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(Talking Points Memo)   Stuart Stevens now says if he could do Romney's campaign all over again, he'd try to reach out to "women and those Mexicans"   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 143
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2012-11-29 02:23:21 PM  
But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.
 
2012-11-29 02:35:50 PM  
But Romney did try to reach out to women and Mexicans. Both groups love a swarthy man.

www.fataldownflaw.com
 
2012-11-29 02:36:15 PM  

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.

'

Lying to themselves and their base is what lost them the election. If they keep doing that, it's fine with me. Keep on, keeping on idiots.
 
2012-11-29 02:36:21 PM  
For the 86th time

The problem isn't that you failed to reach out to them in the right way.

The problem is your disgusting backward morally obscene policies that affect these people, leading them to, rightly, despise you.

Instead of covering up the pile of shiat in the middle of the floor why don't you consider JUST NOT shiatTING ON THE FLOOR.
 
2012-11-29 02:36:24 PM  

mahuika: because their message and candidate was rejected.


DONE IN ONE
THIS
BEARS REPEATING
 
2012-11-29 02:36:45 PM  

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.


Congratulations You're a Winner!
/This is absolutely what they are doing.
 
2012-11-29 02:37:03 PM  
Sit down and shut up, you moron. The guy who loses the race doesn't do an extra lap after it's over.

Disappear for a few months to write your book and hope it becomes a movie.
 
2012-11-29 02:37:09 PM  

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.


The media's biased
Obama was really mean
Obama spent too much money
The wrong people voted
Americans are stupid and lazy
Minorities are lazy and just want free stuff

We didn't try hard very hard

/ just keep flinging your shiat until one of these turds sticks, righties
 
2012-11-29 02:37:36 PM  
Why are people still interviewing this guy? Because he's unintentionally hillarious?
 
2012-11-29 02:38:41 PM  
Wow, ya think?

To be fair to Stevens, he actually is right. With their platform it is amazing they got as many women and minorities to vote for them as they did. If they got some, they could get more with just a little more focused advertising. No need to change the product. Just market smarter. Makes sense, right?
 
2012-11-29 02:38:42 PM  
Full of excuses and shiat they are.
 
2012-11-29 02:38:43 PM  
The same goes for women voters, he said. "The governor has a great record on women's issues. We should have done a better job articulating that record."

Instead of running away from it during the primaries and then setting it on fire.

But then, who knows, maybe today nobody talks about Romney because Santorum wins the primary, and we'd all be talking about the things Obama should have done to beat him.

//lulz
 
2012-11-29 02:39:11 PM  
Them there darkies in front of Home Depot.
 
2012-11-29 02:39:16 PM  
Really? I thought he had literally binders full of women?
 
2012-11-29 02:39:30 PM  
If only they'd given Mitt breast implants
and a flesh light to hold betwixt his legs
and painted him darker brown :(
 
2012-11-29 02:39:43 PM  
How would he manage to make a platform that is inherently hostile to women and Latinos palatable?
Since it was Romney, my guess is by having him totally misrepresent his real beliefs.
 
2012-11-29 02:41:48 PM  
So is he saying support Fair pay act and keep birth control and abortion out of the platform and let women make their own health care decisions based on their own beliefs?

Or is this just stick with Mitt's line of this is about providing economic opportunity for women (even if it is at 30% less money) and limited health care options, but hey we are giving you opportunity.
 
2012-11-29 02:42:30 PM  
In all fairness, who would have thought that supporting a guy who said being raped and getting pregnant was a gift from God would have been poorly received by women?
 
2012-11-29 02:42:55 PM  
Wow...only 10 posts in and it's time to fire up the popcorn maker.

www.e90post.com

/got nothing that ain't already been said
 
2012-11-29 02:43:24 PM  

Isitoveryet: If only they'd given Mitt breast implants
and a flesh light to hold betwixt his legs
and painted him darker brown :(


It's a not a joke when the candidate you're mocking actually believes it's true:

"You know, I wish I could claim that I'm Hispanic, and it would help me with the Latino community here in Florida and around the country, but my dad was born of American parents living in Mexico."


/ but don't call them racists....
 
2012-11-29 02:43:32 PM  
FTA....Stevens' latest assessment had a strikingly different emphasis than the one he wrote for the Washington Post a day earlier.

Jebus frikkin' Christ, these guys flip flop more than a got-damn Waffle House.
 
2012-11-29 02:44:45 PM  

imontheinternet:

write your book


i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-29 02:45:48 PM  
They can't even frame their desire to attract different voters without it sounding like tokenism.
 
2012-11-29 02:46:21 PM  
Where is that one Fark Con that was adamant Romney would win because minorities and women wouldn't come out to vote and the Freeper enthusiasm of 2010 would guarantee a Romney landslide.

Hire that guy.

/Wombat something
 
2012-11-29 02:46:58 PM  
I think we have a very good message there. We just have to do a better job with it.

Look, guy, the reason people chose to re-elect Obama over your man Romney was not that they just haven't heard your message yet. Outreach isn't going to change anything. It's like thinking that the reason I'm not a Christian is that I just hadn't heard of Jesus.

You believe fewer social services and smaller government creates a situation that actually benefits everyone. That's fine. People of means often think this. People without means, or who have been without means, or who can muster just the bare minimum of empathy for people without means without dismissing them all as addicts or lazy or entitled... these people see the value of government and social services. We've heard what you believe. You can repeat it all you want; I'm still going to disagree with you.
 
2012-11-29 02:47:32 PM  
and held onto the moral victory over President Obama.

Yay! We won something I totally made up and that is completely impossible to quantify or verify! Go us!!!
 
2012-11-29 02:49:02 PM  

red5ish: How would he manage to make a platform that is inherently hostile to women and Latinos palatable?
Since it was Romney, my guess is by having him totally misrepresent his real beliefs.


