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(The Daily Beast)   Darrell Issa (R-CA) wants a two year ban on any Internet laws. Or as congressmen call putting off any work for two years, "business as usual"   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 40
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2012-11-30 08:28:15 AM  
Impressive, but I don't think the hero tag is deserved.
 
2012-11-30 08:44:28 AM  
Well given the average congressman's understanding of internet technology, giving them an extra two years to catch up probably isn't actually a terrible idea.
 
2012-11-30 09:20:32 AM  
This shall be a fun thread to watch.

From the net neutrality folk to the jail for life the pirates folk, this thread will encompass everyone
 
2012-11-30 09:34:21 AM  

incendi: Well given the average congressman's understanding of internet technology, giving them an extra two years to catch up probably isn't actually a terrible idea.


A two year moratorium on any kind of internet law is a terrible idea. This would give companies/scammers free reign to develop and plan new money-making schemes.

The moratorium put forth by Ron Wyden years ago worked because it was based around a single subject: taxation.
 
2012-11-30 09:46:51 AM  

ArkAngel: A two year moratorium on any kind of internet law is a terrible idea.


I agree, I was just poking fun at the technologically incompetent old people.
 
2012-11-30 10:40:21 AM  
www.seemslegit.com
 
2012-11-30 10:41:39 AM  
So what's the asshole planning?
 
2012-11-30 10:42:08 AM  
So, somebody who succeeded in undermining one state's democratic process and then failed in his attempt to undermine the national democratic process is a hero now?

Of course Issa doesn't want anyone to touch the Internet, specifically the web sites that say his Fast & Furious fiasco turned up nothing but wasted a lotta money.
 
2012-11-30 10:44:13 AM  

ArkAngel: incendi: Well given the average congressman's understanding of internet technology, giving them an extra two years to catch up probably isn't actually a terrible idea.

A two year moratorium on any kind of internet law is a terrible idea. This would give companies/scammers free reign to develop and plan new money-making schemes.

The moratorium put forth by Ron Wyden years ago worked because it was based around a single subject: taxation.


This. Issa doesn't want a moratorium on Regulation if the Internet, he wants a moratorium on GOVERNMENT regulation of the Internet. If Comcast wants to make it so that the only sites its customers can visit are Facebook and the double rainbow video on YouTube, Issa would be 100% okay with that.
 
2012-11-30 10:45:10 AM  

ArkAngel: incendi: Well given the average congressman's understanding of internet technology, giving them an extra two years to catch up probably isn't actually a terrible idea.

A two year moratorium on any kind of internet law is a terrible idea. This would give companies/scammers free reign to develop and plan new money-making schemes.

The moratorium put forth by Ron Wyden years ago worked because it was based around a single subject: taxation.


why does the internet need special laws for crimes committed using it? I mean, do we have different laws and penalties for robberies committed using a truck to get to the crime scene vs a car?
 
2012-11-30 10:45:45 AM  
Citizen: Oh look, ISPs want to charge me an extra $5/month if I want access to Facebook. Can't there be a law against that?
Issa: Not until 2014.
ISPs: *give money to Issa*
 
2012-11-30 10:46:08 AM  
Anybody care to explain this? Issa issa giant douche, and now he is saying something that sounds like it makes sense. What am I missing?
 
2012-11-30 10:50:25 AM  
This sounds great, until you realize it also prevents further work towards institutionalizing net neutrality.
 
2012-11-30 11:00:23 AM  

Blue_Blazer: Anybody care to explain this? Issa issa giant douche, and now he is saying something that sounds like it makes sense. What am I missing?


See above. Basically Issa is trying to make it so the government can't get in the way of ISPs gouging their customers or screwing with net neutrality.
 
2012-11-30 11:02:40 AM  

GhostFish: This sounds great, until you realize it also prevents further work towards institutionalizing net neutrality.


That's the intent.
 
2012-11-30 11:04:27 AM  

somedude210: Impressive, but I don't think the hero tag is deserved.


Why would this be impressive? He wants a two year ban on ANY internet laws. It doesn't matter what side of the debate you are on, this is bad and stupid.
 
2012-11-30 11:05:24 AM  

YakBoy42: Blue_Blazer: Anybody care to explain this? Issa issa giant douche, and now he is saying something that sounds like it makes sense. What am I missing?

See above. Basically Issa is trying to make it so the government can't get in the way of ISPs gouging their customers or screwing with net neutrality.

 
2012-11-30 11:12:05 AM  
Isn't the law usually 2 years (at least) behind technology anyway?
 
2012-11-30 11:12:45 AM  
Do not meddle in the affairs of hackers, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
 
2012-11-30 11:13:37 AM  
This is the same asshole who voted for CISPA.
 
2012-11-30 11:28:30 AM  

PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?


Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

GhostFish: This sounds great, until you realize it also prevents further work towards institutionalizing net neutrality.


Ah.
 
2012-11-30 11:32:11 AM  
Maybe Issa needs to hold another 'special hearing'.
cdnimg.visualizeus.com

ISSA TRAP!
 
2012-11-30 11:38:34 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

GhostFish: This sounds great, until you realize it also prevents further work towards institutionalizing net neutrality.

Ah.


And of course in two years we can't implement any kind of net neutrality laws because it interfers with what will by then be "common business practices"
 
2012-11-30 11:40:15 AM  
The one time I saw Issa on Real Time with Bill Maher, he was your typical talking-points-spewing Republican mouthpiece, completely devoid of any facts or evidence to back himself up, and quick to use any opportunity to make shameless and ridiculous attacks on the President. I don't trust what he says one tiny iota.

