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(ESPN)   Alex Smith, former starting QB for San Francisco 49ers: "I feel like the only thing I did to lose my job was get a concussion"   (espn.go.com) divider line 289
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2012-11-30 03:21:45 AM  
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2012-11-30 03:29:27 AM  
"I feel like the only thing I did to lose my job was get a concussion" -well, theres your problem; you shouldnt have done that.
 
2012-11-30 04:37:46 AM  
There's also all that sucking as a QB he did prior to Harbaugh's arrival as coach. I'm sure the team has no real respect for Smith as a QB, as he has proven nothing on his own, and let's face it: The other guy is pretty damn good. Plus he has more mobility and the offense is more dynamic when Smith is on the bench.

So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.
 
2012-11-30 04:54:11 AM  
I feel so sorry for him. He'll have to sit out and collect his $9 million this season.
 
2012-11-30 05:19:56 AM  

MmmmBacon: So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.


Yes, but wait until he's playing against someone besides the Saints' secondary (we suck hard in that regard this year). He's a good kid, but there's still some things left to be proven.

/yes I know he won in Chicago, but still
 
2012-11-30 05:25:36 AM  

dickfreckle: MmmmBacon: So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.

Yes, but wait until he's playing against someone besides the Saints' secondary (we suck hard in that regard this year). He's a good kid, but there's still some things left to be proven.

/yes I know he won in Chicago, but still


I hope he gets a starting job somewhere else next year, maybe with the Jets? They certainly could use a player that actually has some sort of upside in that position.
 
2012-11-30 05:57:34 AM  
Actually, him sitting out is probably the best thing for a concussion...irrespective if he's cleared or not. If he suffered another concussion he wouldn't be back this season.
 
2012-11-30 06:18:29 AM  

slayer199: Actually, him sitting out is probably the best thing for a concussion...irrespective if he's cleared or not. If he suffered another concussion he wouldn't be back this season.


True, but being competitive by nature, I'm sure he's dying to play again. I just don't see him playing as a 49er again, unless Colin Kaepernick gets injured at some point. I'll be surprised if Alex Smith is on the team next year.
 
2012-11-30 08:26:58 AM  

MmmmBacon: So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.


That's the kind of change you make between seasons, or if he was truly shiatting the bed when he was given the hook. But he wasn't shiatting the bed at all, and he appears to have improved from last year to this year. Kaepernick has more upside, without question, and could very well prove to be their QB of the future. However, messing around with QB in an offense that is competent, consistent and predictable enough to complement the defense and get you to a Super Bowl is a very dangerous thing.
 
2012-11-30 08:35:44 AM  

kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.

That's the kind of change you make between seasons, or if he was truly shiatting the bed when he was given the hook. But he wasn't shiatting the bed at all, and he appears to have improved from last year to this year. Kaepernick has more upside, without question, and could very well prove to be their QB of the future. However, messing around with QB in an offense that is competent, consistent and predictable enough to complement the defense and get you to a Super Bowl is a very dangerous thing.


I agree, and I think it is sad for him. Thus why I said I hope he lands a starting job somewhere else next year. I think it is pretty clear the 49ers have found their QB of the future, and Smith is getting hung out to dry.

It was handled badly, that is absolutely clear, but it's done now. Harbaugh can't go back to Smith now unless Kaepernick gets hurt, and they will clearly be shopping Smith the moment the opportunity arises after the season ends.
 
2012-11-30 08:38:28 AM  

kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.

That's the kind of change you make between seasons, or if he was truly shiatting the bed when he was given the hook. But he wasn't shiatting the bed at all, and he appears to have improved from last year to this year. Kaepernick has more upside, without question, and could very well prove to be their QB of the future. However, messing around with QB in an offense that is competent, consistent and predictable enough to complement the defense and get you to a Super Bowl is a very dangerous thing.