In all fairness, they were able to convince a sizable chunk of the population to vote against their own best interests....
 
2012-11-29 02:50:12 PM  

derpy: imontheinternet:

write your book

[i47.tinypic.com image 850x477]


That scene was awesome. I'd forgotten all about it.
 
2012-11-29 02:50:24 PM  
Yes, you shiats, your problem is messaging. Not that your ideas are miserable failures in the real world and you like to shiat in the faces of every voter who isn't an upper middle class straight white Christian male on top of it. You just haven't messaged it correctly.

What, pray tell, is good messaging for "Bend over and think of Howard Roark"?
 
2012-11-29 02:51:05 PM  

NateGrey: Where is that one Fark Con that was adamant Romney would win because minorities and women wouldn't come out to vote and the Freeper enthusiasm of 2010 would guarantee a Romney landslide.

Hire that guy.

/Wombat something


To be fair, if you cover the log in name, their core message and talking points are exactly the same. The only difference is the varying level of jerkass and douchebag as they spew their script.
 
2012-11-29 02:51:15 PM  
PARTY OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

/and woman-haters and white supremacists
 
2012-11-29 02:51:26 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Yes, you shiats, your problem is messaging. Not that your ideas are miserable failures in the real world and you like to shiat in the faces of every voter who isn't an upper middle class straight white Christian male on top of it. You just haven't messaged it correctly.

What, pray tell, is good messaging for "Bend over and think of Howard Roark"?


Hey! It's not their fault that women, minorities and the poor forgot their places!
 
2012-11-29 02:52:02 PM  
They should get on that just as soon as somoene figures how to reach out to women and hispanic voters w/o alienating the xenophobes and religious nuts that form the base of republican party. I'm sure they have top men working on it now.
 
2012-11-29 02:52:11 PM  
"I certainly don't think it was the ideas. I think the ideas carried the day for us."

Yep, they're gonna be farked for a long time if this is a shared belief.
 
2012-11-29 02:54:15 PM  

kbronsito: They should get on that just as soon as somoene figures how to reach out to women and hispanic voters w/o alienating the xenophobes and religious nuts that form the base of republican party. I'm sure they have top men working on it now.


www.biography.com
 
2012-11-29 02:55:05 PM  

kbronsito: They should get on that just as soon as somoene figures how to reach out to women and hispanic voters w/o alienating the xenophobes and religious nuts that form the base of republican party. I'm sure they have top men working on it now.


Top. Men.
 
2012-11-29 02:56:52 PM  
I think after you've gone through the primary it's a little late to be changing party affiliation. Wait, did he mean reach out as a Republican?
 
2012-11-29 02:58:44 PM  
When you shoot yourself in the foot, don't retreat, RELOAD!
 
2012-11-29 02:58:49 PM  
You mean the lesson that the GOP had, at least in part, begun to take to heart over a farking decade ago?

That lesson? The lesson that even "Dubya" could figure out? The lesson that people could see coming up over a decade before that chucklefark got into office?!

You kowtowed to the evangelical, to the anti-intellectual, to ignorant, and to the borderline racist. And now that's all you have left.

Oh, and by the by... in the process, you actually managed to drag the Democrats to the right, who took up all that space you ceded. We have a new Conservative Party.

The Democrats.
 
2012-11-29 02:59:15 PM  

NateGrey: Where is that one Fark Con that was adamant Romney would win because minorities and women wouldn't come out to vote and the Freeper enthusiasm of 2010 would guarantee a Romney landslide.

Hire that guy.

/Wombat something


I haven't seen him around since the election. Funny, that.
 
2012-11-29 02:59:33 PM  
Subbysays that if he could write this headline all over again he would "remember that quotation marks are for quotes, not for whatever random shiat I make up. Also, my mom is a slut."
 
2012-11-29 02:59:49 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-11-29 03:01:33 PM  
"I think we have a very good message there. We just have to do a better job with it."

What's the message? Tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%, taking control of a women's health decisions, stopping gays from getting married, forcing religion on people, constant war, and deporting all brown people? That's a good message? Really?

Better luck next time.
 
2012-11-29 03:01:59 PM  

mahuika: But they did try to.

I feel like this is just about creating the false narrative that they lost because they didn't try, not because their message and candidate was rejected.


They should have had Ann Romney give a speech during the convention.

Maybe say something about "I LOVE YOU WOOOOOOOMENNNNNNNNNNN!!"
 
2012-11-29 03:02:03 PM  
I think we have a very good message there. We just have to do a better job with it.


In other words, telling people what you actually thought sent them running away, so now you need to lie better?

How precious.
 
2012-11-29 03:04:05 PM  

FTA: Still, Stevens repeated many of the same points in the interview that he wrote in the op-ed. The major themes of the campaign were still the right ones to go with, he said on Thursday. "I certainly don't think it was the ideas. I think the ideas carried the day for us."

i78.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-29 03:05:32 PM  
Shorter: "Needed about a dozen more cans of this stuff:"

scheincommunications.com
 
2012-11-29 03:06:22 PM  
They say hindsight is 20/20.

It's kind of true.

However they also say all politics are local. And if that's the case then nothing really has changed. The same Derpers are convinced that the things they did which cost them the national election are being done and unless someone tells them that the next one to say the word "rape" loses all re-election funding and gets pistol-whipped you're going to lose again in 2016.
 
2012-11-29 03:07:53 PM  
Funny how the Party of Personal Responsibility keeps screaming at everyone else when they fark up.
 
2012-11-29 03:09:33 PM  

theknuckler_33: and held onto the moral victory over President Obama.

Yay! We won something I totally made up and that is completely impossible to quantify or verify! Go us!!!


I caught that too.. WTF is a "moral victory"?
 
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