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(New Jersey 101.5)   Railroad company ignores complaints of bridge instability, continues sending trains laden with highly toxic chemicals over it, then this happens   (nj1015.com) divider line 132
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2012-11-30 10:38:08 AM
Conrail, that explains a lot. Think Amtrak, but for freight. Same deal. Not much left of Conrail these days anyway. Around here, NS and CSX bought up a lot of former Conrail trackage.
 
2012-11-30 10:46:58 AM
Jesus christ...
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2012-11-30 11:09:30 AM
Isn't the local State Dept of Transportation responsible for bridge inspections and wouldn't they have the power to order the bridge close to traffic????
 
2012-11-30 11:16:50 AM

DAR: Isn't the local State Dept of Transportation responsible for bridge inspections and wouldn't they have the power to order the bridge close to traffic????


And put union members out of work? WTF are you thinking? It's Jersey!
 
2012-11-30 11:19:45 AM
Vinyl chloride. Nice. That should poison things for a nice long time.
 
2012-11-30 11:34:11 AM
Isn't this the plot to Resident Evil Zero?
 
2012-11-30 11:59:39 AM
It's like the plot of Atlas Shrugged. Only reality-based.
 
2012-11-30 12:50:43 PM
Since it was in new jersey.. "And nothing of value was lost.."
 
2012-11-30 12:50:49 PM

Lsherm: DAR: Isn't the local State Dept of Transportation responsible for bridge inspections and wouldn't they have the power to order the bridge close to traffic????

And put union members out of work? WTF are you thinking? It's Jersey!


I'm sure you thought that was cute, but who do you think would be rebuilding the bridge?
 
2012-11-30 12:51:12 PM
A foul-smelling trainwreck in Jersey? What tipped them off?
 
2012-11-30 12:53:14 PM

cgraves67: A foul-smelling trainwreck in Jersey? What tipped them off?


The Grunting


mtv.mtvnimages.com

 
2012-11-30 12:54:04 PM
One of those moments fark needs multi tags

/I say dump the idiot(s) who greenlit the trains to be thrown of the same bridge
//gonna send link to cousin who was train conductor, he might get a laugh/facepalm moment out of this
 
2012-11-30 12:54:59 PM
Railroads don't fix bridges and crossing until they absolutely have to. There's a bridge in my hometown that NS didn't fix up until concrete chunks started hitting cars.

Railroads are notoriously cheap. They spend less on the occasional settlement than they'd have to spend on proper maintenance.
 
2012-11-30 12:55:06 PM

Somaticasual: Since it was in new jersey.. "And nothing of value was lost.."


balls of bronze coming from Austin TX

cgraves67: A foul-smelling trainwreck in Jersey? What tipped them off?


your material always kills, Mr.Youngman
 
2012-11-30 12:55:23 PM

LasersHurt: Lsherm: DAR: Isn't the local State Dept of Transportation responsible for bridge inspections and wouldn't they have the power to order the bridge close to traffic????

And put union members out of work? WTF are you thinking? It's Jersey!

I'm sure you thought that was cute, but who do you think would be rebuilding the bridge?


Who said anything about rebuilding?
 
2012-11-30 12:56:28 PM

Lsherm: DAR: Isn't the local State Dept of Transportation responsible for bridge inspections and wouldn't they have the power to order the bridge close to traffic????

And put union members out of work? WTF are you thinking? It's Jersey!


It's a Conrail bridge. State of NJ has little to do with their private infrastructure.

Have done a lot of bridge and tunnel work for the railroads; they don't want to shut down at all. You pretty much HAVE to have something like this to happen (or close to it) to get them to agree to take a track out of service.
 
2012-11-30 12:57:11 PM
Don't worry, the free market will clean this up.
 
2012-11-30 12:57:49 PM
www.theblaze.com
"We've got to stop spending money!!!"
 
2012-11-30 12:58:26 PM

nekom: Conrail, that explains a lot. Think Amtrak, but for freight. Same deal. Not much left of Conrail these days anyway. Around here, NS and CSX bought up a lot of former Conrail trackage.


In what sense, "same deal"? Conrail was a federal railroad, yes, but privatized in 1987, and a solely owned joint-operating-agreement of NS and CSX since 1998.
 
2012-11-30 12:58:34 PM
New Jersey. Check. Toxic Chemical Spill. Check. Bunch of Eye-Ties yapping it up in the media. Check.
Business as usual. Just another Friday.
 
2012-11-30 12:59:59 PM
www.proudproducers.com

Jim Taggart declined to comment on the incident.
 
2012-11-30 01:02:33 PM
Hasn't the Garden State suffered enough already this year?!
 
2012-11-30 01:03:30 PM

taurusowner: [www.proudproducers.com image 190x190]

Jim Taggart declined to comment on the incident.


EUREKA!
 
2012-11-30 01:04:05 PM

Apos: Hasn't the Garden State suffered enough already this year?!


No
 
2012-11-30 01:05:19 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-30 01:08:16 PM
To be fair, pretty much every freight train is laden with toxic chemicals.

My mom spent some time as a real engineer (as opposed to me, a software engineer). Probably 1/3 of her schooling was on HazMat.
 
2012-11-30 01:08:34 PM
FTA: He says the rail bridge apparently buckled, just as it did during a derailment in 2009 folliwing an accident that derailed 16 cars carrying coal. The bridge was rebuilt in 2010.


It lasted two whole years?

Damn, Americans are gettin real good at infrastructure!
 
2012-11-30 01:09:17 PM
www.androidrundown.com
 
2012-11-30 01:09:37 PM

Whole Wheat: Don't worry, the free market will clean this up.


Exactly, or they will go out of business and if land and water is poisoned for decades and a bunch of people die, well that's just the cost of doing business.
 