And it doesn't help the NFL with their efforts to deal properly with concussions. If Smith has been cleared by neurologists to play, and he gets benched anyway despite having a pretty good year. The message is being sent that if you have a concussion you'll lose your job. How many guys, seeing what happened, are going to want to admit to a concussion now?
 
2012-11-30 09:03:46 AM  
It's like football is some kind of competition or something...
 
2012-11-30 09:18:42 AM  
They were looking for an excuse to not trust him, and they found it. True, it's still far too early to say that Kaep is the QB of the future, but he is what the front office wanted: A way to get out of trusting a guy who nearly took forever to develop into a decent QB. And while I don't think I watched the entire play develop that led to the concussion, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me Smith could've made a play long before it, or that the opponents played to his tendencies to make sure he was still involved at the time.
 
2012-11-30 09:21:05 AM  
Yes, all you did was get a concussion. But Kaepernick is playing better than you. It's shiatty luck, but it's really just luck. Look at Roethlisberget to Leftwich, or Cutler to Campbell. This is the way the game should work. You suck or get knocked out, it's another person's chance to shine. And if that person happens to shine a hell of a lot brighter than you, then so be it.

SilentStrider: How many guys, seeing what happened, are going to want to admit to a concussion now?


If they're too stupid to admit to a concussion (or concussion-like symptons), then their team will suffer and it will be their fault. I won't have any sympathy for the morons that think their position is worth more than their brain and/or body.
 
2012-11-30 09:51:41 AM  

scottydoesntknow: SilentStrider: How many guys, seeing what happened, are going to want to admit to a concussion now?

If they're too stupid to admit to a concussion (or concussion-like symptons), then their team will suffer and it will be their fault. I won't have any sympathy for the morons that think their position is worth more than their brain and/or body.


Personally, knowing people who have had concussions, myself included, I'm not sure how a professional athlete can hide the symptoms for long and still keep their position anyway.
 
2012-11-30 10:29:07 AM  
Gets drafted #1, doesn't play well the first few years, though some amount of that had to do with his team's instability and running a new offense every year, finally gets a real coach and plays reasonably well, goes on a playoff run, is playing better the following year (seriously, 70% completions) but gets hurt and sees his replacement play well enough to take the job.

It's been a weird career for Alex Smith. Can't say I blame the 9ers for going with Kaepernick after the past couple of games, but I do wonder how things would have gone if Smith was in a different situation for his first few years.
 
2012-11-30 10:49:51 AM  
the game before his concussion alex smith was:

18/19 232 3 TD 0 INT

the game he suffered the concussion:

7/8 72 1 TD 0 INT

truly awful
 
2012-11-30 10:54:39 AM  
Alex Smith has games this season with a QB Rating of 156.2, 157.1, 143.8, 125.6, 107.7, season average of 104.1. He's playing QB at a very high level. He was 6-2 with a DNF that ended in a tie. In his starts the team averages 24 ppg.
 
2012-11-30 11:00:37 AM  
That's f'ed up man.
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2012-11-30 11:02:12 AM  

SlothB77: Alex Smith has games this season with a QB Rating of 156.2, 157.1, 143.8, 125.6, 107.7, season average of 104.1. He's playing QB at a very high level. He was 6-2 with a DNF that ended in a tie. In his starts the team averages 24 ppg.


Amazing what a QB can do when the rest of his team has both the 2nd ranked rushing game, and 2nd ranked defense.
 
2012-11-30 11:04:08 AM  
Someone on ESPN said it was similar to the Joe Montana/Steve Young situation and I wanted to explode the whole world.
 
2012-11-30 11:04:30 AM  

SlothB77: Alex Smith has games this season with a QB Rating of 156.2, 157.1, 143.8, 125.6, 107.7, season average of 104.1. He's playing QB at a very high level. He was 6-2 with a DNF that ended in a tie. In his starts the team averages 24 ppg.


Yes but he doesn't wave his hands all around like Peyton does so he obviously sucks.
 
2012-11-30 11:06:06 AM  

tallguywithglasseson: Someone on ESPN said it was similar to the Joe Montana/Steve Young situation and I wanted to explode the whole world.


