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(io9)   NASA's discoveries on Mars have been downgraded from "earthshaking" to "interesting"   (io9.com) divider line 15
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2012-11-29 03:55:34 PM
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Some of the commenters in TFA had it spot on: The typical American is about as scientifically aware as an old boot. When one of the people doing science stuff says "we've found something earthshaking", people assume Martians. Then when it's a fascinating crystal structure that scientists didn't expect to see in the mineral matrix, the typical American is easier to sway that all the NASA wonks are doing is stealing yer tax money. So what needs to be done is really that the people at NASA need to shut their yaps about stuff that gets them hard, because it rarely gives the typical American the same boner. When they're positive that they've got Marvin and his Illudium q-36 explosive space modulator in the Mars rover's specimen box, then they can throw a presser and show the video.
2012-11-29 03:50:49 PM
3 votes:
People don't understand nerds. Nerds are enthusiastic about things most people don't find interesting. That's kinda the definition of "nerd", as it's commonly used these days. Like, when gamer nerds crit with a vorpal blade while fighting a tarrasque, they're going to freak the fark out, because that's pretty incredible, right there.

NASA nerds are no different. When they find a rock with a geological composition that isn't in line with what tehy thought they were going to find, they're going to go, "Holy crap! That's farking awesome!" And the rest of the world is going to go, "It's... it's just a rock."
2012-11-30 05:15:49 AM
1 votes:

rwfan: If anyone needs some eyecandy to soothe their butthurt from having their childish expectations let down check out this panoramic view of Gale Crater


Butthurt?

I'm not the one losing billions of dollars each time the budget's drawn up because I lack the skills necessary to talk to the American public and politicians about science. Going to other planets is awesome. Sending probes is less so, but still amazing the first couple times. Now I don't give two shiats about martian geology. Enough with the "billions of years ago" bullshiat and OCD mineralogy. Show me where the life is now, or send me there and I'll look for it myself. If we can't set up shop on mars yet, that should be the thrust of our endeavors. Maybe quantum entanglement could allow for ancible controlled probes so we could search the red planet in real time. That's the kind of crazy that gets willies up. And as strip clubs show, when willies go up wallets come out.
2012-11-30 02:01:38 AM
1 votes:
Very disappointed, it's sort of becoming a running joke that every time NASA has some major announcement to be not major, and could just be a basically press release with the info, and not need to hype up a press conference...

In fact, NASA, do me a favor... Don't farking give any press conferences, or announce any "major announcements" unless it's something so radically new that it really would be one of the history books!

Continue releasing news about what you discover, but short of alien life, past or present, unknown materials/elements, or evidence of manufactured items that aren't from Earth... STFU!

p.s. - Don't let that one scientist ever talk to the press again, it's bullshiat hype like that that causes people to get disillusioned with space exploration and think they'll hype shiat up and lie about things to get funding they so desperately need, but assholes that can't see the end game will use against them to reduce funding in Congress!!!
2012-11-30 12:57:07 AM
1 votes:
WHY THE GIBBERING fark IS THIS LINKED FROM IO9 and not NASA!?
2012-11-29 07:44:26 PM
1 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: LesserEvil: It seems that the Curiosity Rover has found PLASTIC on Mars.

To be fair, this might be a bit more than "interesting"

Ummm...look a little closer at the picture, and at the site URL.


Ah... looks like Slashdot got punked.
2012-11-29 07:41:51 PM
1 votes:

LesserEvil: It seems that the Curiosity Rover has found PLASTIC on Mars.

To be fair, this might be a bit more than "interesting"


Ummm...look a little closer at the picture, and at the site URL.
2012-11-29 07:39:10 PM
1 votes:
It seems that the Curiosity Rover has found PLASTIC on Mars.

To be fair, this might be a bit more than "interesting"
2012-11-29 06:55:08 PM
1 votes:
If there was oil on Mars we would be there.
2012-11-29 06:26:04 PM
1 votes:
But now, NASA is backpedaling. The nature of Curiosity's discovery has been downgraded from "earthshaking" to "interesting," and many are crying foul. They feel misled, cheated and deceived, and Grotzinger has been roundly condemned for blowing the discovery out of proportion.

The media plays telephone with a sentence or two and actively builds up as much speculation as they can, then blames NASA when the bubble they created and inflated pops? Real classy guys. Pretty sure you're the ones doing the backpedaling here.
2012-11-29 06:20:56 PM
1 votes:
gweilo8888 called it

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2012-11-29 06:02:00 PM
1 votes:
NOBODY CARES ABOUT GEOLOGY!

NASA only gets their budget cut because it's run by scientists FOR scientists, so their budget keeps getting slashed. The Pentagon dropped several Apollo Mission's worth of bombs on Iraq alone. Why? Because the boring farks don't do anything but study rocks.

ALL WE WANT IS LIFE ON ANOTHER PLANET! That's ALL anyone outside the astrophysics community (read: 6.9999 billion people) cares about.Not building blocks. Not potential for future missions. Not confirmation of findings that were boring when the Viking probes made them in the 70's: but honest to goodness critters that ain't from Earth. Failing that, send some guys up there. Or ladies. No women have been to the moon. Make that your goal and get that sweet, sweet garterbelt money.

You have to feed the public's hunger. Play it up. Make people actually excited. Focus on that kind of research publicly while keeping the REAL science on the DL. Get people excited for that, you'll get a bigger budget. Go poke some more rocks or have a ceremony for the "first quadroon transexual astronaut formermly named Steve to visit the ISS on a leap year" or some other meaningless "milestone" that isn't putting people on the moon or finding aliens and you're not winning any friends in the public sector, even if you do invent useless crap like teflon and dried ice cream from time to time.
2012-11-29 05:19:58 PM
1 votes:
Had the idiot given a more details at the time, this wouldn't have been a problem but he wanted to be sure. I'm sure he will be looking for a job as NASA budget cuts get deeper.
2012-11-29 03:52:50 PM
1 votes:

t3knomanser: People don't understand nerds. Nerds are enthusiastic about things most people don't find interesting. That's kinda the definition of "nerd", as it's commonly used these days. Like, when gamer nerds crit with a vorpal blade while fighting a tarrasque, they're going to freak the fark out, because that's pretty incredible, right there.

NASA nerds are no different. When they find a rock with a geological composition that isn't in line with what tehy thought they were going to find, they're going to go, "Holy crap! That's farking awesome!" And the rest of the world is going to go, "It's... it's just a rock."


Yeah, but even in the nerd community, this was played up that it may be something like an organic molecule, which would be EPIC nerdgasm for sure, though the average person would be quite meh about it. Instead, it now sounds as if it's going to be something far less interesting, even for a nerd, like a new kind of mineral not formerly known to exist there. Meh indeed, if that is the case.
2012-11-29 02:25:21 PM
1 votes:
A week from now, it will be downgraded to "meh."
 
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