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(Talking Points Memo)   Stuart Stevens now says if he could do Romney's campaign all over again, he'd try to reach out to "women and those Mexicans"   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 49
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2012-11-29 02:59:49 PM
10 votes:
i2.kym-cdn.com
2012-11-29 03:11:12 PM
6 votes:
i232.photobucket.com
2012-11-29 02:35:50 PM
5 votes:
But Romney did try to reach out to women and Mexicans. Both groups love a swarthy man.

www.fataldownflaw.com
2012-11-29 02:58:44 PM
4 votes:
When you shoot yourself in the foot, don't retreat, RELOAD!
2012-11-29 02:50:24 PM
4 votes:
Yes, you shiats, your problem is messaging. Not that your ideas are miserable failures in the real world and you like to shiat in the faces of every voter who isn't an upper middle class straight white Christian male on top of it. You just haven't messaged it correctly.

What, pray tell, is good messaging for "Bend over and think of Howard Roark"?
2012-11-29 02:36:21 PM
4 votes:
For the 86th time

The problem isn't that you failed to reach out to them in the right way.

The problem is your disgusting backward morally obscene policies that affect these people, leading them to, rightly, despise you.

Instead of covering up the pile of shiat in the middle of the floor why don't you consider JUST NOT shiatTING ON THE FLOOR.
2012-11-29 03:13:42 PM
3 votes:

Graffito: [i232.photobucket.com image 399x297]


i0.kym-cdn.com
2012-11-29 02:55:05 PM
3 votes:

kbronsito: They should get on that just as soon as somoene figures how to reach out to women and hispanic voters w/o alienating the xenophobes and religious nuts that form the base of republican party. I'm sure they have top men working on it now.


Top. Men.
2012-11-29 08:48:56 PM
2 votes:
ihatepeacocks.com
2012-11-29 04:16:10 PM
2 votes:

impaler: mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.

They should have had Ann Romney give a speech during the convention.

Maybe say something about "I LOVE YOU WOOOOOOOMENNNNNNNNNNN!!"


My conservative MIL is now an Obama fan, mostly because of Ann Romney (and a bit because of ACA -- she's an RN). If you say "Ann Romney" around her, you'll get the immediate response: "That biatch; who does she think she is."
2012-11-29 03:32:12 PM
2 votes:

AeAe: theknuckler_33: and held onto the moral victory over President Obama.

Yay! We won something I totally made up and that is completely impossible to quantify or verify! Go us!!!

I caught that too.. WTF is a "moral victory"?


The Jets scoring 19 in last Thursday night's game.

// Romney's winning the whites
// not that he's saying white voters were more moral, or were the only group that voted their morals, or anything...
2012-11-29 03:05:32 PM
2 votes:
Shorter: "Needed about a dozen more cans of this stuff:"

scheincommunications.com
2012-11-29 02:51:15 PM
2 votes:
PARTY OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

/and woman-haters and white supremacists
2012-11-29 02:47:32 PM
2 votes:
and held onto the moral victory over President Obama.

Yay! We won something I totally made up and that is completely impossible to quantify or verify! Go us!!!
2012-11-29 02:46:21 PM
2 votes:
Where is that one Fark Con that was adamant Romney would win because minorities and women wouldn't come out to vote and the Freeper enthusiasm of 2010 would guarantee a Romney landslide.

Hire that guy.

/Wombat something
2012-11-29 02:42:30 PM
2 votes:
In all fairness, who would have thought that supporting a guy who said being raped and getting pregnant was a gift from God would have been poorly received by women?
2012-11-29 02:39:16 PM
2 votes:
Really? I thought he had literally binders full of women?
2012-11-30 12:23:18 AM
1 votes:

Sock Ruh Tease: But Romney did try to reach out to women and Mexicans. Both groups love a swarthy man.

[www.fataldownflaw.com image 427x242]


He also reached out to the African American community:
www.ha-yes.com

If only he had tried to reach out to the transgender community as well.
2012-11-29 05:52:41 PM
1 votes:
"I certainly don't think it was the ideas. I think the ideas carried the day for us."

But...Your day wasn't carried.
2012-11-29 05:30:30 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: Just curious, what about Ann pisses her off so much?


Probably that damn bird shirt. I know it infuriated me.
2012-11-29 05:15:15 PM
1 votes:
growlersoftware.com
2012-11-29 04:22:14 PM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: the money is in the banana stand: Bullshiat blanket statement. They primarily are voting for Obama because he is a minority.