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2012-11-30 11:06:55 AM  
I'd like to see the Chiefs get him instead of drafting Barkley.
 
2012-11-30 11:07:02 AM  

SilentStrider: kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: So, yes, the concussion got Smith replaced as QB... but it was his overall history as a 49er that ultimately cost him his job.

That's the kind of change you make between seasons, or if he was truly shiatting the bed when he was given the hook. But he wasn't shiatting the bed at all, and he appears to have improved from last year to this year. Kaepernick has more upside, without question, and could very well prove to be their QB of the future. However, messing around with QB in an offense that is competent, consistent and predictable enough to complement the defense and get you to a Super Bowl is a very dangerous thing.

And it doesn't help the NFL with their efforts to deal properly with concussions. If Smith has been cleared by neurologists to play, and he gets benched anyway despite having a pretty good year. The message is being sent that if you have a concussion you'll lose your job. How many guys, seeing what happened, are going to want to admit to a concussion now?


That's a bingo.

The AZ Cardinals are always in the market for secondhand castoff QBs to annoint as savior.
 
2012-11-30 11:07:10 AM  
OBEYMATT nailed it
 
2012-11-30 11:07:21 AM  
I didn't realize Alex Smith wrote up the 49ers' famous "have Gore run it for a loss or no gain" play.
 
2012-11-30 11:07:46 AM  
We will see how "good" Smith is after he starts for mediocre team.
 
2012-11-30 11:09:13 AM  
Also, Alex, the only thing getting a concussion did was give your backup a chance to play.

The team being better with him playing QB than they are with you at QB is what lost your your job.
 
2012-11-30 11:09:19 AM  

Devo: We will see how "good" Smith is after he starts for mediocre team.


I thought he just lost that position.
 
2012-11-30 11:10:08 AM  
You want some time off Alex?
Knock yourself out!
 
2012-11-30 11:10:26 AM  
Someone needs to give sanchez a concussion
 
2012-11-30 11:10:27 AM  
Maybe he should get a tattoo.
 
2012-11-30 11:12:00 AM  
It doesn't help that the current regime drafted your backup, but not you, Alex.
 
2012-11-30 11:14:19 AM  

tallguywithglasseson: Also, Alex, the only thing getting a concussion did was give your backup a chance to play.

The team being better with him playing QB than they are with you at QB is what lost your your job.


21-6-1 in the last two years versus 2-0 this year is not a big enough sample size to make that determination yet IMO.
 
2012-11-30 11:15:04 AM  
He'll get Matt Flynn money to play somewhere else.
 
2012-11-30 11:15:39 AM  
Learn to slide Alex; that whole play was so astoundingly dumb on your part. This was the cherry on top of reasons you need not start for the Niners. I like Alex, he's a good guy; but in terms of not doing anything to lose his job as a starter..that's rich.
 
2012-11-30 11:15:44 AM  

EyeballKid: Devo: We will see how "good" Smith is after he starts for mediocre team.

I thought he just lost that position.


Nobody who knows anything about football thinks the 49ers are mediocre.

Personally, I think Kaep's hot hand will last for another game or two and then Alex Smith will be back. Either against NE or Seattle, he's going to have a bad game.
 
2012-11-30 11:17:03 AM  

Weigard: He'll get Matt Flynn money to not play somewhere else.


FTFY
 
2012-11-30 11:17:35 AM  
Can't believe nobody mentioned Bledsoe/Brady yet.

Exact same scenario. The Pats rode the hot hand (and some videotape... and a tuck rule) to a Super Bowl
 
2012-11-30 11:17:47 AM  

Treygreen13: SlothB77: Alex Smith has games this season with a QB Rating of 156.2, 157.1, 143.8, 125.6, 107.7, season average of 104.1. He's playing QB at a very high level. He was 6-2 with a DNF that ended in a tie. In his starts the team averages 24 ppg.