/you'll never be as good as Tiny Iota, that guy was great
 
2012-11-30 11:45:12 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Citizen: Oh look, ISPs want to charge me an extra $5/month if I want access to Facebook. Can't there be a law against that?
Issa: Not until 2014.
ISPs: *give money to Issa*


Exactly this. If anyone wants to see what a dickbag Issa is, take a look here. It is a reddit AMA( ask me anything) he did about this bill, and barely answered any questions, especially those that were rated highest by the users. You have to scroll down 95% of the page before you see a question he answers. Many people asked about his support for CISPA, which he responds to by linking to an older post he made on the topic which doesn't actually say anything of substance.
 
2012-11-30 11:51:39 AM  
 
2012-11-30 11:55:33 AM  

PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?


a 2014 campaign based on "Your porn is safe, vote for me"
 
2012-11-30 12:01:15 PM  
Yeah, I really don't trust Darrell Issa at all. He opposed SOPA, but his replacement, the OPEN Act had its own problems. Besides that, he's also voted to restrict access to public-funded research (the Research Works Act) to benefit a publisher's lobby, he opposed the steps the FCC took to guarantee Net Neutrality, and he voted for CISPA, which gives the government more cyber-spying powers.

There's plenty of other reasons to dislike the guy that aren't tech related, as well. He's the one who kept Sandra Fluke from testifying and has a history of leaking sensitive documents when trying to turn investigations like Fast & Furious and Benghazi into Democratic scandals. Of course, when the House investigated Alberto Gonzalez in 2007, it was "a political witch hunt" and the documents requested were protected by executive privilege - unlike the docs he wanted re: F&F. Oh, and he's completely owned by the military-industrial complex. SAIC, BAE, Edison, AT&T - bought and paid for.
 
2012-11-30 12:09:31 PM  

un4gvn666: The one time I saw Issa on Real Time with Bill Maher, he was your typical talking-points-spewing Republican mouthpiece,


Which timeframe was that, because I have seen him on a few times.

The one that sticks in my mind most is the 2009 appearance where, as an aside, he mentioned his own health care proposal bill.

Looked it up. Basically allowed everyone to participate in the insurance exchange that Congress, (indeed all Federal employees) used.

Gee Darryl, a federally regulated insurance exchange with no pre-exisiting conditions rejections allowed. Why did you guys let that silently die in committee?
 
2012-11-30 12:21:28 PM  
Seeing Issa get ripped apart on his Reddit AMA was hilarious. I dont know what the guy was thinking or what staffer thought it would be good to try and connect him to internet issues because he went in there and got his ass completely served back to him in no time flat. Issa had it coming to himself though the guy is a slimy used car salesman who shouldn't even be in office to begin with, he is also completely bought and paid for by special interest.
 
2012-11-30 12:51:38 PM  
If I'm as productive at work as Congress, I would've been fired years ago.
 
2012-11-30 01:54:42 PM  
Remember guys, copyright protection is a choice, not a mandate.
 
2012-11-30 02:47:28 PM  

PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?


Pretty much this. Issa is probably the scummiest person in Congress and I'd trust him about as far as i could throw him.

Issa voted for CISPA, enough said.
 
2012-11-30 04:17:11 PM  

PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?


He's trying to prevent the FCC from implementing rules the internet providers don't like. Anything related to net neutrality, for example.
 
2012-11-30 05:19:57 PM  

PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?


yeah, I thought the exact same thing when I read who suggested this. Issa is a piece of scum.
 
2012-11-30 07:17:24 PM  

exatron: PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?

He's trying to prevent the FCC from implementing rules the internet providers don't like. Anything related to net neutrality, for example.


I agree that Darryl seems the type to try something like that, wouldn't the FCC's action be a regulation and not a law?
 
2012-11-30 07:22:58 PM  
zomg, Issa is crowdsourcing the text of the bill.

http://keepthewebopen.com/iama

Paging Weedlord Bonerhitler!
 
2012-11-30 07:27:33 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: exatron: PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?

He's trying to prevent the FCC from implementing rules the internet providers don't like. Anything related to net neutrality, for example.

I agree that Darryl seems the type to try something like that, wouldn't the FCC's action be a regulation and not a law?


ah. I see he's got that base covered given his trial balloon.

pdf

so its just the Fark headline that is wrong
 
2012-11-30 08:20:54 PM  
Of course he doesn't mind a ban on Internet laws for the next couple of years, it's not like he's had any luck on passing any in the past 8 years. Not with a Democratic president in the WH. In what world does he live in that he thinks Republican led legislations has any hope of passing the Senate, let alone President Obama's desk?

So ya, he's for having a ban while there's a Democratic president and senate. He's obviously in favor of not seeing a Net Neutrality bill in these next couple of years.

And there almost very likely will be a confrontation on that issue in the next couple of years. The online video space is growing incredibly fast, and it will almost certainly cause a clash between the content providers vs bandwidth provider in the next couple of years. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, HBO, etc are all in that market now. Anybody really doubt that with all those companies competing, not one is going to agree with the cable companies to sign a deal that their service will be faster than the others?

The next 2 years we are going to see some major movements in online video, and Net Neutrality will probably decide who will win and who will lose. And not just for the companies, but for us as well. Online video will set the precedent, and how free the internet really is will be decided.

This is why Google has their Kansas 1Gbps experiment. It's to scare the cable and telecom companies, to have them think that Google or any other company can provide service to the people (and of course for us to see what the possibilities really are... and how constricting the telecom companies have been).

So Issa isn't a hero. He knows exactly what he's doing, and it's not for our benefit.
 
2012-12-01 09:50:50 AM  

PonceAlyosha: So what's the asshole planning?


This. No Republican, and ESPECIALLY not Issa, does anything without intending to screw people over.
 
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