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(ABC 15)   Two high school snowflakes were forced to hold hands in front of their classmates as punishment for fighting and now, it's getting criticism   (abc15.com ) divider line
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2012-11-30 08:50:46 AM  
4 votes:
Coulda been worse.

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/seriously, it took this long?
2012-11-30 06:56:28 AM  
4 votes:

herrDrFarkenstein: Hand holding, meh. Back in my day if you were caught fighting you and the others had to go ass to ass in front of the whole school. Young men, women, gangs, it didn't matter. The point was you had to show a new found sense of intimacy and forgiveness, and you had better do it with a hard slapping sound and some visible froth or you'd just have to try again the next day. That's the way it was, and we liked it.

 

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2012-11-30 09:36:27 AM  
3 votes:
If you are straight and you aren't comfortable enough with your own sexuality that you can hold hands with another man, or wear pink, or tongue kiss a man, then you aren't really all that straight.
2012-11-30 04:30:40 AM  
3 votes:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I'm imagining the Fark comments section from an alternate universe where the two students are girls. It's a fun thread.


"Go ahead and hug. Now... now smell her hair..."
2012-11-30 04:19:58 AM  
3 votes:
I'm imagining the Fark comments section from an alternate universe where the two students are girls. It's a fun thread.
2012-11-30 12:10:22 AM  
3 votes:
A few others went as far as to say it sent a negative message to gay students because it portrayed hand-holding by two males to be embarrassing.

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2012-11-30 07:35:54 AM  
2 votes:

sexorcisst: John_David_Stutts: They used to take us down to the gym at lunchtime and strap the boxing gloves on us when we were caught fighting. The entire student body, faculty, and administration would come watch a couple of us try to knock each others blocks off. When it was over we'd try and lift our tired arms and shake hands and that would be the end of it. Win or lose it was kind of humiliating to be part of a public battle, but it was better than the alternate punishment of a three day suspension. Punishment is not supposed to be easy. If it were, they'd have called it something else.

/and there was no long term damage
//unless you count cranial injuries maybe

That sounds incredibly in favor of the instigator. You bully on a fellow kid, he defends himself(like he should) and you are granted the reward with beating him up, for the second time, but with an audience.


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/Two kids enter... one kid leave!
2012-11-30 06:41:15 AM  
2 votes:
Hand holding, meh. Back in my day if you were caught fighting you and the others had to go ass to ass in front of the whole school. Young men, women, gangs, it didn't matter. The point was you had to show a new found sense of intimacy and forgiveness, and you had better do it with a hard slapping sound and some visible froth or you'd just have to try again the next day. That's the way it was, and we liked it.
2012-11-30 04:34:25 AM  
2 votes:
"I've been in ROTC and it's no different than some of the stuff you have to do there. It works."


Huh?

WTF are they doing in ROTC?
2012-11-30 04:31:16 AM  
2 votes:
dl.dropbox.com
2012-11-30 04:23:13 AM  
2 votes:
High school snowflakes? Aren't high schoolers a bit old to be snowflakes? Isn't there an age limit to being referred to as a snowflake?
2012-11-30 11:20:16 AM  
1 vote:

CruiserTwelve: High school snowflakes? Aren't high schoolers a bit old to be snowflakes? Isn't there an age limit to being referred to as a snowflake?


25, then it switches to "precious plucked flower".
2012-11-30 11:15:57 AM  
1 vote:
It's wrong to make people feel shame at bad decision-making.

Besides, these boys weren't fighting each other - they were fighting their own repressed, homo-erotic fantasies and tendencies.
2012-11-30 10:46:42 AM  
1 vote:
They said if Obama got reelected they'd force everyone to be gay. Libtards swore that wasn't true, yet here we are.
2012-11-30 07:40:57 AM  
1 vote:

Rik01: Personally, I figure it's better than suspension. In my day, the principal would have paddled both with a wooden paddle or have them paddle each other and the parents would be informed.


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2012-11-30 06:45:25 AM  
1 vote:
Jeez, drill sergeants did that to us at Ft Leonard Wood. Anybody in a fist-fight had to hold hands, sometimes all day. It cut down on fights a LOT.
2012-11-30 06:36:12 AM  
1 vote:

John_David_Stutts: Yes, I see what you are saying, but it always seemed to be a couple of knuckleheads about the same age and size (turns out they were usually classmates or friends) involved as I recall. They both had to be willing to box or it was dealt with in another manor. Bullying wasn't really an issue at my school in those days either.


Another "manor"?

I got in trouble for a fight in high school - I was an unwilling participant. Some kid threw a rock at my car and I confronted him about it the next day. He attacked me. He was a lineman on the football team and weighed at least twice what I did. I never threw a punch - still got the same punishment. Funniest thing was when he told the principal "It was the camel that broke the straw's back". He wasn't too bright.

That was the 2nd to last fight I was ever in. I punched my roommate in the jaw when I was in college. He had drunk my bottle of rum. Short fight. We calmed down fairly quickly. No holding hands necessary. Still no cure for the empty bottle of rum...that bastard!
2012-11-30 06:14:31 AM  
1 vote:
Gee, if I'm gay I'd pick a guy I had a crush on and get in a fight with him. Maybe they can have them make out next.
HBK
2012-11-30 05:52:50 AM  
1 vote:

video man: Seriously? At my old high school if the two took it in good stride, and made a mockery out of it, they would've been revered by the student body.

