more hydrogen out for a given amount of electrical input. As long as you're dealing with pure solutions under laboratory conditions it does work, but I don't know how well it will transfer to the real world (where you have to deal with e.g. bacterial fouling of the electrodes, or competing reactions from chloride ions).
 
2012-11-30 08:31:37 PM

Explodo: I'd like to think that smart people can see that electric cars with batteries are a bad investment because when the battery pack goes bad, and all battery packs go bad, you're left with NOTHING. Their resale value will be bad for the same reason. The battery packs are so expensive to replace that you might as well throw the car away and buy a new one.

Let's use the example of drills. You can buy a cheap corded drill that could last you the rest of your life under average use. You can't do that with a cordless even though they cost way more because the batteries will eventually fail or become so powerless as to be effectively failed.

When it comes to the many thousands of dollars that cars cost, throwing money down a hole on a battery-powered car isn't smart. I'm very eagerly awaiting something better than batteries.


Somehow I don't think a corded electric car would be all that useful.
 
2012-11-30 10:04:48 PM

natazha: Balchinian: Four teenaged girls in Africa built a hydrogen powered generator that runs for 6 hours on one liter of urine.


"urine is put into an electrolytic cell, which cracks the urea into nitrogen, water, and hydrogen. "

And what is powering the electrolytic cell? Magic?


The power of Christ
 
2012-11-30 10:17:59 PM

Hagbardr: Explodo: I'd like to think that smart people can see that electric cars with batteries are a bad investment because when the battery pack goes bad, and all battery packs go bad, you're left with NOTHING. Their resale value will be bad for the same reason. The battery packs are so expensive to replace that you might as well throw the car away and buy a new one.

Let's use the example of drills. You can buy a cheap corded drill that could last you the rest of your life under average use. You can't do that with a cordless even though they cost way more because the batteries will eventually fail or become so powerless as to be effectively failed.

When it comes to the many thousands of dollars that cars cost, throwing money down a hole on a battery-powered car isn't smart. I'm very eagerly awaiting something better than batteries.

Somehow I don't think a corded electric car would be all that useful.


I'm still a fan of diesel/electric hybrids. The diesel engine is efficient and easy/quick to refuel and the powertrain is simplified by being electric. Trains have been doing it for decades because it works so good so why not cars?
 
2012-11-30 10:19:03 PM

dryknife: They just need to charge more, obviously


The problem is they have nothing to charge now.


I guess the manufacturer didn't have the right capacity.
 
2012-11-30 10:26:22 PM
Invest in extension cords, you'll go far . . .

/well not real far
 
2012-11-30 10:28:23 PM

Tobin_Lam: Hagbardr: Explodo: I'd like to think that smart people can see that electric cars with batteries are a bad investment because when the battery pack goes bad, and all battery packs go bad, you're left with NOTHING. Their resale value will be bad for the same reason. The battery packs are so expensive to replace that you might as well throw the car away and buy a new one.

Let's use the example of drills. You can buy a cheap corded drill that could last you the rest of your life under average use. You can't do that with a cordless even though they cost way more because the batteries will eventually fail or become so powerless as to be effectively failed.

When it comes to the many thousands of dollars that cars cost, throwing money down a hole on a battery-powered car isn't smart. I'm very eagerly awaiting something better than batteries.

Somehow I don't think a corded electric car would be all that useful.

I'm still a fan of diesel/electric hybrids. The diesel engine is efficient and easy/quick to refuel and the powertrain is simplified by being electric. Trains have been doing it for decades because it works so good so why not cars?


I would like to know that too...
 
2012-11-30 10:33:23 PM
Or you can use wood.
/it is carbon NEGATIVE
 
2012-11-30 10:33:59 PM
 
2012-11-30 11:46:03 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: But the halt in production means Fisker had to delay the Karma's debut in China, a market packed with new millionaires eager to make a statement in a $100,000 car
Why not have a Chinese company make the batteries?


'Cuz AMERIKA!!!

/You make a valid point
//Hi-cap lithium batteries are surprisingly high labor
 
2012-11-30 11:52:08 PM
I have a lightning rod on my car. So I'm a tornado chaser. The rest of the time I have to stay home.
 
2012-12-01 01:13:21 AM

Explodo: I'd like to think that smart people can see that electric cars with batteries are a bad investment because when the battery pack goes bad, and all battery packs go bad, you're left with NOTHING. Their resale value will be bad for the same reason. The battery packs are so expensive to replace that you might as well throw the car away and buy a new one.


IDK what a replacement battery for a Fisker Karma costs. Maybe people who spend $119K on a car don't care.

No car is an investment. Cars are consumer goods.
 
2012-12-01 01:13:22 AM
Ah the righties get so uppity when anything threatens their precious fossil fuels.
 
2012-12-01 03:11:03 AM

Allen262: Tobin_Lam: Hagbardr: Explodo: I'd like to think that smart people can see that electric cars with batteries are a bad investment because when the battery pack goes bad, and all battery packs go bad, you're left with NOTHING. Their resale value will be bad for the same reason. The battery packs are so expensive to replace that you might as well throw the car away and buy a new one.

Let's use the example of drills. You can buy a cheap corded drill that could last you the rest of your life under average use. You can't do that with a cordless even though they cost way more because the batteries will eventually fail or become so powerless as to be effectively failed.

When it comes to the many thousands of dollars that cars cost, throwing money down a hole on a battery-powered car isn't smart. I'm very eagerly awaiting something better than batteries.

Somehow I don't think a corded electric car would be all that useful.

I'm still a fan of diesel/electric hybrids. The diesel engine is efficient and easy/quick to refuel and the powertrain is simplified by being electric. Trains have been doing it for decades because it works so good so why not cars?

I would like to know that too...


It's still more efficient to use just gas or diesel for smaller cars. Diesel electric hybrids are best used in giant vehicles like trains and armored soccer mom SUVs.
 
2012-12-01 06:15:06 AM

BarkingUnicorn:

No car is an investment. Cars are consumer goods.


www.blogcdn.com

Some cars qualify as an investment. I wouldn't put the Karma in that category though.
 
2012-12-02 03:48:20 PM

thecolourdead: BarkingUnicorn:

No car is an investment. Cars are consumer goods.

[www.blogcdn.com image 450x299]

Some cars qualify as an investment. I wouldn't put the Karma in that category though.



Just don't park it in a garage with glass walls. Or leave the keys where you son Cameron or his smartass friend can find them.
 
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