What's it like living in the perpetual fog of complete self-unawareness?


I favorited him as Fark Independent...

i865.photobucket.com
2012-11-29 03:55:56 PM
1 votes:

the money is in the banana stand: I guaran-farking-tee you that the VAST majority of voters have no idea where their candidates stand on most issues and are able to hold any sort of intelligent discussion.


Well, what do you expect? Romney didn't even know where he stood on most issues.
2012-11-29 03:52:13 PM
1 votes:

the money is in the banana stand: flux: Here's one example of why "the message" is fundamentally flawed: "it should be left up to the States" was a mantra of the Romney campaign, repeated by the candidate and his spokespeople on a huge range of issues: off the top of my head, that line was Romney's "position" on abortion, personhood laws, same-sex visitation rights, the affordable care act, minimum wage, disaster relief, and probably at least a few more. I think it was more of an evasion than a position, but is "states' rights" a component of the GOP's message? It sure is.

Here's the problem: "states' rights" has been the primary argument for the continued oppression of minorities throughout US history. It was the argument against abolishing slavery, desegregation, and the Civil Rights Act. Minorities aren't voting for Obama because he's a minority; they didn't vote for Clinton because he "acted black" by going on Arsenio Hall and playing black music on his "Blaxophone." It's because they aren't completely ignorant of the political history of the country they live in.

If your plan for winning minority voters is just making extra sure that they hear your message, I feel obligated to point out that the message you're explaining to them, again, is the same message your party used to oppress them fifty years ago. It's going to be a hard sell.


Bullshiat blanket statement. They primarily are voting for Obama because he is a minority. The Democratic Party could more or less do or say anything and it wouldn't change the voting trend much. Don't believe that? Look at Bush. Huge fark up and yet he got elected for a second term. You give voters and people in general too much credit. I guaran-farking-tee you that the VAST majority of voters have no idea where their candidates stand on most issues and are able to hold any sort of intelligent discussion. You can sure bet they can parrot whatever they heard their friends or the TV say. The Republican Party more or less cannot win minority votes. The whole part ...


I enjoyed the bolded juxtaposition.  Was that period supposed to be a colon, or am I getting that confused with where you pulled this from?
2012-11-29 03:44:56 PM
1 votes:
The problem wasn't in the marketing. The problem was the product. It's as if you're trying to sell a car and the thing has no wheels, just sits on the ground and when you stick the key into the ignition, the whole thing explodes. Go ahead and try to put lipstick on that pig.
2012-11-29 03:41:12 PM
1 votes:

the money is in the banana stand: Bullshiat blanket statement. They primarily are voting for Obama because he is a minority.


President Al Sharpton, and President Jesse Jackson proves your point.
2012-11-29 03:37:28 PM
1 votes:
FTFA:
he said the Republican campaign could take comfort in the fact that it won wealthier and whiter voters and held onto the moral victory over President Obama.

Well, good luck with that...as the country gets less white and less rich. And I'm all for morals...but you guys are assholes.

rape rape rape sluts abortion rape takers moochers rape

I've got your inelegantly stated right here
2012-11-29 03:36:15 PM
1 votes:

flux: I think we have a very good message there. We just have to do a better job with it.

Look, guy, the reason people chose to re-elect Obama over your man Romney was not that they just haven't heard your message yet. Outreach isn't going to change anything. It's like thinking that the reason I'm not a Christian is that I just hadn't heard of Jesus.

You believe fewer social services and smaller government creates a situation that actually benefits everyone. That's fine. People of means often think this. People without means, or who have been without means, or who can muster just the bare minimum of empathy for people without means without dismissing them all as addicts or lazy or entitled... these people see the value of government and social services. We've heard what you believe. You can repeat it all you want; I'm still going to disagree with you.


They Spent $1 billion broadcasting thier "message " in every medium of mass communication known to man except perhpas carrier pigeon and smoke signals. We HEARD your message, pal, we just didn't care for it very much.
2012-11-29 03:32:38 PM
1 votes:
This seems to me like a Coca-Cola executive arguing that New Coke failed because it wasn't marketed properly, not because everyone who tasted it almost universally agreed that it sucked.

You can do all the "outreach" to a voting demographic you want, but if they don't want to buy what you're selling you are still SOL. What was said by a GOP senator in 2008 is now more relevant than ever: "If the GOP were a brand of dog food, it would already have been removed from the shelves"
2012-11-29 03:17:21 PM
1 votes:
Oh, I think they reached women allright. I think they reached right into their uterus.
2012-11-29 03:10:19 PM
1 votes:

AeAe: theknuckler_33: and held onto the moral victory over President Obama.