Then again, people weren't beat-up for being gay at my school, so yeah.


/AFAIK, at least.


I was just thinking that. If I were those kids, I'd be grinning from ear to ear at how ridiculous the whole thing was, not hiding my head in shame. But I guess I went to a different kind of high school.

These two have bonded over something now and probably won't want to fight again. I think it works.

I was given an option in high school of detention or eating an entire raw habanero in front of the class with no water. I ate the pepper, no problem. The problem arose when I forgot to wash my hands, then had to take a piss.
2012-11-30 05:38:57 AM  
1 vote:
Personally, I figure it's better than suspension. In my day, the principal would have paddled both with a wooden paddle or have them paddle each other and the parents would be informed.

Today, that would get the principal tarred and feathered, ridden out of town on a rail, sued down to his underwear and loose his job as well as be damned in the national news.

The level of STUPID in the article by parents is annoying. Ridicule or direct action often is necessary to get a point through a teens thick skull.

In third or fourth grade, there was a class clown who was very disruptive and drove the teacher to distraction. Finally, having put up with it for months, she grabbed him, took some of that huge roll of drawing paper (like the left over rolls used in news papers) and snatched him up, turned the paper into a diaper, poked it on him over his cloths and made his wear it everywhere for the rest of the day.

She said if he was going to act like a baby, then he'd dress like one.

It kinda settled him down a whole lot after that.

Today, parents would demand that the teacher be taken out and shot and lawyers would be lining up at the school.

Us kids usually had other, more direct ways of dealing with harassment or disputes: a direct on punch in the mouth after school. Usually where no adults could see us. Occasionally there'd be some kid who'd start shiat, his victim would beat him to the ground and he'd pop up, too tired to fight but warn the kid it wasn't over.

Sometimes had had to get beaten down two or three times. I always suspected such kids were either more stubborn than mules or had the brains of a brick. Occasionally, one would pull a knife or use a rock and then get carted off to Reform School by the cops. We might read about them years later, after graduation, as they got arrested by the cops, or shot by someone or made jail their second home.

Intervention might have prevented that for those little psychopaths.
2012-11-30 05:32:30 AM  
1 vote:

John_David_Stutts: They used to take us down to the gym at lunchtime and strap the boxing gloves on us when we were caught fighting. The entire student body, faculty, and administration would come watch a couple of us try to knock each others blocks off. When it was over we'd try and lift our tired arms and shake hands and that would be the end of it. Win or lose it was kind of humiliating to be part of a public battle, but it was better than the alternate punishment of a three day suspension. Punishment is not supposed to be easy. If it were, they'd have called it something else.

/and there was no long term damage
//unless you count cranial injuries maybe


That sounds incredibly in favor of the instigator. You bully on a fellow kid, he defends himself(like he should) and you are granted the reward with beating him up, for the second time, but with an audience.
2012-11-30 05:22:40 AM  
1 vote:
They used to take us down to the gym at lunchtime and strap the boxing gloves on us when we were caught fighting. The entire student body, faculty, and administration would come watch a couple of us try to knock each others blocks off. When it was over we'd try and lift our tired arms and shake hands and that would be the end of it. Win or lose it was kind of humiliating to be part of a public battle, but it was better than the alternate punishment of a three day suspension. Punishment is not supposed to be easy. If it were, they'd have called it something else.

/and there was no long term damage
//unless you count cranial injuries maybe
2012-11-30 04:19:53 AM  
1 vote:

impaler: Two East Valley high school students were forced to hold hands in front of their classmates as punishment for fighting. Now that punishment is drawing criticism.

The students at Westwood High in Mesa were apparently given the option to hold hands instead of being suspended.

At first I was like: "Ok, after fighting, they were giving the option of suspension, or holding hands - an act of friendship, bonding, getting past the disagreement... what's the big deal?"

"Kids were laughing at them and calling them names asking, 'are you gay,'"

Oh yeah. Homophobia. Forgot about that.


This has potential to upset so many people; it's beautiful.
2012-11-30 03:50:49 AM  
1 vote:

styckx: A few others went as far as to say it sent a negative message to gay students because it portrayed hand-holding by two males to be embarrassing.


They were wrestling!

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Love the IAWSIP crew for getting that shot.
2012-11-30 02:12:19 AM  
1 vote:
Two East Valley high school students were forced to hold hands in front of their classmates as punishment for fighting. Now that punishment is drawing criticism.

The students at Westwood High in Mesa were apparently given the option to hold hands instead of being suspended.


At first I was like: "Ok, after fighting, they were giving the option of suspension, or holding hands - an act of friendship, bonding, getting past the disagreement... what's the big deal?"

"Kids were laughing at them and calling them names asking, 'are you gay,'"


Oh yeah. Homophobia. Forgot about that.
2012-11-30 12:18:31 AM  
1 vote:
Yeah, this was a bad idea. Making two boys hold hands is going to go over like a lead balloon in Mormon Mesa, AZ.
2012-11-29 11:55:40 PM  
1 vote:
See, here's the problem. Zero-tolerance, no-interpretation, strict-penalty rules are utterly stupid and reflect a complete idiocy within the system whenever they end up being seriously considered.

But that's the problem. When school administrators are given responsibility for "creative problem solving," they come up with shiat like this. So the system's already there.
 
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