Amazing what a QB can do when the rest of his team has both the 2nd ranked rushing game, and 2nd ranked defense.


So what Smith only looked good because his team is good? Pretty sure any QB who looks good has a good team around him.

And having a good team doesnt magically equal sucess for the QB. Leftwhich and Batch both had the first ranked defense (though a much worse running game) when they played and they didn't quite manage ratings close to those.

Smith is a capable game manager type QB. That is how the Niners are built and he proved last year he could make plays in a shoot out game in the playoffs against the Saints. He was also a special teams fumble away from the Super Bowl.

It's up to Harbaugh whether he is satisfied with that and obviously he isn't. Kapenik has looked good...for 2.5 games. I think it's a big bet to dump your starting veteran QB who was performing at a Pro Bowk level this year and got you a game from the Super Bowl last year for a new guy who has "upside". He's got upside, no doubt but he's also a rookie.

Does he really give you a better chance to win the Super Bowl than Smith this year? And if he has a shiatty game are you going to be able to toss Smith back in there and have him play at full potential? I say no to both of those questions, so I think it was a bad move.

Long term Kapernik is obviously the guy. But this year Smith gives them the best chance to win.
 
2012-11-30 11:17:48 AM  

MmmmBacon: slayer199: Actually, him sitting out is probably the best thing for a concussion...irrespective if he's cleared or not. If he suffered another concussion he wouldn't be back this season.

True, but being competitive by nature, I'm sure he's dying to play again. I just don't see him playing as a 49er again, unless Colin Kaepernick gets injured at some point. I'll be surprised if Alex Smith is on the team next year.


In the Sanchez Sucks thread yesterday, I said that Smith should go play for the Jets. Sanchez was successful his first 2 years, but has regressed. Smith is going the other way. He isn't going to throw for 400 yds a game, but he doesn't turn the ball over too often and can make a play when needed, which would fit well with the style the Jets were successful with previously.
 
2012-11-30 11:18:32 AM  

Shez07: Can't believe nobody mentioned Bledsoe/Brady yet.

Exact same scenario. The Pats rode the hot hand (and some videotape... and a tuck rule) to a Super Bowl


Or even Montana/Young.
 
2012-11-30 11:18:33 AM  

tallguywithglasseson: Someone on ESPN said it was similar to the Joe Montana/Steve Young situation and I wanted to explode the whole world.


More like DeBerg/Montana and yes it is because no one knew Montana would be the legend he became, but everyone knew he had the skills and thus why he became the starter. I am hoping Kaep will be just as great as Montana if not better in the end.
 
2012-11-30 11:19:55 AM  
Will never blame a coach for doing something he thinks is in the best interest of his team. But he is taking a huge risk. He's alienated Smith. Most likely Smith is gone after this season at this rate. Now Kap has been pretty solid, but its still early. If he starts to do worse, people are going to turn on Harbaugh big time. If its me, i would have stuck with Smith. The guy had been playing lights out prior to the concussion. Kap adds a new dimension to the offense sure, but its really to early to say he will be worth losing smith.
 
2012-11-30 11:20:38 AM  

Shez07: Can't believe nobody mentioned Bledsoe/Brady yet.

Exact same scenario. The Pats rode the hot hand (and some videotape... and a tuck rule) to a Super Bowl


Same for Romo/Bledsoe.
 
2012-11-30 11:21:51 AM  

Dinobot: Someone needs to give sanchez a concussion


Surprised running into his lineman's butt at full speed didn't do that.
 
2012-11-30 11:21:52 AM  
Always play the hot hand.
 
2012-11-30 11:22:13 AM  

SuperChuck: Nobody who knows anything about football thinks the 49ers are mediocre.


Some delusional fool thinks a schedule full of cupcakes will serve his team well in the postseason.
 
2012-11-30 11:23:39 AM  

Serious Black: 21-6-1 in the last two years versus 2-0 this year is not a big enough sample size to make that determination yet IMO.


It was enough for the coaches.
 
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