Yay! We won something I totally made up and that is completely impossible to quantify or verify! Go us!!!

I caught that too.. WTF is a "moral victory"?


Getting a good zinger in on that uppity ni*BONG*
2012-11-29 03:07:53 PM
1 votes:
Funny how the Party of Personal Responsibility keeps screaming at everyone else when they fark up.
2012-11-29 03:06:22 PM
1 votes:
They say hindsight is 20/20.

It's kind of true.

However they also say all politics are local. And if that's the case then nothing really has changed. The same Derpers are convinced that the things they did which cost them the national election are being done and unless someone tells them that the next one to say the word "rape" loses all re-election funding and gets pistol-whipped you're going to lose again in 2016.
2012-11-29 03:04:05 PM
1 votes:

FTA: Still, Stevens repeated many of the same points in the interview that he wrote in the op-ed. The major themes of the campaign were still the right ones to go with, he said on Thursday. "I certainly don't think it was the ideas. I think the ideas carried the day for us."

i78.photobucket.com
2012-11-29 03:02:03 PM
1 votes:
I think we have a very good message there. We just have to do a better job with it.


In other words, telling people what you actually thought sent them running away, so now you need to lie better?

How precious.
2012-11-29 03:01:59 PM
1 votes:

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.


They should have had Ann Romney give a speech during the convention.

Maybe say something about "I LOVE YOU WOOOOOOOMENNNNNNNNNNN!!"
2012-11-29 02:59:33 PM
1 votes:
Subbysays that if he could write this headline all over again he would "remember that quotation marks are for quotes, not for whatever random shiat I make up. Also, my mom is a slut."
2012-11-29 02:59:15 PM
1 votes:

NateGrey: Where is that one Fark Con that was adamant Romney would win because minorities and women wouldn't come out to vote and the Freeper enthusiasm of 2010 would guarantee a Romney landslide.

Hire that guy.

/Wombat something


I haven't seen him around since the election. Funny, that.
2012-11-29 02:56:52 PM
1 votes:
I think after you've gone through the primary it's a little late to be changing party affiliation. Wait, did he mean reach out as a Republican?
2012-11-29 02:54:15 PM
1 votes:

kbronsito: They should get on that just as soon as somoene figures how to reach out to women and hispanic voters w/o alienating the xenophobes and religious nuts that form the base of republican party. I'm sure they have top men working on it now.


www.biography.com
2012-11-29 02:46:58 PM
1 votes:
I think we have a very good message there. We just have to do a better job with it.

Look, guy, the reason people chose to re-elect Obama over your man Romney was not that they just haven't heard your message yet. Outreach isn't going to change anything. It's like thinking that the reason I'm not a Christian is that I just hadn't heard of Jesus.

You believe fewer social services and smaller government creates a situation that actually benefits everyone. That's fine. People of means often think this. People without means, or who have been without means, or who can muster just the bare minimum of empathy for people without means without dismissing them all as addicts or lazy or entitled... these people see the value of government and social services. We've heard what you believe. You can repeat it all you want; I'm still going to disagree with you.
2012-11-29 02:45:48 PM
1 votes:
They can't even frame their desire to attract different voters without it sounding like tokenism.
2012-11-29 02:44:45 PM
1 votes:

imontheinternet:

write your book


i47.tinypic.com
2012-11-29 02:42:55 PM
1 votes:
Wow...only 10 posts in and it's time to fire up the popcorn maker.

www.e90post.com

/got nothing that ain't already been said
2012-11-29 02:39:30 PM
1 votes:
If only they'd given Mitt breast implants
and a flesh light to hold betwixt his legs
and painted him darker brown :(
2012-11-29 02:37:36 PM
1 votes:
Why are people still interviewing this guy? Because he's unintentionally hillarious?
2012-11-29 02:37:09 PM
1 votes:

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.


The media's biased
Obama was really mean
Obama spent too much money
The wrong people voted
Americans are stupid and lazy
Minorities are lazy and just want free stuff

We didn't try hard very hard

/ just keep flinging your shiat until one of these turds sticks, righties
2012-11-29 02:37:03 PM
1 votes:
Sit down and shut up, you moron. The guy who loses the race doesn't do an extra lap after it's over.

Disappear for a few months to write your book and hope it becomes a movie.
2012-11-29 02:36:45 PM
1 votes:

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.


Congratulations You're a Winner!
/This is absolutely what they are doing.
 
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