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(CTV News) NewsFlash UN agrees to recognize Palestine as a state, will delineate borders based on where the rubble ends   (ctvnews.ca) divider line 1067
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2012-11-29 05:36:55 PM
That was my favorite Shel Silverstein book.....
 
2012-11-29 06:23:33 PM
What "rubble" might look like:

media.giantbomb.com
 
2012-11-29 08:06:23 PM
Good.
 
2012-11-29 08:06:25 PM
If Murica wants a two-state solution, why it vote no?
 
2012-11-29 08:06:57 PM
The world has tried 100 other things. Why not try this?
 
2012-11-29 08:07:13 PM
This thread needs a badge.

/i got nothin'
//peace would be nice
 
2012-11-29 08:07:38 PM

elchip: If Murica wants a two-state solution, why it vote no?


Because anti-semitism.
 
2012-11-29 08:07:39 PM
 
2012-11-29 08:07:45 PM
Interesting times...
 
2012-11-29 08:07:45 PM
Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.

Symbolic, will just divide Israel and its allies from Europe and the lesser countries any way.

Next they will be on the human rights council.

"Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"
 
2012-11-29 08:07:52 PM
So, the UN can finally stamp Resolution 1 as complete?
 
2012-11-29 08:07:56 PM
So, the US didnt block the resolution?
 
2012-11-29 08:08:08 PM
This will be an interesting thread.

Is the USA on the wrong side of history here?
 
2012-11-29 08:09:01 PM

madgonad: The world has tried 100 other things. Why not try this?


Yep.
 
2012-11-29 08:09:35 PM

Thunderpipes: Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.

Symbolic, will just divide Israel and its allies from Europe and the lesser countries any way.

Next they will be on the human rights council.

"Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"


ALL of them are terrorists. Every last one.
 
2012-11-29 08:09:50 PM

dervish16108: elchip: If Murica wants a two-state solution, why it vote no?

Because anti-semitism.


Are you a product of inbreeding, perchance?
 
2012-11-29 08:09:52 PM
I've heard that a large amount of support that Israel gets from US Christians is due to the fact that they believe that they're helping bring Jesus back. Don't they also believe that Israel has to be destroyed to bring about the second coming? Or am I mistaken?
 
2012-11-29 08:09:58 PM

elchip: If Murica wants a two-state solution, why it vote no?


ONE-HUNDRED BRAZILLION AND EIGHT PERCENT SUPPORT for Israel is required at all times. I think it's in the Constitution.

/Israel dumped my books and stole my lunch money.
 
2012-11-29 08:10:10 PM
*patiently waits for spin on why this is terrible*
 
2012-11-29 08:10:36 PM
So now Palestine had the right to exist? Fair is fair.
 
2012-11-29 08:10:48 PM

Thunderpipes: Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.

Symbolic, will just divide Israel and its allies from Europe and the lesser countries any way.

Next they will be on the human rights council.

"Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"


Fine, then give the people in the West Bank and Gaza full Israeli citizenship and political representation and compensate for lost property. Somehow, I think you'll hate that choice too.
 
2012-11-29 08:11:40 PM
I bet the Jews did this............oh, wait.
 
2012-11-29 08:11:53 PM

red230: I've heard that a large amount of support that Israel gets from US Christians is due to the fact that they believe that they're helping bring Jesus back. Don't they also believe that Israel has to be destroyed to bring about the second coming? Or am I mistaken?


^
This is what progressives actually believe
 
US1
2012-11-29 08:12:02 PM

Thunderpipes: Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.

Symbolic, will just divide Israel and its allies from Europe and the lesser countries any way.

Next they will be on the human rights council.

"Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"


israel, Occupation its what's for dinner
 
2012-11-29 08:12:27 PM
So, when does the war go nuclear?
 
2012-11-29 08:12:30 PM
The historic vote came after impassioned speeches from Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who asked the UN to "issue the birth certificate of Palestine,"

WHAR LONG FORM? WHAR???


red230: I've heard that a large amount of support that Israel gets from US Christians is due to the fact that they believe that they're helping bring Jesus back. Don't they also believe that Israel has to be destroyed to bring about the second coming? Or am I mistaken?


Not sure if they need to be destroyed, but they definitely don't get to go with the Christians to heaven.
 
2012-11-29 08:12:37 PM

bulldg4life: *patiently waits for spin on why this is terrible*


More countries to memorize
 
ecl
2012-11-29 08:12:40 PM

Thunderpipes: Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.

Symbolic, will just divide Israel and its allies from Europe and the lesser countries any way.

Next they will be on the human rights council.

"Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"


From wiki

The ongoing expansion of existing settlements by Israel and the construction of settlement outposts is frequently criticized as an obstacle to the peace process by the Palestinians[24] and third parties, including the United Nations,[25] Russia,[26] the United Kingdom,[27] the European Union,[28] and the United States.[25] In July 2012, the UN Human Rights Council decided to set up a probe into Jewish settlements. Israel responded by saying it would bar the Council's experts from access to the sites.[29]


It's hard to side with the Israelis.
 
2012-11-29 08:13:23 PM

Thunderpipes: Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.

Symbolic, will just divide Israel and its allies from Europe and the lesser countries any way.

Next they will be on the human rights council.

"Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"


As opposed to Israel, which was totes not founded by terrorists?
 
2012-11-29 08:13:24 PM
It doesn't matter if it was the right or wrong thing to do, chances are that shiat's about to go down.
 
2012-11-29 08:13:26 PM

Shadow Blasko: This will be an interesting thread.

Is the USA on the wrong side of history here?


I honestly don't know. none of this will probably stop the slaughter tho.
 
2012-11-29 08:13:31 PM

red230: I've heard that a large amount of support that Israel gets from US Christians is due to the fact that they believe that they're helping bring Jesus back. Don't they also believe that Israel has to be destroyed to bring about the second coming? Or am I mistaken?


They believe Jerusalem will be destroyed and Israel will be conquered, yes.
 
2012-11-29 08:14:07 PM
hmmm I can't wait to see how this turns out.
 
2012-11-29 08:14:08 PM

wildcardjack: So, the UN can finally stamp Resolution 1 as complete?


lolz.
 
2012-11-29 08:14:18 PM
29.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-29 08:14:28 PM
img.photobucket.com

/wait...
 
2012-11-29 08:14:37 PM
Actual headline: UN recognizes Palestine as non-member observer state

For all the symbolic significance this has, the practical significance is minimal, even by UN standards.
 
2012-11-29 08:14:49 PM

Thunderpipes: Nothing like terrorists being allowed statehood.


So since "some" in palestine are terrorists and "some" in the US are terrorists, does that make all of us terrorists?

Thunderpipes: "Palestine, only 4700 rockets launched against civilian cities this year! We know human rights!"


Meanwhile Israel only killed 35 children in the last two weeks alone.
 
2012-11-29 08:14:55 PM
So can any group of people without a country also apply? Come on tea-baggers and SEIU thugs, apply for a seat in the UN.
 
2012-11-29 08:14:56 PM

runaway06: So, the US didnt block the resolution?


Wasn't a security council vote.
 
2012-11-29 08:15:01 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is what progressives actually believe


Do you have any insights, or anything constructive to say? Or do you just threadshiat insults on people you disagree with (or people who ask questions you don't like, like this guy), and otherwise contribute nothing?
 
2012-11-29 08:15:05 PM
ERMAGERD
 
2012-11-29 08:15:26 PM
I'm sure this thread will be perfectly reasonable and we will all be able to calmly and rationally discuss the relevant stakes in the process of finding a two-state solution to the long-standing conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians.
 
2012-11-29 08:15:41 PM
I'm amazed it took this long.
 
2012-11-29 08:15:56 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: red230: I've heard that a large amount of support that Israel gets from US Christians is due to the fact that they believe that they're helping bring Jesus back. Don't they also believe that Israel has to be destroyed to bring about the second coming? Or am I mistaken?

^
This is what progressives actually believe


There's a billboard along I-75N in Atlanta stating something to the effect of "the watchers of Israel" or "what does the Bible say about Israel". I'll have to get a picture of it on my way home tonight and post it.
 
2012-11-29 08:15:57 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is what progressives actually believe have evidence of.


FTFY
 
2012-11-29 08:15:58 PM
This will cause more violence than it prevents huh?

Long road to peace.
 
2012-11-29 08:16:10 PM
I have opinions on this that I generally keep to myself.  I find it's one of those garanteed dinner party ruiners.
 
2012-11-29 08:16:15 PM
The UN didn't agree to anything. The UN is not an actor in these situations. 140 odd states that are members of the UN voted to upgrade Palestine to non-member state status. The Reuters headline says this is "implicit" recognition because a general assembly vote is usually considered recognition, but isn't quite the same explicit thing.

runaway06: So, the US didnt block the resolution?


So, being a member of the UN isn't the same as being a state.
For a state to become a full member of the UN, the security council has to approve too. The US has a veto in the security council, but not in the general assembly.
 
2012-11-29 08:16:15 PM
Either Palistine is a nation state, or Israel is guilty of running the worlds largest slave ring. It's necessarily one or the other.
 
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