2012-11-30 01:09:40 PM

Amos Quito: FTA: He says the rail bridge apparently buckled, just as it did during a derailment in 2009 folliwing an accident that derailed 16 cars carrying coal. The bridge was rebuilt in 2010.


It lasted two whole years?

Damn, Americans are gettin real good at infrastructure!


Chinese Steel. Almost as good as the real thing
 
2012-11-30 01:13:18 PM
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Unavailable for comment
 
2012-11-30 01:14:25 PM
vinyl chloride


From Wiki: "At ambient pressure and temperature, vinyl chloride is a gas with a sickly sweet odor. It is highly toxic, flammable and carcinogenic."

Well, isn't that just lovely?
 
2012-11-30 01:14:44 PM
Nothing like an airborne toxic event to liven up the weekend.
 
2012-11-30 01:17:30 PM
So Lindsay Lohan is visiting New Jersey today? Okay. Got it.
 
2012-11-30 01:18:57 PM

new_york_monty: Nothing like an airborne toxic event to liven up the weekend.


Are they in town? Can I find seats on StubHub?
 
2012-11-30 01:19:04 PM
Do train cars disengage from other cars when they're twisting (i.e. toppling over from derailment, etc)?

I know its way (read: a shiatload) off topic but I wanna know and google isn't helping.
 
2012-11-30 01:19:24 PM
Should have used Rearden metal.

God that was a terrible book.
 
2012-11-30 01:21:04 PM
Ohhhh, the soft warm sound of vinyl, I'm really not seeing the problem here.
 
2012-11-30 01:23:01 PM
I'm worried something like this will happen where I live. Luckily, very few (if any) railroad cars carrying toxic chemicals travel over the rail lines near or upstream of where the city gets its water.

Now the natural mercury deposits in the hills surrounding some of the major feeder streams for the river (as well as the around the river itself) being disturbed as gold prospecting increases again....
 
2012-11-30 01:26:18 PM

SocraticIrony: Do train cars disengage from other cars when they're twisting (i.e. toppling over from derailment, etc)?

I know its way (read: a shiatload) off topic but I wanna know and google isn't helping.


Sometimes,but that can make a huge problem too. The the rear car can crash into the knuckle and you get what's called a head punch. Most modern pressure cars have a head shield to try to prevent that.
 
2012-11-30 01:27:45 PM
Thank goodness we don't waste money on maintaining important public infrastructure like bridges.

The free market knows best.
 
2012-11-30 01:30:05 PM

occamswrist: Should have used Rearden metal.

God that was a terrible book.


Seriously. I mean political message aside the characters had all the signs of being psychopaths. The narrative was a rambling mess. I actually made it 400 pages in before I was like "Reading this is like grinding work. Why am doing this to myself?" and stopped.

It's an awful story with awful characters that goes on FAR too long. It's just a terrible book.
 
2012-11-30 01:30:27 PM
Those of you who didn't read TFA in it's entirety missed this gem in the comments:

Paul Zuzzio · Top Commenter
I notice that no one has yet mentioned the obvious........deliberate sabotage by any number of groups. It has already been revealed that Al Qaeda and other terrorst organizations have been planning "small" subtle attacks aimed at creating huge hazards and clean up costs instead of BIG ones like 9/11. One of the most talked about was the wild fires out West. THIS is a perfect example of that type of event. Also, any number of enviromental groups that want to try to shut down or bankrupt industries they don't like...................

I'm sure the Feds will be looking into this event to see if there is any evidence of that type of involvement. In the meantime, I predict that the Left and their enviro-fascist allies, never wanting to let a "crisis" go to waste, will VERY SOON begin lobbying for new additional laws that will drive more business's and jobs out of our state. Of course they will "claim" that it is in the name of "protecting the public".........all the while they are banking more bribe money as campaign cash from the corrupt special interests. I also see this as a a chance for exploitation to funnel more tax money to unions in the name of "infrastructure repair".


The sheer quantity of weapons-grade derp packed into one little comment makes me thank Jebus that a black hole didn't form. Fark Politics tab posters could take lessons from this dipshiat.
 
2012-11-30 01:32:43 PM
In related news: Chris Christie, Governor of New Jersey was said to be despondent over the loss of 8 cars of Hostess Twinkies which was attached to this train.

Hostess and Governor unavailable for comment
 
2012-11-30 01:33:56 PM

Lost Thought 00: Amos Quito: FTA: He says the rail bridge apparently buckled, just as it did during a derailment in 2009 folliwing an accident that derailed 16 cars carrying coal. The bridge was rebuilt in 2010.


It lasted two whole years?

Damn, Americans are gettin real good at infrastructure!

Chinese Steel. Almost as good as the real thing


And union labor.
 
2012-11-30 01:35:04 PM
Since it happened near Camden there couldn't be much damage.
 
2012-11-30 01:35:39 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Thank goodness we don't waste money on maintaining important public infrastructure like bridges.

The free market knows best.


While I agree with the sentiment of your comment, in this case I believe the railroad bridge in question is not public infrastructure, but privately owned by the railroad.
 
2012-11-30 01:36:20 PM
Don't worry guys, Conrail will be hit with a fine so small it's more profitable for them to let the bridge collapse than to fix it beforehand.
 
2012-11-30 01:38:04 PM
This is why regulation is bad and free markets know best.
 
2012-11-30 01:38:12 PM
FTFA: Residents of Paulsboro, West Deptford and East Greenwich Township are still being urged to stay in their homes with the windows shut and outside ventilation blocked as a precaution.

All Paulsboro schools are on lockdown according to the school district website. "Students in the buildings will be kept safe. Students yet arriving will be turned away."


Well that's nice. Advisories are in place to stay indoors to avoid inhaling anything which might have been released into the environment, and schools are shutting kids out.
 
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